tv The Beat With Ari Melber MSNBC October 13, 2017 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT
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potentially millions. >> that is our top story tonight the man that promised insurance for everybody, making health care costs rise dramatically, trump ending subsidies for low income families, that covers up 26 million people. let's be clear about a fact. donald trump's move right now contradicts his own pledges that he made on the campaign to replace this program and to take care of people. now he says, he will destroy health care for americans and that will make democratic legislators negotiate with him. >> it's going to be time to negotiate health care that's going to be good for everybody. if the democrats were smart, what they'd do is come and negotiate something. >> trump also tweeting, obamacare is imploding, dems should call me to fix it. the news today strump actually opposed to the deal senate democrats had been negotiating,
there is that word again, with republicans, the irony here is trump is apparently unaware by ploeg up these key parts of obamacare, he could be blamed for blowing up obama carry. criticism about the move today from both sides of the aisle. >> i very much disagree with president trump's decision. low-income people are going to have a very difficult time that for some it may be impossible affording their deductibles and their co-pays. >> and a stark joint statement from nancy pelosi and cluck schumer. they saw this action a spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage. strong words on an important issue, which is why as i mentioned, it's our top story tonight. at least 15 states now saying they will sue over this new move from the trump administration. i am joined now by eleanor
holmes-norton, a congress woman that represents washington and the former acting administrators centers for medicare and medicaid in the obama administrati administration. two individuals that know the issues well. congress woman norton, when you look at this put aside whatever differences you and the president may have, on the best way to do health care in theory. in practice, what does this do to people and is he undermining the very pledges he made about having something to replace repeal? >> well, he's broken it there. so it's on his watch. he can no longer talk about obamacare. he's broken it because he's taken the central pillar, which is the reason you have, the affordable health care act in the first place, with words low income people use. actually, these are people that work every day, can't afford health care, or they work for an employer, perhaps a small business person who doesn't offer health care. so there are subsidies there to
allow them to, indeed, go on this new market and buy health care. why do we do that? because otherwise all the rest of us who have employer-based health insurance will end up paying for them when they get sick, because when they get sick, they got to go to the hospital. it's as simple as that, so that by taking the first steps, it wasn't quite the pottery barn notion that you broke it and it's yours. when you took the first step, it was 90% of the, he's trying to pull or he said he would, that he said, half of navigators wouldn't be there, for example. or you couldn't go on, on weekends in order to get your affordable health care. well those around the edges and they hurt a lot. but this is like taking a thread of that, to hold the fabric together, pulling it out and then the whole fabric falls apart.
>> so congress woman, you look at this as a before and after moment, that the program up to this day, basically, which was increasing the number of americans who have some kind of insurance and decreasing discrimination based on existing conditions and all those issues people have heard about, you are saying up to this point, that was obamacare, from this day forward, it should be judged as trump care? >> there is now trump care, because the essential pillar that made it obamacare the subsidies that went for people who could otherwise not afford health care, although they work every day, or the small businesses, that's gone. so what is left? now there is trump you own it. if this was a bluff, it was a bad bluff. by the way, it's important to me to say this doesn't go into effect right away. so i don't want to panic everybody. this has to go through regulations. it could happen sometime before 2019. that's why i say it may be a big bluff. he says he wants people to come to the table.
i thought republicans and democrats were already at the table with amal alexander and patty murray in the senate. >> congress woman, i'm old enough to remember six weeks ago when they were trying to push it on a party line vote. i want you to please hang with me. i want to go to andy here, a very experienced person on all the medicare/medicaid oversight. i will put up on the screen, something the congress woman alluded to, the various steps that have been going on, ending cost-sharing payments, the open door to plans with fewer benefits, stop sending officials to enrollment events. advertising cut by 90% of this administration, navigators cut, that's the people that help you find a plan and cutting the enrollment period in half. so there's no time to enroll. do you view this as a policy matter as starkly as the congress woman in the before and after of this moment? >> well, congress woman just said something very important. what you are looking at now,
ladies and gentlemen, is trump care. you know, the -- in trump care, let's be clear the cbo told us what will happen from these actions. number one, a million fewer people will have insurance coverage. number two, those that retain coverage, particularly those in the middle class will pay 20% more for insurance and number three, we're going to see a complete deterioration of the protections that people had and finally i should add, this is going to add close to $200 billion to the deficit. so taxpayers lose. and that's just -- >> that's just on the president's side of the road. the other thing i want to ask you about, andy, is an issue i know that's near and dear to your heart. it's something we have been covering a lot. it doesn't at this moment have to do with donald trump. there are a lot of other important issues. the republican congress, totally apart from what donald trump the doing has failed to reauthorize the key chip program, which has
long been a bipartisan thing, you may recall we covered it repeatedly. it's what provides care to 9 million kids. we put there up on our screen, 48 days left because congress has blown through the deadline. to you first and then to congressman norton on what that means and how this works and why after years of bipartisanship congress appears to be aselene when it comes to healthcare for children. >> yeah, clip is a gimme. clip is the most bipartisan thing out there. it ensures 12% of the kids in this country. there is nobody that doesn't like chip. the only areas, i do this on trump's doorstep as well. this is what happens when we don't have moral leadership. this is what happens when we focus on making a political victory, trying to deliver something for his base. so he can claim he did something about the aca, eastern though he's damaging it, rather than doing what i think nine out of ten or maybe 99 out of 100 presidents would do, which is
give kids what they need first and i think this is very representative of the fact that the republicans in congress don't have a leader to look to that are pushing them to do the important things. >> and then congress woman. >> well, i almost agree with you. not entirely. he signed just as we got it to his desk. why haven't the republican leadership ryan and mcconnell gotten this through, you are absolutely right. there is no opposition to it that i've heard. you are leaving some districts. my district has a little time to go. i think some district versus already run out of chip's money. >> that is really a moral outrage and it didn't have to happen because there is not disagreement in the congress and i believe that trump would sign the bill. >> and i appreciate it. you have so much insight into this. because you are right there on the ground and you are mentioning that there may be people in congress who do want to move on this, if there is the vote. i have to mention we have been trying to get ahold of senator orrin hatch all week to talk
about this i noted he was one of the republicans initially for it. his office has not been able to get back to us. senator orrin hamp, if you are listening, if anyone in utah is listening. you have an invite to come in and talk about this. congresswoman eleanor holmes-norton. i turn to ed rendell and a pennsylvania governor and chair of the democratic party. who knows about the politics and eugene scott, a political reporter, governor, what is happening to the politics of all this? it would seem, we talked about policy. we talked about the ethics. it would seem on the sheer politics when you talk about children or making something work, it used to be good things that used to be good politics. >> yeah. i can't believe anybody in the white house agrees with a what the president says he's going to do, because it's disastrous politics. the congress woman is right, he will own this he will be seen as vindictive and constructive. he's taking away health care from people that need it
desperately and from kids. what's the percentage in that? i'm not sure the base will like it. certainly what's happening to trump support is each week that goes by, a little more chips away each time. i think this will speed up that chipping process and it will lose a whole lot more politically than he can possibly gain. i can't think of what the gain happy birthday. >> right. eugene, donald trump is not laying out what the game will be. he sort of talked about the meandering roots today, take a listen. >> we are taking a little different route than we had hoped. because getting congress -- >> they forgot what their pledges were. so we're going a little different route. but you know what, in the ends, it's will be just as effective and maybe it will even be better. >> yeah, to me this is a reminder of the president saying earlier in his administration who knew health care cob so hard and when he went into the white house, he spoke throughout on the campaign all the time that he wanted to put something that
would replace obamacare that would be better for americans, but he hadn't been clear in details what that is. i think a part of the reason is, he may be noticing that many of the people who sent him to the white house actually approve of obamacare way more significantly than they let on when they were on the trail. so now he's stuck in that hard place where he said he wanted to get rid of this thing that people said they wanted him to get rid of and replace it with something better. it's not clear what that could be. >> you look to that and it goes to who is responsible? governor rendell, it would be something if donald trump's presidency was an endless series of avoidable outrages, feuds and distractions. >> that would be a huge amount of lost time and opportunity. but it would be just. that but what you see on a day like today with this attack on health care, something much more than that then it go es to, well, who's going to be held responsible? a poll here, 64% of people saying trump and the republicans now responsible for the
obamacare problems moving forward, 28% obama and the democrats. governor, we hear about a 50-50 country. >> that doesn't look like a 50-50 split on that one. >> no, after this, today's announcement, i think those numbers will get worse for the president. and the interesting thing is, he had a chance to work with democrats and fashion something that wouldn't necessarily repeal obamacare but it would have amended it sufficiently that trump could have declared victory, but whatever chance he has of working with democrats has just evaporated, we will see this as ve nile, hurtful to people and people that need it the most. so i think any chance of accord with democrats on this is gone unless the congress just gets together and does it by themselves and sends it to trump and dares him to veto it. >> governor, while i have you, we got breaking news from the time you just sat down in that chair. so i know you haven't heard this yet, but i'm going to share it and get a quick response from you. it will be a big part of our show i think, breaking news
coming into our newsroom, reince priebus, the former chief of staff of donald trump has done an interview with the special council's office, of course, led by bob mueller. william burke, reince priebus' lawyer. he confirms a voluntary ver view and happy to answer those questions. you have been in a lot of high powered rooms, what do you think of that news? >> i think reince priebus will answer truthfully. i don't think he will risk being prosecuted with perjury. i think he will paint a picture of potential destruction. there is no question about it. so i don't think that's good news for the president. >> you think reacting to this news here that bob mueller's team is sittingwith reince priebus. you think what he will say will contribute to the obstruction case? >> yeah, i think it will. i don't think it will contradict the obstruction case. i think it las the possibility of contributing and reenforcing it. as reince priebus is not going
to lie for donald trump, i don't believe that for a second. >> wow, governor rendell, an expert on many things, thank you for that perspective. eugene scott, stick around. you are a part of fallback friday. >> i am. >> okay. we will have a lot more on this breaking news, if you are joining "the beat" bob mueller has interviewed reince priebus. we will talk to a foreman prosecutor how that works. later in the show what is trump doing with all this talk from iran? we will separate the hype and what the white house wants you to think to what our experts say the going on. later, we will look at why a trump cabinet member is flying his own flag and minting his own coins as they say in washington -- and later in the show, because it's friday, it's richard lewis. he just sat down with me right here at "30 rock" to talk comedy, trump and some msnbc tidbits. i'll explain. i'm ari melber. you are watching "the beat" on msnbc. patients that i see
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breaking news -- in bob mueller's russia investigation the special counsel's team today interviewed former chief of staff reince priebus. brand into our newsroom, priebus telling us he was voluntarily interviewed by mueller's team and happy to answer the questions. i am joined by people that covered the russia inquiry. ronaldo, what does reince priebus know and what does mueller want to know from him? >> wow. quite a lot. i suspect that was a very interesting interview for mueller's team. and i think the first subject that comes to mind for me is priebus' involvement in the firing of james comey. so what we have heard from various news reports, is that the president spoke with jared kushner, ivanka trump and priebus about his concerns with james comey, came up with his
rational for firing comey and had stephen miller dictate a letter, which we know was later rejected by white house counsel don mcgan and the rhetorics, et cetera, that were made. there was a whole drama surrounding that later that priebus was also involved in, so that is definitely a top subject. another key subject i think that he'll ask about is trump's anger at jeff sessions and, you know, fury over the fact that jeff sessions recuse himself, i think those topics will be rife with potential evidence that mueller's team could use. >> as a prosecutor, how would you ask someone like reince about the state of mind of the president as to whether he had criminal intent, desire to obstruct an investigation or as trump's criminal lawyers have really hammered was just a very angry person, who wanted to fire
someone. because you do have the right to fire but you don't have the right to fire in order to commit a crime. >> so if i was -- if i was talking to mr. priebus instead of talking to you, we would be starting at the very beginning. i would be getting a sense of exactly what his relationship is like with the president. what types of questions and issues the president ordinarily brings to him and discusses with him so i can death set up a contrast between ordinary decision-making by the president and this particular decision. then i would be going through with him exactly what the president told him, when, how, what his mannerisms were, what his attitude was, how he reacted to what other people said, it would be a very exhaustive interview of priebus to get every nugget possible of what the president heard what he said and how the president reacted. >> natasha, as you know, there are really three buckets of potential criminal activity that bob mueller is investigating.
was there a collusion with the campaign? was there anything improper with the russians once this move from a campaign to an administration, individuals like michael flynn who exercised government power, however briefly? and then third, was there obstruction, as ronaldo and i was just discussing, pursuant to the ongoing investigation. you have been covering this daily. you are constantly filing articles, i'm reading. when you look with reince, which of those three buckets do you find him figuring into most? >> basically the obstruction. he was there for the decisions trump made in the first six months in office. i would note that ronaldo pointed out he was there for the discussions that led up to the firing of fbi director james comey. but he was also there when the president crafted this misleading statement about his son's meeting with the russians at trump tower last june. that is definitely something -- >> which again the in response to a criminal investigation? >> right.
>> that is definitely something i think mueller will want to know more about. why does he feel he needs to craft this misleading statement on behalf of his son when he has nothing to hide. >> when you see reince priebus' lawyers saying he's happy to answer the questions. that's the political side of it. there is a way to say i'm doing what i want to do. then there is a way to go a little farther. when i represented clients, we didn't talk a lot about happy, sad, angry or not. my clients were human beings. they had a full range of emotions. i think it's quite striking in a short statement like this, when reince was fired quite uner is.iously by donald trump, he doesn't say i'm doing what i need to do. his lawyer, in what was a carefully thought out and worded statement says today was -- i don't mean in a parental way, happy for reince priebus. >> we see many aides and people around trump called to the interview by mueller or the congressional intelligence
committees. we've gone this response from the lawyers, yeah, they have nothing to hide. they are happy to share everything they knew, they are confident they did nothing wrong, they are eager to share their recollection of what happened when they were at the white house or, you know, around trump at whatever point. so this doesn't strike me as out of the ordinary, it seems like it's pretty much in line with what we have seen in the past. >> ronaldo? >> yeah. what i would say as to mr. priebus, if i was his attorney, i wouldn't be concerned about an interview either. i haven't heard anything to suggest he is a liable. she just a witness. i do think that it may be he, you know, you can be put in a difficult position are a life-long republican who has held important positions in the party. then you are being asked difficult questions about the president of the united states who is also a republican. >> that could you know potentially put him in a difficult position. but given that he was fired and, you know, as we know, there are
fissur fissures within the republican party. maybe she happy. i'm sure he is happy to get a lot of this off his cleft. >> there are fish res, i heard about those, whether those are animateing reince priebus. we don't know. yes, if he was happy and factual, he is going to fill in other details that no one knows about just what happened in those meetings when donald trump was trying to have, pull-asides with jim comey and was angry before and after, all that critical period. it will be really fascinating in and when the fruits of any of this become as part of what we learn, i would say, not just as journalists, what we learn as a society, this looks like, today looks like a signal day in the mueller investigation, which remains ongoing, thank you both. up next, trump's sound and fury on iran signify anything or is it just sound? i will speak to colin powell
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now to the iron deal where president trump appears more focused on rhetoric than action, at least for today. trump has now declined to certify there arrangement. he's not ending it, which he could do. . >> because we'll see what happens over the next short period of time. i can do that instantaneously. i like a two-step process much better. >> well, i may do that. >> leaving an agreement intact. but he may do that. the threat here is that if congress does not strengthen the way trump wants, maybe he'll terminate it. >> in the event we are not able to reach a solution working with
congress and our allies, then the agreement will be terminated. our participation can be cancelled by me as president at any time. >> i am joined by the chief of staff to secretary of state colin powell who has been a critic of trump's approach here. before we get to -- is this a good idea? i need your help to understand what is this idea? a casual viewer of the news at a distance would think something really big happened on iran if you can show us what does his decertification do? >> i think this is a strategy by h.r. mcmaster or rex tillerson, that's too clever. what they're trying to do is use the stature passed by the congress that required the president in order to get the
congress into this deal to certify to them every 90 days iran was, indeed, compliant with the deal. they're trying to use that as a way to get the president out of having to do that because he doesn't want to certify the deal as being okay every 90 days. that's totally contradictory to what he's promised his base. >> so under the according to nal deal with a more traditional president, that was designed to give him accountability or leverage every 90 days, is that right? >> actually it was the congress asserting its responsibility under the constitution, i'm one that says they do have such a responsibility for foreign policy, saying, hey, you did this deal, president obama, but we are going and mostly my party, some democrats, we are going to check unand cause you to have to tell us and put your name on it every 90 days. >> okay. so that's how it was designed. now you have a president who is as you are referring to, has
aides who openly appear to do, you know, acrobatics to try to calm him. walk us through whether this is good or not. >> well, i think they hoped this would give him the ability to do what he want toss do with is he base. at the same time, mat tisz and dunford, the join chiefs of staff, tillerson and others said it would not abrogate the deal. not in such a way the deal would fall apart. i think this is too clever by half. what we will have is ultimately trump having to live up to his other promise. i have been on the hill the last two weeks. i think my party is even very reluctant to close out this deal. it is, after all, working with regard to iran's nuclear weapons. so they're not going to do anything, so trump will have to drag himself right back into this issue and he's going to have to do the second thing they want to do, that is end it,
himself. it will be right back on his plate and it will be a disaster in my mind, because what we're looking at is we're looking at an event weight the president has to say we either back up from iran being a nuclear weapon or we go to war and that's not going to be a good war, i will guarantee you. >> right. and whether all of this works as a way to have other paths other than that march to war, you know, you explain it so well and it seems to me, if i can state the obvious, but sometimes that's a part of my job, it seems really unfortunate so many people are spending so much time trying to simply nullify this president than do what their main job which is focus on the natural security aspects of it. colonel, thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. next to breaking news, bob mueller, his team, interviewing reince priebus today, one of the most senior officials who worked for trump that we have ever
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interviews with his previous chief of staff reince priebus, he was voluntarily interviewed by mueller and quote happy to answer all questions. he answered to shed light on even the firele of james comey. howard, big news, you are someone who brings a lot of experience on friday nights like this, and they seem to be busy. >> right. >> my question to you, tell us what we need to know about this development. >> okay. central to the theory of bob mueller's case, is that there was a coverup. there was a deliberate attempt to hide the true story about what happened in the election. and i think central to that is the question of the firing of jim comey and the explanations given for it. what were the real reasons for the firing and who said what afterwards? and those are the two parts of
mueller's case i think reince priebus can shed the most light on. reince priebus came out in february of 2017 and said flatly as chief of staff in the trump white house, there have been no collusion whatsoever with russia during the campaign, who told him to say that and based on what, why did he say that? then, of course, the whole firing of james comey, which i think mueller believes is in itself an act of obstruction of justice to fire the guy investigating the president. what did priebus know about it? what were the real reasons for it? what was the whole genesis of the letter that was september to comey? who drafted what? who said what? whose opinions were what? also, don't forget, reince priebus is not fundamentally a trump guy. don't forget back during the campaign when priebus was still chairman of the republican party. he said when the tapes of the billy bush tames came out in
october, early october, that donald trump would probably have to drop out of the campaign. that's something that trump never forgot. trump hired him every way, trump humiliated him every day six days to sunday, no wonder reince priebus is happy to testify. >> happy, happy is the word of the day, no question on that. the chief of staff in a healthy administration is the hub. so this is an incredibly important interview for bob mueller for the reasons howard mentioned. have you someone fairly independent and not necessarily what we call a double l the lying loyalists, but also because he's in and out of the room and in and out of every meeting and following the paper and the e-mail and the schedule, from your experience, i know you are at the state department as well as a former white house director, talk to us about the import in the investigation where you are interviewing the chief of staff. >> well the chief of staff is supposed to be the most effective gate-keeper and mover
of information from the top throughout the white house and throughout the administration. so for reince to say there was absolutely no collusion shows either how much he is willing to lie for donald trump as his former presidents or how out of the loop he was. by all accounts, reince was not a very effective chief of staff in wrangling president trump and wrangling the team. there were lots of infighting t. stories of leaking and some severely disturbing events happened in the oval office, while reince was supposed to be in charge. you had meetings, private meetings with sergei kislyak, the ambassador of russia, lavrov, the former minster, no diplomats, nobody from the u.s. side were present. you had russian reporters allowed in for camera spreads and access to the u.s. president. u.s. journalists were not allowed at the same time. all of these activities going on, not just during campaign, but in the official capacity in
the white house under reince priebus' watch. the fact that he let that happen shows either incompetence or an awareness of the deep connection between the trump white house and the russian government. >> let me continue with the lightning round to ronaldo and then howard. what are the key questions you think mueller would want to ask reince priebus today? i'm going to go first. i think he would be very interested in paul manaforts contacts with anyone in the white house. this is a secret white house. they haven't released video logs the way others have. mike flynn's evolving explanation, which the white house called live toss pence and others, but which subsequent events suggested if they were lice, they may have been lies that more than one person was in on and peeling back the onion on that and then thirdly, anything and everything ronaldo related to the response of the investigation. because we talked a little about donald trump giving advice, about how to spin and work the system.
well, what other conversations do we not even know about where people were saying do or don't talk to lawyers, do or don't save or destroy documents. ronaldo and howard will do lightning round all the way around. >> sure, there has been a lot of great questions from you, from both of the journalists. it goes to show why this interview with reince priebus reportedly lasts all day long. i can think of 100 questions. >> give me one, then i'm going to howard. that's what lightning means. >> sorry. how about this what did him and the president talk about last week when they had dinner? >> that's a good one. howard, i agree with you what is manafort's contacts been? he's about to be indicted. you want to know what the white house is doing to probability him or distance themselves from him? >> what does he know about camera, the firm that jared kushner was operating? >> only the lawyer gets the
demerit for going how long, on breaking news, i really appreciate your time. what do you think about the big news on facebook at "the beat" with ari, ahead the legendary comedian richard lewis is back with me today at "30 rock" to talk trump and another topic you might not expect. also, there are some trump supporters who have responded to the battle clap of eminem. yes,ly show it to you. you will decide how cringe-worthy it is. that's up ahead on "the beat."
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>> witch doc? >> they're nice, a crisp frame. >> it helps me forget about all the problems, not about dealing with it. >> "curb your enthusiasm" is back. >> it's a segue. >> you and larry david, this show is back on hbo. >> i'm one of the regulars, i'm not a regular. i'm on half the show. >> you are on a bill lit. >> it's one of my favorite shows in history. i'm honor nod to be on it. >> is it differ in the trump era? i read it in the new york times, they compared larry david for being so self centered they compared him to donald trump there that's silly, that's stupid, he's a progressist. i would never tell you what the arc is about the show, my car would proceed up, my toaster would proceed up. >> i mentioned did donald trump make it into your act? sfwlisen, i went on stage 48 years ago because i felt judged by everybody, particularly family. because they were in their own world. so i decided to choose a profession where i can be judged
every night for the next 49 years of my life. i went on stage in florida the other night, everyone had a great time. i said, look, there's about 20% of you if i start going after the president, you will start screaming and yelling and the whole show is i went at him my . i'm there to make people laugh. and i also spent my career career eviscerating myself. i'm like a jewish onion, my the time my show is over i'm a thin little jew with a black suit on the floor. >> why is the onion on fire? >> what, are you a chef? what kind of question is this? >> in this business necessity call that a follow-up question. who are your favorite experts or guests on the news? >> howard fine man. hi, howard? follow this, buddy. richard painter to me now is elvis. this guy is the most ethical
human being. i saw trump's daughter eat a snikers bar. we paid for that snikers bar. i want that 22 cents put back in the treasury in sacramento within 12 minutes. >> is there anything we didn't get to that you want to talk about? >> hey, my career is over now. what's the difference? let me go to my show. >> richard lewis, knock them dead tonight. >> i'm the original beat in this case on your show. remember that. >> and if you are in new york, you can catch richard at caroline's tonight and tomorrow night. and folks, it is friday. maybe you had a long week. let's talk about who needs to fallback. that's next. more renewable and clean energy resources because there are limits to the amount of fossil fuels that we can burn. since 1925, we have depended on diesel generators, burning approximately a million gallons of diesel fuel a year.
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it is friday on the beat and that means it's time to fallback. yeah. to fallback is a chance to tell someone from this week they need to chill out, relax or even reassess their choices. welcome back to the panel. eugene scott and joining me comedian seth her sog at the table and out in l.a., andy kind her. always a happy face there. can tell you do comedy. >> i think sebastian gorka always needs to fallback. he put out that tweet that there would be less harassing if people just kept to the pence
rule and wasn't alone with a woman that wasn't their wife. >> wow. >> like, really? like that's the thing that's going to stop it is if everyone just had more shap roens. >> yeah. there's so much to say about is that i almost don't want to say anything about it. eugene, who needs to fallback? >> russia. always russia. i mean, you saw the story this week about this russian linked campaigns that were affiliating themselves, posting as part of the black lives matter movement to stir up tension, racial tension during the election of the and using pokemon go to make people upset. you would take the game and go to a location where there was an incident of police brutality and name the pokemon after one of the victims. you would possibly win some games, some money from amazon. that's if all of this was a joke. it's just the latest unfortunate thing in this entire story zmoo and that's a great one you bring up. i don't think people even heard enough about that story this week. you know, eminem told donald trump to fallback this week.
i want to show earlier in the week we had on a few rappers along with bill kristol to discuss. >> i want to say shout out to joe and chuck as well because they've been activists in this hip hop thing. >> you'rement shouting out bill kristol. >> i've seen bill kristol on tv, but i don't know a man like that yet. >> okay. hey, bill, we don't know you like that. >> i -- i'm -- i'm speechless. what can i say? i'm honored to be even mentioned in in back and forth, obviously. >> i'm glad was honored. incredible. the question was will trump respond to eminem's real bodying of him. the true total rap balgs as we cover. now, the trump administration has not responded, but he does have big internet fans including diamond and silk who are activists. they're big on social media. i check out their stuff sometimes. but i didn't know what to make
of their attempt on donald trump's behalf to issue their own rap battle response. take a look. >> trump's your president, so get over it. stop crying like a baby and a little -- you said to use the word racism and make a connect, but i'm telling you right now your whole rap was wet. boom. >> boom. >> i love it there like you know what? let's not even look at the camera. that's film a video and never look at the camera once. >> diamond and silk, we love you, but that's my nominee to fallback. >> i like diamond. >> andy, who needs to fallback? >> well, first of all, i hope we're able to recreate some of the dershowitz chemistry between us. mark zuck ever berg fallback from his every man's slick.
no one is buying it. he's over 30. get a nice collared shirt. nobody thinks you're a man of the people. spring for a pocket tee. >> virtual trip. >> he's un-- i watch the facebook movie and i rooted for the twins. the other thing is is that, you know, there's something wrong with your sight if i see a pop up ad that says if you like hitler you might also like richard spencer. maybe? did i write that? did that come out of left field? if you like -- i'm not saying i like hitler. >> i said are these real questions? >> no. they're rhetorical. >> when your bit is really killing, you leave a long pause and then you ask a question. hey, you know what? this is our fun segment. we see a lot of politicians
blame the audience or the media. andy kind her keeping it real dressing in all black. eugene scott, her sog. shout out to diamond and silk. we love you. i'll see you back 6:00 p.m. eastern. "hardball with chris matthews" is up next. trump's friend, let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews. in washington this week america saw just how destructive president trump can be. eat threatening a nuclear deal with iran, killing obamacare, engine up the heat with nok and telling puerto rico it must go it alone. late thursday night the president of the united states sabotaged a key component of the affordable care act, a move that could have real consequences for 7 million americans. the white house