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>> i have no idea what represents. maybe it's the calm before the storm. >> what is the storm? we'll try to find out later in the show as we talk about the president's relationship with rex on the rocks. our team's new reporting that the president was furious after learning secretary of state rex tillerson called him a moron over the summer. but first we start with nbc justice correspondent pete williams. pete, we are learning new details apparently from stephen paddock's girlfriend according to nbc news sources. what can you tell us? >> right. this is, i think, consistent, hallie, with what is happening here. lots of data points that don't necessarily answer the question of why. but one of the big questions has been, what was going on in stephen paddock's life that might have pushed him in this direction of wanting to become violent? were there physical problems? was there a mental issue? now, we know that there were
some mental health issues. we know that he was taking the anti-anxiety medication valium, although millions of americans do that, but what we are told is that marilou danley told the las vegas police and the fbi after being questioned from the philippines that sometimes he would lie in bed at night and cry out in agony, that he would sometimes cry out, oh, my god! and nonetheless, they say, they haven't found anything that they think was a serious enough issue that would push him into becoming a mass murderer. but this whole question about his physical or mental health is a very active part of the investigation. and they specifically want to know, did something happen a year ago? because it was a year ago he began to suddenly accelerate the purchase of his guns. two-thirds of them, roughly, he bought within the past year. >> and there's some news, too, about possible other locations that paddock may have scouted.
is there indications that he was trying to attack in those spots, too? >> reporter: scouted may be putting it too aggressively. i have seen that word use in a lot of places. but what we know is this, on his internet history, and this is what they are starting to do, exploit his electronic devices. they twound tfound two things. he looked at large outdoor events, concerts and other events in boston, chicago, fenway park, another place in boston, and in chicago at grant park, which every august hosts this big music festival called lollapalooza. in chicago he actually booked hotel reservations in a hotel, a big high-rise hotel that overlooks grant park. now, he never showed up there. but he did book the reservations. >> and pete, quickly, this note found in his hotel room, do we know anything more about that and what may have been on, you talked about combing through the electronic devices, anything
else? >> reporter: right, well, the note comes up, new see it in this picture here, this is one of the leaked pictures that the police leaked out and showed up in "the daily mail." you can see the red circle on the right, that little table there that has a pen and some object, maybe an ashtray or something, and let's go back to that picture for just a second, if we can. and it's clearly a piece of paper. it's a note. so what does it say? now, the sheriff has said it wasn't a suicide note. other federal authorities have told us the same thing. what the sheriff told "the new york times" in an interview yesterday is that it is just a bunch of numbers. and they are trying to figure out what the numbers meant. now, remember, this was a man who spent his life as an accountant. and he gambled quite a bit. so was it a record of his gambling activity? was it phone numbers? was it something else? i don't know. and i don't think anybody knows whether it has any significance at all at this point, but it is one more thing they're looking at. >> pete williams, thank you for that, sir, from the washington
bureau. now to the ground in nevada to las vegas where nbc's steve patterson is outside the band lay b mandalay bay hotel and casino. all 59 victims have been identified and released, right? >> reporter: yes. thanks to one of the most stunning memorials i have ever seen, and i have seen far too many of these, we know their faces. take a look at these. these are individualized for each 58, or each person of the 58 victims on the ground here. the person represented here in a cross. there are religious identifications and a jewish star here with their names. people are writing personal messages and they represent the spirit of each person. this was brought here some 2,000 miles from a 66-year-old retired carpenter in suburban chicago. who decided to do this for the spirit of each victim.
and personalizing each one. one of them here, you can see a cowboy hat lays on top of this cross. this is for brendon stewart. a country music enthusiast for a lot of country radio stations. the country music star here coyote has been playing the cover of his music. he was killed by protecting his girlfriend. just one story among the 58 we have seen spread out along this strip. 317 people have been just charged, discharged from the hospital. there are dozens who may be in critical condition in area hospitals. so we're not out of the woods yet here. you can see this stunning tribute. now people are coming out all morning long to pay respects to the fallen. >> i can imagine it is emotional. one of the things when you look at the policy points here that i've been covering in washington and you have been covering in vegas has been this discussion about bump stocks or bump fire stocks, the devices that make
semiautomatic fire faster. you have been digging into this in las vegas and had a chance to check one out for yourself, right? >> reporter: yeah, the bump fire stocks are the devices that the shooter used to attach to 12 of his long guns. it basically as you said makes a semiautomatic weapon fire like a fully automatic rifle. but it does it in a frustrating way because of this loophole. there's -- every time you pull the trigger, that's called the semiautomatic weapon. one pull, one shot. you apply pressure to the stock, it makes you pull it faster. we got an example of a live fire demo from a guy in the nevada desert, a firearms expert. we want to show that for you now. you know, i'm sorry, i don't think we have that tape for you, but basically what he told me is that, he showed me the example of what a semiautomatic fires like and a fully automatic weapon fires like. and with the stock, the difference is uncanny.
it is stunning how similar it is, and you saw the carnage and devastation it caused, hallie. >> steve paterson out in vegas, thank you for the reporting from the emotional memorial there. i want to bring in betsy woodrow and nick johnston. let's pick up where steve left off with the discussion of bump stocks. because the nra came out for the first time four days after the shooting happened, four or foouf days, talking about this. and it kind of is in a surprising way. here's the ceo last night. >> it takes a firearm and makes it perform like a fully automatic firearm. it makes it function like one. and what the nra has said is we aught to take a look at that to see if it is in compliance of federal law and it is worthy of additional regulation. that being said, we didn't say ban, we didn't say confiscate. >> so interesting, though, because after years of
regulation, the nra seems to maybe be giving up a narrow sliver of ground, perhaps? >> right. so the challenge now becomes how much muscle, if any, does the nra actually put behind the message that was brought last night. are they going to do any work behind the scenes to encourage federal regulators to crackdown on the bump stocks. or are they just saying this to sort of deflect some of the criticism they always receive in the wake of the shootings. the jury is out if there's anything. >> the key not banning those but regulating those. and that can be done, not necessarily but congress or the atf, but this is an accessory to gun and not regulating guns. >> i have been talking to lawmakers about this specific topic for "nightly news" and you hear the discussion of ban versus regulate and the discussion on the atf. they said this is legal. the bump stock is not an actual firearm, it's a part of a firearm.
it is allowed. so it seems to indicate that the law would have to change before the atf can change its assessment, no? >> exactly. one funny thing you're hearing in the conservative media is sites like breitbart pointed out it was obama's atf that found that the bump stocks don't violate the law. in a weird way, that may give folks on the right a little bit of political cover to say, well, look, we're doing something that even the obama administration wouldn't do. and kind of an odd way that can be helpful to them. that said, remarks last night were sort of curiously cagey. he said if they didn't advocate the regulating of bump stocks, and he talked about that in such a way. >> we are told that could be tend of everything. so it won't go much further than it is now. >> i'm going to ask you not to go anywhere. coming up, we want to talk about the fallout over at the white
house, speaking of president trump, over our nbc news reporter about the rift between president trump and secretary of state rex tillerson. the president reportedly furious after learning from our reporting that tillerson called him a moron. we'll tell you where things stand and how the administration is planning to move forward after the break. i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance with geico. huh. i should take a closer look at geico... geico can help with way more than car insurance. boats, homes, motorcycles... even umbrella coverage. this guy's gonna wish he brought his umbrella. fire at will! how'd you know the guy's name is will? yeah? it's an expression, ya know? fire at will? you never heard of that? oh, there goes will! bye, will! that's not his name! take a closer look at geico. great savings. and a whole lot more.
fallout between president trump and rex tillerson, his secretary of state. the president is furious after rex tillerson called him a moron. kristen welker is at the white house. bring us up to speed on where things are right now. >> reporter: hallie, we have worked our sources all day. donald trump was furious when he heard the initial report about tillerson calling him a moron. but the secretary of state didn't deny he called the president that term. they decided that john kelly should stay here to deal with the fallout. this was a remarkable statement by the secretary of state. now, important to point out, one
white house official downplays the fact that kelly stayed back. she says, look, he stayed back in order to deal with issues he wanted to take care of here at the white house. and he wasn't necessarily changing his plans to deal with that crisis in particular. the bottom line, though, hallie, it underscores the mounting tension between the president and his secretary of state. and this comes amid a number of key foreign policy tests that the president is facing. everything from iran to north korea. now, all of this comes as last night we sort of got another extraordinary statement from the president himself. we have been told he was finished with all his public events here at the white house. and last minute, reporters were called in to witness the very first part of a dinner he was having with top military officials. and he made a really striking comment. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i don't know. maybe it's the calm before the
storm. >> reporter: what storm, mr. president? >> and we're going to have a great evening. you'll find out. >> reporter: what storm, mr. president? >> you'll find out. >> reporter: give us a hint? >> thank you, everybody. >> reporter: hallie, we tried but didn't get very far. the white house officials knew what the president was talking about. we are hoping to learn more when press secretary sarah huckabee sanders had her press briefing later today. but the president is facing a number of potential storms, one within his own administration with his own secretary of state, but, of course, mounting tensions with north korea. then we are anticipating a big announcement on iran. all the sources pointing to the likelihood that he will announce that he's decertifying the iran nuclear deal. that essentially means he's going to kick further decisions
to congress for a 60-day review. so a lot going on. we'll try to drill-down on exactly what the president meant, hallie. it was a cliffhanger. >> thank you, kristen welker. joining me is the former press secretary for form er president so why would the president keep him around? >> he's doing a great job representing him to leaders around the world. >> is he? because there is real concern from folks we talked to on the international community about what appears to be paralysis at the state department. with rex tillerson not on the same page as donald trump, did you see that? >> no. i traveled the world with the vice president when i served at his press secretary. one thing the world leaders told the president in multiple meetings he's had around the
world, when the cameras left and you're getting down to brass tacks, they know that america means what it says, it will take a leadership role and do those things under the president. when he says we're going to do something, we're going to back our allies and stand with them. and we are not necessarily just going to draw false red lines anymore. we're going to mean what we say. so while in the public sphere there could be areas where folks are trying to, you know, get into the palate intrigue of things. we know with president trump donald trump, we mean what we say. >> that is important as it relates to national policy. there's a lot of policy you're dealing with, everything from iran to north korea to the fight against terror that the president eluded to in those remarks in front of the military last night. so, are you denying at all that there was tension that you saw between the secretary of state and the president? >> well, i'm not talking about the personal interactions between the president and secretary of state. because obviously i'm not in the white house anymore, so don't have any knowledge on those
kinds of things, but i can tell you that everything i have seen under president donald trump and during the campaign and throughout the time, is that he surrounds himself by strong people. and he encourages people to voice their opinions. he listens to those opinions, but at the end of the day, the president makes the call. and we all move forward together on the same page in the same direction. it is interesting, i just recently finished reading the book by the former press secretary who had an entire chapter dedicated to changeover, he was relating to chiefs of staff, but also applied it to senior top officials in the white house. that from the moment someone is named, it's one of greatst spes sports in washington to countdown until they leave. and that is just what we're seeing here. but when the president actually is, there's going to be a change made, the president will make that now. >> i want to bring betsy and nick this, but i want to talk about your old boss in this. our sources are saying that the vp is fuming about some of this, talking with secretary tillerson
before the impromptu remarks on wednesday. is the vice president based on your understanding of it, your analysis of it, more upseptemt what rex tillerson said or that the vice president's name is in the mix? >> what the president was talking to the secretary about is making sure we are doing things and the secretary is working in a frame wrork where he', framework where he'll have more success. it was more of an advising capacity to make sure we are moving together as a senior team on the same page in the president's policy framework. >> mark, they told nbc that the vice president and secretary tillerson had a conversation about ambassador nikki haley that seemed to be in some way critical or skeptical. can you tell us any more about the vice president's relationship with nikki haley and any concerns that hammond seemed to have about her? >> first, that is untrue. it is completely fabricated. it is completely untrue.
>> he made up the whole story. >> they did not discuss ambassador haley. and that was clarified that the vice president and the secretary of state have both come out to say. >> but that doesn't mean that the spokesperson for the secretary of state would completely make up a conversation. that seems like a huge deal. am i being naive here? >> that is a huge deal. i can tell you as someone who worked closely with the vice president for a long period of time, if someone is going to obviously try to voice their thoughts or, in this case, making up facts about a story involving the vice president, that is something his staff an people close to him take very seriously. >> you are saying on the record what multiple sources are telling us privately about this situation, that the vice president was not pleased this has come out. i want to ask you about iran. we are zero percent left in time, but i want to ask you, do you agree with the joint secretary mattis to stay there?
>> the president does not think the iran deal is a good deal for america. and i think it is also being used as a cover in some circles to hide the very real threat that iran is posing in other areas, destabilizing the region, continuing the missile technology and being one of the world's largest supporters of terrorism, those are things we are addressing and it is not covered on the deal. >> mark, thank you for coming on. betsy and nick, stick around. coming up, we want to talk about the new report from politico about another huge issue that may bubble to the forefront many the next few days here. the bipartisan agreement to protect dreamers, potentially in jeopardy. we'll tell you what the white house is looking for that might have not just democrats but some republicans pretty unhappy. on? no, i took some pics with the app and... filed a claim, but... you know how they send you money to cover repairs and... they took forever to pay you, right? no, i got paid right away, but... at the very end of it all, my agent... wouldn't even call you back, right? no, she called to see if i was happy. but if i wasn't happy with my claim experience for any reason,
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somewhere between new orleans and the florida panhandle. hurricane watches are in effect along the northern gulf coast. and for almost a month now, congress has been working to some kind of a bipartisan fix to preserve daca. that's the obama-era program that protected undocumented immigrant that is arrived here as children. but the white house is finalizing a proposal to demand hard-line immigration reforms in exchange for some sort of renewal that could throw a wrench into a bipartisan deal. josh, thank you for being here. >> sure. >> we have some reporting that matches yours that this thing may be coming out this weekend. >> right. this weekend we're going to find out the full and concrete details. >> details so far are pretty controversial in some instances. >> correct. the white house is proposing a sharp cut in immigration. >> part of the rave act. >> that's contentious in republican and democratic
circles, obviously. more are enforcing immigration laws, which you can imagine, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi might blanch at. it is basically a proposal proposed by steven miller, the president's hard-line adviser not happy with a deal that president trump seemed to cut with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. >> to say the least. one person described this as steven miller's wish list getting presented over to congress. and that may be, frankly, a non-starter based on what a lot of folks are hearing. >> folks on the hill are concerned it will boil up the entire deal. there are a lot of republicans and democrats who want a bipartisan fix on daca who see it as problematic to let it expire with criticism for it. and they want a packaged deal. this might keep that from happening. >> you're nodding. >> that's because i was a hill reporter for six years covering the bush administration. it is a policy graveyard because of these things that become so
insidiary when you add the other pieces. you're going to piss off one part of the group and the whole deal will collapse. >> some of the more controversial aspects of this seem to be the cutting of legal immigration as well as this re-branded safe act, essentially. here's what senator flake had to say. >> i doubt that you'll have enough time to do the kind of legislating, horse trading, whatever you want to call it to deal with legal immigration. i think that most likely saying it will have the daca fix and then some kind of border security element. >> is jeff flake right? is that what this ultimately will look like in the end? >> i don't think we know. it depends, you know, the president has struck a c conciliatory tone when talking to schumer and pelosi. stephen miller and others are changing the terms. if you talk to democrats on the hill and republicans, they don't know what the white house wants.
we are hearing conflicting signals. >> senator tom cotton has been very involved in this as well, right? >> tom cotton has been involve in the rave act. cutting immigration by half over the next ten years. stephen miller loves that, but it will be hard to pass in congress with lindsey graham and the moderate republicans. a lot of moderate republicans talk about this legislation. >> cutting immigration is wildly unpopular, but also something the president campaigned on. one of his core campaign promises was coming to the country illegally. schumer is trying to pass a clean dream act without attaching anything the president would want. they are getting lobbied real hard by their base, so it almost feels like a situation where anden stoppable force is about to climb within an immovable object. >> yet another thing on the congress plate this fall that we'll be covering closely. josh, good to see you onset,
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nobody took it seriously, but bob mueller, maybe. we have betsy and nick with us. and ken, this is kind of like a cold war spy novel, but break it down in the simplest terms. what is bob mueller doing right now relating to this dossier? >> reporter: what is significant is that the fbi has had the information on this dossier for months. the british intelligence operative turned information over to the fbi over the summer. then james comey got a full copy of it in december. so the fact that mueller's team has gone to interview steel tells us he's following up on potential leads in the dossier to seek more information on it. the dossier makes explosive information on the president. this basically says that the russian intelligence agencies had infiltrated the trump
campaign and that trump was deeply compromised by russia and unproven, but the fact that mueller is looking at it hard right now is deeply significant. >> and especially traveling to go interview this person. >> reporter: yes, and because his sources were in russia. and it's not clear to what extent the sources are, but they are trying to recreate some of what was told. and it is not clear if they are able to. mueller doesn't have access to them, but steel may be able to help in that fashion. >> what is credibility? what can you tell me about him and the stock he might have in the eyes of the special counsel? >> reporter: my sources in the united states told me that he's a legitimate russia expert. that he worked in russia as a spy for british secret intelligence service, mi-6. and now he's in the private intelligence business. and he actually helped the fbi with their massive investigation
into corruption and international soccer before he began investigating trump. he was paid by an american firm fusion gps, which was doing opposition research on trump. but he is, by all accounts, a professional spy and russian expert. >> what do you make of, we heard from senators burr and warner this week who had personally reached out to try to get steele to talk to the intelligence committee. it hasn't happened yet, but bob mueller is able to have his folks reach out to him. is there anything we should read into that? >> reporter: well, my understanding on that is that the senate intelligence committee is presenting conditions that steele is unwilling to make. steele is not willing to discuss who paid for the dossier. it is not clear that steele is going to reveal all the sources. so it is not that he's unwilling to talk to the senate intelligence committee, it's just that, it seems like they are still negotiating over the terms, hallie. >> nick? >> i think it was important to
notice, remember when the dossier came out and they are distracted about this. >> again, unverified. >> right, all this unverified. at the core, it is about document collusion with trump and the exact center of mueller's investigation. he's trusting and verifying the documents to see if he can replicate that intelligence. >> we know that the special counsel investigation, there's the congressional investigation, the multiple investigations including the senate intel one, but senate judiciary, the other committee on capitol hill is kind of also involved and you have exclusive reporting on that. >> exactly. so the senate judiciary committee presented itself in vague ways as a russia probe, but from speaking with a grassley staffer yesterday. my understanding now is that grassley doesn't consider himself to be running a trump/russia probe. rather, he seems to be organizing his investigation as the fbi oversight. so the result is that a lot of folks, includes republicans on
capitol hill, have long been perplexed on what grassley's project is and is drawing criticism on both sides of the aisle for appearing to almost bow out of being a major player in this trump/russia question. >> betsy, nick, hang out. ken delanian, thank you for that perspective. i appreciate it. coming up next, this story may have flown under the radar. attorney general jeff sessions says that transgender workers were protected under workplace rights. we'll talk about the outrage from activists and politicians over the rollback and what it means for transgender workers. with my advisor's help along the way, it's finally my turn to be the host. when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant.
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we're watching a couple of big developments at the justice department this morning. both involving transgender rights. the first, attorney general jeff sessions reportedly revertsisin policy to protect transgender workers from 1964. title 7 does not encompass gender identity per se including gender status. meanwhile, the doj asked the district court to dismiss a
lawsuit challenging the president's move to ban transgender people from serving in the military, saying the suit is premature. you have been looking at one of the headlines there from buzzfeed, their political reporter, domenick, was the first to report on this. he's joining me from new york. thank you for being here. talk us through how the justice department is explaining this decision. >> so the civil rights act of 1964 bans discrimination on the basis of sex. and for a little bit of background, courts have found that the ban on sex discrimination encompasses a ban on transgender discrimination, even though it does not say that exactly. but that's been the trend of the courts. jeff sessions, the attorney general, has stepped in to say that based on the plain meaning of the law, the transgender workers are not protected from discrimination by this civil rights law. and what he's saying is that from this point going forward, the justice department can take that position in court.
it's applied across federal agencies. and so we could actually see the trump administration fighting against transgender workers in court. >> and those are some of the far-reaching implications that you elude to in your piece here. >> yes. and there's been significant concern from lgbt activist organizations that what we will see is that the trump administration is essentially trying to roll back the clock of the trend that we have seen from the equal employment opportunity commission and in federal court. so that transgender people do not find these protections under federal law. >> betsy, you reported a lot on the justice department and you cover it, any reaction to this so far? >> i can confirm domenick's excellent reporting here. this is all correct. additionally, this memo went out not just to doj staff but to every attorney's office around the country which means this is supposed to guide the way the u.s. attorneys enforce federal law, in this case, the civil rights act. it's a far-reaching major
decision to bring about potentially real change and how much the federal government works to protect transgender people who might be basing discrimination on the workplace. additionally, this is something very much at peace with how this justice department views its role. throughout the trump administration, we've seen a growing trend growing momentum away from and even reversing the protections of previous administration put in place for transpeople. >> part of that is the discussion around transgender people in the military. and that made huge headlines. general dunford was just asked about the private advice that he gives when talking about this issue. here is his reaction. >> i believe any individual who meets the physical and mental standards and is worldwide deplorable and is currently serving should be afforded the opportunity to continue to serve. sir, i can promise that will be my advice. what i just articulated was the advice i articulated in private
and now have in public. >> this administration, nick, is apparently trying to thread the needle it seems. >> they are transferring the needle. they have clear positions on these. a lot of the issues -- >> the president does. >> right, he's the boss. he has clear position on this and administratively he can do these things. these expanded rights for the transgender people were quantified during the obama administration. there's a new administration and they will probably roll them back. if the next president is a democrat, they will go back to where they were. >> donald trump said he was an ally to lgbt people, but jeff sessions, in particular, has made eroding lgbt regulations a big priority. he said a baker is able to turn away a gay people. he said that transgender people cannot be in the military. he said that transgender students do not have protection. and across the board interest is in opposing lgbt progress under the obama administration and jeff sessions is leading the
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later today, vice president mike pence will be in puerto rico for a briefing with fema officials. he's also headed to the u.s. virgin islands to assess the devastation there as well. our team is on the ground in puerto rico traveling to more rural parts of the island where some folks say they have still not seen any relief supplies. msnbc's mariana ai tense owe is west of san juan. tell me about the situation where you are. we've seen a lot from san juan from the city. what about in this area? >> reporter: al it's just nine miles outside san juan and these lines of desperate puerto ricans trying to get their hands on ice have almost become routine here. 90% of this island still has no power. yesterday we were able to go about an hour outside of san juan with a group of volunteer nurses from the mainland. the citizens there, 20,000 u.s. citizens haven't had any power
or water. many tell me since hurricane irma. and the nurses there, they were shocked at what they found. they said the situation is growing more dire by the day because there are dozens of people in need of medical help who haven't been treated or haven't taken their medication in several weeks. how would you describe the situation here to somebody watching in the mainland? >> it's a war zone. it's a war zone. they need help here. >> reporter: have you seen any sign of supplies coming this way? >> none, zero, nothing. most people don't have running water so they can't take care of the basic necessitienecessities. >> reporter: that nurse was desperately trying to look for an ambulance after we spoke to her to transport a woman to the hospital. she was told the ambulance wasn't going to get there until monday. so when you look at san juan and then you look at other areas, it's almost like a tale of two puerto ricos. and people here hope that vice president mike pence sees this
pocket's need of so much help on the island. halle? >> mariana, is there expectations that the vice president will be able to visit some of these pockets? are people talking about his visit? are they more concerned of what they need on the ground? >> reporter: i mean, this is every day for people here. people sleep on these lines to get a spot early in the morning. and honestly, many of the ones i've spoken to, they were so disappointed after the president's visit earlier this week that they're not expecting much from mike pence's visit here today. again, they have a lot of hope that things will change. yesterday when they saw our cameras, they cried and told us they desperately need the help. any help they can get is certainly welcome here. again, people are looking at months of these lines and the power outages especially in the outskirts of san juan. >> mariana atenciow thank you. betsy and nick still with me
here. i spoke with one official who said hey at the front of that line are people who are giving out the ice that have generators. we're trying to get people the help they need. yes, the line is long and people are struggling, but the point was that they're trying to work towards making sure that these people at least have something to wait in line for. >> which is a pretty low bar. the fact there are some people on the island giving out ice and generators is of course good. it's great those people are doing that, but as mariana detailed, the reality of these lines and the amount of time and effort people are having to put in to get basic necessities is heart wrenching. and it's something that is going to be on the vice president's radar. >> i think the scope of the disaster sometimes we forget when we see parts of this. some of the reports i've seen is it could take months for electricity to be restored. >> do we expect the vice president to be -- we know he's going to be talking about. we know he's going to be on the ground. the highest ranking person to visit the u.s. virgin islands later today. trying to keep up awareness about this. >> it's going to have that
effect which itself could be quite valuable. one thing we see any time these disasters happen is that after the first couple days, the focus in washington tends to move on to the next shiny object. the fact pence is going and particularly to the u.s. virgin islands is really important. a lot of the focus has been on puerto rico. but the u.s. virgin island damage is also acute and horrible. >> we're going to have to keep attention on this. >> and msnbc news has opened a puerto rico bureau for our continuing coverage here on this network and our nbc news "today" show and broadcasts as well. really important. betsy, nick, thank you for sticking around this full hour. we want to go to today's big pictu picture. we're going back to bangladesh. we do not want you to forget because this is a humanitarian crisis that is far from over. take a look at the big picture. it's a bangladeshi man carrying a rohingya refugee from a boat after crossing the border from
myanmar. look at this. half a million rohingya muslims have now fled myanmar for bangladesh in the past six weeks. victims of horrific violence from their buddhist majority government. more keep coming. within the last 24 hours, bangladesh says it's building a refugee camp for 800,000 refugees. that would make it one of the largest refugee camps in the world. the united nations is praising bangladesh's extraordinary spirit of generosity as they put it in opening up its borders. the photographer here from afp. i'd love to hear your thoughts on facebook, twitter, snapchat, and instagram. i'll respond to it after the show after i skedaddle to the white house for the briefing with sarah huckabee sanders. lots more to discuss in d.c. for now over to my colleague stephanie rhule in new york. >> hey, hallie. i have a feeling you've got quite a few questions for ms. sanders today. we are following the new disturbing details following the
las vegas mass shooting. and the investigation that's followed. stephen paddock's girlfriend reveals he might have had mental health issues. marilou danley told investigators paddock would sometimes lie in bed moaning and screaming. he was also taking a common anti-anxiety medication. meanwhile, more attention is turning to the victims. overnight the clark county coroner released the official list of the 58 people who were killed in the attack. they range in age from 20 to 67. we need to think about these people, talk about these people and their lives were lost senselessly. thousands turned out at a candle lit vigil last night for one of those victims. charleston hartfield who was attending with his wife. and now there's a tribute to the victims near the sign. an illinois man made them and drove almost 2,00