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race cars. just me. that wraps things up for me this hour. chris jansing picks things up right now from new york. hi, there, chris. >> high there, katy. i am chris jansing in for ali velshi. president trump this hour on the attack. just he was hosting the canadian prime minister and his wife, and as getting ready now to head to pennsylvania to sell his tax reform plan, he's fuming about our new nbc news exclusive report about a key national security meeting, respording first with multiple tweets from our story. the quo -- president donald trump said he wanted what amounted to a nearly tenfold increase in the u.s. nuclear arsenal during a gathering this past summer of the nation's highest ranking national security leaders. i cording to three officials in the room. then a last hour what the president had to say -- >> when they make up stories like that, that's just made up, and the generals will tell you
that, and then they have their sources that don't exist, in my opinion, they don't exist, they make up the sources. there are no sources. >> joining me now is peter alexander at the white house. courtney kubey, our national secury reporter who helped break that exclusive story. courtney, start with you. you heard pwhat the president hd to say. your response? >> we don't make up sources. it's very well sourced and took quite a number of days to put it together. there were a group of us working from a lot of different angles. it's unfortunate that the president felt the need to trash our reporting, and our sourcing, but we stand behind it. >> so give us the heart of what happened inside that meeting as you know it. >> reporter: it was a two-hour-long briefing. they went around the world. they looked at u.s. force posture all over the world, and part of that included a briefing slide that looked at the u.s. nuclear arsenal.
posture of the u.s. nuclear force, and of course, the beginning of the nuclear force it was a smaller number and then of nuclear warheads the u.s. had and then parked during the cold war. and then started to decrease in the late 1960s, early 1970s as the u.s. became a signatory to various treaties, nuclear non-proliferation began, and we were told by numerous officials by several officials, that president trump looked at the slide and said, well, why don't i have more nukes? of course, he was -- the defense officials, the officials in the room, explained to him why. why the number is where it is, and that was, it's because of non-proliferation treaties the u.s. is signatory to and reasons like the budget. budget constraints, and they talked about the nuclear posture which is ongoing. every four years congressionally mandated review, and this year everyone expects that it will determine that the nuclear force needs some modernization.
something that's been on the u.s. military's to-do list for some time now. >> peter, the president has been all over the place on nuclear weapons, to be blunt. listen to some of what he said in the past. >> nuclears should be off the table. but will there be a time when it could be used, possibly. >> north korea has nukes. japan has a problem with that. a big problem with that. maybe they would, in fact, be better off if they defends themselves from north korea. >> with nukes? >> would be better off -- including with nukes, yes. >> i don't want to rule out anything. >> we are not keeping up with other countries. i would like everybody to end it, just get rid of it, but certainly not do first strike. >> peter, what are you hearing froms white house today? >> heard from the president speaking on his own behalf of course lashing out as nbc saying he never discussed an increase in america's nuclear arsenal and among other things i want them in perfect condition and perfect shape. the arsenal is more than
sufficient. knows it's awesome, massive, in his words and attacking nbc, it's disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write. people should look into it. we have. it's called the first amendment and three sources inside that room who speak to exactly what the president is now denying. the president did say there would be a statement from his defense secretary james mattis and moments ago received that statement. let me read it to you, chris. it says -- recent reports that the president called for an increase in the u.s. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. this kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible. carefully worded we never said that the president called for an increase or that he told anyone to do so. the story says no changes resulted at all from the president's desire in the course of that meeting. important clarification given criticism right now from the administration, chris. >> courtney, from those you've talked to, how much does the president know and understand
about nuclear weapons, about nonproliferation, about the u.s. position, about the history of it. i mean, seems to me from reporting that we have seen, frankly, over the course of many months, this does fit in to a pattern of concern about the president, does he understand the way these things work? what are you hearing? >> reporter: you have to take a step back here and realize that donald trump was a businessman for his whole career, and so it's not terribly surprising he would come into office, would be elected, and wouldn't know the history of the stark treaty, caps a number of nuclear weapons the u.s. can have, or might not understand why it is that the u.s. began decreasing their arsenal or holds the number of nuclear warheads, may not understand the difference between or balance between conventional and nuclear weapons. that seems logical. the way it is explained to me, in this meeting he was asking a lot of different questions, and
that every issue that came up, he asked these very spicecific questions, why don't we have this and so many here? somebody says the questions were provocative, trying to provoke the individuals, the leaders in the room, to think outside the box and question their policies. that was similar to the case in the case of the nuclear arsenal. but that he specifically said that he wants more. now, no one took that as an order. as peter said, you know, secretary mattis said that he says that nbc reported that, that the president called for more. that's not the case at all. if the president had called for more nuclear weapons, nuclear warheads, in a meeting with his military leadership, something would have happened. as we clearly stated in our report and have been talking about it all day today, nothing happened out of this. there was no -- no additional review. there has been no change to the nuclear force based on this meeting, but it doesn't change
the fact that the president did express his desire for more nukes, and the military leaders in the room explained to him why that's not necessarily feasible right now. >> peter, in the middle of all this new information and a fast-moving white house, we often see, about who the president might nominate as homeland security secretary tomorrow. give us's update. >> nbc news confirms that the president is expected to nominate for the department of homeland security secretary, the former homeland xresecretary jo kelly's former chief of staff. top ahead, kirsten nielsen. to be clear, we haven't nailed down the timing of the nomination and can't say it will be announced as early as tomorrow, though it is expected to be announced soon. significant for a variety of reasons. for one, it's john kelly. i think demonstrating the influence he has here. nielsen has been very close to him. served with him formerly at dhs and again serves with him right now.
currently holding that post, a woman by the name of elaine duke. she you see marine one crossing overhead as the president prepares to head to harrisburg in a short time from now. elaine duke overseeing homeland security after the wake of the hurricanes from texas to florida, to puerto rico. >> peter alexander and courtney kubey, thank you both. appreciate that. put this in perspective. i want to walk you through what was going on around the president during that time. go to july 19th. the day before that meeting on the nuclear arsenal. the president had a meeting on afghanistan. that was when he called for the referring nation of the commander of u.s. forces there, and compared war strategy to a new york restaurant renovation. it was also the day he berated attorney general sessions to the "new york times" for recusing himself over the russia probe. july 20th, the day of that nuclear arsenal meeting marked six months in office for the president, who at that point still hadn't passed any
meaningful legislation. it was also the same day nbc news has reported that secretary of state tillerson called the president a moron. the next day, a friday, sean spicer resigns, and news began the short and tumultuous run of communications director anthony scaramucci. just four days later, the 25th, scaramucci pictured in the oval office with then chief of staff reince priebus. the two reportedly at odds and this picture captures it pretty perfectly. the morning of the 26th, a busy one. the president reinstated the transgender military ban that came hours after the fbi raided the home of trump's one-time campaign manager paul manafort as part of the russia probe. july 27, the russia sanctions bill arrives on the president's desk. he opposed it at first but eventually signed it since it passed overwhelmingly and was veto-proof. the last friday of july the president traveled to new york to make a speech to police and
controversially encouraged them to be rough on suspects. on the way back to washington he announced reince priebus was out and john kelly his new chief of staff. kelly, of course, would soon show scaramucci the door. for more on all of this i'm joined by ned krux, former special assistant to president obama, his one-time national security council spokesperson and glenn thrush from the "new york times" with us as well. both are msnbc contributors. this, glenn is not the first time this network or your newspaper or any number of other news organizations have reported that the president has said things that stunned part of the national security team. right? >> yeah, that is absolutely true. i think it is just interesting that all of these denials take place and it gets baked into the narrative, because they turn out to be true. it is clear and we heard sarah huckabee sanders refute this from the podium and other people deny that tillerson made the
moron comment. there is very little i should say when communicating with folks in the white house, very little pushback on the fact this actually occurred. so while the president is going after you, the people who work for him are quietly accepting, this is the narrative, because they know it happens to be true. >> so i guess, you know, this is coming at a time when some pretty serious things involving nuclear weapons are on the table. there's the concern about north korea. there's concerns about the iran deal. so help us put this in context of where we are, or should we look at this as, look, this is a point in time when this was new president, somebody who came out of the business world, and frankly, the fact he didn't know about any of these treaties maybe isn't as bad as it seems? >> chris, i think the underlying theme through the stories we've heard over the last few days and even the last few weeks is the fact that this administration's top national security officials, the men and women who should be
preoccupied with ensuring the safety of americans the world over are preoccupied with keeping the president from acting on his worst impulses. that is not good for the country. it's certainly not good for security. and, frankly, they have had a mixed record here when it comes to north korea, both secretary tillerson and secretary mattis have tried to put an end to the personal invective we've heard from president trump against kim jong-un, when it comes to the iran deal, we know from reporting that sex tillerson, secretary mattis, chairman of the join chiefs dunford and hrchlts r. mcmaster are opposed to the president's plan to at least partially walk back from the iran deal, and then, of course, you brought up the transgender ban in your opening. we know from reporting and even from their own public statements that key military officers are opposed to that. not able to prevent the president from impulsively
tweeting shortly after that national security briefing at the pentagon. >> and then a tough response now, it's interesting, from iran. i'll get both of your responses and glenn start with you. a photo released from the office of the iranian presidency and rouhani said if the u.s. backs out of the nuclear deal, not our failure at all but a failure for the other side. how is not just the wider foreign policy sort of establishment looking at this, but our allies? >> look, i mean it is another instance in which we have allowed, at least from an optical perspective, a country that is clearly a state sponsor of terrorism that tried to develop a nude color program, done all sorts of destabilizing mischief in the region to take the moral high ground, which is, you know, an extraordinary break from foreign policy. from foreign policy of the last three or four presidents. look, the other thing that's
extraordinary about these leaks, and this is something we don't tend to talk about on the news gathering end of this. it just goes to show you the level of alarm or disrespect that career staffers in these institutions have for the president. you never heard of these kind of leaks. multiple leaks from national security meetings and foreign policy conclaves coming out while a president is still in office. this is the kind of material that you would hear four, five years after the fact. you never saw these kind of leaks in the obama administration and seldom in the bush administration. part of this is and gets to the point you made earlier about their being widespread disagreement with the president's decisions on this stuff, there is a reaction by his own institutions against him that's very dangerous. >> there is a reactive nature to this, obviously, ned. including what seems like a threat to pull the license of
nbc, because he doesn't like the reporting. immediately you had somebody from the fcc who tweeted out, it doesn't work that way. right? >> correct. >> so i wonder, you know -- curious what you think about what glenn certainly had to say and i was tempting in an offhand manner to say much to our frustration we could never get inside those rooms, certainly in the time i worked in the obama white house, but just in terms of what it says about what's going on internally as somebody who has been on the inside, what does it say to you? >> chris, i think the axiom leadership flows from the top holds true here. we have a chaos president and stands to reason we have a chaos presidency and chaos administration and i think you see that playing out in part because the cupboards are bare in places like the department of state, department of defense and other parts of our national security establishment, but also because this is a president who has very deliberately tried to
dismantle not only the administrationive state in the words of former senior adviser steve bannon but in ways also our foreign policy apparatus, our national security establishments, and so i think that you see the upheaval in the form of leaks that were responded to because this president according to many in our national security establishment is actually endangering the american people. what he is doing, vis-a-vis north korea, taunting kim jong-un very personally. what he plans to do, it seems, with regard to the iran deal. walking away from the deal that verifiably prevent tehran from acquiring a nuclear weapon and the list goes on. all of these things are so objectionable to career, professional, national security experts, because in their estimation, they do nothing to advance the security of the united states and neglect actually degrade our security in many ways. >> nick price, glenn thrush, gentlemen, great to talk to you both. meantime, an official at the
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breaking news from dave sherman and "vanity fair" on the palace intrigue as the white house even more with "vanity fair" reporting the president's former chief strategist and breitbart executive charmin steve bannon told "people" he thinks trump has only a 30% chance of serving a full term. here's the title of that piece -- "i hate everyone in the white house. trump seethes as advisors fear the president sun raveling." for more joined by the "vanity fair" correspondent, nbc contributor that twleet story. just handed this, i haven't read it. give us the headlines here. >> well, thank you. yeah, really this is a window into a white house that seems to be coming apart at the seams, and as glenn thrush and others just discussed, at the speed and scale of these leaks coming out of the white house are really
remarkable and i think reflective of the president's staff losing confidence in his state of mind, and as i reported, steve bannon has told associates given the course of events the way things are going, he believes trump only has a 30% chance of making it to the 20920 electi20920 -- 2020 election. also reported as events don't go his way he continues to darken and recounted to people trump vented that, he said, i hate everyone in the white house. really just lashing out at his staff. because this is, i think, a snapshot where things are now and unfortunately for the country they don't seem to be in a good place. >> a couple of things i want to ask about, gabe. first is the conversations that we all had at the time that steve bannon left the white house, and the question at the time was, is he going to be more dangerous inside the white house or outside the white house?
it was, i don't know if we call it -- serious consequences could result from this, but what does this say about steve bannon on the outside and his relationship with the president? >> well, i think, you know, one of the things recorded in the pieces, you look at the clash that steve bannon and president trump had over the alabama republican primary. donald trump sided with son-in-law jared kushner and decided to back luther strange against the populist nationalist moore putting him on the opposite side of steve bannon. i think this is really a clash of agendas, and if you talk to people around the white house, they see a president who is sort of flailing around. he doesn't really understand who his base is, attack to the right, plead the breitbart base or had done weeks back, cut a deal with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, and as we all have seen in the last week, lashing
out at mitch mcconnell and bob corker. i mean, this is a president who seems to be at war with almost everybody in washington, and that's a pretty lonely place to be. >> who is around him? obviously, when he first got elected people says, ivanka and jared will be a calming factor. they will be a moderating factor. we saw where that has been. heard a lot in recent weeks about the concerns even people deeply concerned saying, well, he is surrounded by generals. surrounded by people who can kind of rein in him. is the concern that this is at another level now? the people, his chief of staff, his family, who -- again, his critics have said have sort of kept him on this side of chaos, aren't able to do it anymore or won't be able to do it anymore very soon? >> yes. i think that's right. i think what i'm hearing from all sources i spoke to for this piece is that we really are in a different place, and the concern inside the white house, again, with the president's state of mind. i think all eyes are in
washington firmly on general kelly, the chief of staff. there is a lot of speculation about how unhappy he is in the job and the difficulty in keeping this president on track, and there's a lot of fear about what would happen to the administration if general kelly decided to step aside. we saw president trump last night lash out on twitter to unnamed reports about general kelly being fired and him voicing his support for kelly. so as much as they are feuding and trump has been clashing with kelly he knows the optics would look so bad at this point if general kelly, who is really doing the country a duty by serving in this role decided he couldn't handle it and stepped aside. >> people were read more in "vanity fair." gabe sherman, thank you. good talking to you. up next, live to california's wine country where wildfires have taken 21 lives. hundreds of people are missing.
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there. looks like a refrigerator, household appliances and part of a bedroom there. this is one house. a neighborhood in the napa valley as we continue to walk along here, you notice what a common sight that is. right next door. look at this. another house burned to the ground. you can see what looks to be a washer or dryer, a sink in there. maybe the remnants of a car. it is hard to tell with so much destruction. then up above, the rooms of yet another house. this is a crisis on the ground for folks here, because there are mandatory evacuations in places just like this neighborhood. 20,000 people under those mandatory evacuations and some folks waiting at checkpoints and road blocks have no idea this is what they'll show up to in the next few days. they're not allowed to the let in here, because we're still under red flag warnings. there is still a threat of even more fire from sweeping in to a place like this. this is still a dangerous area, still considered a fire zone.
so police keeping those people out. we spoke to some of those people at checkpoints who had to grab whatever they could and hop in their cars and get out of there. so we spoke to one woman who had to do just that and talked about what she was able to do right before she had to leave. listen to this. >> you always get the things, the important papers. you get all the things on the list, medications, all of those things you think you're going to need, and then after you leave you think, oh, man. why didn't i grab that? why didn't i get this box of pictures, this or that? you think of things later, but, you know, life is the most important part. >> reporter: i want to walk a little more for you, too. back in the neighborhood here. one of the other things you might notice, it's not just the fire that swept through here. it's the wind. there were winds up to 50 miles an hour in neighborhoods just like this and you can see what it did. look at this tree. these things are almost in stasis, frozen, because the wind was so sweeping over here with the fire on top of it, sweeping through these neighborhoods. causing widespread devastation.
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[sfx: mnemonic] there you see the president marine one landing at joint base andrews. going to be getting on airs one heading to harrisburg, pennsylvania, after a very eventful day including hosting justin trudeau and his wife. he is heading to harrisburg, pennsylvania for a speech focusing on manufacturing, specifically the truck industry. this is all about tax reform, among the things the white house says we'll hear from the president, nothing gets done in america without the hard-working men and women of the trucking industry.
and when trucks are moving, america is growing. so we're going to keep our eye on joint base andrews and the president of the united states, as he makes a trip to pennsylvania. in the meanmeantime, hollyw is doing soul searching. an sdlats done so much good in bringing injustice and in"quality to light also has powerful people who maybe knew what was happening and did nothing. i'm joined by a man who started one of those ground-breaking shows "the mary tyler moore show." seven emmy awards more than any other man, ed asner, changing the culture of working women in the workplace. ed asner, great to have you here. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. and not even a kiss? >> no. nothing. >> oh, my -- >> this is a world that -- you talked about almost 50 years ago. i was a teenager. i watched the "mary tyler moore
show" was among that generation of women who was inspired by the show that you did. and you also have a long history of speaking out about equality and social justice. you did not work with harvey weinstein but what do you make what's coming out of hollywood over the last two or three days? >> it's apparently a follow-up to what our president established on his campaigning and groping. so if the president does it i imagine other people in power think that they're free to do it, too. i'm not saying they should. and they should be punished, and lose whatever they hope to gain, if not more. so -- i'm waiting to see how the president gets punished for his groping. >> well, this is something he talked about now in that infamous tape. we don't know exactly what happened. we know what he said he did.
>> yeah. >> you know, here you are all of these years later, as i said, decades later. we'll still dealing with the issues that were brought to light, frankly, on the "mary tyler moore show." is it surprising to you that it's happening, and what can be done tab? about it? >> well, i think the offenders have to be punished. and i'm sure i've been guilty at times of -- using my overpowering masculinity to beg for kisses i did when i opened with the conversation with you, but i no better than to push it, and harvey weinstein, i guess, didn't know where to stop. >> there's a lot of that droll humor. called "the grouchy historian" but goes on in the subtitle, an old-time lefty defends our constitution against right-wing
hypocrites and nut jobs. why did you feel you needed to write this book? what is it about the constitution you think needs defending, particularly now in 2017? >> well, first of all, to be sure and let the right wing know they didn't own the constitution, that we have a right to it. that it's our constitution as well as theirs and that we will be glad to step forward and serve as interpreters of the constitution from our point of view rather than theirs. >> one of the things that interested me about this book, and there's a lot of very interesting things, but it is in many ways kind of a reminder for those of us who haven't been in school in many years, about the constitution, about how it was written, about what the founders actually thought about at the time what they actually said at the time, which can sometimes be misrepresented. as you were looking to write this book, were there things that surprise d you? >> center. the fact none of the framers
belonged to an organized religion. they were all deist its. but that's where it stopped. that they quite often did not agree with each other, even though they were grouped en masse. that -- the second amendment, of course, creates a lot of controversy with its misinterpretation by the nra and other people of such ilk. and we need to have a government whereby the second amendment is thoroughly threshed out and defined for us once and for all. >> you talk a lot about the founding fathers but also talk about contemporary people. the supreme court, justice thomas in particular. you talk about ann coulter, ben carson. somebody i was on the campaign trail with several months. >> really? >> what do you want people to take away from this book? >> better knowledge.
laughs. >> it is funny. it is funny. >> encouragement to take the next step in challenging authority where it needs to be challenged. >> the book does that for sure. ed asner. the book is "the grouchy historian." longtime fan. thank you so much for coming on the program. good luck with the book. >> you still owe me a kiss. >> okay. you're going to get yourself in trouble. with good reason, mr. asner. >> no, no, no. i'm not a job procurer. >> hmm. thank you. good to see you. up next, how one principal is coping whey is absolutely a staggering toll. the devastating opioid crisis is having on her school, a school that's lost 12 parents to drug overdoses. first today, international day of the girl. the boy scouts of america announced that the board of directors unanimously agreed to admit girls. this is a historic change for an organization more than 100 years old. starting next year, young girls
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crisis gripping our nation. the epidemic nome impacting parents struggle from their addiction but their children significantly. elementary school teachers finding themselves on the front lines of this fight. nbc's kate snow joins me now with the latest in her series "one nationover dosed" and the one school you profile here, it's heartbreaking and inspiring in the resilience. tell us about that. >> reporter: it is. you'll see that. we went to massachusetts, a beautiful vacation spot on cape code and where opioid addiction is rampant and we saw the effect on children and here row eck efforts on teachers, counselors and administrators. at this elementary school. >> good morning! >> reporter: the lessons for a young generation caught in the grip of america's opioid crisis start at the front door. >> good morning. >> reporter: high fives from police officers, to reinforce even if some kids have seen their parents arrested, the
police aren't the bad guys. justine dale is the hands-on principal. >> glasses you came to school! >> reporter: in this new kind of war zone. what were your first clues that, oh, my that oh, my goodness, we've got a real bad crisis here? >> i think when we started having parent deaths and having to enter our first grade classroom and having to tell a classmate they're parents have died. in the fourth grade alone six parents have died. 12 parents across the whole school. at least 20 children here now live with a grandparent. at least 10 in foster care. the teachers themselves taking them in. >> we are having students coming to school, if they come to school late, they're traumatized what they experienced in that
evening and lash out otpeople. >> or the opposite, they're quiet. >> right, just find a corn anywhere and get into the fetal position. >> and when that happens, what do you do? >> we wrap our arms around them. >> joseia is one of those children. what did you do? >> i used to fight. >> i was not a nice mom. >> what do you mean by that? >> i always yelled at him. everything was his fault. >> when you're so deep in the addiction that you just didn't have time to parent him? >> no, i just didn't want to because i was too busy doing what i had to do. it's a full time job being a drug addict.
>> what made you stop using heroin? >> the last day i used it was when i overdosed in front of my kids. it's the last day i used. >> can you do this, hunter the. >> the falmouth school district is teaching children are joseia how to control their emotions. every day the whole school starts with music. >> i want you to fill your lungs with oxygen. >> there's breathing exercises to stay calm. there's even a special room where kids can blow off steam. this fall the school district started weekly cell conferences with mcclains psychiatric hospital where teachers can ask for help with individual cases. >> their bodies are clearly not comfortable places to be. >> with the help of his teachers, joseia is like a new
kid. >> i am a fish. >> his mom now 20 months sober. >> i am a mom now, and i have lovely children. i don't want to live anymore days with regrets, so i want to enjoy my time with my children. >> you're a good mom now. >> i've been told quite a bit lately that i am. so i guess i really am a good mom. >> okay, oh, my goodness, we can die high fives out the door. as another school day ends, justine worries about what some students will face at home. >> i can manage my school day and keep that a wonderful place for my children and they're happy and safe. but i worry about what happens after 3:30. >> the super intendant of the schools, nancy robins tailor told me they had to change how they teach the students.
some of the 5-year-olds coming in were born with a dependency on drugs because their mothers used heroin while pregnant. the school district is doing all they can, but certainly it's a struggle to meet the budget. >> and i have never heard about this before and i come from a family of teachers, some of the teachers taking in some of the students? >> yeah, because there aren't enough foster homes to go around. so one of the teacher is getting ready to adopt a student. so the teachers going above and beyond to doing everything they can for these kids. >> hut are we seeing for tomorrow. >> dayton's children's hospital in hawaohio, which is children'
hospital, but now every part is being touched by this epidemic to the neonatal intensive care to a clinic where this 2-year-old, he depended on drugs but now he's this thriving 2-year-old. >> thank you, kate. appreciate it. and tune into nbc nightly news tonight for more of kate's reporting on one nation overdosed. we'll be right back. our bond is fraying. how do we get back to "us"? the y fills the gaps. and bridges our divides. donate to your local y today. because where there's a y, there's an us.
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an unexpected twist to a story we've been covering, the violence that broke out in charlottesville, virginia during a white supremacists rally last august. the young black man seen beaten by a group of white man inside a parking garage is now charged with assault. one of those members is a league of the south as a hate group. harris's lawyer says they are cooperateerating with police. and that brings this hour with a close for me. you can always find me on twitter@chris jansing. thank you for watching. deadline, white house with nicolle wallace starts right
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