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state, six or seven hours after suggesting they compare iqs. and you know who the president thinks will win, but experts think everybody else loses with a low point for u.s. diplomacy as the u.s. sets fire to bridges connecting to the people he will meet. people like bob corker. president trump deploying an old nickname at the last frenemy. >> if bob corker has any honor, any decency, he should resign immediately. and from the political firestorm to the out-of-control wildfires in california wine country out west, this morning we found out somebody else has died, meaning at least 11 people have been killed so far. 1500 homes and businesses destroyed. we're live in santa rosa. then back here on the east coast, more on the country's opioid crisis and the heartbreaking story of this 14-year-old girl who has seen
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enough pain for a lifetime. you do not want to miss the story of this remarkable young woman sharing her story with us. but i want to start with the world of politics and plenty to discuss on this tuesday morning. i want to start with my colleague, kristen welker, over at the white house. kristen, take your pick. i guess let's start with iq tests. >> reporter: where to begin, right, hallie? there's so much to talk about today. right, the iq test. president trump essentially serving up some increased tensions with his secretary of state ahead of their lunch today, which will be tracked very closely. we wish we could be flies on the wall, of course. but he said this to "forbes" magazine in relation to news reports we broke that secretary tillerson referred to him as a moron over the summer. take a look at the quote. he said, i think it is fake news, but if he did that, guess we'll have to compare iq tests. and i can tell you who is going to win. that is a striking escalation of
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the tensions, hallie, between those two. and it raises questions about whether they can work together, about how tenable this situation really is. and it comes as the president is gauged in another face-off with senator bob corker, the chairman of the powerful senate foreign relations committee. bob corker telling "the new york times" he thinks some of the president's provocations could be leading the country into world war iii. "the new york times" releasing audio overnight. take a listen. >> sometimes i feel like he's on a reality show of some kind when he's talking about these big foreign policy issues. and, you know, he doesn't realize that, you know, we could be heading towards world war iii with the kind of comments that he's making. and it's like he -- it's like it's an act to him. >> reporter: and hallie, not surprisingly, the president firing back on twitter this morning saying this, the failing
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new york times set liddle bob corker up by recording his conversation. was made to sound a fool, and that's what i'm dealing with. look, the concerns behind the scenes at the white house among top officials, hallie, is that the president is dealing with a lot of things right now. the crises in north korea, tensions with iran, of course, we expect him to unveil a new iran policy later on this week. these are people he needs in his corner. of course, the secretary of state of a bob corker as well, are these feuds making his agenda more difficult, complicating what he needs to do as commander in chief? in addition to that big lunch he has with secretary tillerson and defense secretary james mattis, he's also going to be sitting down with former secretary of state henry kissinger. so a lot here to unpack at the white house, hallie. >> kristen welker, a busy day for you, my friend. see you in a little bit. first, to mount pleasant, south carolina, where garrett haake just talked to another frequent republican donald trump critic, senator lindsey graham.
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garrett, let's talk this through. after the gop silence, there's new reaction from republicans today that seems to center around two things to me, number one, bob corker is a good guy, that's the line, and number two, none of this makes it easier for the president to get stuff done. >> reporter: that's exactly right, hallie. republicans want to diffuse this fight as quickly as they possibly can. they know it is just not helpful. they cannot get their agenda passed if they spend their time taking hot shots at each other. lindsey graham does not agree with bob corker's characterization of the path, but he respects bob corker and thinks he's a smart guy. and he knows how important he is to getting the president's agenda passed. and he told the president that yesterday on the golf course, and told me the president was a little surprised at how much bob corker pushed back at him in "the new york times." take a listen to some of this interview. >> this is a business. and most americans probably
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don't know who bob corker is. most americans don't care what he thinks of you and quite frankly, most americans probably don't care what you think of him. they do care about their family security, their economic well-being, and i don't think it helps any of us to continue this. i like them both. i respect bob corker. the president and i have had differences but had a really good time on the golf course. and for us to cut taxes, reform health care, rebuild the military, we're going to have to find that common ground. and we'll have differences, but at the end of the day, this back-and-forth is not helpful. >> reporter: and hallie, graham went on to say if the republicans don't pass tax reform or repeal obamacare or do any of the other things they have promised, no one is going to care who won a twitter fight between the president and a senator come election day. >> garrett haake there, standby for a couple minutes because i want to bring you back into the conversation. but first i want to bring in our
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panel, heidi presbola and white house reporter for "usa today," and ken vogel, new york reporter for "the new york times." let's start with liddle bob kosher, paging marco rubio who may have to say something about that name being taken already. bob corker knew he was on therd wrote. he acknowledge in the transcript being on the record. you heard garrett talk about the reaction from republicans like lindsey graham. this isn't helpful for the president. >> corker knew what he was doing. he was sort of approaching this point earlier, he sent out the tweet about the adult day care center, the white house being like an adult day care center. and it's also something that as heidi and i have discussed, a lot of senators, a lot of republican senators feel. they have similar sentiments. the interesting thing is that he went on the record to express that. he knew he was going on the record. and he knew that there would be a fallout like the one that we're seeing right now. or he had to know that.
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>> and newt gingrich is acknowledging that none of this is potentially useful for the president when it comes to his legislative agenda. he was out this morning talking about it. here's what he had to say. >> the truth is the president will not get his major things done without bob corker. so i hope the two of them will have lunch, get over it. i'm not sure if that technique will work for corker, but have lunch, get over and move on to help the country. >> that's a donald trump ally. he's pointing out exactly what this means. the consequences of it. >> one of his allies have always said, the twitter never helps you, it usually hurts you when striking out against people like bob corker or lisa murkowski when it came to health care. but the president doesn't show any kind of forethought to these things in terms of what his strategy is, what his end goal is in terms of the legislation. it's a pretty simple calculus. and each one of the instances is that he felt he got hit. apparently, you can link this up perfectly with the "fox & friends" segment to show corker
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critical of the president and the president immediately lashed out. so there's not a lot of forethought to what the end goal is with his agenda. >> none of this will likely disturb the president's base who loves to see him throw torches at the establishment. also throwing torches at the establishment is steve bannon, sort of fresh off his stint at the white house and turning back into his sort of breitbart mode here. demanding that if corker can't fall in line, he should resign as you heard at the top of the show. here's what steve bannon had to say. >> we are declaring war on the republican establishment that does not back the agenda that donald trump ran on. it's a new game in town. we're going to cut off the oxygen to mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell's biggest asset is the money. we're going to make it the biggest liability. we're going after these guys tooth and nail. >> will that make a difference? >> it could. in fact, there are plans afoot for him to, him and donors who support him, which is the critical point here, to go into the primaries on behalf of the
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republicans challenging incumbent republican senators. if they are able to actually get a sort of serious amount of funding behind a super pac or something like that, it certainly could cause problems. i don't necessarily know that he's going to be able to divert establishment republican money away from mitch mcconnell and the super pac he supports, which is what he's signaling right here. because there's not a lot of crossover between the folks who would support bannon, i'm talking specifically about the mercer family on long island and the folks that are establishment republican donors. but certainly it's a headache for mitch mcconnell. >> let me pull back in broader context, this is a president who is, we talked about this before, on an island. this is a place we have seen him before. he's increasingly isolated inside the beltway. that's not to say what is happening with folks outside who support him, with trump voters still backing him. it is not just with the senate either, with his own secretary of state. we sort of joked about being at that lunch today, that is going to be fascinating after the president basically said to rex
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tillerson, yeah, i'm smarter than you. and i can prove it. >> but if rex tillerson is smart today, which i think he is, he will go into that meeting and will agree. he'll say, you are smarter than me. you have great gene, sir, let's move on to bury this hatchet. this meeting is so critical because that needs to happen. of course, hopefully we won't all be apprised of the embarrassing moment specifically, but that is what needs to happen with the two of them getting past this. because we know donald trump having this news out there about him being called a quote/unquote moron, is worse than anything you could say. >> i want to get back to garrett haake, but i want listening to "morning joe" this morning and richard haas was on and said something rather striking in putting this in context. >> this is probably the low point of american diplomacy. you have a president who doesn't respect the secretary of state. you have a president whodiploma.
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and a secretary of state who is cutting back the ability to carry out diplomacdiplomacy. >> there are diplomats around the country who don't know what u.s. policy is towards their part of the world. you have trump saying one thing and tillerson saying another. it complicates it. then the personal emenmyty between them, it is worse. >> garrett, we have talked about this, the president is hinting on twitter to do something on health care. essentially, if he can't get it done legislatively, he's looking to try to do something around the edges from the executive perspective. and he's working with rand paul here. give us the quick rundown of what we expect to see, maybe as soon as this week as the president eludes to. >> reporter: so rand paul's idea here, which he has been pushing far very long time, is to allow for associations of people to ban together and buy insurance plans across state lines. much like big corporations do. you can imagine it almost like a giant insurance club.
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and if you've gotten members in 20-plus states, maybe you could buy insurance from across state lines in those other states. this lines up with something the president campaigned on. you may remember marco rubio sort of mocking him on the debate stage. for this idea that the president's health care plan focused on buying health care across state lines, getting red of the lines. rand paul has a vehicle to do that. and now we'll see if the president and his team can translate rand paul's idea into some kind of executive order text that can pass muster and maybe give republicans some kind of point option the board on health care when they have been unable to deliver legislatively. >> garrett haake. joining us live from south carolina, appreciate it, buddy. we want to stay on politics for a second, because majority leader mitch mcconnell is talking taxes and today saying democrats have to forget about what they have been doing and join the gop on tax reform. you can read more in the new column on check it out. heidi and ken, stay with me.
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but first, i want to follow breaking news out of california. because so far more than a dozen wildfires have been burning out of control. this morning more evacuations have been ordered as we have learned 11 people have been killed. more than a thousand, 1500 homes and businesses destroyed. joe fryer is in hard-hit santa rosa for us. joe, listen, i have covered wildfires a lot and you have covered wildfires a lot, this looks bad. what kind of progress are firefighters making? >> reporter: well, hallie, firefighters are optimistic to make more progress today. so far all the fires, there's at least 15 of them in the northern california area, so far zero percent containment on pretty much all of them. but the good news is that they have been slow to spread in the last 24 hours. that's largely because those wind gusts, those wind gusts that top 50 miles an hour during the heart of this thing, those have died down considerably. that's giving firefighters a chance to attack these fires. but the damage really has been done. if you're looking behind me here in santa rosa, you can see this
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is just a small sample of the damage throughout these neighborhoods. neighborhood after neighborhood, every single home on these blocks destroyed. we know throughout this northern california area, at least 1500 homes and businesses have been destroyed by these fires. one of those victims, a woman named sherry sharp who lives in santa rosa. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i've lived here for 26 years, raised my kids here. all our pictures are gone. everything. everything is gone. we have a fire pit. it's pretty awful. but we're all healthy and safe. and we have to just try to be grateful for that. but it's pretty awful. >> reporter: thousands are still under evacuation orders. and hallie, here in santa rosa,
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they were under a curfew overnight. >> joe, you're up in wine country, but further south, you have a pretty bad fire in anaheim, too. >> reporter: that's right. so most of this is in northern california. but down in anaheim hills, not too far from disneyland, there was another major fire. that one fueled by winds, at least 24 structures destroyed there. disneyland was not harmed, but from there were images of orange ominous skies with smoke in the background. certainly that would fighten a lot of people, hallie. >> not quite the happiest place on earth for those folks there. joe fryer, thank you. santa rosa, california, for us, good luck out there. today all eyes are on north korea as the nation celebrates a key anniversary with defense secretary jim mattis asking military leaders to be ready with options if diplomacy fails. up next, we'll break down what the options are and why mattis actually wants his generals talking to the press. that's next. let's take a look at some numbers:
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the president is committed to denying north korea the ability to hit america with a nuclear weapon. does that mean we go to war? no. does that mean that war is possible? yes. >> that's senator lindsey graham this morning in south carolina on his conversations with president trump about north korea where this happened earlier today. check it out. the anniversary celebrations for the regime's ruling workers party. experts warn kim jong-un could conduct a missile test to mark today, but there are no reports of anything so far.
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back in washington, defense officials including secretary jim mattis keep stressing diplomacy is the best way forward in dealing with north korea, but secretary mattis also laid out this stark warning to his troops. >> now what is the future hold? neither you or i can say, so there's one thing the u.s. army can do, and that is you have got to be ready to ensure that we have military options that our president can employ if needed. >> joining us now, sumi terry, former member of the national security council and kevin baron of defense one. heidi and ken are back with us as well. sue, let me start with you, secretary mattis' message isn't new, but the president appears to be saying over and over again diplomacy hasn't worked, in your assessment, where are we here? is this more talk from president trump? >> well, i see it is more talk, but the problem is we shouldn't be complacent. north korea may not test today,
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but they are going to test an intercontinental ballistic missile and probably going to test nuclear tests, have other nuclear tests, they are going to continue on this path where they will have to finish and complete the nuclear program. and what trump is doing by not giving an exit ramp to north korea is this could lead to a miscalculation that war is the only option. and it may lead to some sort of escalation that could spiral out of control. so i think we are just boxing ourselves in with this kind of rhetoric. >> so to get out of the box, you wrote back in june for "the washington post" that bolstering sanctions might not be exciting but it would be a more pragmatic step than another attempt at negotiations. since then, we have had more sanctions put in place, do you still hold that view, though? is that still the way the administration should go? >> well, i do. there's no other way to really press the kim regime. it is through sanctions and
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through second tear sanctiary s. but these have not been enforced. trump is going to asia and china. and i'm sure that meeting will be quite important to see if we can get china to rein in on north korea. >> kevin, nobody is pushing back on this that war with north korea would be devastating, a huge loss of life to the region, but what do we know about the getting ready for this. >> this is secretary mattis at the big army convention in the washington, d.c. he was asked, what can the army do to tap down the tensions? he said to be ready, be ready for all options. >> which he said before. >> a little later in the morning, the chief of the army, general milly, was asked the same thing and said, look, there are options on the table, but there is a time line. it is not indefinite, which is a new thing. so we have options for doing things depending on how far advanced the north koreans missile program gets.
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so there's a plan, but they won't tell us what the plan is, but the chief of the army said this is not an indefinite waiting game. >> but the posture hasn't changed on the ground. >> nothing has changed. >> i want to bring in heidi and ken he talking about the north korea strategy. here's what he had to say. >> some of the president's comments on international issues actually shows unpredictability, whether has been beneficial with cases like north korea when you find out that kim jong-un is reaching out to republican strategists to see what is this guy made of. >> basically saying the unpredictability could be what happens with president trump. he's on the war of middle east, is he right here? >> this does throw north korea off. that's different from saying this is an actual concerted plan. in fact, one of the things corker said is his controversial interview with jonathan martin of "the new york times" is that there is no plan, there is no
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strategy behind the tweets. it is just what donald trump is thinking at the moment. that is why it complicates rex tillerson to engage in a backchannel with north korea because he has no idea what donald trump is going to say. >> heidi? >> yeah, with the president freelansing, that's what corker is telling us with the comments. there's no good cop, bad cop, this is just the president freelancing. and the president is, what is the goal of the unpredictability. is it to spook someone we know unstable and possesses nuclear weapons? or is it to spook his neighbors like china so that they tighten up on the sanctions? there's an argument to be made if you spook his neighbors into taking those actions, yes, but the result here is based on nicholas kristoff's good reporting that we are spooking a madman with nuclear weapons who is starting to indoctrinate his people. >> we may hear more from secretary mattis and his top generals as reporters here because there is a new directive
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out aimed to see what the pentagon wants out of budget negotiations. you have a new piece on this. >> the top command and several generals met at the pentagon for a two-time of the year meeting where secretary mattis told them, it's time to start talking. apparently, he felt -- >> meaning to us, to reporters and members of media. >> he thought there was a perception among the commanders, the nato supreme court commander, admiral harris in the pacific and the press people that they weren't supposed to be talking. we are not hearing from secretary mattis on tv. and because of the era of trump that we're in, generals do not want to weigh into the politics of this. so the unpredictability of this, there's trump and what he's going to say as far as the deals, but the military has their own predictability and don't want people to know what they are going to do when it is time. >> thank you for joining us onset. sumi terry, thank you for being with us from new york. appreciate it. coming up next, we'll turn to what is happening in nevada with the new timeline on the las
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we are back now with a look at the morning headlines. 11 people have been killed with more than a dozen wildfires out in california. more than a 100 square miles have been torched. talking about homes and businesses destroyed, including well-known wineries in napa and sonoma counties. and donna karen is now walking back some comments she made that seem to come to harvey weinstein's defense. after "the new york times" reported allegations of sexual misconduct against the hollywood movie m movie mogul. karan first said, you look at everything around the world today and how women are dressing and what they are asking, by just printing themselves the way they do. what are they asking for? trouble. the designer later said, quote, my statements were taken out of context and do not represent how i feel about the current situation concerning harvey weinstein. i believe that sexual harassment is not acceptable. winestein has issued an apology for his past behavior, but his attorney released a statement in
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which he called the original "times" report false and defamatory saying the paper ignored evidence presented to them in advance of the story. these allegations have not been verified by nbc news. and in the time line leading up to the las vegas shooting, police now say before the man opened fire outside the crowd on mandalay bay, he fired on a security guard. miguel almaguer has more. >> reporter: investigators are working around the clock to try to get a motive. that's their top priority, but for now it remains elusive. this morning new information about the minutes leading up to the las vegas shooting. the sheriff now says six minutes before stephen paddock unleashed the fury of gunfire on concert goers, he fired more than 200 rounds at a hotel security guard through his closed hotel room door. at 9:59 p.m., the unsuspecting
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guard responded to an alarm set off by an open door on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay. a room unrelated to paddock's suite. the guard jesus compos is shot in the leg but survives alerting others of the gunman's location. >> immediately upon being injured, he notified security of his situation. >> reporter: at 10:05 p.m., paddock begins to spray the crowd below with ammunition as police rush to stop it. >> do you think the suspect's engagement with mr. campos sped up the timeline of the shooter? >> i would not make that assumption. >> reporter: police found a door in paddock's hotel room was fortified with a metal plate. a second hole was also drilled into his wall. the gunfire lasted ten minutes. during that time, the suspect also shot at massive jet fuel tanks at the nearby airport hitting one. >> we believe he decided to take the lives he did.
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and he had a very purposeful plan that he carried out. >> reporter: police now say paddock checked into mandalay bay three days earlier than originally reported. they are now trying to retrace his every move using the countless security cameras throughout las vegas. >> we have uncovered over 200 instances of the suspect's traveling throughout las vegas. and he has never been seen with anyone else. >> reporter: and police say the gunman was gambling the night before the massacre. but today his motive is still unclear. this morning some new answers, but the biggest one, why, is still a mystery. investigators say they will likely be at both of those crime scenes. the gunman's hotel room and also the concert field for another week. they are still trying to get inside the suspect's head. hallie? >> reporter: nbc's miguel almaguer reporting for us from las vegas. coming up next, epa
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>> that's scott pruitt declaring the war against coal is over. pruitt said to start withdrawing from the clean power plant. that's the set of standards put in place by the obama administration that regulates carbon emissions from carbon plants. ann thompson is joining us now from new york. great to have you with us on the show. and i want to talk through what this means because the clean power plant is really a big part of the last administration's part to fight climate change. so what does withdrawal mean? >> this means essentially, hallie, if utility companies want to go back to using cold fire power plants to create electricity, they can. but talking to people within the utility sector, they say that, look, the biggest problem facing the coal industry isn't the clean power plant, it's simple economics. natural gas is cleaner and cheaper. renewables have come down dramatically in price. and you add that to the fact that consumers want clean
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energy, whether they are major players like walmart or facebook or google. or just the average homeowner. you put that all together, even if you repeal the clean power plant, things still don't look good for coal. >> the reaction from the fuel industry, environmental group, we're seeing more of that, in addition to what doctors have to say about this, right? >> well, you know, doctors are very concerned because if you increase the amount of coal-fired power, that means you're putting more particlots in the air. if that happens, you'll see more asthma attacks. more days missed in school and work from various illnesses. and more premature deaths. in fact, when the obama administration enacted the clean power plant, they said, it estimated they could save 36 premature deaths a year with this plan. now, as you can imagine, the people are coming down on predictable sides. the fossil fuel industry is handling the move.
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the environmentalists say, we'll see you in court. right now the only ones winning are the attorneys because they will go to court over this. >> we are looking at different attorneys general including from the state of new york, the state of massachusetts, they are saying, hey, we're going to sue. >> what they are saying is that basically the trump administration is turning its back on a major issue facing this country, which is climate change. they say what they're doing is irresponsible. and they're putting the public's health at risk. and beyond that, they say, the epa has the ability to regulate carbon emissions from power plants. and that's what the clean power plant would do. and that is what the epa should do. >> ann thompson, thank you for joining us here. appreciate it. >> good to see you, hallie. >> you, too. ann was talking about the legal fight, but scott pruitt has been leading the legal fight on this since back in oklahoma. nobody should be surprised this is now happening. >> this is what he was brought in to do. and it's possibly the best
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example of how so many of these cabinet secretaries were brought into really work at cross purposes with the mission of their agencies. yes, as oklahoma ag, he knows how to target this rule with precision strength. and that is what he's doing. overall, some of the experts i talked to say we were on track to basically go further than the benchmarks that obama had set out for clean energy production. this will slow things down because when you look at states like west virginia, texas, they are far behind. and it could have an overall impact, even as many states like california and new york are taking action on their own. >> this is something that plays well to the base. it was part of the reason why prui t pruitt was brought in. >> and different parts of the base. >> yes. the key points you pointed to virginia, pennsylvania, where coal is a major industry, this will play well with voters.
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and additionally, there's a lot of money in the fossil fuel industry. some of the folks pushing this and supported pruitt for a long time, they are cheering now. >> it was really interesting now, uh starting to see some republicans who represent these states like florida e, like carlos cobello, speak out and say this is not fiscally responsible and not environmentally responsibility. because you do this against a position of horrendous hurricanes, which we know are, in part, fed by climate change in terms of their intensity. >> that said, the white house reports this as promise made, promise kept. and frankly, it is. "the new york times" compiled a list of 52 environmental rules that have been e lame nighted e eliminated or on the way to being revoked by the epa. the president is tweeting about this today. instead, he's talking, you know, little bob corker and his iq tests. >> yeah, and this gets to the disconnect that we see between the sort of big ticket
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legislative items that he's pushing and the message coming from the white house. and the types of progress in the eyes of the trump administration that can be made in the agencies without any legislative action. they are actually doing a lot of things in these agencies. and it doesn't require congress. and it doesn't require the alliances that trump is repe repeatedly jeopardizing with his tweets. >> when i have white house conversations with the west wing, they push back about the latest tweet and say, look at all the regulations we're rolling back and what we are doing from the concrete perspective. they talk about that, but the president talks about that far less. >> well, message discipline. that was, in part, what made trump so successful during the campaign, was the repetition of america, make america great again. and yet, as president, he seems to completely veer off track when he's trying to push whether it be taxes or obamacare repeal with these diversionary debates over culture wars or the nfl or charlottesville. >> heidi, ken, such a pleasure
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we are back now with our series "one nation overdosed." as melania trump heads to west virginia this morning to visit the first nonprofit drug recovery center for infants. you can see her getting ready to head out there. kate snow just returned from one epicenter in the opioid crisis. montgomery, ohio. she talked to one teenager who gave kate a stunningly candid interview. you look at the number of deaths from the accidental overdoses in montgomery, they have hit epidemic proportions. >> they have. around dayton in that county, they have lost more than 500 people this year to opioid overdoses. that's a staggering figure.
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and what the fire medics told me is when they go out on the overdose calls, often they see children in the home. people on the front lines call them a generation at risk. there's a lot of concern about what they have seen, what children have experienced and we spent time with that young woman in dayton who knows it all too well. >> hi, baby girl. >> reporter: tori brinkman has always been a survivor, born 15 weeks early, a tiny pound and a half. and that was just the beginning of her struggle. for the first ten years of her life, she lived with a mother addicted to heroin. their history together shows how savage the group of addiction can be. today, tori is a remarkably composed 14-year-old telling her story her way. what do you remember about those early years and your mom? >> she never ate. she would have maybe a coke a day, no water. and then go right back to bed. and she would never take care of me, never feed me. i had to feed myself. i considered myself a parent and my mom the kid.
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>> do you think your mom sold drugs? >> yeah, i know she did. >> reporter: did she get in trouble for that? >> yeah, one time, i think i was around 7 or 8. she made me do a drug deal for her. >> reporter: a drug deal? like what did she8, she actuall drug deal for her. >> reporter: a drug deal? like what did she ask you to do? >> she puts some -- either heroin or cocaine in a napkin or something and she said run up to that house, get the money, and give this to him. >> reporter: tori said she never got health care growing up. >> none until i was 10. never went to the dentist. i had never been in the dentist before. >> reporter: what about pediatrician doctor? >> nope. nothing. >> reporter: her mom told her not to tell anyone about the things she saw in their home. but she would call their grandparents when they would run out of food. >> when she came to live with us permanently, she was blaming herself. maybe if i was better, mom wouldn't have done the drugs.
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>> reporter: and it wasn't just tori's mom doing drugs. it was her uncle. what happened to your uncle? >> he passed away november 20th, 2015, from a drug overdose. >> reporter: heroin? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: that must have been super hard for you. >> yeah, because -- i mean, he basically took care of me instead of my mom. if my mom was asleep, he'd take care of me. and so it was just -- it was sad. >> reporter: you want a kleenex? i have one. >> i've got one over here. >> reporter: okay. this is really hard stuff to talk about. at 14 years old, tori has seen enough pain for a lifetime making her spirit and attitude today all the more impressive. here's a big question. >> okay. >> reporter: why are you talking to us? >> because i want to spread awareness of how drugs have not
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only affected my life but have probably affected a lot of other kids' lives. and i want to just, like, help people. >> reporter: it's important to point out that tori's mother knows she's sharing this story. she's been sober now for three years. she's working two jobs. tori tells us she's proud of her mom and the two of them see each other very often. the whole family watched our piece last night when it aired on "nightly news" and they said they're so proud of her. >> i know. i can't watch the hug because it makes me cry again. we talked about it yesterday before the story aired. it is unbelievably emotional. she is strong. for kids like, she's still just 14. what is there? what support is there for kids like her? >> reporter: she's got a lot of, first of all, family support. her grandparents making the puzzle with her there are great people. they're raising her. she's going to school. she's on the volleyball team and everything. she has a lot of outside support. there's a group in dayton i'd love to give a shoutout to.
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they're called families of addicts. foa. and they're not just in dayton. they're in five counties across ohio. they help people like tori. they help kids. they help parents who are dealing with kids with addiction issues. she does have to go to therapy. she does have lasting psychological and emotional effects of what happened to her as you might imagine. >> yeah. kate, i cannot tell you how much i appreciate you coming on and doing this series with us here. i know you'll have more on what teachers are seeing in just about an hour or so on "andrea mitchell reports." kate snow, thank you. up next on this program, we're headed to puerto rico where billionaires could change how the island gets its power. that's next.
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have you heard about this? big-time billionaires announcing they're working together to get the lights back on in puerto rico. an island of americans living almost completely without power. for three weeks now. well, help is on the way now from somewhere you would not necessarily expect. gabe gutierrez is in san juan with that story. >> reporter: hallie, good morning. it is still a dire situation in many parts of puerto rico. while the situation is improving in some parts of san juan, throughout much of the island telecommunications systems are down. only about 15% of puerto rico has electricity. and behind me is the sight we're seeing throughout the island. power poles are still down. the governor saying that the
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recovery effort is far from over. now some big names from the tech world are stepping in. tesla founder elon musk saying he wants to use solar technology to help rebuild the power grid here. facebook also sending a connectivity team to the island and also working with the red cross to have to create population maps. using a high altitude balloon for service. but the big problem for now is the power grid. many are trying to communicate with others on the island as well as relatives on the u.s. mainland. the governor is asking for an additional $4 billion from congressional leaders to help with the recovery effort. but there are still many people in need here. and there are concerns that all the aid that is flowing into the island is being distributed quickly enough. the governor ordering an investigation of several municipalities to make sure the
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supplies are being distributed as quick laly as possible. >> gabe gutierrez there in puerto row koe. for today's big picture, we want to come out here to california. the wildfires we've been talking about are a big deal and big news. you're looking at a torched car right now. look at this. it's at a retirement community in sonoma, the heart of wine country. it's inside the trailer park. almost all of it turned to ashes like that. the fire was so intense, people said it burned through metal and glass, trailers, even advertised as fire proof. the name of the retirement park, journey's end. the photographer for the sacramento bee via the associated press. as always, would love to hear your thoughts on facebook, twitter, snapchat as well as instagram. bill on there after heading to the white house. for more coverage all day long here on nbc. right now more on msnbc with stephanie rhule. >> hey, hallie.
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thanks so much. good morning, everyone. i'm stephanie rhule. ali velshi is out today. it is tuesday, october 10th. let's get started. >> this is my neighborhood. in flames. >> it's pretty awful. we're all healthy and safe. and we have to try to be grateful for that. it's pretty awful. >> it's horrible. i couldn't stay because i couldn't breathe. >> i was very worried. my neighbor's house burned down. >> state of emergency in california this morning. more than a dozen wildfires rage from one edge of the state to the other. >> wildfires are raging through california's wine country. >> at least 1500 homes and businesses have been destroyed. >> and in southern california, thousands of people living near anaheim have had to leave their homes. >> with smoke and flames visible from disneyland. >> the president's bitter feud with bob


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