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no, she called to see if i was happy. but if i wasn't happy with my claim experience for any reason, they'd give me my money back, no questions asked. can you believe that? no. the claim satisfaction guarantee, only from allstate. switching to allstate is worth it. good day, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it is high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west and here's what's happening. breaking news this hour. a car rolls into pedestrians near a tourist attraction in london. police are trying to determine what happened. we've got a live report coming your way next. obamacare fix take two. president trump reaches out to chuck schumer on health care. what's behind the latest overture? calm before the storm, the president's cryptic phrase leaves everyone wondering, even apparently some who work in the white house. those details ahead. hurricane watch. nate is now a category 1.
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it is expected to make landfall in the southeast possibly as a category 2. the latest on nate's path, strength and timing sglchbl. we begin with breaking news f from london. a car rolled into a crowd outside of a museum. let's go to ali aruzi. pretty frightening times since this developed, ali, what do you know? >> reporter: that's right, alex. at about 2:20 local time, about 9:00 eastern, a car careened off the pavement, off the road into the pavement, crashing into several people. we don't know how many people were hit and how many people have been taken to hospital or the extent of their injuries, but we know this car crashed into a bunch of people. let me set the scene for you there, alex. this is an area called south
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ken kensington. there's several museums there. on a saturday afternoon in london, this will be teeming with people. families will come, groups will come, many with children, to visit the museums. it's on a major thoroughfare in london. if you follow the road, it depose to heathrow airport. in the opposite direction it goes to the famous harrod's shopping store and there are multimillion pound houses in this area. that's why it's made people very nervous very quickly because we've seen a number of these sort of attacks in london over the course of this year involving cars on westminster bridge. so any incident involving a car in london is going to make the authorities and the public very nervous. but i have to tell you that the police are not saying whether this is a terrorist attack or not. they put out a statement saying that they are keeping an open mind as the investigation is ongoing. but it bears all the hallmarks of previous attacks, and that's why they want to ascertain exactly what happened.
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now, the police in the uk are usually very good with this. they don't put information out until they know exactly what's happened so as not to make the public too nervous, so they're taking this stage by stage. as we mentioned earlier, what we do know is that somebody came off the pavement in this very busy tourist district, museum district of london, crashed into a bunch of people. then we've seen footage of both police and civilians holding down the man that was driving the car who was apparently trying to make a getaway on foot. he was seen handcuffed at the scene, detained by the police, and now we're going to have to wait and see if his identity is revealed to us by the police, what his motives were, was this indeed a terrorist attack, was it an accident or was it somebody with mental instability problems. i think that will all come out pretty quickly because they do have the man in custody and they'll be able to ascertain all of those facts in the course of the day. >> okay, it's a comprehensive
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report, at least as much as we have thus far. thank you for that. joining me now, former fbi agent and security expert david shepherd. david, with a welcome to you, in fairness we are not sure whether this was intentional but at the very least it highlights how very vulnerable public places are. there is anything that can be done to help protect these areas? >> good morning. we in las vegas have been looking a long time concerning how to protect the guests on the sidewalks. one of the things we've been doing is putting up ballards to prevent a car or truck from driving into people on the sidewalk or any kind of event. >> so there's something, which means dotting those cones or cement or along sidewalks, everywhere it would have to be done to completely prevent something like this. with regard to this incident, there's someone in custody, as ali arouzi was reporting. they did see police and citizens holding down one person but the
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police are not saying whether this was something of intent, whether this was an accident. what are the clues they are going to look for other than speaking with him? >> other than speaking with him, one of the best things that happened is the fact that he did not get out with a knife going into the crowd. this particular person could have been, like you said, a mental person to start with. we've had a lot of people that have had physical conditions, a heart attack or somebody that's completely drunk and we have to protect from that accident cause as well. >> yeah. can you give any assessment as to who is prepared or who is more vulnerable on this kind of security front? is it the u.s.? is it europe? i mean do we still have a bunch of lessons to learn or are you just in the process of trying to execute what we've learned from these lessons? >> it is constant learning. every day we're trying to apply new threats, new areas to start with. the same thing happened in las vegas from an elevated position. we have not seen that for 51
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years. now we're going into the vehicle assault type mode. everywhere in the united states we're looking at how we can protect the people on each of the properties and each of the events. >> it is an extraordinary and i should say daunting task no doubt, david shepherd. thank you for your insight, i appreciate that. we'll stay on top of this story. we don't know the details behind it yet or what the intent, motive may have been or whether it was purely an accident there in london. as soon as we get the information, we'll bring it to you. the day's other big story shall the president signaling a new strauty in the battle over health reform tweeting i called chuck schumer yesterday to see if the dems want to do a great health care bill. obamacare is badly broken, big premiums. who knows? peter, with a good day to you, is there a sense the president is serious about working with democrats on health care or is this more about sending a message to republicans? >> i think there is definitely a sense that the president is frustrated that republicans despite repeated tries have
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failed in their efforts to repeal and replace obamacare. whether he's looking for some new bill and whether that's even a possibility between republicans and democrats on this, well, i think a lot of people are skeptical of that right now. you will remember this does come in the wake of the president making his deal with his friends chuck and nancy, referring to chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, just about a month ago, specifically siding with democrats over members of his own administration in raising the debt ceiling. is there a potential for a second round on this? well, it remains to be seen. here's what chuck schumer said in a statement posted a little earlier today. he said the president wanted to make another run at repeal and replace and i told the president that's off the table. if he wants to work together to improve the kpexisting health ce system, we democrats are open to his suggestions. a good place might be to go to the alexander-murray negotiations that would stabilize the system and lower costs. i spoke to some democrats and
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republicans today on this topic. democrats say specifically, alex, in the wake of the move by this administration just yesterday, a controversial move about a controversial requirement of obamacare, rolling back that birth control mandate, democrats are saying, you know, before the president really wants to work with us, he has to stop in their words sabotaging some of the key provisions that exist in obamacare right now. >> all right, peter alexander, thank you from the white house. continuing the conversation, i'm joined by john harwood and white house correspondent for "usa today" heidi przybyla. with a good day to you both, john, your reaction to the president reaching out to chuck schumer. is he trying to send a message to republicans or is there something substantive here? >> my guess, alex, is that it's more sending a message to republicans. but there's no doubt that if he is serious and, as peter said it's very difficult to discern that when the president puts out statements like he does, there's a very good option on the table
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in terms of what lamar alexander and patty murray are negotiating that the president could credibleably sy say we'll lower premiums right now because it will restore subsidies to insurers to allow premiums to come down. all of the trends and difficulties in the marketplace which the trump administration is exacerbating are making prices go up. if the president is interested in a short-term win that he can walk out and say i lowered your cost, it is right in front of him. >> heidi, how about republicans, how do you think they'll react to this? how about the base, they want nothing less of repeal and replace. >> i don't think the republicans will be happy at all because they want to make another run-around at repeal. they made that clear when the latest effort failed and they want to come back to it next year. this is why i'm not seeing this as a policy break-through because chuck schumer's version was the president called and wanted to do repeal again. as you know, that's been a
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nonstarter from the very beginning. like john points out, what's happening at the same time that you have this show of trying to come up with a solution is that the administration is actively doing things that will drive up -- that are driving up premiums. that's not according to me, that's according to the insurance companies. we have the enrollment periods here approaching and money is being taken away from promoting the enrollment options for americans. the enrollment periods being shortened. all of this has the effect of driving up those premiums. until the administration shows that it's not going to continue to actively sabotage obamacare, how can you come up with some kind of a solution when you're part of the problem? >> okay. certainly we'll be talking a lot more about this. john, i want to get your reaction to the new poll numbers we have today showing 67% disapprove of the president's job performance. that number has only gone up since march. what is your takeaway on that?
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>> well, the president as a republican pollster told me the other day has spent all of his time as president trying to energize and solidify people who were already for him and done nothing to reach out to people who were against him. the consequence of that is that he has shrunk the ranks of the people who are for him. we've seen his numbers drift down. not dramatically, but some. and he has solidified the opposition. if you look in these polls at the share of people who strongly approve and strongly disapprove, which is a good approximation of base, in the a.p. poll that you referred, to 20% strong approve, 50% strong disapprove. that is better than 2-1 on the negative side and that's not good for republicans. >> heidi, your thoughts on all these? 67% disapproving of the president's job performance. >> what we're talking about here are those swing voters and those independents moving over decisively. and when you ask these voters in
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the beginning why they were willing to give donald trump a chance, it had to do with his agenda on jobs and the economy. all of those promises, like on infrastructure and a big jobs proposal, possibly tax reform, have taken a back seat to these decisive cultural clashes that we've seen the president be at the center of. according to a lot of the independent voters and even some of the voters that voted for donald trump after voting for barack obama who i've talked to, they have been disappointed that that has been the emphasis of this presidency instead of all of those things that the president as a businessman sold himself on to those voters. so i think it is really those middle voters moving decisively against him. >> i want to take a long-range lens look here and have both of you share your thoughts, because despite these numbers you have this "washington post" op-ed that's written by a democratic political strategist mind saying that he has a clear path to winning re-election. he said if trump isn't removed
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from office and doesn't lead the country into some form of global catastrophe, he could secure a second term simply by maintaining his current level of support with his political base. is that plausible, john? >> first of all, as somebody who never thought donald trump could be elected in the first place i'm going to answer that question cautiously. doug is a smart guy. yes, it is possible that donald trump could be re-elected. i think on the current path, he's not in good shape for re-election. part of doug's scenario turns on having a strong third-party candidate. i think it is less likely rather than more that there will be a third-party candidate that will take votes from people on the le left, given the nature of donald trump and how he has united democrats in opposition to him. if you have a base that is let's say generously a strong base of a third of the country, he's going to need a lot of help in order to win in 2020, and we
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don't even know yet what bob mueller will come up with. >> do you concur, heidi? >> i do. if that third-party option isn't there, especially when you look at donald trump's path in looking at the narrow vote margin, really 80,000 votes in three states, it is premised on the fact that the democratic vote was depressed with donald trump winning less total votes, for example, than previous republican candidates in states like michigan, simply because fewer democrats or voting. wayne county, oakland county versus the turnout in the upper part of the state. so after four years of donald trump, depending on who the democratic candidate is, that vote is going to be very energized an potentially on the republican side depressed. if there's not a third-party option, i don't see how that is a plausible scenario. >> also, alex -- >> yeah, john. >> i'm not expecting hillary clinton to be the democratic nominee in 2020. >> are you going to go on the record with that? >> i am.
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>> bold. >> john, thank you so much. making news. not so much. all right, guys, thank you. the battle over gun control. could any legislation have prevented what happened in las vegas? a member of congress joins me from nevada with some answers, next. ♪ when food is good and clean and real, it's ok to crave. and with panera catering, there's more to go around. panera. food as it should be.
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happening now, an effort to bring the community of las vegas together to heal. officials are holding a citywide unity prayer walk right now. it is set to last for three hours. it's going to end right in front of city hall. vice president mike pence is expected to make an appearance there later on this afternoon. joining me now, nevada democratic congressman dena titus. with a welcome to you, we talked last weekend. who knew what horror was to come after we finished speaking. but i do want to ask you, how are the people of las vegas doing? do you have a sense of normalcy
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yet? i'm curious about the city's mood. >> well, we'll never go back to the way we were. people are exhausted mentally and physically, but they are very strong. they are united, they are resilient and they're not going to let this lay us low. >> i'm looking at steps you are taking to try to help this problem, in endemic problem. you've introduced legislation to ban the sale of bump stocks, but they are reportedly selling out right now. is it already too late? >> well, we certainly hope not. we're going to look at banning them. that's legislation that i have with mr. cicilline from rhode island and i'm also working with mr. fitzpatrick, a former fbi agent, who represents a part of pennsylvania who regulate them. we hope that it's not just limited to bump stocks, though. there are other devices that do similar things, like something called an automatic glove that allows you to fire shots like an automatic weapon fashion. >> i'm looking -- the other two democrats in the house there in
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nevada, they signed onto your bill. i have yet to be able to find out what representative mark imodi had done. did he sign on? >> he has not. he represents northern and rural nevada, so i imagine he's more hesitant to do it. but we're not trying to take away people's guns. i'm not trying to do away with the second amendment. this is a very limited thing. even the nra is coming onboard to say we need to look at it and that's a major step for them to take. >> that sure is. and is there any meaningful gun legislation in your mind that could be enacted to save even one life, or 50 or 100? and how do we know that? >> well, absolutely. i think that there's several pieces of legislation that are already there. one of them is closing the loophole for gun shows. i think that's very important. there's legislation in congress right now, but they won't move on it. we had a sit-in on it a year or
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so ago. also if you're on the no-fly list from the tsa and the airlines, surely you shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun. those are limited very specific things, but i think they could make a difference. >> how about the president's visit to las vegas, do you think he struck the right tone? i'm curious how he was received by the survivors, the first responders, what he said, if anything, to you? >> well, he was very proper while he was here. we appreciated him thanking the first responders, and i was not with him when he went to the hospital, but i think he visited with a few patients who were open to that. he stayed on script in his comments and so it's good that he saw how resilient las vegas is. i hope that we send the same message to the vice president when he comes out here later today. >> are you seeing -- are you concerned about a drop in tourism or do you see tourists on the street, on the strip, like they would be on a holiday
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weekend? >> well, they're not as excited as they would be ordinarily because there's kind of a cloud over the city, but they are here. the best thing you can do to help las vegas is not to cancel your trip. the conventions are not cancelling either. a number of them have called us to say while we're out there, what can we do? how can we make a contribution? and that's very reassuring. >> that certainly is. thank you for joining me on this very difficult week. which areas of the gulf coast are in the path of hurricane nate? that forecast coming your way next.
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hurricane nate barreling towards the gulf coast. the national hurricane center says it could make landfall as a category 2 storm. let's go right to nbc meteorologist rafaphael miranda >> what's the latest? >> nate has been overperforming this morning, now with winds of 90 miles per hour and the storm surge forecast has become more dire because of those stronger winds. you can see on the satellite picture a more symmetrical and
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more organized storm this morning, again has been picking up in intensity. the maximum winds at 90 miles an hour, making it a strong category 1 hurricane and it's racing to the north-northwest around 26 miles per hour. let's take a look at the latest forecast track. you can see nate is expected to strengthen to a category 2 storm later on this evening, eventually making landfall around midnight around the biloxi, mississippi, area, just along the mississippi and alabama shores. that's where we're expecting the worst storm surge. now, nate eventually slides or rapidly slides to the northeast. my monday morning the center circulation of what was nate will be pushing into the northeast and we'll see rain spreading all the way into the northeast over the next couple of days. hurricane warnings for new orleans, biloxi, mobile, and we have tropical storm warnings in effect. we'll see that storm surge of course. the worst storm surge is looking to be biloxi, gulfport, 7 to 11 feet above ground level.
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