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gentlemen. thank you so much for watching our show. happy birthday. >> that does it for us. >> chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. have a great weekend. >> pleetz. >> have a great weekend, joe and mika. hello, everyone. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. this morning, president trump takes double barrel aim at obamacare announcing he's scrapping subsidies that help low-income people buy coverage and the double whammy he also signed an order allowing insurance companies to sell cheaper plans across state lines with fewer benefits and consumer protections. >> once and for all, we will have great health care in our country. >> the withdrawal doctrine. president trump is expected to announce he will decertify the iran nuclear deal essentially saying congress, this is your mess now. fix it. >> this is the worst deal. we got nothing. we got nothing. >> and the weinstein scandal escalating. london and new york launch
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investigations and yet another studio chief is suspended hours after he was accused of sexual harassment. we begin with president trump dismantling the legacy of barack obama, one thing after the other. in this the space of the past 24 hours he announced plans that could shrink the aca, obama's biggest domestic accomplishment, and in the next 24 hour, trump's expected to reverse course on the iran deal, one of obama's landmark foreign achievements. i've got a great team with me. nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house for us. kristen, i want to talk health care first. the administration says it had to end these cost-sharing subsidyings pause they say they were illegal. but where does that leave people? moefrsz pointedly low-income americans who were counting on that money. >> reporter: that's the big question, chris. as you point out, the administration says, look, we had to take this move because it is illegal. but health experts warn it could directly impact low-income americans because these are the people who benefit from these
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subsidies. they also warn that's what's going on around the country could destabilize the market, cause premiums to increase. now, this move comes on the heels of that executive order that president trump signed just yesterday here at the white house in that order he allows insurers to sell basically cheaper policies, more bare-bones, skimpier policies, and it also lets small businesses form groups to buy plans across state lines. the trump administration says, look, we're giving consumers more flexibility here, but the pushback is that these skimpier plans will effectively again cause premiums to go up and ultimately cause lower nc americans and those who are not healthy to wind up paying more for their health care. as you can imagine, the reaction has been swift, president trump tweeting about it overnight saying obama is imploding. massive subsidy payments to their insurance companies have stopped. dems should call me to fix. obamacare is a broken mess.
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piece by piece we'll begin the process of giving mesh the great health care it deserves. this is what democrats had to say, chris. it is a spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage levelled at working families and the middle class in every corner of america. president trump has apparently decided to punish the american people for his inability to improve our health care system. now, of course, the president ran on a promise to repeal and replace obamacare. congress tried and couldn't get it done so he's effectively taking matters into his own hands. and it comes as you say i v he's also poised to reverse the iran nuclear deal. this afternoon he's going to announce he'll decertify the deal, which will effectively kick it to congress for a six-month review period. it will then be up to haurm lawmakers to decide whether to slap a new round of sanctions on iran. the president says this is about getting tougher on iran, but critics warn that nuclear deal is the one thing standing in the way of iran advancing its nuclear program.
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>> thank you. let me bring in my panel. shannon pettygeese, matt welch, jason johnson. so, shannon, bloomberg view has an editorial out today saying trump's object sieve to undermine the aca and more broadly the very idea of health insurance. but we just heard what the president had to say, a lot of critics saying this is imploding, it's broken, and once and for all said the president we're going to have great health care spop what's the point of what bloomberg is arguing? >> well, that since day one of this administration the president had systematically tried to destabilize this law. the president says it is imploding. well, he has done everything he could in his power to cause that implosion by creating instability in the insurance market, by creating uncertainty
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which caused some insurers to pull out, which caused a hike in premiums. obamacare was certainly not a perfect system before this. there were problems and people struggling to pay for insurance. but rather than fixing those issues he has only gone out of his way to destabilize it. the plan initially was to replace it with something else, but since they of been unable to do that, the president's continuing on this course with these actions that kristen outlined of trying to weakn this law. and unfortunately that's going to mean higher premiums in 2018 far l for a lot-people. >> trump tweeted this morning, "the democrats obamacare is imploding. massive subsidy paints to their pet insurance companies has stopped. dems should call me to fix." so i guess the question is, is this about massive payments, jason, to insurance companies or is this about low-income americans? >> it's about neither. it's about trump's spite. it's about the inability of the republicans to come up with a plan. look, they have had an
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opportunity to come up with ways to either fix or replace or repeal obamacare and they haven't been able to figure out how to do it. the president doesn't care if poor people get thrown off, if it disrupts insurance markets because this is a political calculation. this is like i can't fix my faucet so i'm not going to pay my w00ter bill. that will convince someone to fix it. it doesn't work that way. unfortunately, he's abdicated any sense for spite. >> what do you think the libertarian view of this is? that's your bailiwick, matt. would you rather see the government get out of paying insurance companies? we of heard the president essentially arguing that this is a better way, we know what people, for example, like rand paul think about obamacare. what say you? >> the subsidy, which is to insurance companies here, was declared illegal by a judge, so if you are interested in executive power overreach, because this is a case where
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president obama tried to act as an appropriator, which presidents cannot do, what the judge found so, the proper response in that case from the trump administration, he could have ended this when he swore the oath of office and should have if rule of law was the primary consideration. but the primary consideration, the through line of all these stories including iran, daca, all of this stuff, is negotiation. you can see it in his tweet. he said time to make a deal here. iran. make a deal with congress. daca is let's make a deal so i can get a border fence. he thinks he'll use these things, which should be principled rule of law arguments as negotiating chips for his so-called great negotiating acumen. >> the other issue, this was an appeal process going on. it had been declared by a lower court to be illegal but the obama administration was appealing it. at this point they could have continued the payments. the problem is for someone who claims he's such a great deal maker and obviously he is not, he thinks this is going to bring democrats to the table. it won't. they're just going to sit back and watch this implode and it
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will be blamed on trump. and when these rates end up hitting christmastime, when people are getting sick, flu season, and people's rates are going through the roof, that is going to hurt republicans in 2018. >> illeana loss lehtinen tweeted this yesterday. cutting health care subsidies will mean more uninsured in my district. promised more access. affordable coverage. this does the opposite. shannon, to that point, what's the political calculus here? >> they absolutely own health care now. the road has run out of blaming obama. now this is their law, they own it, they are the ones who are making these changes to it that they say will stabilize the market, which he felt insurers say it will not. what's the political calculus? in 2018 it will fall on the members of congress, those up for re-election and a number of senators. if there's a bigger strategy here, it could be one of trying
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to overthrow republican leadership in congress. there is this steve bannon camp of the republican party that wants to see mitch mcconnell gone, wants to see paul ryan gone, is hoping to get their own candidates in. and the argument is going to be, hey, this isn't the president, this is congress that has been ineffective at trying to put a new bill. will that mean more democrats take house or they are successful in primary in some of the establishment, we don't know, but that's the famable th gamble they're make here. >> you add to iran and health care the president and his views on the paris climate accord. there's probably a strong analogy between how he's handling iran right now and nafta. you have the tpp. all these things he's either trying to change or blow up. how much of these decisions are about i'm going to go and blow up anything that -- including the legacy, the overall legacy of barack obama?
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>> i don't know how much of a useful frame that is. some of them for sure he's going after big obamacare legacies, but we know about this president and his advisers. a big board in the white house. these were our big campaign promises he we hit every time. doesn't have a lot to the with obama like the wall or getting out of nafta. that's not an obama initiative. the president is keyed in on fix his campaign promises. some of them even extend obama things like obama was out trying to tell nato members they need to pay more and these kind of things, trump is doubling down on that and making it more of a rhetorical thing. i think it's more about fulfilling campaign promises and negotiating and making deals. that's how his brain works. if you think about it only in terms of unraveling obama's legacy i think that sort of takes the ball away from the flaws in obamacare. obamacare right now requires the political system to constantly bail it out and throw fixes to it. it requires the good faith of
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both parties constant any in washington. that's not a very good structural design and i think we need to confront that as we confront -- >> there is a thread through all of this, though, and that is uncertainty. if you're a, you're worried every day if you're going to get tossed out of the country. if you got health care the last couple years you wonder if you can keep it. if you're in the business world, the import/export business, you're wondering about trade deals. all these other country thasz signed on the paris climate accord, i was there for it, you're wondering what is this about the united states and can we count on them when they said that they're in. iran nuclear deal the same way. what's the big picture of all this uncertainty? >> this was steve bannon's dream come true. he wants to bring down the state. he knew donald trump would continue to do this regardless. donald trump simply wants to destroy anything and everything that he did not have a hand in creating. we've got to be honest here. to a certain extent, yes, it's
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not entirely about destroying everything obama did, but it also is, because if you look -- remember, that is president who's still obsessive about the electoral college and how he won and obama going after him. he wants to destroy obama's legacy, because to be honest weather control of every single branch of government the republicans have an opportunity to come up with better plans. they have a better deal they could have proposed for iran. they had better deals they could have had come up with for the affordable care act, but they don't have one. so at this point it's about destruction. they'll try to figure out the rebuilding later and that's not good governance. it destabilizes everything, the economy and our allies. >> he says he feels he doesn't get enough credit for what he thinks he's accomplish sod far as president, jason, matt, good to see you. shannon, good talking to you. after the break, the wines day wednesday -- wines day wednesday scandal escalates. the movie mogul's own brother out with scathing comments, next. n...
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explosive new developments in the harvey weinstein sexual harassment scandal. first, weinstein's own brother white sox co-founded the weinstein company along with his brother back in 2005, released a statement calling harvey a quote very sick man, adding, he has proven himself to be a world-class liar. second, actress rose mcgowan tweeting that amazon studios ignored her claim that weinstein raped her when she was working for them. and another bombshell involving amazon. the company has suspended its entertainment chief, rory price,
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amid sexual harassment allegations. an amazon spokesperson tells cnbc, roy price is on leave of absence effective immediately. we are reviewing our options for the projects we have with the weinstein company. joining me now, msnbc contributor and "vanity fair" special correspondent gabe sherman. first this accusation by rose mcgowan. she sent this directly to jeff bay asbestos of amazon. i told the head of your studio that hw raped me. over and over i said it. he said it hadn't been proven. i said i was the proof. what are you hearing? >> well, you know, i'm hearing that this -- people in hollywood are really worried and talking about it is just the tip of the iceberg and are we going to see, like we saw in the case of amazon, a floodgate of more allegations coming forward from actresses and others who are alleging sexual misconduct by very powerful people in the entertainment industry. >> when we first were -- when this story was first breaking a lot of analysts were saying, you
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know, there are statutes of limitation. >> sure. >> having said that, we're learning police in lon didn't are investigating, police in new york who once investigated an accusation are also looking into it. the nypd. we should point out that weinste weinstein's spokesman has said repeatedly any allegations of nonconsensual sex are unequivocally denied by mr. weinstein. he's further confirmed there were never acts of retaliation against any women for refusing his advances. but where is this investigation heading? >> well, you know, that's a great question. overnight we saw harvey weinstein's brother, bob weinstein, release a statement calling his brother a very sick man. but that sort of denouncing rings hol rebecause we also know there have been allegations that the weinstein company perhaps enabled this behavior and raised a question about who knew at the weinstein company that harvey had this history with women. it's hard to square this denunciation with the idea that perhaps they helped cover this behavior up.
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>> it's hard to square what a lot of people have said whofk around this, including some other powerful people, including actors, that this was an open secret. >> we've seen in the case -- i'd like to draw parallels to the fox nudes example, where currently federal prosecutors in the southern district of new york are investigating fox news about allegations that they also helped cover up roger ailes' history of misconduct. in the case of harvey, if this becomes a criminal matter, i think we will see a sea change in the culture because companies will now be on notice that they cannot sweep this sexual behavior under the rugs, that if they this up, this is a crime, that this is a violation of human rights and i think that harvey weinstein case among others will help really change the culture. >> i wonder if you're hearing -- and again, you're not a lawyer, right, i'm not a lawyer, but could some of these people come together and go after the company? they created at the very least you could argue a hostile work environment. if they knew what was going on, if they were covering it up, if
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they were looking the other way, even more than that, if there are employees of the company, who were honey pots, facilitating that kind of behavior and people felt not just their jobs at weinstein company were threatened but their entire career in the industry were threatened, is there liability that goes beyond harvey weinstein himself? >> clearly that will be something the lawyers will have to look at, but we should point out that "the new york times" had some very strong reporting in recent days that said the board of the weinstein company was awar of sexual harassment allegations against harvey weinstein. so this again, i think, is much bigger than harvey. obviously, he deserves the lion's share of the focus. he is the perpetrator of these alleged behaviors, but we should look at system, because until the system changes people like harvey weinstein, people like roger ailes, people like bill ko cosby could still get away with this type of behavior. >> it goes beyond a fox news and a weinstein company. what is the larger cultural impact? and is the message going to
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be -- now again talking about amazon and of course this was a studio head so i guess we're still talking about some people would argue the casting couch or the culture that is pervasive in hollywood that preys on many of these young women who come to be stars. is there potentially a larger impact? is every smart boardroom -- company, board of directors in america sitting down and saying let's look at what our policies are, how do we have a system in place that women cannot just come, feel not threatened by reporting something but be believed? >> yeah. well, clearly, if they aren't they should be. this really is a watershed moment and we're seeing a lot of people come forward and talk about the idea that the workplace should be a safe place for all employees, men and women. and to i think these case, the snowball effect will hopefully move the culture forward. >> gabe sherman, you've been doing amazing reporting for "vanity fair." thank you. >> thank you. hours from now, president trump expected to announce he'll
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i'm jans january in for stephanie ruhle. time for your "morning primer." everything you need to know to start your day. we begin with news of the american woman who was kidnapped and her family. they left pakistan on a flight bound for britain. caitlan coleman's position was complicated after her husband refused to fly to the united states. president trump will extend protections for young'un documented immigrants beyond the deadline. senator james lankford said he spoke directly with trump and the president is willing to, quote, give ut some more time so congress can find a solution for d.r.e.a.m.ers. jason aldean is back on stage resuming his tour after the deadly mass shooting in las vegas broke out just as he was performing. he took the stage in oklahoma last night and honored the victims of the shooting. the conservative values voters summit is under way in washington. president trump will become the first sitting u.s. president to speak at the event. and the chicago cubs back in
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the national league championship series after knocking off the washington nationals in a wild game five. my sympathies, actually empathy, for my friends in d.c. later today, president trump is expected to wash his hands of the iran nuclear deal, rejecting a vice from many world leaders, top advisers, members of his own cabinet. this 2015 agreement with iran basically says if iran stopped pursuing its nuclear program the u.s. and its allies would roll back economic sanctions. it's been up to the iaea to make sure tehran is holding up its end of the bargain. so far the agency says it has been, that iran stockpiles have remained stagnant, its nuclear research is at a standstill, and yet president trump has repeatedly said the deal is essentially worthless. >> this is the dumbest agreement i've seen. it was a terrible agreement.
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it shouldn't have been siped, shouldn't have been negotiated the way it was. it was one of the worst and one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered into. >> just like that, trump has reluctantly certified the iran deal on two separate occasions but the next deadline for certification is sunday, and this time all indications are trump won't do it. his decision would start a 60-day clock for congress during which it can reimpose the sanctions that were rolled back as part of the original agreement. if they do, that could e smpblly kill the deal. the lack of sanctions is the only reason iran would stick with it. but lawmakers could also hold hearings to examine other options including possible renegotiation. now, many republican leaders and members of trump's own cabinet say the answer is to work with the deal we have, not to walk away. >> i believe at this point in time absent indications to the contrary, it is something the president should consider staying with.
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>> sometimes you live with what you've got, and even if you decertify the deal, i hope that they'll find some way to keep it in place while they try to improve it. >> as flawed as the deal is, i believe we must now enforce the hell out of it. >> iran is not in material breach of the agreement, and i do believe the agreement to date has delayed the development of a nuclear capability by iran. >> so how can president trump break the deal if iran is doing its part? well, there is language in the original agreement that says the president is allowed to break it if he determines it's not in america's national security interest. trump has made his feelings on that pretty clear. >> it's a horrible, horrible embarrassment to our country. we did it out of weakness when actually we had great strength. >> joining me now, msnbc military analyst and former gulf war division commander general barry mccaffrey as well as former white house senior director and senior adviser
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nirea hawk. general, this is something even people who originally said this is a bad deal now are concerned about the decertification. what's your thought on the president's plan? >> well,it's risky business. we don't know how iran will respond. clear hi we shouldn't try and back out of the accord. we'll never reinstitute economic sanctions. it will be a terrible deal with the united states. i think this is an understandable frustration on the part of the administration that iran is up to great evil and mischief throughout the middle east and to include in afghanistan, i might add, where they're pumping in ied technology that's going to kill afghan troops and u.s. soldiers. so i think what's going to happen is congress will attempt to gain leverage over the iranians using this decertification. it's not likely to work, but who knows. >> there was this article in the atlantic a couple days ago
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saying essentially this freeings up the u.s. to confront iran on those other issues, give us us the opportunity to use the threat of force or new sanctions as leverage. you don't buy that? >> well, i think it might well work that way. i think by the way, the next snu to drop is do we now state that the iranian revolutionary guard is a terrorist organization and start the tremendous power of u.s. sanctions and the revolutionary guard and how do they respond. by the way, they are a terrorist organization, not just against sunni mus llims throughout the middle east but also against their own people. so this is a risky course of action we're embarked upon. maybe some good will come of it. >> we hear from some of those members of congress who were originally opposed to this deal, their concerns about what the impact could be. what's the likely options for congress assuming the president does what we have been told he's going to do? >> well, this unfortunately
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opens up a big can of worms for congress when they only have 28 days or so left in the congressional calendar to do anything this year. that includes any fix on health care, daca, immigration, including the defense authorization. and now to throw into the mix an unnecessary discussion of whether or not iran, the iran deal, whether or not iran is complying when by all accounts iran has met the intent and purpose of the deal, which was to open up its nuclear facilities and regularly to check that it was not working on a nuclear weapon. now, this does not mean that the united states has a great relationship with iran or proves everything else that iran is doing. but to open up as we've seen in the white house's background document, what they're sharing in advance of the prempbsz today, to essentially open up the deal as a discussion and airing of the grievances against everything iran is doing is ultimately going to be a distraction domestically and internationally. >> well, the argument from the
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iranian president, rouhani, is something that is not unique to him. they say by doing this, there's no country that's going to want to cut deals with the u.s. because they can't be counted on to keep their word. what are you hearing from our allies as well as our adversaries? >> we already have a credibility challenge internationally after pulling out of the paris climate acco accords, this week pulling out of unesco, which is about world cultural heritage sites, now pulling out of the iran deal, which actually did meet its purpose, which was working with our allies to make sure that iran did not develop a nuclear weapon. by the u.s. not certifying its international security interests, by the u.s. being the one to back out, iran looks like the rational actor in this scenario and iran then has actually more leverage to argue for what is in its national security interest, and we are giving leverage to the more radical elements in iranian society to start leading the way. we are also creating a challenge for u.s. businesses by the lifting of sanctions, the
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companies like boeing and airbus were able to sell nearly 250 airplanes to iranian civilian authorities. that is a significant amount of money and a significant amount of manufacturing jobs here in the united states. almost to the tune of $30 billion. so for a president who has argued to his domestic bass, he's wanting to bring back domestic jobs, particularly the manufacturing sector, his actions on this deal go contrary to what his base should be supporting p. >> what his supporters say in fact what this shows is that he's keeping his word, that he has said from day one when he was running for president, he thought this was a terrible deal, we had to get rid of this deal, that in fact the metsage it sends to particularly our adversaries is not that the u.s. doesn't keep its word, it's that this president does keep his word and he will be a lot tougher than hid predecessor. >> yeah. well, look, first of all, we're not backing out of the iranian accord. he kicked the can down the road to congress who will in my
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judgment highly unlikely to actually back out because it won't be good for united states to unilaterally withdraw a. nobody will stay with us. on the other hand, we had to listen carefully to our partners in the middle east, certainly the israelis whose xisz tenial life is at risk out of the iranian nuclear capability and remind ourselves that the deal we got was what we could get not what we needed. it did not in any way constrain the iranians on their missile delivery systems, and i'm not sure it's actually a verifiable accord anyway. so the iranians are a huge threat to our sunni muslim partners. they are a proliferation threat. and i think the argument against what's happening right now, and i think it's quite true, is president trump does not have much credibility in the international community at all,
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for good reason. >> and additional irony of what we'll lose as the general mentioned, israel. many people were not including israel were not fans of this deal as it was being negotiated but once it was in place it opened the doors far lot of intelligence in addition to the above the board inspections of what's going on in iran. so israeli counterparts have mentioned they actually have via other allies more details about what iran is doing than they did in the past. so it is the irony of this that people who were opposed to the deal prior have seen benefits to an organized, coordinated effort now, and now that is what we are at risk of losing. >> great talking to both of you. thank you. up next, the biggest tech companies in the world embroiled in controversy, facebook and amazon in the headlines, now twitter under fire for deleting information that could be key to investigators looking into russian election meddling. aner, pert on all these companies joins me next.
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joining me now, clinical professor of marketing at new york university's stern school of business, scott galloway, also author of "the four: the hidden dna of amazon, apple, facebook, and google." you add to these various headlines we've seen from here, obviously the new information this morning about amazon and accusations about whether or not a key person in their entertainment, their movie division may have sexually harassed someone. look, i think that a lot of people who don't study this the way you do look at these newer companies, particularly social media companies, places like amazon who think they're not just great places to work in terms of benefits or having a ping-pong table you can play in the midto feel day to let off steam, but a culture that promotes women, promotes minorities, that rejects things like sexual harassment. are we kidding ourself that because they're new they have a
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more modern point of view on these issues? >> it's difficult to generalize about all of them. in the case of uber, you had a lot of people describing the ceo engaging in frat-like behavior. my perception is they're progressive. i don't think it's fair to extrapolate the incident you're referring to at amazon to anything broader about the culture of amazon or the tech companies but even the question in your story is interesting because effectively what you have is the world has turned against big tech. up until a few months ago we gave them the benefit of the doubt on everything. they were leaning in, they were going to put men on mars, cure death, and now we're having these difficult questions and quite frankly not giving them benefit of the doubt, we're going after them. i think people are fed up with big tech. >> i think part of it is the relationship between what happened in the election for people who are not happy about what happened in the election and politico is saying that federal investigators believe twitter was one of russia's most powerful weapons in its efforts
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to help donald trump get a elected. you know twitter well. what do you make of this reporting that the company was deleting potentially key information? was it a positive thing, protecting their users, or was it something that they should have thought twice about? >> so, this is unusual for me to be an apologist for big tech. i'm usually the person saying that they aren't subject to the same scrutiny as other firms. i don't think we know yet, and it does sound like it was standard policy. hag said that, the weaponization of media firms, and let's be clear, they are media firms, is probably the biggest story in tech in the last few years. the notion that a government with a credit card can actually breed chaos in our country and pay in rubles and the firm doesn't acknowledge it or doesn't do anything about it or is taking a series of half measures is the biggest story. also a crisis itself isn't the thing that does the damage. it's your response to the crisis. and facebook is becoming a textbook case on how not to
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handle a crisis. >> talk about sheryl sandberg. she goes to capitol hill and talks to lawmakers this week about concerns of russian interference. she's obviously a very powerful, visible chief operating officer. she told axios she supports the public lease of russian-linked political facebook ads that have been shared with congress. let's listen to what she said. >> we're working on transparency, that we are -- hope to set a new standard for transparency in advertising because we believe everyone should be able to see -- >> if you want to parse words, she could say we're working on transparency, but what do you make of that answer? >> a huge fail. the narrative here is very easy and they're being overconsulted by $850 an hour investor relations and communications consultants. the only answer here is we are a media company, also in that same interview she said we're not a media company. spending a billion dollars on original content. they run add athds against this
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content. you're a media company. facebook has warmly embraced the influence of the media company but seems to be allergic to the responsibilities of a media company. the only response here is we acknowledge this, we take responsibility for it, and we are going to make sure it never happens again, full stop. instead, they ear ma-- they're making the crisis worse with a series of excuses and half measures. >> well, we'll see what happens next to this sotory. it isn't going i way. you made we want to read your book. >> i'm glad. >> paul ryan on his way to puerto rico to assess the devastation. but after president trump's tweets threatening the island, will the speaker get a warm welcome? also thrive california at the end of what has been the deadliest week of wildfires in that state's history. we've also got the harrowing stories of survival, next.
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we of got to do more to help puerto rico rebuild its own economy so that it can be self-sufficient, but at the moment, and that's why i'm going down there tomorrow, at the moment, there's a humanitarian
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crisis that has to be attended to, and this is an area where the federal government has a responsibility and we're acting on it. >> paul ryan responding to the tweet from the president about removing fema and first responders from thetune, tweetie wonderful people of puerto rico, with their unmatched spirit, know how bad things were before the hurricanes. i will always be with them. the speaker now on his way to the house to provide emergency funding for puerto rico. nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez is in san juan with more. and i guess one of the big questions is, there was a lot of push-back in puerto rico. they were not happy with the president's original tweets. what do we expect as a reception for the speaker today? >> reporter: hi, chris, good morning. as you mentioned, paul ryan and the congressional delegation heading here to puerto rico.
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the speaker is expected to taken a aerial tour of the devastation with the governor. and then the news conference will be held later this afternoon at the convention center. as you mentioned here, top of mind here on the island over the tweet by president trump yesterday and also his tweet this morning as we have been reporting, the white house and the acting dhs secretary, she says that, you know, it was supposed to be taken as, yes, fema and first responders can't be here forever. and they shouldn't be here forever. that would be a positive sign showing the recovery was successful for many including san juan's mayor who didn't take it that way. and it's a dire situation in the part of the island, the death toll up to 49 with several dying from bacterial infections following the storm. and aid is not getting to many of these mountainous regions. and it is a slow trickle in many of the areas. so many areas are still devastated. this morning we spoke to several people from san juan's airport,
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and it is very emotional for families leaving this area. we asked one mother saying good-bye to her daughter, sending her to new york to live with other family members, we asked her how hard it was to say good-bye. >> it is very hard. otherwise i would very happy for her, but she's leaving in a place that we're having problems right now. and i want puerto rico to be the same as before so she can live here and study here. she's a great student. i want the best for her. and at this point, i am very doubtful that we're going to be the same. >> reporter: the mess am from that mother and others as the speak speaker, paul ryan, comes here later today. thank you for that.
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the billion that they hope to pass later will also help those with the wildfires raging in california. 400 people are reported missing with 37 dead. steve patterson is in glen a ellen. looking mind you, the situation looks dire. >> reporter: chris, we saw a number of wineries here. this is likes of devastation which this region and neighborhood have ever seen. just take a look at this. this is a whole row of homes now completely decimated. barely any landmarks visible here. you can barely tell what room to room to room this is or when one house ends and another house begins. devastation that swept through here when those high winds began ripping through neighborhoods just like this one. and the thing about glen ellen, it is a small community and everybody knows the situation
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here. this is in every scene in this community, but it is certainly the central one. and we're talking to a volunteer firefighter who lived in this area. her name was kristen johnson. she was working that night, heard about the fires, rushed home, was able to get her family out of there, and then started working. started helping other people with their homes and started hitting the streets and battling back against that wildfire. we spoke to her about what it was like for her to show up here to see her home was lost and then to start working. listen to this. >> i was on an engine driving by, i videotaped my house burning as we drove by to go save someone else's house. it is terrible. this is any house, this is my home, this is my everything. and now i have to figure out where to go from here. but do so a lot of other people, you know? that's why we do what we do. we try to minimize the impact it's going to have on others. >> reporter: heartbreaking situation here in so mona county with the firefighters giving everything to battle back against the fires that continue
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to rage in this region. chris? >> bravery in the face of their own tragedy. thank you for that. we'll take a live look now at the values voters summit in washington, d.c. president trump is expected to speak there in the next hour. we'll have that for you live right here on msnbc. sarah: every year we take a girl's trip. remember nashville? both: kimchi bbq! amazing honky-tonk! i can't believe you got us tickets! i did. i didn't pay for anything. (sigh) you never do. send me what i owe. i've got it. i mean, you did find money to buy those boots. (alert beep) are you serious? is that why you don't like them? those boots could make a unicorn cry. yeah! tears of joy. (groan) pay back a friend day is october 17th. get the bank of america mobile banking app today.
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for the first time we're hearing the same sound some u.s. embassy employees heard in havana in a series of unnerving incidents that officials say
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were deliberate attacks. the associated press obtained a recording of the sound. experts say it could cause brain injuries and hearing loss. if you don't want to hear this, press mute now, but experts do not believe it's dangerous to hear for short durations through standard devices like tvs. so we're going to play it for you now. and it is still not clear who is behind these sonic attacks. that's going to wrap up this hour. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. coming up right now, more news with hallie jackson. hey, hallie. good morning from washington where it is double-trouble for two obama-era legacies. not just the iran deal, but the health care deal, too. which has us wondering, if president trump breaks it, does he buy it? do he and republicans own the fallout? we're about to bring you live remarks from dluonald trump who become the first sitting president to be at the values
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movement summit. democrats are furious, calling it spiteful. and an act of sabotage. and moderate republicans aren't happy either. and then the president trump will deliver a speech from the white house kicking it to congress to add teeth to the u.s. strategy toward the country. the theme here, the president as he promised to do, dismantling obama-eri obama-eri obama-era deals. we'll start at the white house with kelly o'donnell is joining us from the north lawn. the president couldn't get congress to repeal and replace. now he's talking about dismantling the law piece by piece when it comes to health care, right? >> reporter: a sledgehammer taking a whack at different pieces and putting a couple other things in place like we saw with crossing state lines, opportunity in the shorter term, but the


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