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presumably. watching the trump circus this week we've been distracted again and again from the carriage on the vegas strip but not distracted enough to relieve the real life tragedy of it all. that's hardball right now. thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in -- >> when you aalt-right, defined alt-right? >> the movement of the alt-right. >> these are people who have not been heard for years and now they've been heard. >> block busting reporting on the man who ran trump's campaign. and then more fallout from the moron report. >> let me tell you what i've learned about this president. >> as the rex tillerson watch continues. plus, the smoke shking gun on president trump's personal sabotage of obamacare. and my conversation with lynn manuel miranda on the
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president. >> i've never seen the president attack the victims of a natural disaster. >> on puerto rico. >> futures on the line. >> and his new song for relief. >> i was trying to write the catchiest song i ever wrote. >> "all in" starts right now. i'm chris hayes. and if you want to find out the center of gravity, the republican party in the donald trump era, look no further than next week's value voters summit kicking off a week today in washington and headlined by two of the parties leading light, steve bannon, former chief strategist and roy moore, the republican senate candidate in alabama. now roy, despite being the enemy of the establishment of the primary, now has the full backing of the president, the vice president, congressional leadership and the gop political arm, all of this despite a well documented record saying homosexual conduct should be illegal and only thing i know that the islamic faith has done in this country is 9/11.
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today one of moore's top backers is an actual honest to goodest successionist who argued that they need to form a bib la kl nation. that revelation comes on the heels of a blockbuster report from buzzfeed exposing how steve bannon actively smuggled ideas from nazis and white nationalists into the mainstream. in one e-mail obtained by buzzfeed, bannon shared his thoughts about the mosques. by the way, they are all factories of hate. bannon went on to serve inside the white house as president trump's chief strategist, one of his most trusted advisers, pushing policies day in and out. buzzfeed also has its hand on breitbart's former editor singing america the beautiful at a dallas bar while white
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nationalists give the nazi salute. a bartender saw them and told the dallas observer that he immediately kicked out the entire group. this is the republican party in the age of donald trump. a hop, a skip and a jump from sig hail to the beating heart of the white house. and those ties help explain the president's own allegiances, how he could see this, an angry mob chanting blood and soil and jews will not replace us and say this. >> you also had people that were very fine people on both sides, you had people in this group -- excuse me. excuse me. i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very very important statue. >> joseph bernstein is a senior
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technology reporter for buzzfeed who wrote the explosive expo say on breitbart's die to white nationalists. so the mack review that i took away is that bannon oversaw an effort that was extremely strategic and intentional about what it was doing, which was to kind of cultivate the energy that was emanating from the nastier parts of the internet and use them to his own purposes. >> i think that's exactly right. and how crazy is that, the guy who is the chief strategist to donald trump was overseeing a website that was sort of explicitly courting white nationalists with people who want a nation for white people. >> these are explicit. that's what's so crazy. you to do one checker hop in all of these different parts of the story. you have someone who runs american renaissance, a racist
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publication explicitly. >> and surely some of that is speculation. i don't think steve bannon has ever met this guy or knows who he is. but the point is he puts someone in a position of power, who knew who these people were and put their ideas into breitbart and the mainstream. >> here's the most important part of this article, that because they are aware of what they're doing, they're constantly dealing with the line and where it is. editing a 2016 september speech, marlo, editor approved a joke about check ls joke okay, gas chamber no. and that's not like an accident. they know what they're doing. >> imagine being an editor of like a publication with a readership of millions who is taking a red pen, yes shekels,
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no gas chamber. >> it's disturbing when you put it that way, chris. >> what i thought about when i read this was the president's comments after charlottesville. because it seems like he was doing a care of parallel thing. >> i think my impression from reading these e-mails is that bannon and milo and people really see this as two sides. and -- >> that's right. >> i mean, that extend to all of their coverage. and that came through again and again in the e-mail. and the hashtag war which is what he -- sort of the way he exhorts the troops. engaging war on twitter and in the media and in every possible realm of american life trchlts term they use fellow traveler, a left wing term and the idea being that there is a war and there's only two sides and the nazis and the racists are on our
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side because it's a popular front against our enemies. >> and then, you know, sort of another aspect of that is breitbart has an incredibly aggressive pr operation whose sort of entire job was to go to outlets and police their language around him, you know, as a white nationalist or white supremacist. >> while he's getting edited and making a password that has crystal references, you have lawyers going out, how dare you call him. >> that's exactly right. it's hypocrisy. >> thanks for your excellent reporting. >> thank you. >> i'm joined by author of the new book "we were eight years in power" a phenomenal read you should definitely pick up. i'm looking at your facial expression while watching me recounting this.
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what's going through your head? >> i am literally speechless. i'm not speechless from the fact of learning the information. i'm speechless that we needed this. and i'm not trying to -- the reporting, which was excellent. needed to be done. but is this really surprising? they are who we thought they were. this accords with everything else we knew about donald trump. everything else we knew about steve bannon. i think there's a group of people who have tried to willfully delude themselves about the nature and want to have really thin conversations about what is white supremacy and what is not. i don't know what else we need. i don't know if we need steve bannon to actually lynch somebody on the white house lawn to get the message. but it seems pretty clear to me. >> one of the things that comes through in this article, and i thought about it in reference to the first white president essay that you published recently, is
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their awareness that there is power in the thing they're cultivating. >> they're right. they're correct. >> they know there's clicking, audience, energy, there's passion, some fuel and that's part of why they're going to it because that's where the energy is and at the same time they recognize they're playing a dangerous game, which is trying to channel that fuel but make sure that you can stay disassociated enough for plausible deniability. >> there's another section of americans, obviously, some of them within the republican party who could be completely appalled at the explicit alliance with racism and white supremacists. it's been pretty clear. when e was a candidate, the president of the united states said of a judge officiating over his case, he's a mexican. >> he can't judge me. >> because he's a mexican. i just don't know how more explicit we can get here.
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>> you know, one of the themes in the essays and in your writing is about sort of white supremacy and racism in terms of ant blackness, specifically the way it was built up. there's a political his think of the ways that plays out in crime and the way we dealt with the crack epidemic. what do you make of the fact that blackness is not the primary target of this kind of politics these days or often if it is a primary it is along with muslims and immigrants who are also very much the target? >> i don't know how different that is. al smith ran for president and he went, you know, into the -- obviously white by our terms. they burnt crosses. >> because he was catholic. >> there's always an anti-semantic element. you can find cartoons in the 19th century just after enslavement and see the irish
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americans equated with black people. that's not to diminish but there have always been owe groups along with black people being the victims of white supremacy. >> what's taboo and what's not. the salute is taboo. my favorite part of that story is they get kicked out of the bar in dallas. >> right. >> that's not -- you know, you see that in your bar, you say get the heck out of my bar, right? saying is the only good thing that islam has done is 9/1 1 or that all mosques are a factory of mate. that is decidedly less taboo. >> it's acceptable. it's acceptable. it's a different line. and i don't know if that has to do with the relationship between, you know, our criminal acts and history, the holocaust. it's not on the guilty, not on the conscience of americans so
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we have a much easier time finger waving about that as opposed to the proximity of history with 9/11. that's a different thing. people feel for justified in their bigotry, perhaps. but it's quite clear that's not a line that, you know -- there's no line in terms of, you know, forbe bidding folk to use that sort of language. >> one of the arguments i think you made is, you know, the taboos have been knocked away, the sub text has become the text, the quiet part is said loud in the era of trump and that's his power. what do you make of the people who say i am a never trumper and i condemn what he says about mexicans and condemn him with charlottesville but i remain republican and i'm a conservative. >> well i applaud the condemnation. i would say it's a little late. i don't think trump emerged out of nothing. i would ask where these people were when barack obama was forced to hold up his birth certifica
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certificate. i would ask where these people were, hate mongers like pam geller was spewing nonsense about the mosque, i would ask where these people were when this whole idea of sharia law was made some sort of issue. this is built on a long history. donald trump didn't come out of nowhere. i could take it back and say where were these people in the day of willie horton. the republican party has been playing with the fire. there's a synergy in watching how steve bannon is sort of playing, you know, with these haters who are beyond the line and how the republican party has historically played with racism trying to saddle up to the line. >> and also the way that he sicked it against him. you got bannon, moore and then the race in virgi virgina.
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ed gillespie won. this is the ad that ed gill lepscy is running as the establishment candidate. >> motto is kill, rape, control. this violent gang has been tied to bruten murders across virginia. nor tham cast the deciding vote in favor of sang rare cities that let illegal immigrants back on the streets. ralph nor tham weak on ms 13 putting virginia families at risk. >> and then you've got the president saying rolfe nartham is fighting for the violent ms 13 gangs. >> it looks familiar. and the need to place this racism, this kind of bigotry and white supremacy totally on the shoulders of this alt-right
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ignores the fight that the table was prepared over years. >> what about the democratic party? >> the democratic party has its history too. there's a long history which aye outlined in his work, certainly going back to roosevelt. no one is immune to it. it's just at this moment of politics right now, and have been at least since the civil rights movement, one party decided to run towards that and extract its energy from that. that doesn't make the democratic party immune. >> how important -- i know that you have the sort of view of the power of this force, white spraemcy and american politics that has a continuity. how important it is for someone who runs a campaign like this to lose? >> i'm only pausing on the question because i have -- and i'm not -- i'm going to confess that i'm not sure about this. obviously i would like that person to lose. but i'm not sure whether the problem is that the actual
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candidate decide to siphon off the energy or the fact that the energy is there in the first place. >> good question. always a pleasure. new booked called "we were ought years in power, an american tragedy." i recommend that. after the break, rex tillerson an the man he called a moron, new reports the secretary of state is at a breaking point. plus, lin manuel miranda, what he says is jaw breaking. you do not want to miss it. parts that you may be... ...overlooking. ♪ it's your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite, from bausch + lomb. as you age your eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish those nutrients. ocuvite has lutein, zeaxanthin, and omega-3. nourish your eyes to help them be their healthy best. ocuvite eye vitamins. be good to your eyes.
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all accounts it appears that there is now a cold war between the president and the secretary of state, rex tillerson. as our own reporting has shown tillerson referred to the president as a moron, something he did not deny when he expressed his support calling the president smart. but today sara huckabee sanders
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insisted that tillerson's status is secure. >> reporter: can you continue to say that the president remains confident in his as secretary of state? >> he does. nothing has changed despite what you may read in the media or watch on tv. >> michelle goldberg joins me now. what do you make of this in. >> what i make of it is he can't get rid of him because there is basically nobody running this administration. we have multiple foreign crises, his chief of staff john kelly would freak out. and at the same time it's a completely untenable relationship. where i'm torn is that on the one hand tillerson has been in a near catastrophic secretary of state. he's e fis rating the foreign diplomatic corps. but he's also, i strongly agree with him on the important issue of not cavalierly starting a war with north korea. >> i'm almost a single issue
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voter on the no nuclear war. what is frustrating about making sense of all of this -- we're dealing with the palace intrigue. nbc reporting has held up incredibly well. other outlets confirmed. >> he called him something else a moron. >> but it's also the case that there is also this reputational management happening from folks like kelly and mattis and tillerson of like we're the grownups, we're standing between the president and chaos. and i'm not quite sure that i'm sold on that. >> neither am i. but partly it's because we haven't seen, you know, we don't know. could it be worse? presumably it could be worse. look at what trump's complete disinterest and incompetence has done to puerto rico. and so, you know, it does seem like they're trying to steer him away from military confrontation with north korea, possibly trying to steer him away from
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escalating tensions with iran. at the same time, here's what i think. there's been rumors of one sort of suicide pact, if one leaves all of them are going to leave. >> washington post and buzzfeed reported that, yeah. >> if they do that, i think they need to stand up and tell the country if they leave that this has to stop. i mean i understand that the republicans are not going to do anything. but when you have someone like tennessee senator bob corker saying the officials are the only things standing between the u.s. and chaos. >> i think he repeated multiple times on camera. >> he understands that this president is not fit, endangering us and on one hand it sounds naive asking the republican to try to step in and safe the country because they're not going to. but if these men have a said we're the only thing standing between you and chaos, if they are forced out and chaos is on the loose, then they should do
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their patriotic duty -- >> to be public about it. >> and demand -- this man should not be there. >> that is well said. if the rumors are true about the view that the cabinet secretaries have of their own boss, the commander of chief, if they have a suicide pact, if they view themselves stand in the way of chaos, should it come push to shove, they owe it to the public to be explicit. >> as bob corker owes it to if public to be explicit about the presiden president. >> tonight, the seven year streak of job growth is over under president trump. how the trump administration is undoing president obama's work in more ways than one after this quick break. and this woman is laughing because she's pretending her boss's terrible story is funny.
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when barack obama was president, donald trump simply did not believe the federal government's jobs numbers. in march the washington post noted 19 different times trump called the job numbers fake. but after a strong february jobs report the president changed his tune. >> reporter: does the president believe this jobs report was accurate and a fair way to measure the economy? >> yeah, i talked to the president prior to this and he said quote him clearly. they may have been phony in the past but it's very real now. >> well today we got new jobs numbers but it looks like they might be phony again. this is monthly job totals dating back to 2008. jobs lost under george w. bush and then barack obama and after september 2010, we saw seven
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straight years of job growth. this month donald trump broke that streak. the u.s. lost 33,000 jobs in september versus the 90,000 job increase they expected. here's the important thing. the job loss can be attributed to the enormous hurricanes that hit texas and florida last month which i'm sure donald trump would have noted in a measured and responsible way if hillary clinton were president, don't you think? when we come back, the smoking gun that proves just how far the president is going to undermine obamacare to raise your premiums nap's next. g, you. g, you. call in the next ten minutes to save on. and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every dollar. put down the phone. and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every cent. grab your wallet. access denied. and if that's still not enough to help you save. ooo i need these! we'll just bring out the snowplow. you don't need those! we'll do anything, seriously anything to help our customers.
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when people in iowa begin to lose their health care, when their premiums shoot. one they're told to blame obamacare. it's failing. it's all obama's fault. and that would be a lie. president trump personally intervened to stop iowa's own efforts to stabilize its own markets and lower prices. the washington post reporting for months officials in republican control iowa sought permission, then president trump read about the request in a newspaper story and called the federal director. trump's message in late august was clear tell iowa no. i'm joined now by one of the architects of obamacare, former administrator of the centers for medicare and medicare centers. first i want to start from your
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perch, how anomalous is it for the president to make a phone call to personally say do not grant a waiver. >> that's meddling with the proper administrative processes for granting a waiver. it should be done under the procedures housed in the department of health and human services and medicaid services. it's really meddling. it's technically wrong. he can't have the information that the department would have about what's truly going on and a terrible way to make regulations. >> did barack obama ever do that with you? >> not to my memory. there were policy ideas, you know, make sure that people who are at risk were covered, make sure that the affordable care act is implemented. >> what's remarkable here you've got a republican state saying hey, we're republicans, you guys are republicans within we're
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maybe not crazy about affordable care about, you're not crazy about it, here's what we do to smooth things out so premiums don't go up. they're getting nagged by the white house. what is the plausible policy reason? >> it's the administrative way to shoot down the affordable care act. it has a few problems that can be fixed. we know how to make the exchanges function with proper administration. but having failed to pass a statute to repeal the affordable care act, this administration is very systematically using administrative tools and intervention from the white house to take shots at it and try to disarctticulate the affordable care act. >> what do you mean by that? >> piece by piece. you need energy, you need diligence so that the regulations are properly followed, you need
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interpretation of the regulations, you need the people that know what they're doing to make those interpretations. it's possible and it's happening from the white house to make it more and more difficult to do that. for example, to make these exchanges work, we have to market them. we have to have well people sign up. the administration has cut the funding for marketing the exchanges by 90%. that's a terrible way to undercut the success of the exchanges. they've decreased the time that people have to enroll in medicaid and medicare and the open enrollment period by 50% and they've just announced that they're going to shut down the enrollment software for 12 hours a weak during the open enrollment period. this is impeding the prop administration of the law. >> don, who knows from where he speaks. he was overseeing this in the earlier days. tonight my interview with lin manuel miranda on his new song and why he says the
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it's been 16 days since hurricane maria devastated puerto rico and the island remains to this day and at this hour in a state of crisis. nearly 90% of the more than 3 million americans remain without leg tris pi. almost half still don't have access to clean drinking water. president trump visited the island this week, widely criticized as tone deaf. one of the critics before me made the trip was lin manuel miranda. he's raising funds from move on
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today written by lin manuel miranda. the song is part of a relief effort for puerto rico which is still struggling after the destruction of hurricane maria more than two weeks ago. i had the chance to ask him how his family is coping with the state of the island. >> they're okay. you know, they're -- it's gritted teeth smiles is the way i describe it. you know, the -- i have -- i have three cousins who i love more than anything who are on that island. my uncle and aunt are on that island. one of my cousins was in the dr when it happened and could not go back home and is staying here with us in new york. everyone else is down there. and you know, it's -- what they put on a brave face for us but at the same time i also know my cousin kevin waited 12 hours in line for gas only to be told he could only take out $20 worth, which is barely enough to get back home. those are the stories that we're
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hearing and those are the first hand accounts we're hearing on the island, everything is scarce. >> and there's a total lack of normalcy, which is the most important thing to reestablish after disasters. >> absolutely. my cousin who i mentioned is living with us now. she was studying for the mkats. everyone is trying to stay alive and focused and keep their loved ones alive. we're still very much in a crisis. >> first tell me how the song came about. how did the set of events sort of -- we saw the hurricane was coming and then it hit and what happened? >> i was on vacation. i was on a long planned family reunion with my wife's mom's side of the family. >> in austria, right? why are you in austria.
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>> my wife is half austrian. but i experienced what over purr to rec -- what everyone who has ties is waiting for landfall. and a horrible silence. some are still going through the silence. many waiting to hear -- >> no news in that first period. >> i don't think i heard from them until the weekend and the hurricane hit on wednesday. but anyway, a couple of things emerged. one, i have really -- feel very helpless as to how to help. immediately i start writing music. two, my facebook feed and my twitter feed, with all of my friends who have family on the island was filled with the names of towns. my grandmother is there, my son works in san juan. has anyone heard anything? there was a roll call of towns. so i thought okay, if i could write something that would -- we
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could use to raise funds, that's the lyric. because anytime we meet someone, we say your town. can i write a lyric that fits all 78 towns into a pop song, and then the other sort of component at the same time was i knew that maria, the name would forever have that horrible connotation. this was the worst disaster in puerto rico's history. i began thinking of maria in theater. so my first call was to the bernstein estate for permission to use the song for hurricane relief. within an hour, they said yes. i started writing the song. and then i burned up my rolod rolodex -- >> an incredible who's who.
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>> who's who that really was the telephone chain. i mean i'm recording with rita and she said is gloria estefan on this song? i don't have her phone number. that's not the thing people have. sh song. >> whips out her phone. gloria is with us in the studio the next night and it really was th this. they just said yes, we'll do whatever we can and some of them i knew well. i worked with jennifer lopez before and worked with rita and some of whom i cold called on twitter and everyone just said yes. >> the 17-year-old most excited about fat joe being on it. [ laughter ] >> i know. the first time was like i bet you -- >> i mean, just incredible and really, you know, stepped up and did his bit and again, this --
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one of the most heartbreaking things i read this weekend and there is no shortage of heartbreaking things this week, chris, was the article. many talents feel forgotten and this song will hopefully raise a lot of money for the much-needed rebuilding that is going to happen and not just rebuilding, getting out of crisis mode but also make sure these towns never feel forgotten again. >> forgotten, you know, there is a sense in which, i think, the puerto rico as part of the united states but something like 45% of americans don't realize puerto ricans are american citizens and the conduct of the president of the united states. i knew you grew up in a household but your dad was in politics and you are a person that knows about politics. if people seen hamilton, they know that. your public profile is not particularly pointedly
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political. >> i mainly post audio snippets of my son making up songs and my song being cute. >> there is also sort of relentless positivity. you're not like a -- >> listen. >> you're not a critic and you're not an insult monger -- >> no -- >> and do that very well. and i see my role as, you know, stay focused, stay aware. stay engaged. but at the same time, coal ovme here if you want to see a cute dog video. >> but then i watched the president break you because it was like he had this outburst, you know, just this outburst targeted against the puerto rican people doing and you're go going to hell about the mayor working 24/7. we've been working. the fastest golf cart you took.
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there is something unresting to me because it is not the way you generally -- >> yeah, that's the only reason it made news, right? >> the cover of a local tabloid. >> yeah, i don't talk like that and at the same time, i've never seen the president attack the victims of a natural disaster. i've never seen a president attack the elected officials on the front line of a disaster. what other words can you say in the face of this? >> do you feel like -- >> those weren't impulsive tweets, they were all i had to offer. >> do you feel that the president's response to this is insulting to puerto rico and puerto ricans. >> it's the definition of adding insult to injury and at the same time, it's -- it's jaw dropping. this is an unprecedented disaster and deserves
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unprecedented response with two other hurricanes that have also ravaged the united states of america. puerto rico is part of the united states of america and logistical challenges mean we need to be more ready. not we're so surprised at how hard this is turning out. >> to loop back to what you said about your cousin, it's like you've got the supply chain problem and a hard time getting things out. people -- so you wait online for 12 hours to get $20 worth of gas to drive back. if you drive a truck, where do you get the gas from? like the people on the island are prisoners of the conditions of the island. >> and that's been -- that's the challenge because, you know, what i've seen and the images coming out of the island is nothing but the puerto ricans doing for themselves. it has been an incredible effort and an in this castories of peo
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in. by the way, i have to say despite this weekend's tweets by me, i'm never believed more in the american people. i mean, go look at my twitter feed. it's kids breaking piggy banks to donate. it's people saying we decided to forgo our vacation and send our vacation money to puerto rico. it's employers matching employees' funds and donations. it's the response of the government with the response of the people. we would be well on the road to recovery and that's what we're hoping for. >> there is, you know, puerto rico was in dire straights in many ways before the hurricane hit. we talked about the act, which was a way of sort of restructuring debt and appointed this board. it was necessary at the time to get it out of what was -- >> yeah, and did a lot of damage, as well because, you know, what is austerity when your kids try to graduate college. it's, you know, i spoke up because the thought of lawsuits
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on top of the debt looming debt crisis was sort of too much to bear but at the same time, the solution is not starving the puerto rican people. and so it's -- this hurricane then comes over and smashes on top of all of the looming infrastructure. >> there has to be -- there has to be a sustained solution from fellow americans that's broader than just getting the grid work in. >> yeah, and we have to be very careful in the recovery that those same people saying we'll chip in help and to further and we can't go further into debt. i mean, that's a huge problem. you can feel them circling in the air. >> they have been floating the idea. >> insane. insane. insane. the answer is not more debt. it's a humanitarian crisis and we need all hands on deck. >> tell me the money goes to the hispanic federation. >> yeah. >> what is that so people know -- >> hispanic federation.org and
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been around for 28 years. i have a great relationship with them. i worked with them previously after the shooting tragedy in orlando when i worked with them before. that was for the victims of the family and i -- what i like about it and again, don't let the options paralyze you from giving. unisef is your bag, great. hispanic foundation is mine because i know where the money goes and they use the money intelligently and very non-for profit and work with organizations there and no contact with the mayors. so they go -- >> key figures. they have been getting the most sort of intense ground eye view that's often been through the mayors. >> the mayors who are -- i could tell you, the mayor knows his constituents by name. he was my aunt jamila's classmate. it's that level and understanding of where the aid is going and how to get it there. that's why i work with them and
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again, there are many options. i'm not here to yuck anyone's yum when it comes to giving when it comes to puerto rico. >> during this project, i've watched you work on it night and day is my understanding. what is next after this? >> i can't think past this. i honestly can't. it's -- every creative project i have is on hold until we get through this crisis until there is some -- until there is power and electricity and food and until there is the feeling that there is calm. there is not a feeling of calm and that's the other thing that you want to encourage this feeling of calm so that there isn't panic on the island. >> you know, chris christie actually i interviewed him sitting there talking about the normalcy and one of the things he said and i've been thinking about this a lot is kids need to go back to school as soon as possible. that doesn't strike me as a thing that's going to be
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happening on the island of puerto rico for awhile and the states and fellow americans who are not necessarily familiarly connected to the island should be thinking about how we are -- on the mainland are going to provide for people that want to leave the island or can't send their kids to school there. >> absolutely. yeah, no. that's all future chapters but they are all worthy of talking about and considering because there are -- there are futures on the line and there is a generation -- there are generations of people on the island who deserve the same future as any american citizen. >> what's the song called and where can people find it? >> almost like praying and it will be available -- it's available wherever music is. the music goes -- the money goes -- they are faster if you buy it but if you stream it, there is an opportunity to donate and, you know, it's spread it far and wide. >> almost like praying. good to see you. >> good to see you. thanks.
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so many outlets to buy almost like praying. that is "all in" for this evening. rachel maddow show start the right now with the winner of not one but two tv news emmies last night. congratulations. wel well-deserved. >> now you're screwing me up, chris. >> honestly, really well-deserved. it made me happy. >> thank you. i was in very, very, very, very good company in terms of the nominees this year so thank you, chris. i >> go get them. >> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. that was very nice of chris. happy friday. today the labor department released news that the number of jobs in the united states actually dropped last month. at the end of last month, there were 33,000 fewer jobs in the country than there had been when the month started. that is a very

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