tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC October 14, 2017 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT
the era that will forever be known as the great happiness. >> all right. that's tonight's last word. the breaking news we're covering tonight on the russia investigation. reince priebus questioned today by robert mueller's team as the special counsel extends his reach closer and closer to the top. also former campaign chairman paul manafort, new reporting on his possible financial ties to russia. and president trump takes a big swing at two of obama's biggest achievements, healthcare and the iran nuclear deal. all of it as the 11th hour gets underway on a friday night. >> and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 267 of the trump administration and the russian investigation tops our news tonight as it moves in closer to the president.
we have confirmed that former rnc chairman, former white house chief of staff reince priebus met with mueller's team today. he's the highest ranking official to meet with the special council so far. he is seen as a key player in understanding the president's actions, because he was brent for many meetings, including discussions on firing former fbi director james comey, and white house meetings with russian officials. he was also privy to have white house internal documents. priebus, you may recall, left his chief of staff post back in july and on another front tonight, in an nbc news exclusive, there are new details on the money trail having do with russia and former trump campaign manager paul manafort. the investigation reveals that $26 million changed hands in the form of a loan between a company linked to manafort and the o
oligarch, a billionaire with a close ties to the kremlin. the loan brings the total of their known business dealings to around $60 billion over the past decades. oleg is the same man as "the washington post," reported last month that manafort offered to give private briefings to during the campaign. a spokesman for manafort responded with this statement. he has called for the u.s. government to release any intercepts involving him and non-americans in hopes of finally putting an end to these wild conspiracy theories. mr. manafort did not collude with the russian government. keyword there is government. as trump's former campaign manager, manafort say big focus of the mueller effort. the fbi took the rare action of launching a surprised raid on his home over the summer and the "new york times" has reported that manafort expects to be indicted. we want to bring in our lead-off panel without any further delay on a fry night. peter baker white house correspondent "the new york
times" mika oyang, an attorney and former staffer for the house intelligence and armed services committees and matthew miller msnbc justice and security analyst, former chief spokesman at the justice department. welcome to you all. peter, i'd like to begin with you. without knowing what was asked and what was answered in this session with priebus, what can we tell by the fact that he was called? >> well, a couple things. one, of course, is that the president has cast aside quite a number of senior staff in only nine months in office. we've seen a bigger turnover in this white house in a short amount of time than any on modern record. and clearly mr. mueller is going to harvest that. he's going to go to people who used to be on the inside who are no longer in the inside in order to find out what they know and are willing to tell him. it's possible the president could assert, you know, privilege over former aides, but
that doesn't seem to have been the case here and mr. priebus was involved in important issues that must be at the center of what mr. mueller is looking at, not least of which the firing of james comey that may have been cause for some people to believe could be counted as obstruction of justice. >> there was also that flight back from europe on air force one and the drafting of a press release. remind our audience why that's critical. >> that's right. exactly. there were these e-mails that had been discovered from donald trump junior from last year's campaign in which the russians offered to meet with him to provide incriminating information about hillary clinton on behalf of the russian government, that's what the e-mail said. my colleagues at the time contacted the white house about that, president trump was personally involved in the drafting of a statement to respond to that and the initial statement was to say the least, misleading if not incomplete if the said that the meeting was about russian adoptions, which
was not in fact was the advertised meeting. the purpose of the meeting r according to these e-mails, no mention was made in that statement of offer from the russian government to help mr. trump's campaign. mr. trump was directly involved with that statement. i think clearly robert mueller wants to know about that. >> and like all good white house correspondents i have a second follow-up. that is how did reince priebus leave things with the boss and the west wing in general? >> well, he didn't have the happiest departure, you'll remember, of course. he was pushed out on a friday, a rainy friday when the president went to new york and back. reince priebus got off the plane, in a driving rain, got into a car and basically has disappeared since then. he's been quiet, low key, he stayed loyal to the president in the public sense. he's not gone out there and offered commentary or what he thought happened inside the white house or his own departure. >> i think what you can speculate on and some people around him have said he did not have a happy time. he was not a trump loyalist, he was an rnc chairman of a party that didn't particularly want
mr. trump as its nominee and he was brought in as sort of a way of bringing the republican party together and it didn't work out. he and the president didn't get along ultimately in the end. he was not the chief of staff that the president ultimately wanted. >> mika, i do this to you all the time put are not as farr as we know a member of the mueller legal team yet i ask you to speculate about them all the time. what does this tell you about the mueller effort that it has reached priebus? >> it means that they're getting closer and closer to the oval office itself. now, they have someone who's regularly going in and out of oval office who's consulting with the president on a daily basis about his activities, about what statements were drafted. remember, when he was drafting the statement that peter mentioned, he was on a plane on his way back from europe where he had had a private, long conversation, more than one actually, with vladimir putin before he got on that plane. people might want to know what priebus knew about that conversation. it means that they're getting closer to being able to get to the other white house staff and we still have a long way to go
in this. >> i forgot about that little pull-aside conversation with putin. mika, how does this work? it seems to me reince priebus was present so much that is one day enough? do they have the right to recall you? might he have a second session with these folks? >> he might. you know, as they get other information from other witnesses, they may call him back again to clarify. you know, this is them reporting that he has been talking to the mueller team, but we don't know how many other conversations they've had. and i think until they get further along, they reserve the right to recall anyone. >> all right. matthew, is priebus the kind of person they could be looking at to turn? >> i think absolutely. if you look at all of the things, you know, starting with the 2016 campaign and then especially in the white house that he was witness to, the
firing of jim comey, what the president said about why he was going to fire comey, that's very key, his motivation is key. priebus was a witness to all of that. and obviously the one thing that we don't know that bob mueller has yet is someone on the inside who has turned who will help piece this altogether. he's got a lot of circumstantial evidence, he has memos and he can put together testimony, but he doesn't have anyone yet that we know that's turned on the president. i think peter's right, reince priebus has all the incentive in the world to turn on president trump given the way he was fired, but part of what we have to do here is read the tea leaves and there's one very big tea leaf that tells us that he hasn't done that yet. if you look at his attorney, he shares the same attorney with don mcgahn. it's very unusual in a case like this for two people to share the same attorney. don mcgahn is still the white house counsel, not the president's personal attorney but the white house attorney. it's hard to believe that he could represent both -- that barry burke, his attorney could
represent both mcgahn and previous if he had turned and was a witness against the president. >> hey, mika, you're the house council for the purposes of this conversation. what do you think of that last point? >> i think that's right. i think priebus is cooperating but when they're starting to ask questions and where they're setting them against each other then they need to have separate counsel otherwise their lawyer is conflicted. what do you make of the story in chief as it came out tonight? second, i have to point in out. manafort's spokesman released a revised version of his statement. so twice today they have put out a statement but the second one deleted this line. mr. manafort is not indebted to former clients today nor was he at the time he began working for the trump campaign. so that sentence that you're seeing on the screen as judges say, strike is it from your memory, it no longer exists as part of the formal statement that manafort's communications director put out.
with that kind of a windup, peter, what do you make of it? >> that's obviously significant. they don't take that out of statement without cause and it's interesting that they would initially is that in there and have to be corrected at some point. somebody told them that their understanding of the circumstance was knots what they originally thought. even within his own team they don't have their stories straight. we have known and this story reenforces that paul manafort was very big into the russian/pro russian orbit here. this man is one of the richest in russia, he's not an independent actor, and the fact that paul manafort has been close business associate, tied in with lots and lots of money between them over these years is of course -- raises lots of red flags. that doesn't mean he's done anything wrong and there's been collusion. that's a whole separate leap to make and one the lawyers are looking at. there are a lot of issues for paul manafort that go beyond the campaign. it could be the handling of
money. the issues of money laundering have been mentioned. there are lots of things he's gone back with these people many years that have nothing to do with donald trump. so we don't know what that tells us and it may be just as we were saying about reince priebus what they won't paul manafort not for himself but to find out what, if anything, he knows about the campaign last year. >> and, mika, because we're all in the dark using flashlights without knowing what's going on behind the scenes, do you think there's been any surprise among members of the mueller team at just how much financial crimes have become a percentage of this investigation? >> i think they knew that this was going to be a big percentage of this. mueller was pulling some of the best financial prosecutors from across the government. they reached out to the irs criminal investigation team, financial crimes, financial
intelligence folks, they know that they have to follow the money and they brought in the best experts do that. >> matthew, same question. >> i think mieke is exactly right. look, in all of these cases you always end up following the money or in this case maybe it's follow the black caviar. if you remember that's what one of paul manafort's former employees said to him is that oleg was the person that be gave him a big jar of black caviar. we now know that means $60 million. you asked about that statement earlier. i think the reason they withdrew it, one of two things happened. either he repaid the loan or he didn't. if he didn't repay the loan, that means it's either still on the books or it was another potential crime because it was money that he received that wasn't a loan that he probably hasn't reported and paid taxes on and i think that's why you see, as mika said, bob mueller pulling in experts from the irs and a number of people in a history of money laundering. >> showing up with their a game our thanks tour leadoff panel today. as we go to our first break, i
should mention the control room is telling me we inadvertently coming up, we'll get to the other big headline items from today, the president's efforts to tear down what was built by his predecessor on health care and now on iran. that and much more as the 11th hour continues on another busy friday night. shawn evans: it's 6 am.
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more than 24 hours, president trump has take ann sledge hammer to two hallmarks of president obama's time in the white house. first, one of obama's largest foreign policy agreements, the iran nuclear deal. trump announced he would scrap it if congress doesn't do something to make it tougher on iran. >> i am announcing today that we cannot and will not make this certification. we will not continue down a path whose predictable conclusion is more violence, more terror, and the very real threat of iran's nuclear breakout. that is why i am directing my administration to work closely with congress and our allies to address the deal's many serious flaws so that the iranian regime can never threaten the world with nuclear weapons. >> second, obama's biggest domestic achievement, the affordable care act forever
known as obamacare. the president will cut off the payments the government makes to keep costs lower for a lot of americans. >> that money was a subsidy and almost you could say a payoff to insurance companies and what we have to do is come up with a way to help healthcare. what would be nice if the democratic leaders could come over to the white house, we'll negotiate some deal that's good for everybody, that's what i'd like. but they're always a block vote against everything, they're like obstructionists. if they came over, maybe we could make a deal. >> let's talk about it. joining us is heidi president white house reporter for usa today and msnbc political analyst.
kasie hunt, nbc news capitol hill correspondent. her new show on this network premieres sunday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. we're excited for that and also excited to welcome back after an absence of a few minutes peter baker from the "new york times." appreciate you sticking around, peter. >> heidi you get what maybe the toughest question of the day. this is for all of our viewers who have just gotten home who may not have caught up. what happened? what did the president do to healthcare today, more broadly, obamacare today? was there cruelty? was there cynicism involved as some of the democrats have charged. >> they have talked about letting obamacare fail. this is is not letting obamacare fail. had is actively ambushing obamacare and they're being pretty up-front about it saying he didn't get his way in congress in terms of repeal and replace so now he's going to going after this law. what he did today is, according to healthcare experts who i talked to, potentially one of the most damaging things he
could do to try and upset this marketplace. why? because these are the subsidies that allow these insurance -- go to these insurance companies, not just to help any american, but to help low-income americans. and to make this marketplace work and for these insurance companies. so when you say you're going to yank that money, it injects that uncertainty that drives premiums up eventually for everybody because the government is still on the hook for paying other subsidies, brian, so it drives up all premiums. so you're ensure fewer people and you're paying more. and actually analysts are starting to look at this, does this add to the deficit. so you ask, is there cynicism, what is the end goal in this? it appears maybe this is an attempt to try to jam the democrats, to try to actively tear this law apart, to force them to the negotiating table. but getting into the politics of this, the president is taking ownership for this healthcare law politically. i'm not sure that the democrats are going to feel compelled to rescue him and his party from the consequences of what's about to happen here. >> and, heidi, how do you think people whose healthcare is now jeopardized or whose premiums just went out of reach are going to feel about being used as a
jamming device between donald trump and the democrats? >> it's a question of whether they know, brian. people who are watching us tonight will know. i don't know that this is going to get relayed to the conservative media, but through the conservative media, but it should. because as we discussed many times before in this show, those people who could be hurt the most who are benefiting most in terms of the transfer of subsidies are actually in a lot of these red states. now, this is assuming that this ultimately happens, we need to tell people as well that it's possible that congress could step into the breach and rescue this and cut some kind of a deal on subsidies. but when you have the president sending a signal like this, it also throws a bomb potentially into those bipartisan negotiations that, yes, prior to this we're making some progress. >> so all roads lead to capitol hill and kasie hunt that means we're coming to you but not
before we hear peter baker tell all of our viewers what the president did on the iran deal today. >> well, the iran deal, under u.s. law the president has to certify every 90 days whether or not iran is in compliance with the agreement that president obama negotiated in 2015 and whether it's in the american national interest to continue with it. president trump has twice certified that, yes, iran is compliance. today he decided he couldn't do it one more time, it made him too angry to do it, it's too bad a deal and not in america's best interest even though there's no particular allegation of any kind of major violation by the iranians. his point is that iran say bad actor on so many other fronts including support of terrorist groups, developing ballistic missiles and so on that is makes no sense to stay in the deal as is. but that doesn't mean the deal goes away. what this does is punt the issue to congress. he told congress, you figure out what we do next. you figure out what we want to do to address these issues that i've outlined and then we'll take it from there. the other nations in the deal,
not affected by this at this point. if congress decides to reimpose sanctions that would be a different thing that would unravel the deal. >> we should point out in doing. president went against mattis for one and the rest of most of the members of his national security apparatus. so, kasie hunt, any reason to think that congress won't deal with healthcare and the iran deal. >> gee, brian, i can't think of anything that would indicate that perhaps congress is not up to the task of dealing with multiple things very, very quickly, based on their track record this year. republicans want to do tax reform, that's what they want to focus on. from the big picture perspective, based on, you know, both of these topics what you just talked through with heidi and with peter, my sense is that the president is essentially setting himself up to run against them. he knows he -- you know, the president's struggling. his popularity is down. but frankly the popularity of the republican congress is down
more. paul ryan's popularity has dropped ten plus points since the beginning of the year according to some surveys. and he knows that. and this, quite frankly, kicks the can to a congress that has struggled to deliver on major legislative accomplishments but also to do some of these smaller things. on healthcare there were bipartisan negotiations in the works when republicans decided, hey, we're going to take another stab at trying to repeal and replace obamacare in the senate. and that of course failed again. i think they may go back to that. there were republicans who told him, hey, this is not a good idea, don't cut off these payments. we don't want to have to deal with this. but i think that while the president is framing this as a struggle with democrats and saying, hey, i'm trying to force democrats to the table and he may want democrats to come to the table, he's more frustrate the with his own party. i mean, the relationship between president trump and his party, i'm not sure if congress has
ever quite been worse. bob corker is out with new comments tonight talking about rex tillerson and using language that i don't even want to repeat on tv for how he feels about how the president has treated him. so i think that essentially the president is setting up the congress to fail and that that may what we're going to see play out the next six months. >> peter, is this an act of passive aggression against the leadership? and i want to read you something i just saw from mike murphy on twitter tonight. speculative thought, 19 gop senators are up for re-election in 2020. what if three or four get corkeritis and decide not to run and go bull worth now? something to think about. >> well, it is, yeah. i think that's right, he's just put a couple other big items on an already packed agenda.
not only do they want to do tax cuts, they have to address financing the government by december 8th, and they have to look at the debt ceiling soon after that. and then deal with the children brought here as younger immigrants under the daca program. there's a children's healthcare program that's expired. most members seem to want to restore the funding for that. that's a lot to deal with before you get iran and now these healthcare subsidies on the table. can they walk and chew gum at the same time? not a lot of effort about that. and the republican caucus is so poisoned right now in terms of the president. they're so unhappy with him, not many of them have spoken out the way bob corker has, that's true. if you go bulworth, that's an interesting question as things go further south between the two you could see more of them begin to speak out but they're a little afraid. they're afraid of a bannon wing challenge in the primaries. he's made clear he -- steve bannon the president's former adviser he's made clear he wants to challenge a lot of these establishment republicans in primaries next year. there's a real nervousness among
republicans on capitol hill and an uncertainty about which direction to good. >> what a mess. i've never heard it so artfully explained, however, by heidi, kasie hunt, peter baker, thank you and easily the best name for a show on this network since the 11th hour. casey dc debuts 7:00 p.m. eastern time sunday evening. there's nothing else going on, not to be watching. >> it's right in between the football games, brian. >> i wasn't gonna mention that at all. coming up, what do the changes to this iran nuclear deal mean for our allies. all those americans in uniform, for the possibility of finding a diplomatic solution for north korea. all of that when we continue. tonight "the washington ente that complain about dry mouth they feel that they have to drink a lot of water medications seem to be the number one cause for dry mouth. i like to recommend biotene. it replenishes the moisture in your mouth. biotene definitely works!
tonight "the washington post" editorial board has weighed in on the president's decision to decertify the iran deal. the headline, quote, trump has charted a perilous course on iran. quote, in an act of political vanity and geopolitical folly, president trump has made one of the most serious national security challenges facing the united states that of iran considerably worse. joining us to talk about this urgent matter tonight, u.s. general barry mccaffrey. former battlefield commander in
the persian gulf, these days an msnbc military analyst. also meria is back with us. general, the question to you and it's a tough one because we're dealing with a lay audience come together news at the end of the day. what happened today to this deal, to this nation, what happened to our standing, perhaps, with our allies and around the world? >> well, pretty risky course of action. the president obviously is trying to apply leverage on the iranians who are causing huge maihem and mischief in iraq, syria, lebanon and now in afghanistan increasingly. this accord that secretary kerry and president obama got didn't cover their many other lines of conflict, nor their missile development program. now, the problem is his own secretary of defense, jim mattis said it's too late, we can't withdraw, we will never be able to reimpose the sanctions. the european union won't stand
with us, never mind the chinese and the russians. so it's hard to see what leverage he gets when the iranians can read "the washington post" also. >> how do you feel this affects our standing, our negotiating ability, how does it ricochet around the world and particularly to name one place, north korea? >> it makes it very difficult for the u.s. to bring anybody else to the table to have a negotiating position with north korea. he would rather force regime change of the type that we saw on george bush in iraq that where the united states went in alone to top will a regime that nearly two decades later hasn't worked out well for the united states in terms of security and our apple lies are not with us
in that fight. this is the same type of rhetoric that we're hearing about north korea. it sounds like a drum beat to war rather than any of the diplomatic overtures we should be seeing at this point to not only curtail iran's interest in a nuclear program which was the purpose and intent of the deal, or you are tailing iran's regional activity, whether it's support for hezbollah or any other terrorist activities. those can be and have been addressed with additional sanctions. president levied some today, congress levied some several months ago. the idea of muddling sanctions with the iran deal is what is confusing for our partners because it puts them, our european allies in the position of having to now renegotiate in a very public way without having any leverage or any understanding of what the u.s. goal is in the region. >> so, general, you travel the world a lot. when you look at actual damage thus far to our alliances, especially the ones that are so important to the united states, do you see any real reason for
concern? >> well, by the way, i fully concur with what nayyera just said on these issues, particularly with iran. but something has to be said here. i think that the president has lost almost all credibility with the international community. they're going to wait him out. so i wouldn't actually overstate the damage he's doing. i think the problem is we've got so many crises going on potentially that he's overloading the diplomatic effort as well as the u.s. armed forces and our ability to deal with it. but i think president trump is no longer considered to be a rational actor in this dialogue. i don't want us to take our eye off north korea.
the current language out of the administration, the lack of a diplomatic and serious engagement strategy, in my view, has us sliding toward war by next summer. >> well, neyyera, i've known the general for many years, i know him as a level headed man, not giving to hyperbole, that is a depressing view. do you concur. >> absolutely. let's not forget to underscore point that the general made. iran is now considered the rational actor in this scenario because iran complied with every aspect of the deal and, in fact, because the deal allowed united states and other inspectors to take a deep look into what iran's activities are, there was also that element of intelligence efforts and gathering that, frankly, helps our partners like the israelis have access and information that they never had before. so in that sense we, by not certifying that this is in the united states's national
security interest, we are now taking away a level of access and visibility we had in iran that allowed us to occur fail curtail lots of this behavior. moscow and beijing we cannot forget about those two actors as well. when the united states recedes from the diplomatic table, russia, china, they step up and they start moving a position that is not to the advantage of democracy and human rights around the world. >> and, general, when i hear you talking about a slide toward war, it should chill everyone within the sound of your voice. but we were supposed to feel better about the people, especially the experienced former military commanders around this president, the guys with some stars on their shoulders. >> well, i think what happened was you ended up with a national security adviser, general mcmaster and john kelly and secretary mattis slowed down the movement on the iranian deal. by the way, he hasn't withdrawn. the accord's still in place. >> right. >> and my judgment congress is unlikely to reapply sanctions. so let's wait and see. >> wow, what a conversation.
>> what we do have to watch out about is getting out of this 90-day cycle of the potential to unravel another obama signature deal. that seems to be what the generals around the president happen to slow roll and hopefully donald trump will be distracted by something else. but this will come up again in 90 days. >> the timer keeps coming up as ours just did for this segment. our thanks tonight to you. thank you both so much for coming on on a friday night. another break and coming up the president goes there again on puerto rico when we continue. kyle: mom! mom!
kyle, we talked about this. there's no monsters. but you said they'd be watching us all the time. no, no. no, honey, we meant that progressive would be protecting us 24/7. we just bundled home and auto and saved money. that's nothing to be afraid of. -but -- -good night, kyle. [ switch clicks, door closes ] ♪ i told you i was just checking the wiring in here, kyle. he's never like this. i think something's going on at school. -[ sighs ] -he's not engaging. i left texas and i left florida and i left louisiana and i went to puerto rico, and i met with the president of the virgin
islands. we're going to be there. we have really it's not even a question of a choice. we don't even want a choice. we're going to be there as americans. >> for the record, donald trump is the president of the u.s. virgin islands. he met with the governor of that u.s. territory. this morning on twitter the president seemed to soften his position on puerto rico writing, the wonderful people of puerto rico with their unmatched spirit, know how bad things were before the hurricanes, i will always be with them. later, he appeared to pivot back to something closer to his original stance. >> well, you have to watch it. you can't say there was a hurricane and now we're going spend "x" dollars. and we also have to do something with all the money that's been invested mostly private, the government's gonna have to come before that money because the government's gonna want security, they're going to have to come before that money. i'm sure we'll be able to work that out. but the puerto rican people have tremendous spirit.
when i was there and looked at the way they have to go through. but they have a lot of problems. we're going to help them straighten it out. >> let's talk about a all of it, indira is back with us, and jonathan allen back with us. nbc news national political reporter. welcome to you both. indira we have watched the president on this from the storm. people have called it trolling, victim blaming, talking about infra structure, talking about the debt that puerto rico owns. in effect, blaming folks who've just had a tragedy upon them. i'm going to quote to you from eugene robinson, our friend and pulitzer prize winner in the post today. headline "abandoning puerto rico would be an impeachable owe fence. this maybe the quote most unamerican thing trump as ever said or done. i'm serious if he actually withdraws emergency assistance while puerto rico is in such condition, congress should begin impeachment proceedings.
presidents do not get to pick and choose which americans to help at times of disaster." and last night on this broadcast nicole wallace was openly questioning whether or not the president knew before this storm that puerto ricans were tax-paying american citizens. he has since said that, you know, they can't have fema or the military forever. what do you make of where he is on this issue and these folks? >> well, where to begin? i mean, first of all, nicole wallace, as we all know, worked for president george w. bush as a senior adviser and communications and she knows very well that for george bush his response to katrina was a real low point for his administration. and it was very difficult because his ratings went down so much as he was seen as not properly responding to that crisis. in fact, we see that now the latest poll shows that the ratings for donald trump are
even worse than they were for bush after katrina. a majority of the country feels he's not doing enough for our fellow citizens in puerto rico. but i agree with nicole that it's quite possible the present didn't realize they were citizens. but more importantly he probably does realize that they don't get a vote in the presidential election. now something may change if 100,000 puerto ricans that they have to flee to florida where i'm sitting right now, that could put this state into swing state category if those people are quite upset with his response. i think there are a lot of layers to unpack in his response. he was so positive with floridians and texans saying we'll be there with you forever no matter what happens. but hispanics in puerto rico don't get the same response from him. it's troubling. >> jonathan, it would be malpractice for me not to ask you about news we've just been alerted to thanks to kasie hunt. and politico. corker has uncorked again against the president and the administration, quote, you
cannot publicly castrate your own secretary of state without giving yourself that binary choice. this is the washington post headline bob corker on trump's biggest problem, the castration of rex tillerson. jonathan, i read this quote earlier from mike murphy wondering if other gop senators are going to think better of running for re-election and if they don't will they join corker in the kind of loud that wing of the republican party? is he just going to be this guy? >> i think that, number one, in terms of mike murphy, that's wishful thinking right now i think in most senators are going to make a decision of whether or not they want to be in the united states senate and it's really not that bad of a job no matter how frustrated they. they get paid a reasonable a. money, healthcare, et cetera, so i think most of them will probably hang on. what's interesting with tillerson and corker here is, number one, i think that corker is he expressing a frustration
that's held by a lot of people who believe many diplomacy that our secretary of state is unable do anything to really soften what the american position is and try to soften another country. so we see escalation with country after country. and then as he says, corker says, binary choice of war or not war. and then the other thing that's going on if corker wanted to help tillerson talking to a reporter and saying he's been castrated does not help his position in any way, shape or form. >> back to those incouple banlt senators, they're not going to enjoy getting primaried by bannen liberals either. >> no, some of them will fight and some will probably get knocked off and the bannonite primary challenges don't have to be 100% successful to send a chill through the republican caucus in the senate. but you might see senators altering their voting behavior as a result of some of that
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in california, the death tool is at least 34 people, as we are watching the deadliest outbreak of wildfires in that state's history. here are some more numbers. at least 256 people are still unaccounted for. 90,000 people in all are on the run, without a home. nearly 6,000 homes and businesses are uninhabitable. earlier this evening, we spoke with nbc news correspondent joe fryar in santa rosa. >> reporter: brian, here in santa rosa, some have described the destruction as apocalyptic. all around us, destruction as far as the eye can see. entire neighborhoods detroit. in fact, the mayor here says in this city alone, more than 2800
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that's when we got into the pool. >> this region is not out of the woods yet. a red flag warning taking effect tonight. winds gusts could top 50 miles an hour at higher elevations over the weekend which has a lot of people here on high alert. firefighters have made some progress in the last couple days, they put out a few smaller fires and started to contain some of the larger fires. these flames are burning close to neighborhoods and towns. that's why thousands are still evacuated. some tell us they do not know if they're homes survived. one of the homes destroyed belonged to the late great charles schultz, his widow did make it out. she survives, the museum that pays tribute to shultz that also survived. another well known person with ties to this community, celebrity chef, guy fieri, he's been organizing an effort with
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