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turns to action. and when it might not and does not. because bob corker is saying plenty. telling "the new york times" that the president could put the country on the path to world war iii. calling on his senators to say what they say privately publicly. but will they? will this trigger new reaction from the foreign house committee itself? and down pennsylvania avenue with democrats already upset about this apparent demand for a border wall, tied to a plan to help so-called dreamers in this country, one source telling us that wish list might be a non-starter. and burying underneath it all, the deadly crisis gripping this country, the opioid epidemic simmering still more than eight weeks after the president said he would declare a national emergency. so far he has not. talk versus action again as we talk with kate snow in our ongoing special series on the opioid crisis and the devastating effects on kids. kids whose parents are hooked on
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heroin. first, we want to start with the big political headline of the day involving kristen welker at the white house with new reaction to senator bob corker this morning. and kristen, i want to kind of set up this thing here because corker told "the new york times" that president trump is treating the office like a reality show. like he is doing "the apprentice" or something setting the country on the path to world war iii. and he's calling out the president's tweets that are untrue. everyone does it according to senator bob corker. this is an extraordinary moment. when the republicans and the white house will be asked about today, and one senior adviser has been asked about it, right? >> reporter: that's right. and the white house is pushing back very hard against this stunning criticism by senator bob corker. effectively saying it is unfounded, it is politically motivated. take a listen to what kellyanne conway had to say and we'll read more tweets on the other side.
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>> we've all worked with senator corker over the years. we thank him for his service, but i find tweets like this to be incredibly irresponsible. it adds to the insulting that the mainstream media and the president's detractors almost a year after this election, they still can't accept the election results. >> reporter: so just to give everyone some background, hallie, this really all started, we first started to see a rift between senator corker and the president in the wake of the president's controversial response to charlottesville. bob corker very critical then. he was, again, critical last week after a report about increased tensions between the president and secretary of state rex tillerson. corker said tillerson was among those separating the country from chaos. this sparked the twitter feud that erupted on sunday. let me read you the tweets, the president saying, senator bob
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corker begged me to endorse him for re-election in tennessee and i said no so he dropped out because he could not win without my endorsement. he expects corker to be a negative voice to stand in the way of the agenda. didn't have the guts to run. corker quickly disputed that through a spokesperson saying the president called him and tried to convince him to run for re-election. >> he didn't just dispute him, he said what the president is saying is not true. >> reporter: right. that's absolutely right. and it feeds into what he told "the new york times," which is he alleges, and he says that on twitter the president often tweets things that just aren't true. corker fired back at those tweets i just read to you, hallie, a really remarkable tweet that we have seen from the u.s. senator to say it's a shame the white house has become an adult day care center. someone obviously missed their shift this morning. bottom line, this goes to the first point you were making, what does it all mean?
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will more lawmakers and senators speak out against this president? and what does it mean for the president's agenda? they are rolling out a new immigration plan and trying to get tax reform done. we are expecting the president to announce a new policy toward iran. he needs bob corker for all of that. so this face-off could have very practical implications for a president whose legislative agenda is already stalled. hallie? >> kristen welker live at the white house. we'll see you on the north lawn later today. eli, the white house reporter for ""the wall street journal"" and sarah westwood for "the examiner." it is one thing to talk about what is going on and what is going to happen. when bob corker sent the tweet about the adult day care center, when everybody picked up their phones and said, oh, my god, mitch mcconnell didn't push back on senator corker. that is remarkable.
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>> and i trust the reporting on this and it jives with what we have heard about the relationship between this white house and the republicans on capitol hill. just really deteriorating quickly over the last several months. partly after the health care meltdown and nothing getting done there and the president blaming mcconnell, blaming republican leadership and hammering them and working with democrats and attacking republicans, in his mind, fully supportive. you saw kellyanne conway that said they can't accept the election result. corker was happy to work with this administration. and eight months in, sort of a sea change in corker's way, he's term limit and the only one out on this limb so far, but they thought they could work with the president within the system. they thought they could talk with him and coach him and help him and it hasn't worked. >> it was not just that senator corker accepted donald trump as president, i think back to the
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first speech that donald trump gave, bob corker was the one with any weight on the world stage to come out to say, yeah, i'm going to praise the president here. and two months later, president trump said this, listen. >> a great friend of mine, somebody respected by everybody, senator bob corker. great guy. great guy. great person. >> what happened? >> that's a great question. i mean, bob corker was among a small group of senators like senator purdue and tom tillis who were pretty closely aligned president trump. senator bob corker is fore shade doing what will happen if more republican senators decide it's not worth the trouble to run again, those senators could wield enormous power if they decide it's better for them long-term to retire and they are not restricted by having to run for re-election. >> so this gets back to the way we have sort of set up what the headlines are of the morning, talk versus action in a lot of
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different ways. bob corker is coming out and talking. he's all but begging fellow republicans to say something publicly, too. telling "the new york times" the president concerned me, he would have to concern everyone that fears for the nation. every single day at the white house it's a situation of trying the contain him. sarah, you know what is going to happen when congress gets back from recess, every reporter is chasing after him going, what do you think, do you agree with bob corker? do other republicans have to speak out? or is this a situation where they won't get into that kind of thing? >> a lot of republicans don't have that cover. some of them have tough re-election battles coming up in 2020. others live in districts where their constituents overwhelmingly still support president trump so they don't have the kind of political room to speak out against president trump. so they might have to hold back even though it is kind of an open secret that a lot of republicans speak privately of president trump that way. >> let me bring us back to policy because that's where it affects -- >> another point on that, steve bannon is out there licking his chops trying to recruit more challengers. there's a reason why the only
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guy out there saying is what a lot of them are saying privately is why he's decided to retire. >> before he does, he could still have some influence here. "the atlantic" has a headline where he says, will corker's talk turn to action? this is not any republican senator, although they are important, this is the head of the foreign relations committee and he has it in his per view to do something on, for example, iran, which is going to be a big topic this week. what do you see as the path forward for bob corker here? is it is this explosive interview with "the times" and that's it? >> we saw the president's tweets. that's an interesting place to be because you're going to get a reaction, but the article was interesting where he talked about the hearing and does bob corker go that route? in his position, he certainly could. i don't know if it will happen
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at this point. it depend what the white house wants to do on iran and north korea, but that is certainly an option. >> one gop source said, acknowledging the obvious, which is the president needs every vote he can get on tax reform. alienating bob corker is not going to help. i'll tell you in private conversations with folks at the white house, there's not a lot of push-back. this is not an ideal situation for them moving forward on policy. >> remember, it was just one senator, senator john mccain who derailed the entire health care agenda. they don't have a lot of room to lose any solid reporters. there was a lot of uncertainty on everything. >> this is only the beginning of conversation. sarah, stay with me. it is not about the personality, but the new priorities on immigration. but even after the president decided on a deal to do a deal with the democrats, his demand for a border wall is not going
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mexico will pay for the wall. just in case there's any question, mexico will pay for
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the wall. mexico will pay for the wall. mexico will pay for the wall. when i say mexico is going to pay for the wall, they all laugh and think it is funny. >> you know it, one of president trump's most memorable campaign promises. who is paying for the wall? the white house wants money for the southern border wall in exchange for any deal on daca, that program that protects dreamers in this country. what else does the white house want to do? here it is, close loopholes to allow unaccompanied minors stay here legally. block grants to sanctuary cities. hire 10,000 more i.c.e. officers and end extended family chain migration. bottom line, it's a hard-line policy. kasie hunt is joining us onset along with eli and sarah back with us. cas kasie, let's talk about this. doesn't this roll back what he
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made with the deal with democrats. >> it does go back with the deal he made with democrats. chuck and nancy, i normally wouldn't refer to them that way, but they have done this twice, once on spending, obviously the president followed through on that, but when they came out and stood up and said, hey, we have a deal with the president, i think there was a lot of wondering about whether they were going to find themselves in the same place that frankly republicans have found themselves over and over again where the president doesn't follow through. and the statement that they put out after these principles came out, they said, quote, we told the president at our meeting that we were open to reasonable border security measures alongside the dream act, but this list goes so far beyond what is reasonable. and the proposal fails to attempt any compromise. what is this about? this is about the border wall. their agreement and principle was that you will not build the wall in exchange for this. we'll go along with other things and the president seems to have blown it up with this framework. >> and essentially it's a
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gigantic signal to his, frankly, base of supporters here. i had one person describe this to me as stephen miller's wishlist. he was always taking a stance on the immigration policies. >> president trump has faced an enormous amount of pressure from conservatives and grassroots leaders and talk radio hosts like laura ingrahams of the world and congressman steve king, people were big championships of the immigration proposal not to feed his best leverage ever to get the boarder wall. there were conservatives afraid that if he didn't fight for the border wall while protections for dreamers were hanging in the balance, that he would never do it. he'll never have as good of leverage to push for the border wall, so you're seeing some of the criticism getting through to the president. >> eli, based on the list of immigration priorities we just showed there and based on your reporting, what is negotiable and what is not negotiable? >> what they have put out is the
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democrats is a non-starter. this is not going to move. >> even some republicans are acknowledging it. >> this almost feels like steven miller who was incredibly agitated by the readout of the meeting and the agreement between the president and chuck and nancy on daca was so agitated that this is a list of principles put out basically to con train the president to say, you're not giving up the source for this. and it gives back, the reason d daca is still there, starting with steve bannon whose strategy this was, it's a little counter-intuitive, but they wanted to keep this as leverage and that's why you see trump going back and forth to talk about this, i'll do this and i'll do that. the hard-liners on immigration, certainly there's no more hard lines on stephen miller to make sure that doesn't get given away. >> let's talk about stephen miller, we gloss over his back story, he worked for jeff sessions, who is the most hard-lined cabinet officer on immigration. there are some on capitol hill
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who would argue that he almost single handedly amounted a campaign to kill immigration reform when the bill wound its way through the senate. like, he was essentially a one-man messaging machine. and we saw how toxic that became for so many republicans, marco rubio among them, for example, so it makes a lot of sense that once he saw how this was unfolding, he pushed back and now here we are with having this fall apart. >> matt's piece in "the new york times" this morning is deep-diving into who stephen miller is, where he came from, his background, totally worth the lead. kasie, does congress get a daca deal done on this? you have the immigration priority list coming out but the push for tax reform. you have, by the way, all reporting that the president is leading to decertifying the iran deal and kicking that back to congress. they have, like, 29 actual working days before the end of the year. >> he's going to decertify the iran deal and may want to give bob corker a phone call. >> correct. >> i actually -- the other piece of this is they do have to come
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to a new major agreement on the spending architecture. these two things get tied up together, now i can see a scenario where schumer and pelosi decide, forget this, we're not going to keep the government open if you are going to keep them hostage to the border wall. this took up the temperature and opened the door to a lot of things that we have sort of hoped were not going to be dealing with at christmas time in washington. >> kasie won't be sleeping for the entire month of december. eli and sarah, before we go, congress is not in town this week. so any of these questions, at least from the hill, will have to wait. but we are getting a little bit of new information from senator feinstein announcing she will run for re-election, which is interesting out there in california. her tweet here, not a surprise, right? >> i think there was speculation she might retire given her age, but i don't think folks who cover the hill are all that surprised at all. >> no, i think behind the scenes
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she was signaling this is going to happen. but she's been under incredible pressure in california. and i do think that my sense of where the politics are going out there, she's had town halls and dealt with protesters and people who know essentially -- she has not really fought the bernie sanders supporters are very strong in california. i just think that the landscape for fine state has change in a way that i'm not 100% sure her team has recognized. >> thank you, kasie hunt. you two, stick around longer. we'll turn to what is happening in nevada one week after the deadliest shooting in modern american history. investigators in las vegas have a long list of questions that need answers. and now police are asking for the public's help to try to get them. we have a live report, next. but if that's not enough, we offer innovative investing tools to prepare you for the future. looks like you hooked it. and if that's not enough,
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we are back now with a look at the morning headlines. and new reaction after vice president pence walked out after
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football players took a knee. the vice president was hopeful all the players would stand but was prepared to leave if they did not. but the vp tweeted, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, i don't think it is too much to ask nfl players to respect the flag and national anthem. at the stadium, reporters traveling with the vice president were told to stay in the van because, quote, there could be an early departure from the game. the vice president is getting some heat from democratic adam schiff calling this a taxpayer funded stunt. and if you heard about this from the "washington post" this morning, google finding proof that russian agents bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of ads. the ads in an attempt to interfere with the 2016 election. this is something new we'll be watching. they were used on google platforms like youtube and gmail. they appear not to be linked to the kremlin troll farm that bought ads on facebook. so to people this seems significant. and this morning, actress meryl streep is the latest to speak out against harvey
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weinstein to the huffington post. she called his actions disgraceful, alleged actions inexcusable and an abuse of power. he was fired from the studio he co-founded after sexual harassment. a statement said in light of new information about misconduct by him, he'll be terminated immediately. weinstein issued an apology for past behavior and his attorney released a statement in which he called "the times" report false and defamatory saying it ignored evidence provided in advance of the storm. we have not verified these by nbc news. and hearing from the police officers who used s.w.a.t.-team tactics to close in on the vegas shooter's hotel room. they are now describing the room as an armory, saying they were tripping over guns when they found the shooter dead after he shot himself. they were also talking about this man's plan to carry out the killings. listen. >> days of planning, days of planning. he had tool boxes and power
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tools and had run wires for his surveillance system, for everything that he had, it took him days to finish. >> nbc's ron allen is in las vegas with the latest on the investigation, the emotional memorial and much more. ron, what is the latest? >> reporter: well, hallie, we are here at this memorial that has just been an amazing magnet for people drawn here to pay their respects to come visit. and you can see there are 58 individual crosses, one for ei . and there's never been a time when somebody hasn't been here with the victims f. y. if you look closely here, this is 34-year-old tara roe, she was here from alberta, canada, to enjoy the concert like so many others. it has been an amazing thing. thousands and thousands of people have come here. now, as for the investigation, the authorities still can't answer the question as to why, which is a question a lot of
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people have who come here because they want a sense of closure, they want to have some reason for why the shooter did what he did. eric paddock is now here in las vegas working with investigators and fbi profilers trying to get into the mind and head of his brother to understand what his motivation was. what it was that drove him to the brink where he would carry out this massacre that killed so many people that evening at the concert. we're also learning more about how paddock carried this out. there are interviews with the detectives, the s.w.a.t. team composed of a detective, a couple k-9 officers who came onto the scene. and the hero in this was a man named jesus campos who happened to be on the 32nd floor as the events began unfolding. paddock spotted the security guard through the jury-rigged surveillance system he made up
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and fired through the door at the security guard 200 rounds. and that, many say, is what stopped the shooting out the window down on the crowd. and perhaps prevented the deaths of so many others. there are so many heroes, so many stories, just unbelievable recollections of what happened that night from people who survived who have been here. and in this town, las vegas is a bit of a town, everybody you run into has some story or connection to these events. someone they knew was coming to the concert, somebody was there, a first responder, this is an amazing experience to be here, it is very powerful and emotional as the community comes together to heal and support each other through the very difficult days still ahead. back to you, hallie. >> ron allen live in las vegas. thank you. i want to bring in eli stokels and sarah westwood. there's been obviously here in washington since the vegas shooting a conversation about gun control and a conversation
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about these so-called bump stock devices that the shooter used here. congressman steve scalise has been asked about this. he was on with chuck todd over the weekend in this interview. as you know, scalise was shot during the congressional baseball practice. i want to play a little bit of this exchange now. >> it is a long history in our country to make sure that you protect the rights of citizens to bear arms. >> but is it unlimited? >> it is. you're right in the sense that there are already limits on the gun ownership, but frankly let's go out and enforce those laws. don't try to put new laws in place that don't fix these problems, they only make it harder for law-abiding citizens to own a gun. >> eli? >> well, it's surprising to hear him say that given that he was a victim and almost died from a guy trying to carry out a random shooting. but it's not surprising in light of steve scalise's politics, not surprising in terms of where the republican party has been on guns, a complete no, red light, you're not going to touch it. i think the nra last week after
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this gave what seemed to be a little bit of a green light. >> a little bit of a narrow opening on bump stocks. >> but that's become more of a yellow light. they don't want legislation, maybe some regulatory fix. i don't think, and we talked in the last block about how much congress has on its plate. democrats will push for this. support may broaden publicly, but it is hard to see this moving especially with the calendar and all the things congress has on its to-do list. >> i do think the nra gave the white house and republicans an opening to come out against the continued legality of bump stocks. obviously, it would be a bad position for the white house to be to the right of the nra on a gun issue. i do think there's a good chance you could see congressman scalise emerge as the republican party's voice on gun control in these highly emotional moments because he does have an element of moral credibility given that he was involved in a shooting that someone like gabby giffords gave the left when talking about shootings. so i think it is not surprising
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to see him come out to speak about gun control. >> sarah, eli, thank you. coming up, we'll look at the country's opioid crisis and how it is affecting the youngest kids. we'll hear from a 9-year-old boy in utah whose mom and stepdad were addicted to heroin.
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show more than 33,000 people die in 2015, that is the highest number ever in one year. nearly half of opioid overdose deaths involve prescription. my colleague has done a series of reports looking at the impacts of this in the country. kate, today you're looking at how this is affecting the youngest victims of this, kids. >> yeah, hallie, we have been all over the country looking at what is happening to children, particularly those who live in homes where opioids are being used. out in salt lake city, i met 9-year-old hagan who used to live with his mom and step-dad both addicted to heroin. tell me about fourth grade. >> it's very hard. >> reporter: it is? >> with math. >> reporter: over legos, hayden told me why he missed a lot of school last year in third grade. you missed the bus sometimes? >> yeah. >> reporter: how come that would happen? >> well, because i woke up by myself, got ready by myself and, yeah. >> reporter: he said he would often make dinner for his two
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younger brothers and take care of his newborn sister. >> one time at night, my 4-year-old brother woke up and started crying. and then my littlest brother started, woke up and started crying, too. >> reporter: why were they crying? >> mom and dad weren't there. >> reporter: it sounds like you had to take charge sometimes? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: yeah. hagan lives with his biological father and his family. things are better for him and he's getting to be a 9-year-old kid again. but his mother and step-father were arrested back in june. they remain in jail. they admitted something, hallie, almost unthinkable to police. when hagan's newborn sister was born last april, they knew the baby would likely be addicted to opioids because mom used heroin during the pregnancy. so to avoid detection in the hospital so the baby wouldn't be taken away from them, they told police the step-father actually put opioid drugs on the baby's
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gums to keep her from showing signs of withdrawal. hallie, in utah, the state of utah, nearly 1 in 20 babies is born with opioids in their bloodstream. >> when you listen to stories like hagan's, he's one example of something happening again and again in this country. >> reporter: yeah, and it is happening to hundreds of thousands of kids. >> so the president, you know, my day job is over at the white house, said more than eight weeks ago he would declare a national emergency when it comes to opioids, that still has not happened to this point. >> reporter: it has not happened. and the white house officials say that is because they are running the tracks, it's a legal question, they have to figure it out, because usually a state of emergency is declared to every a natural disaster. this is different so they have to legally make sure they can do it. and that they will have then the federal resources available, the money, to back up whatever they are trying to do. i will say, on background, the white house said, the white house officials say that they are taking this very seriously.
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they point to many actions that the president has taken already and is treating this as a top priority. they have dedicated resources, but they also say, look, this is a crisis that was 15 to 20 years in the making. and it's not going to change overnight. i talked to one official the other day who said, we're doing more than the federal government has ever done, hallie. but it is just such a huge problem. the scale is so huge that they cannot get their arms around it. >> kate snow, thank you for joining us here with your theories. we'll be watching for more on msnbc and over on "nightly news" as well. much appreciated, thank you. eli skokel and sarah westwood are back here. these stories are happening all over the country as kate just pointed out. it's a massive problem. a massive epidemic. and you have federal officials trying to get their arms around it, but that is proving to be very difficult there, sarah. >> yeah, absolutely. this cuts across racial lines and socioeconomic lines, all
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over the place. it is one of the issues where there's bipartisan consensus. we have to look at the way we treat opioid abuse. it is a mental health issue. i think all of those questions have the same answers, whether you ask republicans or democrats. the problem is that it's not politically sexy. it's not something that attracts politicians to dedicate a lot of their time to. and like we have been talking about, effect on the legislative calendar, there's not necessarily time to fit this in. and it is a silent slow progression to the crisis. there's no urgency for this. >> i will take the white house at its word when they say they are working on this. they do take it seriously and are running the traps. this is a little more complicated than the president makes it sound. i'll take them at their word on that one. but the difficult thing about this is when you have a president like this, who as bob
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corker eluded to in a lot of his tweets and a lot of people have noticed, this is a president who veers from one thing to another, who gets distracted and whose rhetoric is not that serious about some insidiary things he says, he's usually joking. this is something that demands the president's moral authority. and attention. and a president has a bully pulpit that is not just to bully people, it's to bring attention to national emergencies in epidemics like this. this is not a president who has really spoken with or about this, i would say, as much as people who are affected by those who would like to see and the president who has maintained a sober enough voice and trusted enough voice to do so. >> very quickly, sarah. >> he set up an entire commission to judge what should be done on opioid abuse. and recommended to him after reviewing this is why this should be reviewed. >> sarah, eli, stick around.
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more than three years after isis swept through iraq, the government is making some progress. last week the iraqi troops rolled into the city prompting a thousand isis fighters to surrender to the kurds. the iraqi forces have now driven isis from all cities and towns it seized in the summer of 2014, including mosul, which was will be rated back in july. you remember that. joining the panel, doug alavant, senior national security fellow with the new america foundation. our panelists, eli and sarah are back as well. so doug, this is something that i think just slipped under the radar. these isis fighters surrendering, turning themselves in, not going and making martyrs of themselves like they want to. we talk about the fight to retake mosul, that took nearly a year, but the other cities have been taken in two-and-a-half
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weeks. >> after the long-hard fought in mosul, the iraqis moved and completely took seven, ten days, almost no time at all. they seemed to have collapsed. it appears, you always want to be cautious, but it appears that they really had the bulk of their forces in mosul. that's where their elite troops were. and once mosul fell, there's not much left. >> that's significant. the idea that isis may have collapsed now. it's all but collapsed in iraq. >> it's huge. and it seems to have happened so slowly over time. there's not a good moment for us to say, hey, here's the vj day. if anything, the fall of mosul was the closest thing we had to that, but there was still an isis threat outside. >> it seems to have surprised even the curd irauthorities, for example. here's what "the new york times" says that kurdish officials say, many of the fighters claim to be cooks or checks. so many were members of the islamic state for a month or two. that interrogators suspected
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they had been coached to say that. what happens to these prisoners? >> well, this is a great question. there's going to be a lot of them. eventually, i think someone is going to have to be rehabilitated and brought back to society. that's going to be really hard for people who have committed gener genocidal acts and torture. if you were persecuted and your wives and daughters were raped, do you want the cousins of the sunni arabs who did that, who didn't participate but didn't help either, do you want them living next to you? are you going to feel comfortable with them living next to you? these are hard questions as iraq tries to put the mosaic of northern iraq back together. all the different minority groups. >> and what is and should be the u.s. involvement in that? >> u.s. the just needs to help provide aid and coach. there's nothing we can do to make people feel better about living next to each other.
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that will take time and security. but we can help provide fighters, help provide money and weapons and be shaking the tin cup at the international community to do the same. >> you have what is happening in iraq and syria where there are reports that isis is just days away from losing control of raqqah. how significant is that coupled with what we are talking about now? >> it's huge. raqqah is the other former capital of the islamic state. with mosul gone and iraq gone, they have a few little cities, some in syria, they have a little bit of terrain in western anbar and iraq, but essentially they are pushed out to the desert. and they are no longer the force -- just remember, three years ago we were asking them if they were going to concur saudi arabia and jordan and baghdad was going to fall. >> given that, eli and sarah, doug said four times in this conversation, this is huge. this is a big deal. we all remember when donald trump said he would bomb the blank out of isis. you have secretary mattis saying the fight against isis has reached annihilation tactics. why are we hearing more about
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this from donald trump when he could point to this as success in the region or the start of success? >> it is hard to answer any question that starts with the answer why? but you make accomplished and come back to hurt you. some restraint is maybe understandable but given all the other things he talks about, given that the president will sort of tease everybody as he did last week around military families by saying this is the calm before the storm, essentially you ain't seen nothing yet, it is curious when you have tangible, positive accomplishments by u.s. armed forces in an area we have been struggling to control for a long time, it is curious. a more disciplined, focus administration might be at least, you know, making sure the american people are taking measure of what's happening. >> i think that a lot of president trump's allies have expressed frustration in the past even when there's a clear cut black an white victory for the white house, president trump is too often preoccupied with other even petty things to focus
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on it. i think a great example of that was when the supreme court gave him what was essentially a legal victory in the travel ban case a few months ago. president trump hardly mentioned it. he was focused on fake news and going after his enemies and the white house has a clear xafexam of where the policies are working and too focused to go after senator corker to give it the attention. >> doug, thank you for coming on and that perspective of a story to continue to cover. i appreciate it. next, the mayor of san juan, puerto rico, again slamming the federal response after the island deals with a new round of flooding. we are headed there after the break.
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they had these beautiful, soft towels. very good towels and i came in and there was a crowd of a lot of people and they were screaming and they were loving everything. and we were -- i was having fun and they were having fun. they said, throw them to me! throw them to me! >> president trump talking towels, defending this moment when he went to puerto rico last week. today the situation on the ground there is still very, very serious. more than 40% of the island still has no running water. and these towns outside san juan and more remote parts of the islands are more and more desperate for assistance. gabe gonzalutierrez is on the g in san juan and has the latest. >> reporter: good morning. weer here in san juan near the
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convention center and behind me you see the aircraft preparing to deliver supplies throughout the island. this is a massive military relief effort. a three star general is going out several days. yesterday he was in the western part of the island delivering some of these supplies. still, there's been criticism of some leaders here on the island who say this aid is not distributed fast enough. most notably san juan's mayor blasting the fema response. the administrator saying that he's basically, quote, filtering her out and not paying attention to the political noise and that battle is not showing signs of going away any time soon but the governor says there's been improvement here on the island. 78% of gas stations are now open. 77% of supermarkets. but, hallie, a major problem remains. the power grid here, 12% or so of the island has power at this
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point. and not even a third of cell phone towers are working so as the aid is being distributed it is slowly trickling to other parts of the island. san juan is starting to pick itself back up but as the governor says, power is expected to be out for months. >> gabe gutierrez on the ground there in san juan. i want to bring in eli and sarah. in the last couple of minutes we have learned that the governor of puerto rico sent a letter to congress asking for more money. about $4 billion for different agencies saying that unless extraordinary measures happen that the humanitarian crisis will deepen. congress has given i think $29 billion disaster relief package for hurricanes harvey, maria, will they authorize more? >> i don't think there's resistance in congress to disaster assistance when the governor on the ground encountering the facts of what's going on every day is making that request.
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so clearly, i think that, you know, i can't imagine there's a huge political debate about it but like president trump kind of alluded to it while he was down there, puerto rico's putting our budget out of whack or whatever, there might be fiscal conservatives to pump the brakes a little bit. >> i'll say this. in my conversations with the administration, they acknowledge some folks there's going to need to be more for longer term funding and this was intended to get through the end of the year and needs to make sure that the systems get up and running long term. >> does president trump know it? he was handing out flashlights to poem saying you probably don't really need this anymore, saying 16 people died. congratulations. this isn't a real catastrophe like hurricane katrina. he didn't tour the devastation that we showed on the screen. he wants to sort of gloss over this saying all is well when clearly all is not well and given the statement about joking
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that it was putting a hole in the budget, you don't know if donald trump will say, really? you need this money? with this president an enthis administration, we never know. >> paraphrasing the comments of president trump last week. sarah, thank you both for being on set for a jam packed monday. check this out. this little guy sitting off the coast of santiago, a tiny piece of land known as monkey island off the coast of puerto rico. hurricane maria ripped apart that island. this place is one of the most important research sites in the world. it's home to 1,000 monkeys like the one you see here whose brains may contain clues to the mysteries of the human mind. now you have a small group of scientists racing to save them. they say nearly everything on the island was destroyed but amazingly the monkeys survived the hurricane's direct hit. the photographer here ramone
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espinoza for the ap. i'm doing the instagram takeover take for our msnbc account as well heading to the white house as usual as every monday. right now, turning it over to chris januarysing in new york for more news. >> hi, halli e. good morning, everybody. it is october 9th. let's get started. >> president trump's latest war of words is particularly striking because this time it's with the republican chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> bob worker of tennessee telling "the new york times" that the president's reckless threats could set the nation, quote, on the path to world war iii. >> saying he treats the office like a reality show. like he's doing "the apprentice" or something. >> not running for re-election, sort of unleashes him to do and say whatever he wants to say. >> what's the one thing that will work with north korea? >> you will figure that out pretty soon. >> the pnt

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