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challenge in the gubernatorial race. one that is not clear she would be able to beat. if she does win the governorship, it could mean her party will win. stay tuned. that's all for me tuned. we'll be back with more mtp daily. i'm handing it off to you almost right on time. >> always on schedule, always on time. that's katy tur. >> that's my name. we begin our show with two developing stories that are hitting the newsroom right now. they're both on russia. donald trump breaking what had been a three-week twitter silence. we'll show you what he said and how it is not accurate in just a moment. i want to begin with a trump brawl and not with bob corker. the target is bob mueller. apparently panicked about how trump's criminal defense attorneys have an acquiescent
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approach. this is all from a new associated press report and it says these trump backers want the street fighting tweeter to criticize mueller with abandon. in fact they view trump's lawyers as naive to the existential threat facing the president. what is going on? here is the context for this potential dispute breaking into the open right now. the loyalists clearly worried that the investigation could ensnare trump's family or even the president himself. they want to face down that existential threat now. right now. but trump will's lawyers aren't worried about that and the lawyer's theory of the case on the trump side is that the farthest mueller would really go would be to indict some former employers. and this is interesting because their view does overlap with key reports in the new york times. first, that bomb smel dropped on september 18th that mueller already told paul manafort he would be indicted, meaning he is a target of the investigation,
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and then this weekend's reporting in the "times" that mueller is building cases against manafort and flynn. which raises the question, would michael flynn talk if granted immunity? it is not a hypothetical. we actually know he would, if you believe him, because he said he would. in that march 30th statement, flynn's lawyer saying he had a story to tell if granth immunity. otherwise he would plead the fifth. never mind back in the campaign days, you may remember flynn a different idea of what it means to plead the fifth. >> when you are given immunity, that means you've probably committed a crime. >> the fifth amendment is actually the dividing line between strategy of trump's lawyers and these calls for more aggression from trump loyalists. the loyalists worried the stat could get immunity and start talking. the other news here, the republican chair of the house intel committee, you may remember, who recused himself is
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now behind subpoenas to the partners of fusion gps, the research firm behind the famous dossier. and then there's story i told you at the top of the hour about trump and russia. the president in a brand new interview saying that number one, none of this changed the vote with russia which so far is not in dispute, and then two, brand new, donald trump falsely suggesting the interim update last week presented some kind of findings on collusion. quote, they just said there's been no collusion. they just said that yesterday. two days ago. senate. there's been no collusion. he told forbes. that's not what the committee said. the gop chair said they didn't know enough. >> the issue of collusion is still open. that we continue to investigate both intelligence and witnesses, and that we're not in a position where we will come to any type of temporary finding on that
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until we've completed the process. >> those words clearly contradict the president's new claim in this forbes interview which we just got in the newsroom. and before i sat down right here our staff was able to reach out and they said the depiction. facts speak for themselves. i'm joined by two former prosecutors. jill, what does it mean when the president makes this kind of statement in the heat of this investigation? >> it means he's not listening carefully because it was very clear to anyone listening that the senate intelligence committee said, it is still investigating collusion. and we can assume that robert mueller is still investigating collusion. so we're looking at two separate crimes and both could or could not involve the president.
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we won't know that until the investigation is completed and the office has shut down. at that point we may know. >> nick, he has every right to deny anything and make any statements about his own belief, views or opinions. does he have the same right? and is it the same responsibility exercise, to mischaracterize, mislead about what the senate intel committee just said? >> it is typical of what he does and his family does. he has lied so many times about everything. why would we be surprised that he lies about what the senate intelligence committee did. he also mischaracterized what this whole russian collusion is about, trying to say the russians didn't actually impact any votes. the question isn't whether or not the russians got into the voting machines. the question is whether or not the trump campaign colluded.
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>> do you think he's trying to move the goalposts? the question is do you think they teamed up to do anything? maybe it didn't change the votes. that's not the criminal line. >> no. it's not what they're investigating. what they're looking at is whether or not they did this micro targeting of hillary clinton voters to try to suppress the vote and to go after the trump voters to get the vote. and did it in conjunction with the russians. it doesn't have to do with people going into the voting machines. that's not the central focus of the investigation. >> well, i think that's right. and i want to go back to something that you were saying which is about his lying. and i don't know why trump tweets things and says things that aren't true. and i think to the point of what is unfolding right now, the conflict happening between the political strategy and the legal strategy, this is exactly why
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trump just needs to stop talking. and i think that it is very risky for this white house to engage in a fight with mueller and engage in a public fight over what is happening with the investigation for a number of reasons. it can reaffirm the idea that there's an obstruction of justice here. with trump off tweeting and his tweets could be taken as a signal to people to not participate in the investigation. it can actually piss off jurors, the grand jurors who like me are regular people and who think that they're engaged in something that's important and legitimate. and to have the subject of the probe out there disputing it, calling it a fake process. they don't think they're involved in a fake process. the number one rule is you don't piss off the jury. coming back to trump and list previous behavior, it creates more legal headaches. like admissions. like going on an interview and
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trying to dispute what is happening and effectively saying the reason i fired jim comey is because he is looking into russia. i think in this entire arena, it would be well served for trump to stand down and stop commenting on whether it is lying. >> do you think this financial the a.p. is reporting between political loyalists and the lawyers means anything in the long run? >> i think it means something to donald trump. i think it will make him probably go after mueller again at some point. just because that's the way he is. but the bottom line is i agree with maya. this will do nothing but create more problems for him. the prosecutors have the subpoena power, the grand jury, if the trump lawyers don't play ball and don't turn over documents, they're going to be held in contempt. they'll go into court. and under usv nixon he'll have to turn over any documents
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relevant to the conversation. >> take a listen to jeff sessions who also figures in. donald trump according to the reporting, sitting there huddling with loyalists is getting all this input about russia and hitting harder and he then says, blal sessions which is something we've heard. take a listen. >> i am disappointed in the attorney general. he should not have recused himself. >> sessions should have never recused himself. and if he was going to recuse himself, he should have told me before he took the job and i would have picked somebody else. >> very disappointed with the attorney general. we will see what happens. time will tell. time will tell. >> and jill, this comes on a week when we have heard he nbc's reporting, as well as the "washington post" and other outlets, that trump is bumping up against a lot of different concern about how many top people he can even get away with
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firing. the reports being that general kelly just wants him to make it to christmas without removing any other key cabinet officials, which keeps presumably tillerson and sessions safe if he follows the rule. >> i think even if sessions hadn't recused himself, you would have seen a cry for a special prosecutor. you needed an independent person, not the person who is reporting to the president, to investigate when the issues involve presidential culpability. and this issue of whether he should cooperate or not i think has been clearly established by the watergate case. he can stone wall all he wants but eventually the courts will order him to comply. they are going to tell him he has to turn over the documents. so he may as well do it with less hostility than what happened in the watergate case. it would help him more to just give them over. of course, if the tapes, the
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evidence equal the tapes that nixon had to turn over, it will be very damaging to him. whether he cooperates in giving them or he is forced to give them. eventually the evidence will speak for itself and i think we need to let the case go forward west need to let mueller continue his investigation. and i think to something maya said, it is not just the grand jurors who will get pissed off. the voters will. even his base will get tired of listening to him deny things the facts prove are the opposite of what he is saying so it could hurt him electorally as well as the legal consequences. >> sometimes there's so much news we don't get it all in the opening script. the other items according to bloomberg that facebook is reaching out to congress, and that mark zuckerberg is personally directly phoning members of congress.
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because there will be a lot more pressure on whether your campaign which got more votes, as they say, got they will in the wrong places, was hobbled by a social media effort run out of the kremlin that might have significantly impacted things. >> he is getting out front, i think, in anticipation that the congress is going to take some steps to try to ensure this doesn't happen in the future. so in some ways, in a preemptive way. i think it is important for him to have, to apologize for his initial suggesting that facebook had nothing to do with it. i think it is important that they've taken some steps. i think it is important that twitter and google are entering the conversation. i think we are so far from a solution yet. when you look at i, twitter, facebook and google are the three largest media companies we have even though they don't want to describe themselves that way. 67% of americans say that's where they get their news.
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so these industry leaders need to step up and institute some transparency, some accountability. and certainly some of the kinds of controls that we have. >> and there will be hearings. so we'll hear what they say. thank you. building a system to contain his emotional outbursts. and later, the story of republican donors in revolt over congressional failures. we're not just going to talk about it. i'm going to speak to one of those donors in an exclusive on the beat. and later, an organization devoted to the i.q. test is calling trump's bluff. when you have a cold
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how does the president -- >> he wasn't questioning the secretary of state's intelligence. he made a joke.
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maybe you guys should get a sense of humor and try it sometime. but he simply made a joke. >> lol. trump back to the joking defense. forbes had asked him about rex tillerson calling him a moron and trump said he would win an i.q. test. so the reporters raised a kerfuffle. even against henry kissinger. there is a club for people with high i.q.s. mensa. today them they're offering trump, they said american mensa would be happy to hold an i.q. session. trump continuing his debate. some have been calling this as more trump feuding but that may give him too much credit. he didn't start either of these and both involve foreign policy republicans concerned about the risk trump poeses as commander n
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chief. as to that, they worry that trump is a pressure cook better to explode. leaving staff to create a series of, quote, guardrails they use to keep the president from rash additions. guardrails. is that how you say adult daycare in 2017? i'm joined by bob cork he himself and howard dean. haul hallie, walk us through what's happening. >> you've seen it over the last 24, 72 hours. so let me give you an analogy here. what you have is the chief of staff john kelly who has worked the try to streamline and structure the flow of information in the so-called processes. you hear about it a lot in these private conversations. by which the president gets information. he's interacting with people in order to change the way that the president was working from the
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prior chief of staff. reince priebus. that's not new. what seems to be new is that as the president has had these processes stream lined, he is looking for other outlets by which to do what he used to do. get on the phone. he would see people. he would talk with friends from new york, with friends from wherever. because there's been less of that, you're seeing the president work the outlets he has. on twitter, talking about bob corker, talking about rex tillerson in these interviews. and i can tell you from my experience, he is more engaged with reporters to a degree. so for example, when he's leaving to go on the trips on the south lawn, he'll stop and take several questions. he will stop and talk to reporters which is where these comments are coming from that have raised eyebrows. >> is he seeking interaction but with him it's dangerous? >> yes. this is a guy who doesn't really have much sense of self.
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he is a very strange person, i think. and the corker exchange is really incredible. i know bob corker fairly well. and i respect him. i don't always agree with him but i think if all the republicans were like bob corker, we would get something done. so how this got started, i do not know. but it's bizarre. >> you work for bob corker. what was he trying to do here and is it working? >> i think that he is a straightforward guy. he is trying to help the president here. he thinks the president has a decent agenda. he thinks he is right on iran, right north korea within the guardrails of what you might be doing and he thinks the president is right on tax cuts. so i think he wants to help the president move his agenda forward but it is hard to do when the president is on twitter. >> and the president said bob corker caused the iran deal. >> let me just put that one to
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bed. bob cork eer opposed the iran deal. bob corker assured that congress got to see the deal, something president obama didn't want. and it was 15-42 in the senate. >> is trump confused or lying? >> look, just put it point blank. sarah huckabee sanders said it from the podium. it is not true. they ought to issue a correction. >> talking about newt gingrich. >> trump automatically hits back at anybody. it is an instinct. it goes back to his new york days. and it seems to be virtually uncontrollable. >> do the guardrails control it? can they? >> i think what you've seen is even when guardrails try to put it into place, the president feels he is the president. and what is most interesting
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from newt gingrich today, a long time ally of the president's, he said that picking a fight with senator corker is not helpful. newt gingrich is correct. based on conversations i've had late today, folks understand and acknowledge that they need every single republican senator vote they can get on, for example, tax reform which is what the president is traveling to pennsylvania tomorrow to talk about. it is not great for the president to get involved with senator corker. at the same time, there is some blame casting, if you will, that perhaps senator corker, the spectrum has been raised. there is a reason why he's been making little more noise publicly than in the past. >> i'll let you back in on that. it seems like your old boss was really worried about how trump's attitude affects foreign policy, planning, and potential wars the u.s. may get into. >> bob corker loves this
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country. he wants america to be strong in the world. he's felt free to criticize president obama when president obama was wrong and he feels free to criticize this president when this president is wrong. he's really been trying hard since the campaign. bob corker has worked aggressively with the president to try to help him move the nation forward. and the president should respect that. and whether it is rex tillerson or bob sessions. >> you listen to him, he says corker loves his country. i'm sure we all do. the problem is, after acting this way, and trying to do all these things and having the supposed general agreement with trump, it hasn't gotten corker anything because he doesn't respect it. >> well, trump is totally unreliable. there is no word worth anything. look at the daca stuff going back and forth and pelosi, pelosi and schumer thought they
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had an in. his word was no good. corker is a pretty straightforward guy. he was a mayor. he actually got stuff done by working together with all kinds of different people. trump has no record like that whatsoever. >> thank you all, interesting times. republicans in congress just blew through a deadline for children's health care. this is important. the congressman joins me next with the challenge ahead. and political burnout. it's real. trump can cause and it there are solutions. we have an expert on strategy. if you could book a flight, then add a hotel, or car, or activity in one place and save, where would you go? expedia gives you the world in your hand, so you can see more of it.
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republicans just blew through a key deadline that has american children on pace to lose their health care coverage. 9 million children impacted
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since republicans missed the deadline. the actual money starts running out in 51 days. here at "the beat" we are tracking it with this countdown clock and this is not typically a republican issue. orrin hatch created the program with ted kennedy. >> i think children's health is not a republican or a democratic issue. it is an american issue. >> i think it is one of the most important things we can do, to help people who cannot help themselves. we're talking about kids here who cannot help themselves. >> we're talking about kids here. and presidents in both parties have signed bills continuing to help the children over the next 20 years. we began covering this last week when i spoke to a father whose daughter could lose her epilepsy medicine if congress doesn't act. >> it is good health insurance, reliable health insurance, and it is the kind of health insurance i was able to count on when my daughter began to have seizures and was able to focus caring for her and not worrying
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about how to pay the costs. >> democratic congressman joins me on the program. thank you for joining me to discuss something we think is important. what is the hold-up? >> well, first of all, thank you. so little focus is on this issue right now. i think the republicans want it that way. the hold-up is in so-called, the pay for, how will we pay to cover 9 million children in this country. you talked to that parent. parents all over the country are in real worry about what they will do. what they wanted to do in order to pay for the program was to cut medicare. that's where they wanted to get it. and what we call the prevention fund. things that go to immunization and other things that children need as well. and so it was really a cynical move right now. and they knew, of course, for two years that the september
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30th deadline was coming up. but they were so busy trying to repeal obamacare that they just didn't have time to get to it. and now we're just fighting over the kinds of unacceptable pay fors that they want. >> i like to try to be fair to everyone and describe things fairly and people can make up their own minds. honestly, what you're describing, what i've read, is that the current condition of house republicans is to hold this money hostage for children unless other cuts are made to health care. is there any other way to say it? >> no. i think that would be a good way to say it. they are taking 9 million children and saying, well, if we can't get the cuts in medicare, if we can't take money out of this prevention fund, then i'm sorry, the children are going to have to suffer. and then turn around and say it is the democrats that don't want to sit down and negotiate this.
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since 1997, 68% drop in the number of uninsured children in this country. this is such an important, an important -- there are places to get money. if we wanted to get real money to fund these programs like the community health centers, we could look to the pharmaceutical industry. the cost of drugs. there's plenty of money there that quo use to pay for these programs. >> congresswoman, we know congress has blown through the deadline. we are tracking, 51 days, important to a lot of people. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. there's a new report in the "washington post" busting president trump for making, count them, 1300 false claims since the election. how does that avoid burnout?
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president who according to a new report in the "washington post," has made history with 1318 false or misleading claims just since he's taken office. that's five false hoods a day and that's assuming trump is as misleading on the weekends as he is the rest of the week. >> we've signed more bills, and i'm talking about through the legislature, than any president ever. >> they were people protesting very quietly. the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. they had a permit. the other group didn't have a permit. the people of this country want tax cuts. we're the highest taxed nation in the world. those false claims can be enraging and exhausting. especially because as a reality show politician, trump feeds off emotional outrage which raises the burnout question. are you falling into trump's trap by getting mad about trump?
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so far, he seems to be saying to the nation, i'll not a leader. i just troll a lot. and some people are tired of being trolled and want to drop out and turn away from the news or politics. experts say the key to avoiding burnout is approaching trump or all politics in a mindful way. author robert wright offering outrage feeds trump while activism can affect how he got elected. our special guest on game theory and buddhism. and leah wright, thank you, both, robert, what kind of activism do you think both works and avoids this burnout? >> well, i think mindful activism does. first of all, in the expense mindful meditation can help
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prevent burnout. kit make you more emotionally resilient but to leave 30th sells it short. i think being mindful, and to some extent i mean in the everyday english sense of the world. being attendant to relevant factors. being mindful on social media can help you engage in a way that is more constructive from your point of view. and if you are an point of trump's, as i am, it can keep from you being emotionally reactive in a way that feeds his narrative, and i think consolidates his base. >> you use that word and barack obama is known for being very deliberate and thoughtful and mindful. and leah, he has spoken out about when people get frustrated, think back to what so many people have been through and how much more difficult it may have been previously. here he was on the severlma
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university. >> if you think nothing has changed in the last 50 years, ask someone who lived through the selma or chicago or los angeles 1950s. ask the ceo who might have been once been assigned to the secretarial pool if nothing has changed. ask your gay friend if it is easier to be out and about now than it was 30 years ago. >> what do you think the obama approach would be to avoid burnout? >> well, you know, barack obama in the past couple months hasn't been able to help himself and has spoken out a few times, too. i the could think part of what obama is saying, think about what our ancestors have done. think about that resilience. with that said, the circumstances, the moment we're in right now, are in some ways uniquely different which calls for a uniquely different approach. so i think one of the things that we can talk about, we can
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really talk about is how to kind of alleviate or how to deal with this idea of outrage and fatigue. and one of the things we can do, we can talk about pulling back and using social media strategically, especially now that we know russia intervened in facebook and twitter and google to sow dischord. the other thing that is really important, and this goes to robert's point as well, is not allowing the chaos, the craziness of the president he and the president's white house. so the chaos of the white house to really determine your sponsor your reaction. so really figuring out how not to let the white house drive the narrative. i think a lot of that has to do with the outrage and the fatigue
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people are feeling. trump wakes up and determines by the amount of tweets that he puts out. so putting the agency back in the hands of the people. >> so how do you do that? how do you stay authentic but not be ruled by political emotions every day? >> well, i think the first step is to recognize that our outrage serves trump's purposes. i mean, political polarization serves his purposes, to some extent. and i just wrote this piece on what i call mindful resistance and i use this example of a tweet that got 7,000 retweets. it was like, trump is a terrible person stoking the instincts. when we consider the message that we consider them terrible people, that reinforces these snooty elites hold his followers in contempt.
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that's what helped him get elected. when we centralize them that way and say they're all racist or stupid when it is. more complicated than that, we won't think clearly about what exactly got him elected and how we can keep him from getting elected again. as for the question -- the question of how you do it, i think first of all, just being conscious of the problem gets you somewhere. but also daily meditation, i have a practice, makes you more aware of your feelings such as outrage. you're more than likely to observe them welling up and then be more reflective. >> it is fascinating what you say. if the typical liberal thing is not to try to give everyone a judgment and never a second chance, then you're not defined by one mistake or one vote even
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if people strongly disagree. i home you come back. thank you both. we want to ask you, how are you avoiding burn out? and still ahead, revolting against the gop. i'll speak to a mega donor threatening to pull the plug on republican campaign funding. and later, angelina jolie and many others accusing harvey wynn weinstein. a basketball costs $14. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom? what's the value of a walk in the woods? the value of capital is to create, not just wealth, but things that matter.
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republicans facing a revolt from top donors threatening on cut off funding. he says he'll pull his support if republicans don't get their act together. in an explosive bloomberg article about the back lash from
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the gop with no legislative wins despite their majority. reporting that the republicans are blowing a once in a century chance to expand the majority. where will disaffected donors go? most aren't interested in democrats but steve bannon is recruiti recruiting. according to federal records, dan eberhart has donated more than $160,000 to republicans since 2012 and now he says he is sick of republican leaders squandering this moment. welcome. do congressional republicans or senate republicans have to worry about losing your support? and have you met with steve bannon about all this? >> good evening. thank you for having me. i think the answer to the question is yes. the congressional republicans have accomplished quite a bit more. in the senate, things seem to be
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stuck. i don't have the numbers in front of me but i believe it is something like 370 bills have been passed in the house and about 280 are still in the senate. obviously the most notable of those is the obamacare, or some kind of repeal and replace. there are many more bills that have received less he headlines. >> do you think mitch mcconnell is bad at his job? >> i liked his strategy and how it played out with gorsuch. i feel like the dog caught the car and didn't have a plan in terms of repealing and replacing obamacare or fixing obamacare. we've got the senate majority, 52 senators, also potentially the tie breaking vote if we need and it mitch mcconnell doesn't seem to be able to get the caucus to go in the right line. for me i feel like the obamacare repeal and replace has been
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something the republicans have told donors, they've told voters. so many times over the years that they've elevated it to where it is to the brand. i think the failure to get something done in washington now that they have both houses and the executive branch, it is just a travesty. >> you're a business guy. repealing obamacare was core to the republicans' marketing. i don't know if it is core anymore. that they're in charge of the political branches. what about steve bannon? has he approached you for money? >> yes. i met with steve bannon last week and i'll keep a private conversation private but i think he is a brilliant strategist and i think he feels emboldened by what happened in alabama. and i think that quite frankly, i think that mcconnell's star has faded a little bit and bannon's star is rising with
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what has happened. i think the move that the senate leadership fund, and in alabama, it has completely back fired. as opposed to saving one of their own. i think bannon and emboldened a bunch of conservative voters across america that are ready for change. and they're wanting to use the majority instead of just kind of sit there in d.c. and be the majority. they want to use the majority and they want to move forward. >> would you give more money to mcconnell or his picks at this point? >> the way i feel right now, probably not. look, i'm a life-long republican. i want us to win. i think we have the best ideas for america and the best ideas for everyone's future. but i'm extremely frustrated that if they aren't going to use the majority and don't have an actual plan that they can use to pass legislation, then what's the point? >> you know, mr. eberhardt, we talk a lot about the politics there and the gop civil war, and also the folks on the inside doing the meetings and moving
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the money around, which is a part of our politics. very interesting to get some of your perspective. thanks for being on "the beat." >> thank you for having me. ahead, gwyneth paltrow and angelina jolie join this growing list of women accusing harvey weinstein of misconduct. i have a report on that important story, up ahead. if you could book a flight, then add a hotel, or car, or activity in one place and save, where would you go? expedia gives you the world in your hand, so you can see more of it. expedia magic is pretty amazing. it can transform a frog into a prince. and sadness into happily ever after. but it can't transform your business. for that, you need dell technologies.
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hollywood mogul harvey weinstein was fired from his own company sunday after "the new york times" reported extensive allegations of sexual harassment
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facing new allegation and leaks about his conduct today. the very latest comes from two of hollywood's most famous actors, gwyneth paltrow and angelina jolie who both say weinstein abused his power to harass them. they gave their accounts "the new york times" and the accounts come on the same day the new yorker finished a report by ronan pharaoh. with accounts from 13 different women alleging weinstein harassed assaulted them including forcible sexual contact. the article tells how 16 former or current employees observed inappropriate office conduct or sexual harassment. painting a picture of a widespread office culture of coercion, harassment, and intimidation. weinstein's representatives have issued a blanket denial of any nonconsensual sex or acts of retaliation saying any allegations of nonconsensual sex were unegively denied.
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there were never any acts of retaliation against any women. it includes a leaked recording which the "new yorker" magazine says nypd made while investigating claims in 2015 that weinstein groped a young woman he met previously at a social event. >> i'm telling you right now. >> why what do we have to do here? >> nothing. i'm going to take a shower. you sit there and have a drink. >> i don't drink. can i stay on the bar? >> no, you must come here now. no. >> please. >> no, i don't want to. >> i'm not doing anything with you. >> i'm sorry. i cannot. yesterday was kind of aggressive for me. >> i won't do a thing. please. i swear i won't. just sit with me. don't embarrass me in the hotel. i'm here all the time. >> i know, but i don't want to. >> please sit down. please. one minute, i ask you. go to the bathroom. >> please, i don't want to do something. i don't want. to. >> come here. listen to me. >> i want to go downstairs. >> i won't do anything. you're not going to see me after
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this. if you embarrass me in this hotel. >> i'm not embarrassing you. i don't feel comfortable. >> don't have a fight with me. please. i'm not going to do anything. i swear on my children. please. i'm a famous guy. >> i'm feeling very uncomfortable right now. >> please come in now. and in one minute, if you want to leave with the guy. >> coming yesterday you touch mid breast. >> please, come on. i'm used to that. >> you're used to that? >> come in. >> no, but i'm not used to that. >> i won't do it again. come on. sit here. sit here for a minute, please. >> no, i don't want to. >> never call me again. okay? i'm sorry. i promise you i won't do anything. >> i know. but yesterday was too much for me. >> i will never do anything thing to you. five minutes. don't ruin your friendship with me for five minutes. >> i know, but it's kind of like it's too much for me. i can't. >> please. you're making a big scene here. please. >> but i want to leave.
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>> bye. thank you. >> prosecutors say they investigated that case thoroughly. they say they did not have sufficient evidence to charge. many of the accounts emphasize that weinstein was a powerful and connected businessman, and he aggressively used that power allegedly to intimidate these victims and accusers. his company racking up over 300 oscar nominations working with the biggest stars, and he donated to democratic party leaders. today hillary clinton said she is shocked and appalled in response. mira sorvino won an oscar for her performance in the weinstein movie "mighty aphrodite." in today's new yorker account she said weinstein harassed her and she believes he retaliated against her because she resisted him. >> it's a travesty that this sort of behavior is normalized and accepted for decades in this industry. and i am very pleased that this
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is all coming to light, you know. these are very bad things that he did. you know, he has a lot of strengths. a lot of people admire him, including myself for many of his talents. but thank you is not the way that men can act towards women anymore in this country. it is just not. and so the more all these cases come to light and the more people have the courage to speak out, the more that young women will be protected and maybe we'll move into a future where my daughter is not going to have to worried about being harassed on the job. >> sorvino is one of more than now 20 accusers speaking out to achieve the change she outlines there. that is our report on this. but i can tell you just moments ago here during our broadcast, the obamas also released a statement. and we will add to it our coverage. they say, quote, michelle and have i been disgusted by the recent reports about harvey weinstein. any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be held accountable regardless of wealth or status. the obamas continue in their statement, we should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories.
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we all need to build a culture, including by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can make such behavior less prevalent in the future, end quote that is our broadcast for tonight. "hardball with chris mathews" is up next. wild days at the white house. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. president trump continued lashing out at senator bob corker and his secretary of state rex tillerson today, leading to further questions about the president's erratic behavior. senator corker told "the new york times" this weekend that the president's behavior concerns him. let's listen. >> sometimes i feel like he is on a reality show of some kind, you know, when he is talking about these big foreign policy issues. >> yeah

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