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>> he's the one accused of the crime. so why is she under the microscope? >> she's gotten caught in the middle of this crossfire and it's really unfortunate. it goes against everything that i know about andrea. >> was she cheating with her executive boss. >> be with me forever. would that be normal communication between your boss and you. >> scheming widow or suffering victim? >> who kills someone else's husband? there was no affair. >> "murder in broad daylight." hello and welcome to "datele extra." i'm craig melvin. he dreamed of being the next steve jobs, a rising entrepreneur who wanted to change the world. but his world came to an end one morning with four gunshots. at first, no one knew what to make of this case, but a jury made it clear, this was a crime of passion, a fatal triangle
involving a husband, a wife and a boss. here's dennis murphy. >> reporter: broad daylight, morning in a busy parking lot and then pop, pop, pop. >> several shots were fired. >> reporter: a man gunned down at close rang out side a nursery school in a wealthy atlanta suburb. a silver minivan screeched from the lot. stat tell star tell witnesses saw a man slumped on the ground. they recognized the man shot as a dad who just dropped off his 2-year-old son, a preschool, of all places, had become a crime scene. >> we are told all of the children are perfectly safe. >> reporter: the shooting victim being rushed to the hospital turned out to be 36-year-old rusty snyderman, a married father of two. >> i just hung my head and cried. >> rusty's older brother steve was on a plane to hawaii when he got the news.
rusty was dead. >> you can't walk around on the plane. pace around the aisles. i went to the bathroom and i looked at the door and i thought about jumping. >> he was desperate to get home to his family, desperate to find out what had happened to his little brother. >> my brother was murdered. no one should have to face that. >> reporter: he appeared at a press conference to talk about the family's incomparable loss. >> our whole family has lost its brightest light and we don't know why. >> that was the question. why rusty? his friend, laura hester. >> reporter: did any of it make sense? >> no. this was a man that was just so beloved by so many people. >> reporter: jeffrey moss lived across the hall from rusty in college. >> always had a smile on his face no matter the situation. always willing to help.
he always ended the conversation with, how can i help you? what can i do for you? >> reporter: in the tight-knit jewish community, a man like him is called a stand-up guy and now that very supportive community gathered around his wife of ten years, andrea. >> she seemed to be a good fit for him? >> absolute hly. they had been together since college. he always spoke about her with respect. >> reporter: the couple moved to dunwoody. >> they had a great house in atlanta, a summer house out at the lake, a boat, two great kids. they were living the dream. >> reporter: a dream that was violently shattered that morning in the parking lot. the virtual execution of a young husband and father was in no one's frame of reference. the ir rationality of the violence making it all the more terrifying. local attorney ester panage.
>> it put a lot of fear into the whole community. >> reporter: the fleeting thought, was it a hate crime, was the killer targeting jews? the other speculation had to do with rusty's work. he had once handled money, major amounts of money for high-net worth individuals. had an investment portfolio gone horribly wrong? here's a guy dealing with serious amounts of money. >> right. the initial thought was that it was a professional hit by somebody who had lost a lot of money. >> reporter: and, if so, was it someone that dunwoody circle knew well, maybe even a mourner circulating at the memorial service for rusty sharing his con do do condolenc condolences. what made rusty a successful businessman, his vast work made it all the more difficult for
homicide detectives to single out that one person who can have such rage about rusty need der man. he knew a lot of people. >> he was an excellent networker. he was constantly expanding his business and personal goals. >> reporter: but detectives caught a break. some of the witnesses were able to give the cops a description of the killer and his vehicle. >> it is a possible white male with a beard. he's about 5'10", 5'11", in his 30s. >> a police department sketch artist was able to render this portrait, a face with a dark beard, no mustache and two piercing eyes. the witnesses remembered it vividly. come forward and face justice. don't be a coward. >> who was the man in the sketch? coming up, the hunt begins with one giant clue. the getaway car caught on tape. our police close to catching the
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rusty sneiderman was gunned down outside of his son's preschool. police went to work to track down his killer. here again is dennis murphy. >> reporter: the shooter was no more than a police artist rendering, no details filled in. but his victim was quite different. there was a very complete picture of 36-year-old rusty sneiderman, beloved husband, father and son who grew up outside cleveland. his ther a father, marilyn and don. >> in your happiest memory, what do you see rusty doing? >> smiling and making you happy and laugh. he was wonderful to be around. >> he was a good kid.
he really was. >> reporter: but behind that wide grim and nice guy demeanor was a determined and ambitious businessman. >> he always had another idea that was bigger and better than the last one. >> reporter: rusty had spent time in the corporate world but now he was itching to go the steve jobs route. rusty's wife andrea, more than anyone, backed rusty to the hit when he wanted to focus on a startup. >> they were really partners in every way, shape and form whether it was in life, whether it was through business ventures. i think they both were able to treat each other in a way that made each other better. >> reporter: and their marriage seemed solid to people who had known them, which is why the details that came out later surprised everyone. but for now, rusty's grief-stricken friends and family wanted answers, answers that seemed to be taking a long time in coming. dekalb county district attorney robert james. >> no one had any idea who did
this when it happened. >> reporter: for weeks after rusty's death, police had been floundering, trying to untangle rusty's business relationships. suspicious that he had been gunned down by a professional hit man, they were looking for a money trail to lead to his killer. tracing the money trail, did it cost you a lot of investigative hours and times? >> it cost us thousands of investigative hours and time. >> reporter: as it turns out, this crime wouldn't be solved by following money. it would be following a minivan that was caught on cameras. weeks after rusty had been shot, investigate are tos tracked this van to this rental agency and then contacted the man who had rented it the day before the shooting. his identity would blow the investigation wide open. the man told them not only that, yes, he was the person who had rented the minute vee vivan, wh, he said that he was andrea's boss. was he the person in the police
artist sketch? did andrea's super visor from work kill her husband? he was named hemy newman in georgia. at ge, he was in charge of a multimillion dollar budget and thousands employees including his hire in april 2010, andrea sneiderman. police asked him to come down for an interview which turned into a 5 1/2 hour interrogation. >> you're shaking and twisting. >> hemy appeared nervous and he said he had been at work the day of the shooting. >> i was not there. i did not pull the trigger on the gun that shot sneiderman, rusty sneiderman. >> the cops sweated him. >> don't raise your eyebrows. you were there when he got shot.
>> you're this close to telling me. >> telling you what? >> telling me why this all happened. >> reporter: but then he shut down. even so, detectives thought they had enough evidence linking him to the crime. they arrested him and charged him with murder. then, an amazing turn of events. after his steadfast denials, the engineer admitted that, yes, he was the shooter. but he said he was not guilty of the crime because he had been insane when he pulled the trigger. a little more than a year after his arrest, hemy neuman's trial for murder began and the prosecutor said his insanity plea was prepros rouse. >> hemy neuman killed rusty sneiderman because he wanted his wife, his money, because he
wanted his life. period. >> reporter: and according to the prosecutor, the evidence would show that hemy knew exactly what he needed to do to accomplish that goal. far from being crazy, the prosecutor said, he tried to plan the perfect murder. five months after hiring sneiderman's wife, around halloween of 2010, he hemy neumanmade his purchase. >> he told me it was for household protection. >> he bought 50 hollow point bullets for $375 cash from this man. the transaction took place in a parking lot. >> he seemed like he didn't know much about guns but he was interested in learning. >> reporter: within days, neuman was at a gun range firing for 40 minutes. nine days later he put on a
disguise. rusty spotted him and called 911. >> i think he has a gun in his back pocket. >> reporter: was this a practice run or an aborted murder attempt. still, he was back on the computer a few days later, this time searching for a local costume store looking for another disguise. and then the prosecutors asserted the final countdown to murder began. 2:30 in the afternoon of november 17th, neuman rented a silver kia minivan. the desk clerk remembered him. >> he was in a hurry and very impatient. >> reporter: on november 18th, the silver minivan was spotted pulling into the, paing garage. and then neuman was caught a walking up the stairs. he logged onto his computer and left his cell phone on the desk. was he trying to create an alibi? next, hemy neuman got back in
his car. he was on the move. a few moments later he was seen driving into the parking lot of the suburban atlanta preschool where rusty sneiderman was scheduled to drop off his son. coming up -- a seismic shift in the trial as the widow takes the stand. >> he had deeper feelings for me than just friends. >> andrea sneiderman under scrutiny when "murder in broad daylight" continues. -ahh. -the new guy. -whoa, he looks -- -he looks exactly like me. -no. -sarated at birth much? we should switch name tags, and no one would know who was who. jamie, you seriously think you look like him? uh, i'm pretty good with comparisons. like how progressive helps people save money by comparing rates, even if we're not the lowest. even if we're not the lowest. whoa! wow. i mean, the outfit helps, but pretty great. look at us.
returning to our story, hemy neuman confessed to shooting rusty sneiderman four times in broad daylight. but was he acting alone? here is dennis murphy. >> reporter: the one who had stolen away their family's peace. >> i saw a man with no reaction to anything. and i thought to myself, how can that man sleep at night? >> he's a little inkling of a man. a little nothing. >> reporter: andrea sneiderman sat two rows ahead of rusty's parents. what andrea knew and didn't know would soon become a major focus of the crime. but as she listened to the details of rusty's last moments, she could hardly contain her tears. the killer walked up to rusty, he didn't hesitate --
>> and he shoots him three times. as rty falls in the parking lot that cold november morning dying, the defendant's not satisfied. he walks up and he puts that .40 caliber hollow point to rusty's neck, to his jug gu lar, and fires one last time. >> this is a brazen, outrageous crime. >> it was broad daylight, brazen, reckless abandon. rusty sneiderman was shot 30 feet from where children were playing. >> reporter: a husband and wife testified they came running when they heard the sound. >> i went up to the victim. that's when i noticed that he was bleeding out. >> i saw him like gasping for air and i wish i had started cpr right there but we were in so much shock. >> reporter: rusty had been best man at josh's wedding. the radiologist found it hard to hear medical testimony about the details of his friend's last
moment. >> it was the fourth and final shot. that's the one that went through his neck, through his spine, through his spinal cord and not only paralyzed him but that -- >> reporter: he was dead at that moment? >> yes. that's one of the hardest things for me to see. >> reporter: after delivering the kill shot, witnesses testified that neuman calmly walked back into his minute vee van and within hours back at his desk observed juggling routine meetings. the prosecution explained how the murder had been plotted out but now they wanted the jury to understand why. rusty was the last person standing between hemy neuman and the woman he loved. >> did you know the defendant? >> yes. >> reporter: andrea offered juicy testimony for the jury to ponder. she testified that hemy became obsessed with her weeks after working for him in april 2010. that he had stalked her and her
family, she said, and finally gunned down her husband. the unwelcomed courtship began at ge about six months before the shooting. >> how much time would you spend with him on a regular basis? >> there were meetings every other day, constant e-mail communications about work and projects. constant phone calls. we spoke about work things constantly. >> reporter: hemy became a fixture in her life. >> extremely friendly individual. caring, or pretending to be very caring individual. >> reporter: but one night during a business trip to lake tahoe, she testified, hemy stepped over the line. >> did the defendant ever express his feelings for you? >> yes. >> reporter: outside a restaurant before they had dinner together, he read a poem. >> the insinuation of the poem to me was that he had deeper feelings for me than just
friends. >> reporter: she says her boss confided in her that he was unhappy in his marriage and was thinking of moving out on his wife of 22 years. but rusty sneiderman's wife said she made her position clear. >> none of those feelings were ever returned and i made myself completely clear where i stood. >> reporter: hemy got the message, andrea said, at least for a while. and when hemy wasn't being inappropriate, she says he was a good friend. >> i admit to caring about hemy, he managed to get me to tear about him and that's actually the point. he was very good at that, very good at manipulating everyone around him to feel bad for him. >> reporter: with rusty launching a company from the ground up, andrea felt she had to hold down her steady paycheck. she told the jury she walked the tight rope as best she could. >> given the situation that i was in and that he was my boss, i handled them all with care and
did the best i could to keep him at bay. >> did you ever report the defendant's contact to anybody at ge? >> no. >> why not? >> i would have been fired. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear your response. >> i would have been fired. >> reporter: andrea had kept hemy's advances to herself, for the good of the family, she told the court. but now the prosecutor wondered this. the police artist sketch released days after the shooting bore a striking resemblance to her boss. why hadn't she demanded that police focus their investigation on hemy? what was she hiding? coming up, some pointed questions for the widow. >> did you wake up together in denver and tahoe? >> no. >> was there an affair? >> they were groping each other. >> did you see the parties kiss? >> yes, i did. >> when "murder in broad daylight" continues.
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las vegas is now remembering the 58 people killed in the shooting rampage one week ago tonight. investigators went back to the gunman's home today. casinos and other businesses, though, will dim their lights later this evening to honor the victims. vice president pence walked out of today's colts game in indianapolis after some of the visiting san francisco 49ers kneeled during the national anthem. president trump says that he asked the vice president to do so. for now, back to "lockup." welcome back to "dateline extra." rust sneiderman's wife andrea took the stand in her boss' murder trial and prosecutors had tough questions for her. here again is dennis murphy. >> he pretended to be my friend and i was doing the best that i can to deal with that situation
and he had my whole life wrapped up. >> reporter: jurors had heard a harrowing tale from rusty sneiderman's widow, stalking her and catastrophically ripping her life apart. and now the prosecutor is suggesting that the toxic triangle was even more complicated than it seems and that andrea was holding back important parts of her story. there was this kind of watergate question. what did she know and when did she know it? >> we went in and we knew she was lying. we told her we knew she was lying and that didn't seem to affect her so we knew what we needed to do on the stand and we simply did it. >> reporter: in court, he hemy neuman was the accused but at times it looked as though andrea was on trial, too.
the prosecutor suggested that andrea was a willing partner in the murder. hemy could not have been insane if he was conspireing to kill rusty. >> it says, think about it, "be with me forever." would that be normal communication between your boss and you? >> reporter: the victim's widow was aggressively questioned about business trips with her boss that being looked like a series of terrorisrysts. a week after the trip to tahoe, he joined her in corado >> did you pick the defendant up at the airport? >> yes. >> did you take him back to walmart with you. >> yes. >> did you share a room? >> no. >> she denied they shared a room in colorado but workers at the hotel remember a change of rooms. >> our records do show that andrea sneiderman during her stay switched from a room of two beds and one person to a room
with one bed and two people. >> reporter: a month later, in august, something happened on a trip they took together to south carolina. something that andrea felt she had to repent for. she read aloud in court -- >> your apology is heartfelt but does not make the ongoing pain go away. >> what happened? >> we were holding each other's hands and that's it. it may sound worse than it is, but to me, that was a betrayal. >> so you're repenting in the e-mail at least from holding his hand? >> yep. >> reporter: but the work trips continue and the emotionally e-mails continue. hemy wrote words like, marry me. >> that's a cop out, it's about how you felt what you wanted.
how you felt when we looked at the stars in tahoe, when we woke up friday morning in denver, when you took my hand and nestled your head on my shoulder. did that happen? >> did what happen? >> did you wake up together in tahoe? >> no. >> anda mht not have known it but hemy like a moonstruck teenager was confiding in a real estate friend named melanie white. the friend testified that hemy shared with her all of the messages that he had received from andrea. >> what i saw is that andrea wanted hemy and would lead him on, going out of town with him holding hands with him and eventually, from what i'm told from hemy, actually having sex with him. >> reporter: on the stand, andrea was adamant that a trip that she and hemy took to eng
grand in september was strictly business, even though their itineraries included a play and a nightclub. >> we did not go to the dance club. in fact, we did not do any of the things that are insinuated that we did on that itinerary. >> reporter: jurors heard evidence that hemy and andrea did go dancing when they were in greenville, south carolina. a month before rusty sneiderman was killed. the barmaid testified that she saw public displays of affection that would have justified the taunt of get a room. >> he was spinning her around and they were groping each ot r other. >> did you see the parties kiss? >> yes, i did. >> how many times? >> about three times. >> did you see the female push the male away? >> no. on one occasion, she actually kissed him. >> andrea denied the barmaid's account. >> did he kiss you? >> nope. in this case when you're talking about alleged affairs and
someone else's husk murdered, i ink people tend to think they saw a lot of things. >> reporter: andrea denied all of the innuendo, sharing rooms, groping one another on the dance floor. she says she never had sex with hemy neuman, a claim she repeated when a best friend confronted her after rusty's funeral. >> did andrea admit or deny it? >> she denied it. >> based on all of the time that you've known andrea, when she told you no, did you believe her? >> no, but my heart really wanted to believe her. >> did she make a comment about if she wasn't married? >> yes. >> what did she say? >> maybe if she was not married she would have been interested. however, she loved her husband and was not interested. >> that statement echoed something hemy had told his friend. >> what did he tell you about the london trip? >> that he and andrea got closer. he and andrea had decided that
they were soulmates. he also told me that andrea was adamant that she would not leave her husband and her two kids. >> andrea was interested in hemy but would never leave her husband. that was the message rusty sneiderman's wife was sending her boss, and they promised to prove to the jury that the inner turmoil that was mixed up in hemy neuman was enough to send this mild-mannered but troubled man into the realm of legal insanity. >> coming up -- >> i've been kicked, i've been slapped, i've been whipped and those things you don't forget. >> haunting secrets from hemy's past. and a question, did celebrity voices drive him to kill? a strange detail gets even stranger when "murder i broad daylht" continues. out to pop a"m fresh" in that washer. with unstopables in-wash scent boosters by downy.
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andrea sneiderman and her boss hemy neuman seemed to have a strong relationship. demons in neuman's past became a strange and significant factor in the case. >> whose boss kill's someone else's husband. i don't care affair, no affair, there was no affair, who kill's someone else's husband? >> hemy neuman was the killer. that's what the prosecutor told the jury. that's what his alleged mistress told the jury. even hemy neuman himself said he did it, a police detective testified. >> he admits to the shooting, correct? >> yes. >> but hemy neuman's defense attorney says their client
shouldn't go to prison because he had one more secret to confess. he had been tormented by demons since he was a boy. defense attorney bob rubin -- >> mr. neuman's problems really began years ago and they went undiagnosed over the course of his lifetime and, as a result, he got progressively worse. >> reporter: and the defense made a bold allegation to the jury that hemy's violent act against rusty was triggered by none other rusty's wife andrea. >> she had planted the seed and stoked the fire and she knew that what she set out to do with somebody who was sick, that she had accomplished. >> reporter: his psyche was so fragile, the defense argued, that it hadn't taken much from andrea to send hemy over the edge and if the defense could prove that he was not guilty by reason of insanity there was
chance he would escape prison, if not a hospital bed in a psychiatric unit. his younger sister monique painted a picture of hemy's painful neighborhood. >> monique, would you describe for the jury your household at 6:00 in the evening when your father was coming home. >> anxiety. >> reporter: monique explained that their father, a violent and alcoholic man, had beaten both children savagely. >> i've been kicked, i've been slapped, i've been whipped. and those things you don't forget. >> reporter: and monique said hemy took the worst of the beatings. >> my brother got up, went to get a bowl of ice cream and before we knew it, the bowl of ice cream went flying, hemy was getting slapped and it just kept going and going and going.
>> reporter: but it was a boarding school that hemy had experienced his first delusion, this defense expert described. >> he described the demon as much bigger than him. he said that when he felt and saw this demon, he felt anguish. deep pain. >> reporter: by the time andrea met him, he had a history of breakdowns and was on the history of teetering on another one. his fascination became as a fantasy, something to help him escape his troubled life but the workplace infatuation soon became something much darker. hemy's confidant said that it looked like andrea would wind him up, turn him hot and then cold. >> she treated him like a yo-yo. she would have him all the way at the top and say this is the
greatest and we're soulmates and having a great time out of town and then coming back in town and texting him and saying, we can only have a business relationship. we can no longer do this. >> reporter: defense expert dr. an dree yan na flores strengthened the delusions that hemy was having and in this altered state he would listen to andrea complain about rusty, how the children were shying away from him. >> your conversation or communication was saturated with discussions of the children, saturated with andrea sneiderman's complaints about her relationship with her husband. >> reporter: hemy thought something needed to be done, said his defense, especially when the demon from his childhood returned. he described it in this jailhouse interview. >> when you say big, how big? >> not as high as the ceiling. >> okay. >> but almost. >> all right. so --
>> like towering over me. >> hemy said the delusion took a surprising form. he sounded like barry white. >> reporter: he also said he saw an angel who sounded like olivia newton-john. the angel's message, it was just out there as the vision itself. according to hemy neuman, the angel assigned him a deadly mission. andrea's children, the angel told him, were at risk from rusty sneiderman and it was hemy's duty to kill rusty to eliminate that threat. >> he thought he was doing the right thing because he thought he was saving those children from the same kind of trauma that he had. >> reporter: bout the prosecutin painted a different picture. >> you say he's -- >> he was probably the smartest person in that courtroom. >> reporter: the prosecutor told the jury that hemy had lied about his hallucinations to try and get away with murder and
that the defense experts had fallen for it. >> and if he lied to you about that delusion, then everything in your report is off the table, correct? you're wrong? >> that is correct. >> reporter: the prosecutor called a parade of witnesses to the stand. hemy's work colleague who is had seen him every day. >> did you ever see anything that made you question his mental stability? >> no, not at all. >> have you ever observed him when you thought he was hallucinating? >> no. >> according to the prosecution's own witness, it would have been impossible for hemy to have covered up such a serious mental illness. >> there is going to be some evidence somewhere of a marked apparent. >> reporter: nor would someone so unstable have been able to methodically plot out not only the crime but the covering of his tracks, as hemy did. >> this was just another project for him. he did it -- >> i've got a problem, i'm going to approach this like an
engineer, how do i resolve the problem? >> he mathematically solved his problem. >> reporter: during that jailhouse interview, hemy described to the prosecution's psychiatrist -- >> i'm a great, great executioner. once plan is in place, it's going to happen. >> reporter: but amid all of the expert witness testimony over several days, debating hemy neuman's mental health, a hypothetical question posed by the prosecution caught the most attention. >> if there was evidence that this is, in fact, a plan by andrea and the defendant to get rid of rusty so they could be together, then everything he told you would be wrong and you would be wrong, wouldn't you? >> if i knew that they had corroborated together, yes, that would change my opinion. >> reporter: this was the first time in hemy neuman's trial that a direct reference was made to a potential plot between the shooter and the victim's widow. what did andrea sneiderman know and when?
>> andrea schneiderman is playing each and every one of us for a fool. >> investigators had harbored doubts about the grieving widow as soon as they had their suspect, pushing hemy neuman during his investigation to see if he would give her up as his accomplice. >> i think this was a plan. i think it's beyond you. think it include someone else. >> the idea that andrea schneiderman wasn't just a passive bystander to her husband's shooting, but that she had been in on it was a theory pushed hard by both the prosecution and the defense. >> i was crying a lot, i was bawling. >> an eyewitness testified that even after rusty's body was whisked away in an ambulance, she, a perfect stranger, was weeping at the scene, but the wife, when she arrived, not so much. >> she didn't have like a tear in her eye. you know, i told one of the detectives that, as well. >> andrea had testified that when she arrived at the scene that morning, she had been told only that rusty had been involved in an accident, not
that he had been shot. >> i didn't know what happened to rusty until i got to the emergency room. >> but listen to what both her father-in-law and her friend said andrea told them before she got to the hospital. >> andrea called us and she called and said rusty had been shot and she was so, so sorry. >> she immediately at the same time was screaming to me that rusty had been shot. >> how had andrea known that fact that rusty had been shot if no one had told her that? >> and perhaps most perplexing of all, within minutes of being told something had happened to rusty, andrea had dialed and re-dialed her boss, but her husband who she believed was in an accident? >> how many times did you call rusty? >> call rusty? >> rusty. >> zero times. >> and a demeanor issue for the widow. the jurors heard a tape of andrea being told six weeks after her husband was shot police had made an arrest.
>> we made an arrest. >> are you serious? >> we have. >> can you sit down? you're ming me vy nervous. >> did andrea know beforehand who the shooter was? according to a friend, andrea had confided in her that she thought hemy neuman resembled the police sketch. if she had any suspicion hemy was involved, why hadn't she told police? >> she kept seeing hemy's face in those sketches, is that correct? >> not the face, um, it was the eyes, is what she said. >> in those drawings were published certainly no more than two days after rusty was shot, is that correct? >> i -- i guess so. >> andrea hugged her best friend as she got off the stand. but once the two women were in the hallway, out of the view of the cameras and the jurors, andrea report threatened her. the best friend's lawyer said he overheard the confrontation.
>> andrea tells her, i understand why you did what you did, but now you're going to have to live what i'm going to do. >> the trial judge banned andrea schneiderman from the courthouse for the remainder of the trial. but what motive could andrea schneiderman possibly have had from any of this? investigators learned she had collected $2 million in life insurance after rusty's death. but would that really compensate her for rusty's lifetime of earnings? was murder the only way out of the marriage that may be wasn't as solid as friends thought? but a close friend said that andrea was a victim in that courtroom. >> she's got caught in the middle of this cross fire between hemy and the prosecutors and it's really unfortunate. >> jeffrey moss, who first knew andrea as rusty's college girlfriend and then watched them start life tether and a family doesn't believe andrea had anything to do with the murder. >> it goes against everything that i know about andrea and her morals and her behaviors and her personality. >> during closing arguments, the
focus was on andrea schneiderman yet again. had she manipulated the mentally unstable hemy neuman into killing her husband, as the defense contended? >> the gun in this case was in hemy's hand, but the trigger, i respectfully suggest, was pulled by andrea schneiderman. >> if he and andrea -- >> or as the prosecution argued, was neuman trying to hide behind a fabricated mental illness to avoid answering for a murder plot that he concocted with his lover. >> which one is more likely, that it's these imaginary beings, whoo, i see dead people, they're telling me to kill people, or is it the woman that stood to gain $2 million and he did too? he's not crazy, he's a co-conspirator. >> on the third day of deliberations, the jury announced it had a verdict. andrea was not in the crourtroo to hear it.
>> we the jury find the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but mentally ill. >> the jury foreperson told "dateline" that the jurors believed hemy was mentally ill, but nonetheless should go to prison. >> we were all very passionate that we were not going to be comfortable with hemy neuman thinking that he could actually walk. >> was there a discussion of where's andrea schneiderman? why are we not talking about her? >> for us, it was still, this is not about andrea schneiderman. if there was an affair, that's between andrea schneiderman and hemy neuman. >> before imposing sentence, the judge heard from rusty's killer. hemy neuman's statement was brief. >> i am so, so, so sorry. i'm sorry from the deepest part of me, your honor. >> and then it was over for the disgraced business executive. neuman was led away after the
judge sentenced him to spend the rest of his life in prison. and in a written statement, issued after the verdict, andrea schneiderman said she was grateful to the jurors and felt justice had finally been done for rusty. but the prosecution wasn't finished. in 2012, andrea schneiderman was charged in the miniatuurder of husband, rusty. those charges were dropped. then in august 2013, schneiderman faced new charges and was found guilty of perjury and hindering the apprehension of a killer. sentenced to five years, in 2014, schneiderman was released from prison and completed her parole three years later. and in 2015, a break for hemy neuman, or was it? the georgia supreme court threw out his original conviction, saying the trial court erred in admitting evidence protected by attorney/client privilege. but in a 2016 retrial, a jury
found hemy neuman guilty once again and he was sentenced to life without parole plus five years. >> that's all for this edition of dateli looiline extra. i'm craig melvin. thanks for watching. due to mature subject matter viewer discretion is advised. a night at the beach with his brother's truck sends a repeat offender back to jail. >> i fell asleep in the truck, and the tide came in. and took the truck out into the ocean. brand-new truck that he just paid off. >> but he still has the love of his aunt. >> i want to say he's a poop head. i don't think he's vicious. i don't think he's mean.