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whoo! >> that's what i like to see, a little girl power. brit said she loved the video and has watched it 100 times. well, i'm a close second. i think i have watched it 16. i love that story. and i'm wishing the best of luck and healthy pregnancy to brit. that wraps us up this hour. see, i'm tongue-tied by that. i'm stephanie ruhle. see you at 11:00 with ali velshi. now to another dear friend of mine, hallie jackson in the district of columbia. >> love the girl power on a monday morning. see you in an hour. for now, we'll start out this hour with a very busy week and a lunch that may get a little weird. maybe not, but mitch mcconnell's meeting with the president after months of, let's call it, awkwardness. on the menu? the budget, tax reform, foreign policy and maybe some fence mending. he promises war against the
opioid crisis that we have followed closely on this show. we'll talk to the washington poe reporter on how congress weakened the ability to crack down on painkiller medicine. and now out this morning, what the dea has to say about it. and democrats divided. we're starting a new serious on the battle for the heart and soul of the democratic party with the number two in the dnc joining us live. lots to get to over the next 60 minutes. but first, kristen welker at the white house. we'll look ahead to the cabinet meeting and lunch between president trump, the vice president and mitch mcconnell. what does the administration hope to get out of this? >> reporter: it's a busy monday. first for the cabinet meeting, president trump likely to discuss a range of topics, everything from foreign to domestic policy. last week he announced the move to decertify the nuclear deal and kicking that to congress.
expect that to be a topic of conversation as well as a range of other issues from the budget to taxes. but all eyes are going to be on his meeting with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. this comes after the two had tensions of cold war. some have put it as strongly as that. because the president has publicly and privately accused leader mcconnell for failing to repeal and replace obamacare. we feel like he was not able to get the ball over the finish line. so what is on the menu today? i'm told the budget, tax reform and, of course, health care, just last week, the president announcing the executive orders aimed at gutting parts of obamacare. but look, hallie, the stakes couldn't be higher. because the administration, congress wasn't able to repeal and replace obamacare, sources here at the white house and on capitol hill say he needs to really have a legislative victory when it comes to tax reform. in order to do that, they need to get the budget first. so this comes as over the weekend you pointed out, one of
the president's former top advisers steve bannon essentially declaring war on the establishment brand of the republican party. but the president taking a different tact, hallie, he's reaching out to members of of the establishment, golfing with lindsey graham over the weekend. and he golfed with senator rand paul. and taking aim at democrats. let me read you a tweet from just this morning, the democrats only want to increase taxes and destruct. that's all they're good at. so a lot at play here as the president is poised to have lunch with senator majority leader mitch mcconnell. it could be a thaw in the cold war, hallie. >> thank you very much. see, you heard the president slam democrats but one of them kristen just read this morning, chuck schumer is out with tweets on his own. the president complains about fake news. this tax plan's fake map, as bad of any of the fake news he's claimed about. nothing could lead to discussing
the economy with president obama. i know you'll be chasing down lawmakers with everybody back in session. it looks like the president wants to and needs to get something done with mitch mcconnell. because chuck and nancy don't seem to be playing ball on taxes. >> reporter: right. there's no democratic rescue mission here for the president on the tax reform and getting the budget done, because democrats and republicans know the same thing. they both can see the writing on the wall here. the middle class tax break is exceptionally important for the president and important. i know that lindsey graham tried to impress this on the president and said, you have to find a way to get this done if you want to keep a republican majority in power after 2018. and i can guarantee that came up on the golf course. and something that will come up in this lunch today. mitch mcconnell knows his majority and ability to get things done is on the line, too,
if they don't get this done. one of the things that mcconnell and that we have heard from other senators trying to impress upon this. lay off your fellow republicans and help us do our jobs. susan collins talked a bit about it this morning. >> i don't think the twitter war between him and the president is productive. but there's no doubt that this president, the extremely unconventional approach, has caused more chaos. and i think it's good and our country and our relationship with our allies and our enemy. >> reporter: hallie, the him there was bob corker. but if you change the week, you can change out the republican senator. there's have been so many of these twitter battles back and
forth. and the republicans are realizing they are out of time to stop fighting amongst themselves to get something done this year. >> garrett haake, thank you. the president is dealing with a lot domestically and on the policy front as well. i want to continue the discussion with former democratic congressman from tennessee, thank you for being on the show. and we have the white house reporter from bloomberg news, sharon blackburn. pick your adjective between president trump and senator corker. the path has been undercutting rex tillerson saying, quote, you cannot publicly castrate your own secretary of state. we'll play tillerson's response. here's what he said. >> you don't want to say anything about the senator,
suggesting that you have been attacked. >> i have checked on this. >> has the president been undercutting rex tillerson on the world stage here? >> he's undercut several of his cabinet members over the last several months. i was reassured listening to secretary tillerson on a lot of fronts this last weekend. mainly the conversations and negotiations with north korea and china continue. it sounds as if secretary tillerson remains confident there. but senator collins has to be taken at her word. the tweeting on each side has to stop. not only do they have to deal with north korea, but as she said this morning, it would probably be hohave to keep us i the iranian deal or to throw off points that could win the president's approval and have us back down from the decertify
case. >> were you reassured by his comments that diplomacy will continue until the first bombs drop in north korea? you have the u.s. and south korea, the backdrop doing joint naval drills starting this week. >> reporter: that was the most important takeaway from his comments over the weekend. and thankfully, the president didn't undercut the words after hearing secretary tillerson on one of the rival networks. >> ic want to turn to zeke now. starting with japan and south korea for the president, that's the context here. >> first he's structuring the first half of the trip around north korea. structuring the military options, going to japan with
service members and victims of those kidnapped by north korea and then going to south korea and then china, to try to pressure china to take a tough stance on north korea. so for the president, the challenge will be coming up with something to deliver that will prove to be tractable. they set expectations really high the way they backed out where he's going, but they have to deliver this yet. >> every president has a lot to deal with. this president talking about the deliverables when it comes to his asian trip, north korea, the critical meetings now between xi jinping when he heads out there. but from the beginning of the show here, he's also got a lot on his plate when it comes to domestic issues. kicking it over to the congress. kristen called it a cold war, that's what it is based on all the reporting we have done. >> he might actually enjoy 12 weeks in asia. >> 2 weeks. >> sorry, 2 weeks.
it feels like 12 weeks for all the reporters on the trip. 12 days, two weeks n asia to get a break from all the domestic drama. maybe it will cool the temperature down a bit. and maybe congress and folks on capitol hill can have quiet space to work without a constant bomb being thrown at them from one direction or another and not knowing where it is coming from. but it will be a critical time. there's still talk about getting tax reform done before the end of the year. that's really flipping out of reach at this point and admitted, health care is something to look at in 2018. >> can i have one point here? >> jump in. >> north korea, just ten seconds, this trip is so important, the 12 days over there, largely because if there's not some short-term or intermediate resolution to the north korea issue, remember, the olympics are in south korea. our network is carrying them. how can you send a delegation of athletes there if we don't have
some understanding or america doesn't have an understanding that missiles and tests won't be conducted during that time. this trip takes on the added enormous that regard as well. >> i want to get you on the budget discussion because you have been on this committee. so when shannon says it is going to be very difficult for a tax cut plan to get through the white house. it has toll navigate the budget simultaneously if not first, is that going to be something that this congress can get done, particularly when you hear what chuck schumer had to say on live. >> well, they need to get something done. they will have a really hard time, not only democrats, but they have a harder time battling steve bannon and the wing of the republican party. i think democrats should take a step back and understand that if republicans are able to get something through the budget committee, are able to get a budget plan and enable to move on the taxes, then we are silent in this and standing on the sidelines screaming no. i'm not convinced that helps us politically either.
i believe that's up to the leaders to think through this for a little longer, but you have to assume that republicans will find a way to get to a real conversation and perhaps a deliberation and vote on tax cuts. if they do and hold true to the middle class tax cuts and raise the rates on the top earners in the country and obviously lower business taxes, that's sounds more popular than our physician which is no. i hope we think a little more seriously about our position. >> thank you for coming on this program. a pleasure to have you. and shannon, stick around. because up next, we want to get to the bombshell report you read this weekend on something we talk about a lot on the show, the opioid crisis. lawmakers in d.c. pulling the plug on government polls at the ti time. i mean, you did find money to buy those boots.
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we have breaking news in the disser dissertion case of beau bergdahl. the guilty plea begins to bring an end to the highly-publicized saga eight years after bergdahl's disappearance in afghanistan set off search missions by his fellow soldiers. former president obama was criticized by republicans for the 2014 prisoner swap that brought bergdahl home and then
candidate donald trump slammed bergdahl on the campaign trail as a traitor. we are told the judge is questioning bowe bergdahl to make sure he knows what he's adhering to with entering the plea. we'll have much more coming up later in the show. now to another topic we have covered on this program, that's the opioid crisis. we have gone inside the neighborhoods and homes of those affected by this, but this morning the focus turns to washington. a former drug administration official is blowing the whistle on this report by "60 minutes" and "the washington post" saying the prescription industry successfully lobbied congress to, in essence, strip that agency's enforcement powers arguing that helped to fuel the opioid crisis. new this morning, the dea is responding telling cbs it will continue to use the tools at its disposal to fight the epidemic. here's the same, during the past seven years we have removed 900 registrations annually preventing reckless doctors and road businesses from making an
already troubling problem worse. increasingly, our investigators initiated 10,000 cases and averaged more than 2,000 arrests per year. so let's break this down, lenny bernstein is one of the "washington post" reporters working on this story. lenny, for months you have been digging into this for the better part of a year, i think. >> yes. this story, in particular, about six months and the whole topic about 18 months. >> so i want to first talk about that whistleblower, explaining the alleged role of the drug companies in the "60 minutes" companion piece to "the washington post" report. i want to play it and come back to you. >> this is an industry that allowed millions and millions of drugs to go into bad pharmacies and doctors offices that distributed them out to people who had no legitimate need for those drugs. >> who are these distributors? >> the three largest distribu r
distributors are cardinal health, mckessan and amerisource burden. >> you know the implication of what you're saying, that these big companyies knew they were pumping drugs into communities that were killing people. that's not and obligation, that's a fact. >> that's exactly what they did. >> that's stunning here, lenny. a representative for the distributors tells "60 minutes" the problem is not distributors but those doctors who overprescribe opioids. talk about this as it relates to the epidemic. >> sure. joe is a former dea official who we have been talking to for the past 18 months or so, shortly after he was forced out of the dea by congress in an
investigation from congress that actually went nowhere. joe had the courage to say publicly that there was a lot of corruption going on around this issue, that congress was not doing what it should be doing to protect the american people, the justice didn't wasn't doing it. the dea was being throttled. and it was all because of the influence of the drug industry and the money they spent on capitol hill and the influence they had. >> let's talk about that money because the pack that supported the drug industry members contributed $1.5 million to the 23 lawmakers who sponsored or co-sponsored different versions of the bill. and overall, the administration, this group spent $106 million lobbying congress on the bill. another legislate between 2014 and 2015, these are enormous and staggering numbers. there's a legislative angle here about the bill that was passed by congress. and one of the people who backed it is a person who president trump now wants to become his
drug czar, right? >> tom marino from northwestern pennsylvania is the president's nominee to become the drug czar, the head of the drug control policy. yes, those are staggering numbers. he received a fair bit of campaign cash from these folks. and they spent a lot more lobbying on capitol hill. can you draw a direct line from that? no. but why would congress take away the dea's most important weapon at the height of the opioid crisis when 62,000 people are dying. >> so why would congress take this weapon away is the central question here. now, distributors say we are not doing that, right? a rep told you paper to be clear, this supports realtime communications between all parties when it comes to drug diversion. do they have a point? >> not really. the drug industry has been saying for the past decade, the dea was cracking down on them
saying, come on, let's cooperate and work together. but, at the same time, they were failing to report hundreds and hundreds of suspicious orders for millions and millions of pills. now -- >> millions of pills going to one county in west virginia, right? a place that was struggling with the opioid epidemic that was seeing vastly more painkillers, essentially, opioids coming in than other places in the country? >> millions and millions of pills coming out of one farm city in a tiny town in west virginia. so the distributors have been saying, let's cooperate. the dea says, no, after we warned you several times, if you continue to behave this way, we are going to sanction you. and the drug industry was tired of being sanctioned and went to capitol hill and told the legislators, you have to do something about this guy. >> i have a reporter here with me, she has a question for you. >> i covered the industry during the sudafed battle and the
industry tried to prevent anyone from taking this. do you feel like there's something to be done to prevent this happening again? what is the next pharmaceutical that people will start abusing that is not on our radar now and the prevention that can be done down the road? >> i don't know what the next pharmaceutical is that people are going to start abusing, but i think there has to be much more oversight of what congress and the drug industry are doing up on xril. this thing passed by consent. where was the dea? >> have you seen any more since this story exploded this weekend? >> we are expected to hear from congress marino but don't know when. we have not heard anything from the hill since this happened. >> do you expect you might? >> i think we will. >> okay, i hope when you do you will come more to share more on
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we are back now with a look at the morning headlines. in a couple hours from now, president trump has lunch with mitch mcconnell at the white house, talking budgets and maybe foreign policy. the two leaders will try to iron out a path forward on the republican agenda that so far has been stalled. and a warning that oil may be leaking in one of the city's biggest lakes. the rig there exploded on sunday. seven people hurt. at least one person is still missing. the coast guard is out on the scene now helping in the search. and investigators are trying to figure out whether cleaning chemicals may have triggered that explosion. and back here in washington, the justice department is putting one of the hate crimes lawyers on the case of a murdered transgender teenager. the teenager was killed last year. this is an unusual move by the doj that started as a small town
shooting. the attorney general is committing to protecting the civil rights of all americans. jeff sessions is criticized for rolling back federal protections for lgbt citizens. and breaking news this morning in the dissergs case of army sergeant bowe bergdahl. he just pleaded guilty to charges he endangered his fellow service members after walking away from a remote post in afghanistan back in 2009. i want to head over to the pentagon where our correspondent hans nichols is at the white house. you have been following what this means for his future, and he was facing potential life in prison, right? >> reporter: trying to figure out what this means for his actual time in prison, it was telegraphed he would plead guilty. the excerpts came out in a documentary, the whole idea he couldn't get a fair trial because donald trump as a campaigner said a lot of things pre-judging the fate of that trial. what we know now, he's pleading guilty. the judge is asking him at this moment in the courtroom whether
or not he understands the implications of his plea. then we'll move to the sentencing side of it. >> so you have the bergdahl break being news happening now. and hans, i remember on the campaign trail the president repeatedly called him a traitor and had harsh words for him on the campaign trail. but let me go to what is happening out of iraq with the federal iraqi forces launching a major offensive aimed at retaking the city of kirkuk from the u.s. forces. this is a group of u.s. allies fighting with another group with the u.s. allies. the military says this is a misunderstanding, what does that mean? >> reporter: what you are clearly seeing from the u.s. military is an attempt to downplay what looked like live fire between two of its allies. you have the iraqi security forces trained in many parts by the united states army forces over there. then you have the kurdish force. the peshmerga moved in to fight isis and kicked isis out. now that isis is collapsing, and
a lot of places are collapsing much faster than had been expected. remember, the fight to take mosul happened a year ago this time. it started then as more and more of this iraq and syria cleared from isis' hands. you're going to see some questions about what comes next. and that is what this conversation is. here's a statement i want to put up on the screen of what we heard from the coalition forces in baghdad. this is from the u.s. side. these movements of military vehicles so far are coordinated movements, not attacks. this was a misunderstanding and not linked up under limited conditions. i spoke to officials moments ago who said there are public reports with a few day and a few casualties. the pentagon is not confirming the reports, but they have intelligence looking at it. these kind of reports indicate that they are chuting for effect. they are not shooting to kill. hallie? >> hans nichols at the white house wearing his hat in addition to pentagon
correspondent. back with me is michael allen, former majority staff director on the house intel committee as well as a special assistant to george w. bush. and we have zeke miller here, too. michael, you saw we were reading the statement together from the military that hans had, calling this a misunderstanding. clearly looking to downplay involvement. do you buy that? >> i don't buy it completely. i have heard reports that we are helping behind the scenes broker some sort of ideal way for them to get into kirkuk. it's the oil-rich region. >> 4% of the world's oil resources. >> isn't that amazing? >> yeah. >> the people in kirkur are the kurds coming down ornative arabs. and it sort of got an emotional feel like jerusalem is to different religions. everyone wants kirkuk and the iraqis want it to be an
iraqi-israeli institution and we want it back. >> they are also trying to gain independence, essentially. so you have tensions on the middle. what role does the church have in this? >> we want a strong centralized government in iraq. we are not excited about kyrgyzstan seceding. and we want the sunnis and shia to get along better. we are always on different sides of the arrangement here, but we want to get everybody together, have a strong centralized government. because you know what? political turmoil in the long term gets groups like isis the room to grow. and we are putting them back in a box now. >> and you have this territory, that have been captured from isis that now the groups are fighting over. so did anybody see this coming? >> this is a same sort of instability is that the weakening of the iraqi federal
government led to the rise of isis with violence there as well. for the trump administration, they have the problem of what comes next. but really, what comes next, as they go back through the plan, which will, that came into effect late in the bush administration. they are supporting the iraqi federal government. and even if they couldn't bridge this divide, could it be another cycle shaping up? or does the administration want to do something different? they have not articulated that, so that is something over the next couple of weeks they have to wait to hear. >> they have been so proud of the work they have established against isis and the fight against isis and the victors. and the fall of isis happening quicker in other places as hans mentioned. but you have the cycle, you have to be prepared for what happens next. so we may win isis and then something educational moves in. >> we talked about the region being oil-rich. is that what it comes down to? >> i think basically oil is what
these guys are after. that's why the kurds wanted to come in. and that is why the iraqis were so mad that the kurds took over an instable situation when isis rose to roll in there and take it over and now they are coming back at them. >> michael allen, thank you. and zeke and shannon, hang out for a couple more minutes longer. coming up next, we are starting a new series. democrats divided. our chris jansing talked to democrats out in the midwest angry with president trump, but they are also upset with their own party. we'll hear what they have to say. plus, the number two guy in charge of the party is here to talk about all of it with us.
so the 2018 midterms are just over a year already, if you can believe it. and we have taken a poll of democrats to see how they feel about their party and whether they feel like they can defeat republicans at the ballot box. this is the first installment of the series "dems divided" led by chris jansing joining me now. hi, chris. >> hi, there. >> you went out on the road and beyond the beltway to talk to these folks. tell me what you have found. >> reporter: you have seen the polls. and in america's heartland where frustration with donald trump is growing, there's no guarantee that's going to turn into democratic votes. and i think a big part of it is the key factor that got donald trump elected, that feeling by many americans that they are ignored by the establishment isn't being address in the way democrats would like to see it addressed. that's what we found when we sat
down in racine, wisconsin, with five voters fired up to oppose donald trump's policies. show of hands, how many think the democratic establishment is doing a good job right now up. one tentative hand. how many of you think the democrats could blow a real opportunity in 2018? >> i do. absolutely. >> all five of you. so what's going on that makes you feel that way? >> i think that there's a lack of understanding of what the message is, if there is one. >> i think holistically, the democrats need to listen more than they speak. >> just ignoring the fact that people need a reason to come out to vote. >> it is not enough to say, well, be it with marching with tiki torches and the president won't say anything about it, that's not enough. they don't feel like they have to work for anyone's vote. >> are you worried the party is
becoming the anti-trump party? >> it is easy to say trump voters and supporters are that, but that's my family, too. those are my people that i grew up with. >> i feel like instead of having a plan, we're putting out fires. instead of fighting for something, we are resisting. and this resistance has to turn into governance to have something to vote for instead of something to vote against. >> every day there's an attack on just basic human rights and dignity that, should we not respond, right? we have to, but we also need to respond with, this is what we need to do instead. this is where we should be going. >> democrats are good on social issues. but what are they doing economically to help people? economics come first. roof over my head, food on the table. >> but that is what people are fighting for, raising the minimum wage. >> but that's the problem, trump was saying, okay, i'm going to fix this and bring back jobs, but no democrat was saying that. >> and it is constant fear.
and the part tapping into that and realizes that and speaks to that isn't thinking these people are evil or racist or ignorant. they're speaking to base fears, give me a way out of that. you'll take the health care burden off me, that's a little less fear. a living wage, that's less fear, that's not just a policy to make us popular because everyone wants to make $15 an hour. it's because you are starving if you are not. >> this group and a lot of other democratic voters i have talked to over the course of the last month are concerned about intraparty divide, but also ultimately will that keep them from capitalizing on what is clearly a battle within the republican party. they have record or near record-low approval ratings for the president and gop congress, so they see opportunity, but clearly to me, hallie, what is the message? >> are democrats seizing on those opportunities? when you talk about messaging, chris, we are talking about economic issue, minimum wage, et
cetera. what else are they focused on? >> reporter: the environment is big, but looking at it overall, they feel like the big democratic party is focused on left coast, east coast, where the money centers are. and what is really happening in america, they don't think they've got the message of why donald trump got elected. >> chris jansing, thank you very much. for that report, we'll see you back on this program later in the week. to pick up where chris leftoff, we'll bring in dnc chair michael blake joining me now from up in new york. chris teed us up nicely for this. she said broadly the voters she's talking to feel like the democratic party, the dnc is focusing on west coast, east coast, neglecting folks in the middle do. you get the message? do you get why donald trump was elected? have you fully internalized that and understand that? >> absolutely. hallie, good to be with you. understanding that we will not
have the democratic party to say donald trump is that. everyone knows that trump and pence are bad. we are clear of telling them why we are good and convey the new dnc. >> but do you think, i'm sorry, but do you think you have been successful at that? what we heard over and over from the voters in the piece is we get the resistance message, but we're not getting what you're talking about, the proactive part of the message? >> the proactive part is happening on the ground across the country right now. you look at the special election victories we're having in oklahoma where we were able to pick up three special election seats that happened there. you look at in iowa, three election victories that happened there as well. you look at local race happening in racine tomorrow. so it's focusing from the statehouse to the white house and the school board to the city from city council to congress. so saying, we are going to fight for a better deal. a better do el to create jobs in communities. a better do el to make sure education is set up for. a better deal when it comes to health care. and saying very clearly on the ground we are doing 365-day organizing. you know, you talk to the voters out in wisconsin through the
chris jansing piece and see what happened. a lot of people didn't feel like we were fighting for them inm michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. >> and they still don't. >> we are demonstrating now, but it's not just about 2018. we are organizing now in 2017 to demonstrate the dnc is getting that message out on the ground in new jersey, in virginia n washington, all across the country right now. >> why do you think, michael, that the message has not trickled down to the people on the ground in wisconsin, who clearly are not seeing what you're talking about? >> i think, in large part, we are getting too distracted by the tweets and noise that is happening in these feeds. and our job it's to be to make sure we are communicating to people all over the country. chairman perez was in wisconsin engaging with the wisconsin democrats recently, to say we need people to be mobilizing on the ground. i was just recently in virginia
where you have 43 women running for office, democratic women running for office as delegates. the opportunities are happening on the ground. so what we have to do is continue to push directly to talk to people on the ground in all aspects and not rely on one means. >> is your point that democratic voters are distracted by the tweets? >> no, everyone has been distracted by a lot of noise. because of the destruction happening in d.c. when you have an administration not helping the people of puerto rico and the virgin islands across the board, and the pain people are going through, then it is hard to then see the collective message. so our job as the democratic party is saying, you know what? we understand the problems coming out of d.c., but to the point that was raised in the piece, we don't just want to talk about the problem, we want to talk about the positive. and that is our job of communicating that out now. >> two very quick questions before i have to let you go. this panel was asked who the leader of the democratic party
was and one said bernie sanders, and another said he's not a democrat. who is the leader of the democratic party? >> tom perez, the chairman of the dnc. tom and senator schumer and nancy pelosi, but all individuals are a part of this. looking at new jersey and virginia, the lieutenant governor races, we'll show more leaders in the democratic party as well. >> when we have seen the senate, we have seen joe biden go to campaign, there's a lot of pressure on tennessee, how much does the dnc plan to spend in the red states? is that worth it? >> it is. look at oklahoma with the sign of three seats we picked up. the collective, emerge, the demonstration is on the ground that we will have 365-day organizing. so we want people to go and make sure you are engaging in virginia, in washington, all the respective states. go to see how to be a part of the movement in 2018. >> thank you for being here,
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weary, as wildfires burn much of wine country. look at the pictures of exhausting firefighters, trying to catch a nap on a lawn chair. some literally using rocks as pillows, trying to catch a little bit of shut eye whenever they can. at least 40 people are dead. dozens more missing. nbc's steve patterson is live in santa rosa, california. the firefighters have been going after the fires non-stop more than a week. the back drop of your live shot, the scene, burned down houses, is everywhere in this region. >> reporter: literally everywhere i can see right now, hallie. i mean, there is no relief in sight, but there is hope. however, walking around here, you won't see much of it. i mean, you know, we hate to keep showing these images to our viewers, but it is important to the context of what we're talking about. the level of destruction here is unbelievable. i mean, you look out past me, this is somebody's home. everywhere is somebody's home.
or the wreckage of what used to be. now we're looking at basically a neighborhood of chimneys. it is really the only thing that is standing after a blaze like this tears through a neighborhood like this. this is santa rosa, california. talking about 2,800 homes and properties destroyed. the most destruction out of all of this. this city was a wasteland after the fire tore through here. 400,000 commercial square feet of real estate up in smoke. as you mentioned, progress is being made. this weekend was significant for firefighters. they're finally talking in ways in which we never thought they'd talk. they've turned a corner. they have the upper hand. the two biggest fires burning, the atlas fire and the tubbs fire, those caused the most damage, the most death, caused the most people to be missing. those fires are both at 60% containment.
that is a huge number. huge statistic for firefighters that are now sleeping in tent cities. for firefighters that have been battling the blazes for 24 hours straight around the clock. we spoke to some of them on the front line about how they're doing, how they're keeping up with all of this. listen to this. >> we're going to probably end up sleeping in one of these dirt lots here at base camp. we're grateful for any sleep. woer n we're not complaining. after a 24-hour shift on, all it takes is a dirt path, and you're happy with that. >> reporter: you see this car charred out. another example of the level of devastation. people now starting to come back to their homes. still, 75,000 people under evacuation orders. as they come back, they'll see scenes like this. another heartbreaking stage in all of this. hallie. >> steve patterson, thank you very much. quickly, guys, the president tweets about a lot of stuff. you've got the wildfires out west. haven't heard much from him about that. >> not yet. it's one of those things, we
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we are back, as always, with today's big picture. we're headed to somalia, where a deadly attack rocked the country this weekend. this is a somali man in the capital, hands on his head as he walks away from a destroyed building. a truck bomb exploded over the weekend, killing at least 300 people. with hundreds more hurt in one of the worst terrorist attacks in somalia's history. al shabaab, associated with al qaeda, is believed to be behind this but there's not been an official claim of responsibility yet. the group said it'd step up its attacks earlier this year after the trump administration and somalia's new president announced new military efforts against them. the photographer here for the ap. love to hear your thoughts, as
always, on facebook, twitter and snapchat. as usual, the monday instagram takeover. i'll be doing it on the way down to duke university to talk with folks there about what it is like to cover the trump white house. i will see you back here tomorrow morning. in the meantime, i'll toss it over to ali velshi and stephanie ruhle. >> good morning, everybody. >> nono aal -- no ali? >> my colleague, ali shevelshi, will be joining us in a moment. he is getting his hair done. >> the president's relationship with key members of his administration and party. >> i would urge the president to remember that every single word that he says matters. >> if we don't cut taxes and we don't eventually repeal and replace obamacare, then we're going to lose across the board in the house in 2018. >> right now, it is a season of war against a gop