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in new york. day 272 of the trump administration. and we begin tonight with a story that wasn't a story until donald trump made it one. it's actually more than that by now. it's deeply disturbing to most folks because it involves something all folks regard as sacred, the loss of our men and women in uniform and the gold star family members they leave behind. first, the president compared his handling of gold star families to his predecessors and made false claims by doing so about president obama. then last night came the story of the condo lessons telephone call he made to the widow of u.s. army sergeant la david jop son, who was killed in an ambush in niger in africa earlier this month. johnson's widow is 24. they have two young children. she is expecting in three months. and about that telephone call, it was placed two weeks after this ambush killed four u.s. service members and wounded two
others. florida democratic congresswoman frederica wilson was with the family in the car during the call. listened on speerng phone. this is what she says happened. >> he said well, i guess -- something to the effect that he knew what he was getting into when he signed up, but i guess it hurts anyway. you know, just matter-of-factly that this is what happened to anyone who is signing up for military duty is signing up to die. she was in tears. and she said he didn't even remember his name. >> that comment today got a straight up denial from the president and a vague threat that he has evidence to the contrary. >> didn't say what that congresswoman said. didn't say it at all. she knows it and she now is not saying it. had a very nice conversation with the woman, with the wife, who sounded like a lovely woman.
did not say what the congresswoman said. and most people aren't too surprised to hear that? let her make her statement again and then you'll find out. >> well, congresswoman wilson did repeat her statement. she said this on twitter. quote, i still stand by my account of the call between donald trump and mrs. johnson. that's her name, mr. trump, not the woman or the wife. if the president has proof of the contrary, he didn't offer it today. and the woman who raised la david johnson was also in the car and heard the call. well, today she said it's all true, telling the "washington post," quote, president trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband. with that let's bring in our lead-off panel tonight making rare visits to our new york studio, starting with philip rucker, kimberly atkins, out in
wisconsin, where he is best put to work is our friend charlie sykes, long-time conservative radio host. these days an author. good evening and welcome to you all. and mr. rucker, your headline story that you coauthored for the "washington post" really says it all today. 12 days of silence. and that's the first puzzle. after these four souls, four of our very best were killed, why nothing from the white house? the pentagon did react, but back to the headline, 12 days of silence, then a swipe at obama. how trump handled four dead soldiers. i want you to talk about this and beyond how the post reported out the experiences of other gold star families. >> yeah. well, remember that rose garden event that the president had with reporters on monday afternoon. he was actually asked why he hadn't commented for 12 straight days on this incident. it's the deadliest combat incident since he became president, and that's when he became defensive and started to
bring up this contrast with obama and that began this whole conversation that we're having now. i'll tell you will a little bit what the post was reporting today, there's a family who lost a son in war in june and trump called the father and offered $25,000 as a personal check to help the family. they said told the post this week that they never received that money. coincidentally today the white house has announced that the check is in the mail. so i think that reporting bore some fruit for this family. but in addition, my colleagues at the post have been trying to interview all of the families, members of the people who have died in duty since trump became president. there are about 20 of them. they've interviewed 13 and only half of them have received phone calls from the president. remember, the president said on monday that he calls all of these family members. >> kimberly, this is getting litigated and relitigate in public conversation on shows like this one here tonight. is all on the white house. >> it is. it is. i mean, the initial question he
was asked was why hadn't he commented about this mission? he himself brought up these families, these gold star families and the way he talks -- he contacts them and, you know, as if it was some sort of contest with previous presidents in the way that he did it. that's what struck the sour note from the beginning, and he has not let this go. i mean, its one thing -- we know the president is a counter puncher and we saw him counter punching at congresswoman wilson today. but at what goal? it's one thing to counter punch because you want to repeal obamacare. it's one thing to counter punch, even to gin up his base. but to use these gold star families that are grieving. that video of mrs. johnson today was just so heartbreaking how you could keep this going after seeing that, there's just no political goal here. there's no win, and we know that he likes to get wins. >> charlie sykes, i want to play a brief clip from a mutual friend of ours, jack jacobs, one
of 72 living recipients of the medal of honor. he was on msnbc this afternoon and was asked about all of it. >> to reduce the exchange between a president of the united states and a widow of a slain warrior to a public spec is not only the height of inhe want tud, like i said, it speaks to an ignorance that's extremely difficult to find anywhere else in public life. >> charlie, that's stuff to watch, especially for those of us who know jack. this entire subject made people feel angry, sad, vaguely ill, especially today across this country. >> you know, the whole story is tragic and it's of course totally self-inflicted. george will earlier on this air said, you know, just remember that donald trump has, you know, barely -- is barely on speaking terms with the english language. but what i do think is very
clear is that donald trump does not speak the language of empathy. and, you know, we weren't in that car. we didn't hear the conversation, but obviously -- and by the way, i think the initial account should have been treated perhaps with some skepticism s. here you have the enter ak of the credibility gap and the empathy gap for this president particularly now that the mother is speaking out. it is incomprehensible that the president would have gone 12 days without commenting on this at a time when he was tweeting endlessel about the nfl. it's incomprehensible except in trump world for him then to be asked about it and then to make false statements about the way other presidents had in fact handled it. and it's really unconscionable that then defensibleel he plit sizes the death of general kelly's son, something that general kelly has gone out of his way to keep out of politics. a very deeply, private personal event. so take all of that with his tone deaf conversation with this
widow, and you have a really revealing and sad moment for the president but also for the country and for the men and women who serve this country. >> yeah. this is one of the few things we have traditionally and should hold sacred. philip, charlie just talked about general kelly. that was kind of the second movement in this. it came up at the white house briefing today. this is an exchange between our season peered alexander and sarah huckabee sanders. >> is general kelly comfortable -- >> i think general kelly is disgusted by the way that this has been politicized and that the focus has become on the process and not the fact that american lives were lost. i think he's disgusted and frustrated by that. if he has any anger, it's towards that. >> i guess it's the fault of the media given that reading. >> and yet it's the president who brought up general kelly's son. you know, it's been six or seven years since his son died in the
line of duty. general kelly is a gold star parent and he has gone out of his way to try to avoid making his son's death part of our political discoursement he doesn't want any special attention paid, and he doesn't want this to be politicized and he's made that clear in his public remarks and in the speech that he gave a few years ago. and so for the president to invoke this as a defense in a political tit for tat with president obama, you know, kelly hasn't spoken for himself, but i can't imagine it sits very well with the general. >> kimberly, this isn't the first time the president has failed to let something like a military uniform or military standing or heroism in the military stand between him and a good bought with someone. >> this is true. this goes back to the campaign with the kahns who he openly feuded with during the campaign. and perhaps he feels a sense of invincibility from that.
obviously that didn't keep him from being elected president. but i just -- i think this is one of the latest episodes where, you know, the point that charlie made about empathy, that was the main point about his trims, for example, to puerto rico when he's to saying toilet paper. he says a crowd in the room cheering and he thinks he's doing a good job when he's not talking about the dozens of people who lost their lives, countless people who lost their homes. that's the disconnect there and it doesn't seem to register with him. and i think whenever we're dealing with issues involving grief, devastation, involving some sort of loss, that's where his achille's heel is. >> you just wrote a book about the deepening clooef in american politics. there you are, thank goodness, in america. i have to ask you, how is this issue going to fall? do we agree on any one thing anymore? and why can't that one thing be the treatment and the sacrifice of gold star families?
>> if there is one thing that we still believe in, this would be it. if there's a ven diagram between the left and the right, this would be the overlap, but again, i think the real scandal here is that once again, donald trump has taken something that ought to unite us, that we ought to have similar reactions to, and what has he done? he's made it about himself. he made this whole thing about himself and how he handled it as opposed to the focus on those men and their mission and what they did and the need of the family. and i think, you know, we've become accustomed to that, but i don't think we should become numb to that. >> philip rucker, you know what we in the media are like. you also know something about the president's power to end this like that. probably with a tweet, even better with a statement. we'll move on to the next thing. but that doesn't happen here either. why? >> it doesn't. and in part it's because of the president's instinct to always want to punch back when he feels
like he's on the defensive or under siege as he is this week, he wants to get another shot. he wants to win. he wants to -- >> as you said, that's who started this. >> and we saw this -- we also saw this with john mccain when he attacked and mocked the war service of john mccain, vietnam war hero, prisoner of war. we saw him with this sort of attitude the second day he became president when he went to the cia headquarters and stood before that wall where the 50 stars are of the members who died and made it all about himself and his inaugural crowds and his war with the media. and so he's just so focused on winning these battles that i don't think he fully kprends the magnitude of what he's doing. >> kimberly, to the question i always end up asking you, what part of the trump agenda advanced today between the white house and capitol hill? >> not much. it seemed to go the other way. we're talking about this, this awful story, but at the same time the prospect of bipartisan
hell care reform seems to fall, the fix to make health care affordable to all americans seemed to have died at the urging of president trump who put that down. so, you know, we are at another legislative stand still while we are, you know, unfortunately doing political analysis about how gold star families should be treated. >> our thanks tonight to philip rucker, kimberly atkins and to charlie sykes. his new book, by the way, is how the right lost its mind. we're so fortunate that charlie did not amid all of this. thank all three of you. still ahead tonight, we'll go to our first break. attorney general jeff sessions on capitol hill under oath and today a surprising answers from a trump stalwart. that and much more. we're just getting started. the wednesday edition of the 11th hour.
have you been interviewed or been requested to be interviewed by the special counsel, either in connection with director comey's firing, the russia investigation or your own contact with russian officials? >> well, i'd be pleased to answer that. i'm not sure i should without clearing that with the special counsel. what do you think? >> i'm just asking, have you been interviewed? >> no. >> let's call that one of the coy moments from today. attorney general jeff sessions
testifying before the senate judiciary committee today. he did not answer many of the questions, especially about the firing of fbi director james comey, citing confidentiality. we'll get more on that in a moment. in his conversations with the president, but he did offer this answer. >> specifically what was your designated role in the decision to fire director comey? >> it is -- it's a matter that i can share some information about because the president himself has talked about it and reveal that letter. he asked that deputy rosenstein and i make our recommendations in writing. we prepared those recommendations and submitted it to the president. senator feinstein, i don't think it's been fully understood the
significance of the error that mr. comey made on the clinton matter. >> critical answer there. more on that in just a moment. now, as for the president, he wrote about comey on twitter today for the first time in 47 days, an eternity. here is the quote. as it has turned out, jails comey lied and leaked and totally protected hillary clinton. he was the best thing that ever happened to her. joining us tonight from washington, michael crowley, national security editor at politico and ken vogue el, new york times political reporter. two of the very best minds on this story. michael, back to that second bit of sound from a.g. sessions, that excuse for firing comey has long been superseded when the boss told lester holt it was because of russia. >> yeah. over taken by events. obe, i guess, as people say. and even the original excuse,
brian, didn't make a lot of sense. i think there were people who were, you know, willing to believe, okay, if trump came in and on day one said comey, i hated the way you handled that thing. a lot of people said, even some democrats said the way you handled the hillary investigation was inappropriate, you're out of here. that would be one thing. but he does it after the russia investigation is well under way, and trump realizes how much jeopardy he's in. and that, of course, was just an incredibly strange and now for trump really foolish thing to have done. but you finger your right on it which is compounding all of this is the fact that sessions seems not to have the most updated version of events in his testimony, and it's a little hard to explain that except to say that the truth of what the president has really said is very uncomfortable for him to relate and he probably would prefer to believe it's not the
case, i suppose. >> so, ken, two-part question for you. did you find that surprising that the a.g. is running on perhaps david's software? and if not that, what was your nugget from today, your take away? >> well, certainly that was a bit puzzling that he was essentially asked to, you know, write this recommendation to give trump cover for something that trump wanted to do anyway. trump then admitted that he wanted to do it anyway and the recommendation was just cover. so they're having trouble getting their stories straight here. but the sort of discord nance does get at really the discomfort within the white house about this key issue, the firing of james comey, which is in many ways the center of at least one part of the mueller investigation, that is this question of whether trump himself and the trump administration sought to obstruct justice in the investigation by getting rid of james comey. of course, trump blames jeff sessions for the appointment of robert mueller, the special
counsel. he thinks that if sessions hadn't recused himself, he wouldn't be in all this trouble because he wouldn't have mueller breathing down his neck. as far as the other take away that i thought was interesting, i think this question of executive privilege, which we heard jeff sessions sort of point to without actually invoking several times. this is going to be key in the sort of tactics of the trump white house's defense, whether and when they seek to invoke executive privilege in answering questions from mueller. we know thanks to a conversation that i overheard at blt steak, that there is some disagreement within the trump legal team about to what extent they should be relying on executive privilege. but certainly jeff sessions in his testimony today did nothing to disabuse us of the perception that this will be a potentially important part of the trump team's defense. >> all those matters mr. vogue yell just mentioned are precisely why we have a crack watergate lawyer in our next segment. so michael, i don't mean this to
sound sarcastic. it's been 47 days. think of what we have been through, we and the united states and the number of niece taken at the number of nfl games for starters. 47 days since the last trump tweet on comey. why now? why today, i wonder? >> well, because comey's firing is front and center again with jeff sessions testifying, and the key -- one of the key issues that the senators are asking the attorney general about was the circumstances around comey's firing. and so, you know, trump as we know, is watching television, and comey is back again and he's on the president's mind. and so now trump is reverting -- i mean, trump as well is reverting to this hillary clinton context for the comey firing. it would seem to be the implication of that tweet and not the interview with lester holt that you referenced earlier.
so that's another zig-zag. but, you know, it's striking to me -- ken mentioned the executive privilege issue. and i do think that it's -- that is an interesting moment because there is a school of thought in the trump team that says you want to show as much cooperation as possible with the investigation. you want to get, you know, get this over with as fast as you can and signal that you have nothing to hide, among other things, at least the line coming from the trump camp of course is that he has nothing to hide, he did nothing wrong. these indications of executive privilege clearly do suggest to many observers that they are heighting something. i saw the aclu tweeted today echos of watergate. and the more that trump officials take this line, the more there is going to be suspicion. and by the way, i don't think that the trump team has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these matters because their stories have changed
repeatedly. so i think there is sort of warranted suspicion whenel sessions takes a tack like that. >> all right. ken, i call on you again as an splarn, don't make me take this to the lawyers in the next segment. what is the difference between or the concert between a hearing like the one we saw today, the concurrent hearings going on on the house side, and something like the mueller, which seems to be the overarching mueller investigation? >> well, the hearing today was technically an oversight hearing. the senate judiciary committee has oversight of the justice department with jeff session as attorney general is the head of. so conceivablyel they could be asking about anything. they can be asking -- they did ask about other subjects, including the enforcement of -- or the protection -- democrats asked about protection for the lgbt community and whether sessions was doing anything to sort of dial back the protections and the drug
enforcement, opioid crisis. we heard a number of questions about that as well. then you have the senate judiciary committee at the same time being one of several committees that's investigating various aspects of the trump team's relationships with russia and, you know, they in particular are looking at the foreign agents registration act and whether there are any violations there with paul manafort, mike flynn. those investigations, as well as the house and senate intelligence committee investigations, they overlap certainly to some extent with mueller. the difference between the congressional investigations and mueller, mueller has the real power. >> this is why i intrusioned you as it two of the best minds on this story. gentlemen, our everlasting thanks to michael crowley and ken vogue yell. thank you both. another break. up next, what jeff sessions' today could mean for the president. now, here again, legally, along with the mueller investigation. that discussion when the 11th hour continues.
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attorney general jeff sessions appeared for five hours in front of the senate judiciary committee today, all the while robert mueller and his team continued their investigation of their own. also on capitol hill today, nbc news confirms senate intelligence committee staffers have interviewed former trump campaign manager cory lewandowski on the russia investigation.
with us now, our legal panel here to talk about it tonight. jill wine-banks, ken did he laneian. so, ken, you'll get the first one tonight. what was your take-away from soup to nuts, all of the sessions testimony, including some of the nonanswers? >> well, brian, i was first struck that jeff sessions' story seems to have evolved once again about whether he had substantive conversations with any russians with particularly russian ambassador kislyak. he started out saying to the senate committee that he had no contacts with russians. he then changed the story to yes, i did have contact but we didn't have any substantive discussions about the campaign. today he seemed to open the door. he said he couldn't recall or couldn't rule out that he had some discussions about foreign policy issues which as al frank encan be campaign issue. so that was an interesting
take-away. the other thing that struck me is jeff sessions was just simply unwilling to talk about his discussions with the president. and he wouldn't answer the question about whether president trump told him that he fired fbi director james comey in order to get rid of the russia investigation. now, i understand, you know, that he is trying to reserve the right to assert executive privilege, but it seems to me he could have found a way to communicate to congress in some fashion that president trump didn't make that inappropriate request or statement in his presence and he wasn't able to do that today, brian. >> ken, in plain english, it was just so weird. he was a talking point behind, because you remember when the story came out we were running around, comey just got fired, and when we looked at the statement, the why seemed to be he was mean to hillary clinton. >> yeah. and very far people believe that at the time, brian, and it quickly became inoperable when he told lester holt, obviously, as you said before, that russia was on his mind when he fired
donald trump -- so it was so strange to hear jeff sessions bringing that up today and saying people really don't understand how badly comey blew the hillary clinton thing. but donald trump with his tweet this morning eviscerated that argument again by making it clear that he thought that comey was protecting hillary clinton. so, you know, if that's -- if mueller is looking at whether donald trump put up a bogus story about the comey firing, donald trump didn't help himself with that tweet today. >> okay, counselor. all these claims of confidentiality for his conversations with the president of the united states made by the attorney general. can he do that? and can he be compelled all the times he decided to take the pitch and step out of the batterer's box, can he compelled to answer at some other forum? >> well, first let me say i agree completely with what ken said on all of your questions in the first part. and yes, he can be compelled, but the question is will he?
and the answer to that is probably not, because the republicans control the committee. and they are not likely to try to force him. he cannot sort of pretend to be claiming executive privilege. only the president can do that. and the president has not done that. and as you pointed out, that would make him look guilty, so he doesn't want to do that. and sessions is just sort of pretending like well, i have to protect my rights and not answer the questions. and that's wrong. that is just wrong. and if they were discussing anything that was criminal, which would include a false reason for firing comey, then he can't do it. that would be invalid. >> ken delaneian, if you're mueller, either one of the hill committees, what does a conversation with cory lewandowski get you? remind us all the way that spreads out in fragments overall these stories that have become
central to the russia issue? >> right, brian. cory lewandowski was the campaign manager who was fired in june rs but he's maintained a relationship with the trump organization and he's opened a rather successful lobbying operation in washington based on his access to donald trump and his people. so he knows a lot. now, we don't know exactly what they were talking to him about. we don't know why robert mueller might be interested in him. and to me what that underscores is we think we know quite a bit about these investigations because constantly hearing about different witnesses and document, but there's really so much that we don't know. there's so much evidence that robert mueller is amassing that we don't have any idea about. so many angles that he's pursuing that we don't have visibility on. and it's going to become a day when it's revealed and it's going to be a fascinating day. >> jill, what do you make of all the available tea leaves on the mueller investigation? i was stunned that we learned allegedly topics and questions during their session with sean spicer, but i always ask you,
knowing what you know, where do you think we are? >> i think we're proceeding at a good clip and that we're going to have to be patient. everyone keeps asking me why is it taking so long? and i keep pointing out it's only been five months since mueller was appointed and it takes a long time to develop a case. as you just said, we don't know everything that mueller knows. we don't know what angles he's pursuing because witness a may have said something that he wants to confirm with lewandowski or with sean spicer. and so we just have to be patient to find out how all of the pieces fit together in this puzzle. and that's what it's going to take is all of the pieces being put together, because you really need a strong case if you're going to proceed against the president. and you don't want to leave any piece out of place. >> point of personal privilege. i want to show our audience how cagey a lawyer jill wine-banks is. beneath her unaassuming gold pin
tonight is a flag rant effort to campaign for the chicago cubs. we do not allow election eerg or wagering on this broadcast. i'll allow it just this time, but you've been found out about, jill. >> oh, thank you. go cubs. >> all right. proud chicagoen and terrific lawyer. our thanks. thank you both. another break in our broadcast. coming up, former cia director john brennan with a stark new warning on north korea and what the rest of the world sees in his eyes when they watch donald trump. >> i think people wonder whether or not, you know, he's truly being mack valleyian on some of these issues or he's just being reckless. hi, i'm the internet!
wonder if our president is reckless. he spoke at fordham university here in new york tonight. he talked about north korea, isis, the russia investigation. our own andrea mitchell was there and at one point took part in the questioning. as one of the headline from this event is contained in the answer brennan gave her. >> is it your theory of the case that there was some connection between the campaign and the russian -- >> that's a hypothetical. >> yes. >> the russians are very sophisticated observers of the american political scene. we have been their principle adversary and nemesis for many, many years. i think almost anything is in the realm of the possible when it comes to how russia was able to take advantage of the u.s. environment to pursue this campaign of interference in the election. and i still don't know the extent of it. i still don't know how
successful they were in maybe getting people to work with them. i know that that is part of their mo. were they successful in maybe cultivating this relationship with some? it's hard for me to believe that the russians, as good as they are accident as sophisticated as they are, a program like this, were not able to get to some americans to cooperate with them, either wittingly or unwittingly. i find it implausible. >> here with us in new york, our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. >> thank you. >> full disclosure, andrea was on the fordham campus tonight. we get a phone call saying clear the runway, we've got to air this stuff tonight because this was notable. tell us about that last answer. >> well, he's saying it is implausible to think that there weren't americans helping the russians with the microtargeting. >> basically the campaign.
>> exactly. and as well as the russians have studied us and we are the thing that they study, for them to get into these districts in wisconsin and michigan and figure out how to divide our country, how to divide our people, and he talked also about how it has divided our country. and it's hurt us domestically and internationally. >> north korea was another subject i was interested to hear what he said on that tonight. >> well, he said, in fact, that he is very concerned about the tweets, about hurlg insults back and forth because for the first time kim jong-un after the president's u.n. speech went on camera. no north korean leader, not his father, grandfather has ever gone on television and made a statement and answered directly to the united states. it's always the tv presenter, the propaganda lady in the pink dress, you know. >> yeah. >> you've seen the image. so this is what he had to say about that and it was very ominous. >> i've said that i think the prospects for military conflicts
on the korean peninsula are greater than they've been in several decades. i don't think it's likely or probable, but, you know, if it's a one in four, one in five chance, that's too high. and we need to do everything possible -- >> is that -- is that where you'd rate the chances? >> well, yeah, i guess i would. >> 25% chance of a military conflict in the korean peninsula in the coming.com aides. that's what you heard from the experienced intelligence analyst and columnist. >> from our viewers watching us tonight, remind us in plain english. what's the book on brennan? what's his reputation? >> straight shooter and he was also, by the way, i asked about the military families and he said he was very closely with three presidents, served six presidents. went into the cia in is the 80. was stationed chief in saudi arabia. understands yemen well. this man knows his stuff and was
very offended by what the president did on day two of his presidency, going in front of the memorial wall and speaking of the intelligence community in such disparaging ways. but that said, he said he had worked closely with bill clinton, with george w. bush and with barak obama, that they viewed dealing with the military grieving families, gold star families with the greatest rev ens and he was very deeply disturbed by what -- he said that god bless mattis, kelly and joe dunford for being there and for being governors, monitoring. >> wow. >> the president of the united states. he's very, very concerned. >> i've always thought brennan, and i mean this as i compliment, has the bearing of a north carolina city presipgt captain. >> i think he'd be brought of that. he went to fordham, by the way. it's no accident that he's back there on that campus. and just very briefly, mueller has not requested an interview. he'd be happy to be interviewed if he's asked and it was brennan's cia that first
referred this whole case in july of 2016 to the fbi and the fbi men, the best in the business, have been following the money ever since. but frustrated senators and congress members, the democrats at least on the intelligence committees are really hitting a brick wall on this thing. and they are hoping that they can -- that either mueller or somebody will come forward and get the goods. >> thanks for calling in to headquarters tonight. as always, good to see you, andrea. >> thank you. >> coming up, more on these gold star parents we've been talking about. they lost their son, this pair did, being ba in may. they are what this entire discussion is all about. we will hear from two powerful and profound parents when we come back. hi, i'm the internet! you know what's difficult? adulting...
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waiting and hoping that one of the helicopters overhead might be the one that brings them relief supplies. wondering if today is that day when their lives start to get better. put it this way. think of the federal effort that would be launched if 1 million american citizens here on the mainland were suddenly without fresh drinking water. and yet, that's the case in puerto rico. one reporter today said, much of the island looks like the storm was yesterday and not a month ago. a disaster specialist here in new york, john mudder of columbia university, said, quote, in puerto rico, it doesn't look like we've learned anything at all, or we just don't care. here's to those who are there, military and civilian, especially those who paid their own way to go there and volunteer and help. they are doing the hard work. thank goodness that resourcefulness and resilience have always been attributes of the people of puerto rico. that is our broadcast for this wednesday night. thank you so very much for being here with us.
good night, from nbc news headquarters here in new york. tonight on "all in." >> they're going to cut me off so i want to ask you some questions. >> jeff sessions meets the senate. >> mr. chairman i don't have to sit here and listen to his -- >> you're the one who testified -- >> -- charges. >> attorney general grilled for the first time in months over the russians, obstruction, and the mueller investigation. >> have you been interviewed by them? >> senator amy clob shar was there and she joins me tonight. then -- >> didn't say what that congresswoman said. didn't say it at all. >> the new jaw dropping report that president trump aurved a