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events from men reluctant to take the stage during the trump presidency. and on capitol hill, the senate approves the budget paving the way for $1.5 trillion in tax cuts, but still no answers how to pay for it. details are coming up. but we begin with the latest on the growing pressure to find answers in the investigation into the deaths of four americans in niger. we have reports from the pentagon and the white house. we begin with nbc news pentagon correspondent hans nichols. and "the wall street journal" is reporting that the fbi has now joined the investigation. what can you tell us? >> well, nbc news has confirmed according to military official that is the fbi has joined the investigation. this is a formal investigation along with other investigations that are taking place. when the military looks into something that went this badly, they look at it from a variety of different angles. they need to know the result of the four deaths of the u.s. soldiers in niger.
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this happened around dusk. it was on tuesday, october 4th. you had several groups, but basically around a dozen u.s. soldiers. some of them were in their vehicles, others had been separated. they went to go to the village. when they are at the village coming back out of that village, that's when they were ambushed and came under heavy fire, rpgs, machine guns, you had this from this group that is likely linked with isis. a much larger group. 30 minutes into it, you have french fighters that appear overhead. they did not drop ammunitions. then you have two separate medivacs. the first medivac for american casualties done by french super pumas and then the evacuation of the american dead actually happened by an american contractor. now, we have sort of been talking to a lot of folks at the pentagon, was somebody left behind? they are disputing that and saying he was separated. this is david johnson, the fourth found 48 hours later. listen to what general mackenzie said yesterday disputing this notion that the u.s. leaves
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anyone behind. >> nothing could be further from the truth. and that is an important myth that needs to be corrected now, i think. >> reporter: did i hear you correctly that american troops stayed on the battlefield the entire time until sergeant johnson's body was recovered? >> within the battle space, either american or nigerian or french and in some cases all three at the same time were engaged in active searches. >> reporter: it just so happens that the french minister of defense is visiting the pentagon today. secretary mattis will be meeting with her in about an hour and a half. be really clear and interesting to hear what secretary mattis says, likely thanking his counterpart. the french are so involved in west africa and so important in this. there's going to be a big push from the pentagon to stress the importance of the u.s./french relations stamping out and building partner coalition forces all throughout west africa. chris? >> hans nichols at the pentagon, thank you for that. i'm joining by former navy
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s.e.a.l. and author of the book "one mission: how leaders build a team of teams." thank you for joining us. you have spent ground in africa and come at us with a perspective more so than the rest of us. talk about the challenges the soldiers faced in niger? >> it is important to know these have been going on for nearly ten years. and it has been a smaller group of troops trying to interact with different problems around the continent. these sorts of operations are a balance between risk to force and how much presence on the ground is there. this is why we have special operations forced out there on the ground conducting these types of operations, in what is
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naturally a hostile and high-risk environment. >> lawmakers have been frustrated because they have not gotten answers to a lot of the questions they have. why has it been hard to get more details about what happened? and what are the key questions, i guess, that you still have? >> the flow of information is going to be difficult. this is and undeveloped program area. the military is not going to hide information. what they want to do is get accurate information. more isolated regions with a smaller footprint, that isolation flow doesn't happen as much as it would in a developed area. night after tight in a temple for many years like you would have the units on the ground. how much of a, you know, a force
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protection environment do we want to create for soldiers on the ground? >> i understand those are important questions going forward, but for the family members and people entrusted by the american people on these committees of congress to look at these things, it is important to know exactly what happened here. how long do you think that might take? and will we get clear answers? >> i would be very confident clear answers come through. but i'm not super confident what is happening behind closed doors. the last thing you want to do is correct yourself. to your point, there are real lives involved here, real families that deserve answers. so we want to make sure they are clear from the military perspective before going back to the families. >> chris, former navy s.e.a.l., we honor your service and appreciate it today. >> thank you. as the investigation continues, there's been another
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war of words over the president's condolence call to the widow of sergeant johnson. clearly the president isn't letting this go. >> reporter: he's not and it's a new day here at the white house. the president is about to have his daily intelligence briefing, but he used twitter as he so often does to express his feelings about this late last night. and the president was responding to the criticism that he had taken for the content of his phone call with the widow and family. and then, of course, we saw the intervening act of the chief of staff here, general john kelly, coming into the briefing room, trying to give context and extent of what he thought this would be. and the congresswoman was in the phone call when the president called because it was on speaker
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and she was in the car. when there is criticism directed at the president, she shoots back, he shoots back. he says, the fake news is going crazy with wacky congresswoman wilson who was secretly on a very personal call and gave a total lie on content. so in that tweet, you see the president wanting to point out she's a democrat, as if that is a political motive, and saying it was his expectation that he was only speaking to the widow. mrs. johnson. because he says secretly. so you get a sense of the president's prickliness about this pushing back. now, john kelly also said he thought it was unusual for a member of congress to be a part of a call, but there's the back story of congresswoman johnson being a friend of the family. this is a case where he could have left it alone and let john kelly really sort of try to bring this to a more quiet conclusion, but late at night last night in the 11:00 hour
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push back. and in times of branding someone as an adversary with a derisive nickname, he refers to her as the wacky congresswoman wilson. chris? >> i think we should point, this was a speakerphone call to the woman who was his mother since the death of his biological mother was listening to that call with other family members. so it was, as you say, something with a back story about why multiple hemoheard this -- back story about why this congresswoman heard this phone call. john kelly is usually pretty private and has come out to do what some people would argue was a rescue mission, a political rescue mission for this administration. i am not suggesting in any way that john kelly wanted to do anything, but as someone who has
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given his life to service to this country, to make clear exactly what he did make clear yesterday, but we know the backstory to this. was it, in essence, from the white house perspective, a political mission? >> we know john kelly was not happy about the president envoking the death of kelly's son and the fact that kelly had told the president in what he thought was confidence that he hadn't received a call from president obama as a condolence call. he clarified when he spoke yesterday that he had not intended that as a disparagement of president obama, but rather he was just offering an explanation of the way previous presidents have handled it. but what we saw yesterday was really a moment of poignancy in a presidency that has had so little so far. it seemed like a rescue mission working, for the most part. there was a broad reaction and emotional reaction to kelly's words and then the president had
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to jump in and have the last word. >> but reaction again to john kelly, not necessarily to this president to then call a congresswoman wacky. and it seems that john kelly essentially said, these are the words that were used for me when my son died. this is what i was told. i recounted it in a conversation with the president saying n a way, the opposite of what the president said, he did say those words. >> and there was an implicit review to trump when he made reference to politicizing or talking about gold-star families at last year's conventions, who was doing the talking. it was very much donald trump creating that whole atmosphere there. so i think john kelly is trying to add dignity to the situation that is kind of fundamentally undignified in the way that first the president compared
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himself to others. i don't think that the congresswoman has bathed herself in glory in this either. i think the reason that you say she's a democrat, she's kind of acting like a democrat here. she's definitely hitting the president and it feels like there's a little extra partisan kick to her hit. i think what john kelly was trying to do, there's dignity involved and the ultimate sacrifice involved. let's try to reject this based on the tweet he gave, but understandably, families in these situations want answers, loved ones want answers. it is the job of the oversight committees to get answers. how much pressure is on the white house to the pentagon to get the answers? >> i think the pressure is mounting. we saw senator mccain call for potential subpoenas for
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information related to what happened. so sergeant david johnson and his comrades overseas. and the longer it takes for the answers to come, the more pressure on this, we expect the military to be forthcoming on this and tell the american people what happened here. i think the issue is, what is the timeline? how reasonable is it for there to be this kind of delay, mat, in getting the answers? >> for me, a question i would like to see more people ask is, what are we doing in niger to begin with? >> that was his point, right? >> we have special forces in 70% of the world and treat that as a default. i don't think that is necessarily something to treat as a default. there should be authorizations for the use of military force where we are using military force. and we don't have that right now. generally speaking throughout the world.
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this is an opportunity to ask those questions, why are we or in so many ways to become deadly. do we have a deal? after all the talk, some action last night on the hill getting tax reform and tax can you wants one step closer to the presidency's desk. the step taken and what it means for you is straight ahead. shawn evans: it's 6 am.
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gary cohn said he can't guarantee that the middle class won't see their taxes go up, can you make the garden dee? >> when we get the numbers, which will be finalized in a matter of days, then we'll put the bill out. >> gary cohn said he can't make that. >> i don't know why he says that. this is about lowering people's taxes. >> house speaker paul ryan this morning not exactly giving overall assurances that the republican plan to reform the tax code will mean higher taxes on the middle class. to be fair, we still don't know what the congress' final tax plan will look like. but last night the senate took an important step forward in their process passing a budget that allows for more than a trillion dollars in tax cuts. every democrat voted against it along with republican senator rand paul. he voted no, too. the president tweeting this morning that paul will vote for tax reform in the end and that the reforms will be, quote, the
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biggest in the history of our country. msnbc's gary haake is on the hill for us. take us through what happened and how it sets up the path to tax reform. >> reporter: sure, chris. so the budget vote last night was sort of like the preseason for tax reform. what happened here is you have the senate now passing a budget that leaves about a trillion-and-a-half dollars worth of space for tax cuts and tax reform to be done. they made last-minute changes to make their budget line up more with what the house wanted, so it may shave a couple days or weeks off the process of getting the house and senate budget on the same page, but what is going to come next is, we're going to see what is in this tax reform bit. you played the sound bite with paul ryan say iing or not sayin this won't include tax hikes. but the bill isn't done yet. we have yet to see the tax reform or tax-cut bill because it is not finished being written yet. so any guarantees you have heard
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about up until this point are just sort of out of the air brace braced on next year. but then you have some stake holders who have anything to do with the next year will be fighting tooth and nail to protect their carveouts in the tax code. the budget part of this was the easy part. the big messy fight continues when congress returns next week. they are off today. >> thank you so much, garrett haake. and i have brian mcgwire to senator mitch mcconnell. this is the concern we have heard from democrats and people like rand paul. a, they are worried about the deficit. and c, there's a big concern to push this through when we don't
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know what the tax will be. is this a concern? nick mulvaney, he says this will mean new deficits. he says there isn't the political will on the political hill to solve this through the spending equation. is this worth ballooning the deficit? >> what really needs to be done is for the economy to grow. >> based on speculation that it will. >> based on dramatic cuts and individual corporate rates. >> there's a lot of concern out there and i hear it from people who, frankly, the republicans couldn't get health care passed. they have to get something done. because as people, like lindsey graham have said, if they don't
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pass this, then they're not going to have to kept any promise to voters. enis this going on here? >> this is a big week for mitch mcconnell and steve bannon. mcconnell was successful in getting the votes needed to get this budget passed, which unlocks the path for tax reform. the president is fully behind this effort. there was an amendment last night to accelerate the budget plan to show the house and senate leaders are succeeding and improve iing. and i think they are getting this done in a way that the senate was not able to get it done on health care. >> so you are saying that this
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budget, that this tax reform is not going to balloon the receive, improve the economy, and in fact of the spite that i'm assuming, unless you have inside information, we don't know what is right. >> there was sprior superior economic growth that led to the deficit that many people were hoping, the deficit would narrow what it said it would. if past is prologue, we should expect that the economic growth that follows as a result of this tax cut will be serious and major and help constrict the deficit. >> so critics who say you're going to cut taxes because you don't have the political will, you don't have the guts, frankly, to cut spending.
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what is your response? >> my response is the one that i have ichb. i think economic growth is really'de -- we need to increas the amount of money ordinary americans take home in their paychecks by expanding the standard deduction, by dramatically increasing the child tax credit, by cutting the rate on individual pass-throughs and spurring the growth of democrats. they are doing everything they can to prevent middle class america from getting a tax break. >> thank you so much for coming on. and i've got to go to matt because i stole your line, which is that we have to cut taxes because we are too cowardly to cut spending. what say you? >> that's what is happening here.
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from mick mulvaney, he wrote a piece for "the wall street journal" 30 months ago going after republicans for encouraging them to cut spending and believing in the fairy tale that tax reform itself can cut the debt sit. all that i can understand. but debt overhangs. and the literature is pretty strong on this. if you are/have $20 trillion in debt that we passed last month. that itself starts to drampen growt growth. so yesterday's news, the big story here is that republicans, including all the generation that came to office making the promise they would cut
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government spending, they gave up yesterday. that's over with. so now we're going to go into tax cut and spend, quhas which t we had under george w. bush as well. the debt and deficit will explode more than they have. and this is a dampener on growth. up next, john mccain issues a threat. what he's promising to do if he can't get answers on the attack of the servicemen in niger. and he's speaker of the house but he can bring the house down. he brought jokes to the dinner last night. enough with the applause, all right? you sound like the cabinet when donald trump walks in the room. i don't think i have seen this many new york liberals, this many wall street ceos in one room since my last visit to the white house.
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i'm chris jansing in new york with a look at this morning's headlines. the pentagon now investigating the ambush attack in niger that killed four u.s. soldiers.
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congress is demanding answers, too. senator john mccain is threatening to issue subpoenas with little information about the attack being released. including why the servicemen were caught by surprise, why it took two days to recover one of their remain, and if isis is really behind the attack. nbc news confirmed the fbi has also joined this investigation. law enforcement sources tell nbc news that the l.a. police department opened a criminal investigation into harvey weinstein involving an allegation of sexual assault in 2013. the accuser who was asked to remain anonymous claimed she was raped at the beverly hills hotel. while the allegations are being investigated, legal experts say this has significant legal implications for weinstein since the alleged crime happened within the ten-year statute of limitations. and the academy-award winning actress lupita nyong'o
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having a profound outlook there. >> reporter: despite nuclear tests and angry rhetoric between president trump and north korea's supreme leader kim jong-un, we met the american aid workers taking the flight with us to north korea. do you feel safe traveling to north korea? >> this is like my 50-something trip. and we all have families at home. we all want to get back to our families, so yes. >> reporter: so here along the front line to the north, there was a permanent sense of danger. they call this the demilitarized zone. it is anything but. every day these north korea troops stare down their american and south korean counterparts, both safe today on a hair trigger. that's the border between north and south. this side socialism and that is where the captive side is.
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i'm not allowed to stay here very long. in a war, this would be ground zero. and our exchange with the north korean lieutenant colonel reveals why the two sides so close at this border are so far apart. what do you think of president trump? >> translator: trump is mentally ill, the guard tells me. if there is a war with america, we will win. >> reporter: in this closed-off country, the people are hard to read. some officials we talked to still hope for peace. all seem braced for war. >> keir simmons inside north korea. very rare. we should be clear, at all times, keir and his troops were escorted by government minders. i want to bring in former deputy of state joel reuben along with my panel, laura and matt are still here, but i want to start with you, joel, because the cia director mike pompeo suggested yesterday that the country is on the cusp.
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let me play what he said. >> and it is the case that they are close enough now in their capabilities that from a u.s. policy perspective, we aught to behave as if we are on the cusp of them achieving that objective. >> what i wonder, joel, is does the u.s. policy perspective look like for sure? >> well, it is great to be with you. and something seems to be getting lost these days in the discussion about north korea, which is that there is no workable military option. there is, in a sense, no salvation through invasion. we can't have that as a primary focus, yet the president seems intent on sending military option messages. and it is undermining our ability to have diplomatic approach that pulls in our allies, that gets our secretary of state empowered to figure out ways to bring the parties to the table, that gets the issues exposed in a manner to resolve them. so when director pompeo states this, yes, of course, we all
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know that north korea is advancing its nuclear program. and that is why the urgency of diplomacy is critical right now. >> australia just got a letter from north korea ranting about president trump and urging them to drop diplomatic relations with the united states. australia's foreign minister says she sees it as a sign of economic and diplomatic sanctions are working. do you agree e? >> well, certainly the pressure is having an impact and it is creating dynamics we need to exploit. and certainly explore at a minimum. so if this is an opening, potentially, and if the australians see one, great. we should work with them to get to the table. we should work with our allies and japan and south korea to figure out what kind of pressure this is, what the pressure is then creating in terms of the calculations of the north koreans. but we are not at that stage. we are, in a sense, giving off mixed messages. one day secretary tillerson says we are for diplomacy, the next
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day he's trying to buy the president for engaging. and the president says, you're wasting your time. so what choices do we really have in front of us? not many. we need to make sure that we're exploring the diplomatic one. >> matt and laura, i want to get real quick thoughts from you about what this sort of state of play is with north korea. it was striking the headlines today, kim jong-un has obviously stepped up the number of nuclear tests far beyond his father did. and experts say the tests have altered the geological structure of the 7200-high peak where north korea detonates the nuclear bombs. they say it is suffering from tired mountain syndrome. it gives you a sense of exactly how many signals north korea has sent to us, what signal are we sending back? >> the trump administration is clearly proceeding on a stability -- he said the
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previous administration is over, so trump will have to act half-crazy to get other people to the table. the results of that has been that it stepped up north korea's activity, but we also got a stronger u.n. sanctions regime with china and russia coming in. it's a game of chicken. and it terrifies the hell out of me. but this is the approach they seem to be taking. and are also trying to get south korea, japan and china more involved with the final solution of whatever happens, then they have been up until now. >> the vast majority of americans are worried we are going into a major war sometime in the next four years. how is the administration dealing with this? >> well, they may be pursuing a strategy of deliberately presenting the president as half crazy, but the understanding is that they are very concerned about the president's upcoming trick to asia when he is considering going to the demilitarized zone and eventually speaking.
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he could make more off-the-cuff remarks, he could antagonize kim jong-un. there's no controlling what he would say. and the consequences of that, as we have seen, can be escalation of this nuclear war talk. >> and i'll be traveling with the president, as will hallie jackson, normally seen at this hour. you guys are sticking around. the former secretary of state joel rubin, thank you to you. one day, two former presidents back in the spotlight. bush and obama may not have targeted trump directly, but there was no doubt about them being in sync calling on americans to reject hate. more on what they said, why it matters and if it is enough to bridge the divide across the country. the new new york is ready for take-off. we're invested in creating the world's first state-of-the-art drone testing facility in central new york and the mohawk valley, which marks the start of our nation's first 50-mile unmanned flight corridor. and allows us to attract the world's top drone talent. all across new york state,
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will be american energy. this has been by any measure and, the reco an extraordinary 24 hours in politics. with stunning rebukes in the state of politics and political discourse in this country, as well as the impact it had on all americans. now, neither named names, they didn't say donald trump, but the target and the message were pretty clear. >> we have seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. at times it can seem like the forces pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. argument turns too easily into animosity. disagreement escalates into
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dehumidization dehumidization. >> we have folks trying to demonize people who have different ideas. you notice i haven't been commenting a lot on politics lately, but here's one thing i know. if you have to win a campaign by dividing people, you're not going to be able to govern them. you won't be able to unite them later if that's how you start. >> joining me is jack jacobs, and laura and matt are still with us. jack, you were awarded a medal by president nixon and have been involved in politics in every presidency since then. have you heard anything like this from two men, former republican and democrat, with this one message? >> no, i'm pretty old, and i can
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go back a long way. and i can't remember any of this happening. maybe after he was defeated by andrew jackson and john quincy adams went to the congress, maybe he castigated a sitting president at that time. but i can't remember this ever happening, certainly not in my lifetime. >> making this all the more pointed, general kelly speaks on the same theme yesterday. i want to play just a little bit more of what he said in the briefing room. >> when i was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. women were sacred. looked upon with great honor. that is obviously not the case we have seen anymore from recent cases. life, the dignity of life is sacred, that's gone. religion, that seems to be gone as well. gold-star families, i think that left in the convention over the summer. but i just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die in the battle field, i just thought that that
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might be sacred. >> he had spoken about politics earlier, but this really, i thought, was about what this country is, who we are at our core. and i wonder what you were thinking as you watch that. >> well, i think he was out there for a couple reasons. the first was, he was really angry and gritting his teeth when he said all this. you could almost see the pulse in his temple as he's talking. and help wasn't scheduled to be out there and i think he just got angry and came out. the second thing is that -- you talked earlier about a moral compass and a great deal of discussion about that. i think that he wanted to demonstrate the moral compass there. and as a minimum, it is he. he was genuinely angry and saddened. and it was reported that he was
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angry and saddened. and you could see it in the delivery. >> president trump also spoke about domestic foreign policy, what we are doing, what it signals to the rest of the world. i want to play part of that. >> we have seen nationalism distorted into nativism. we have forgotten the dynism. we are directly threatened by the chaos and despair of different places. >> his spokesperson said, look, this was not about president trump, but i'm wondering, matt, is there any doubt in your mind where that was aimed? >> of course it was all about president trump, as was john mccain's similar speech a few days ago. >> that's right. it had many echoes of that as well. >> spurious nationalism and all the things. i find myself not in vigorous
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agreement with the american creed and how we are not assuming the best of the people that we're engaging with, but what i would like to see from the same kind of political class that proceeded trump is how their own actions may have contributed to the chaos. their own actions can i be the to the bad politics. trump didn't arrive and create all of this. all of this has been bubbling for a while. your colleague chris hayes wrote a book called "the twilight of the elite." the elite screwed up. so they are recognizes that the norms have changed and some of the policies they don't like. that is an important work to be done. and this whole week has been remarkable, but the next step is to engage in self-reflection to see where they, themselves, contributed to this thing they don't like. >> i may not be a bad idea for all of us.
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puerto rico for the long hall and we can make sure that we're treated equally and that we're working together. >> that was puerto rico's governor just moments ago. he is obviously back in san juan after meeting with president trump at the white house yesterday. it's been exactly one month since hurricane maria struck puerto rico. power is still out for 80% of the island and almost a million people there still don't have access to clean, safe drinking water. the situation is so dire it's forced tens of thousands of puerto ricans to seek refuge in central florida.
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i know there has just been an exodus and a lot of them landing where you are. what are you seeing? >> reporter: chris, a new flight just got here from san juan and we saw about a dozen families go into this disaster relief center that they've set up at orlando international airport. 25,000 people from puerto rico have come through this airport according to the governor's office just in the past two weeks. officials tell us that the number of people seeking help in this center is increasing by the day. they've already helped more than 10,000 families and in the two hours this center has been opened, a hundred people have come here seeking help in every aspect of their lives. think about what it takes to up root your family, bring them to the mainland. people need help with immunization records, school records for their children. they need to transfer those puerto rican driver's licenses to the florida driver's licenses. and a lot of them come with psychological trauma as well. i'm here with a social worker.
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you've been helping families here. first of all, what kind of scope are you seeing in terms of the number of people seeking help? how many people have you treated already? >> we are making -- i work for family physicians group. we have 22 offices, and we're treating -- we're making appointments for people who are come from puerto rico. >> reporter: how many have you treated? >> around 25 appointments, roughly about 25 appointments we're making. >> reporter: a day. >> a day. >> reporter: and what kind of psychological trauma are people coming with. >> they're coming with a lot of baggage. they're coming with losing their house, leaving their families. and they're crying over things and over leaving their country. >> reporter: thank you so much for the work you're doing. i'm going to let you get back to work here. as she said, baggage of all types, chris. emotional baggage and literally
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the baggage that we're seeing here. people coming with just the bags that they can carry, with just the clothes on their back and staying here with family and friends in the orlando area. but of course we know that is only temporary. housing is very tight here, affordable housing. and that is a problem that this community is going to have to deal with as more and more puerto ricans come to the mainland. >> msnbc has been on this story throughout. we thank you very much for that. and thank you to my panel this hour. and today's big picture after a quick break. business has been great. they're affordable and fast... maybe "too affordable and fast." what if... "people" aren't buying these books online, but "they" are buying them to protect their secrets?!?! hi bill. if that is your real name. it's william actually. hmph! affordable, fast fedex ground. ♪
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for today's big picture we're going to raqqa for a story about women fighting on the front lines. check it out. a woman from an all-female kurdish militia that played a key role from freeing the unit from isis. lost 30 of its women in the battle for the city. but vowed to keep on fighting. as one of the fighters said, our fight is not only against isis. our fight is against the shove nis mentality against women. we thank the photographer here for the ap. and thank you for watching this hour of "msnbc live." i'm chris jansing in for hall ejackson. right now more news with my colleagues. >> have a great rest of the day to you. good morning, everyone. i'm ali velshi and i'm bad with
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my buddy. >> i'm stephanie ruhle thrilled to be back with my colleague. it is friday, october 20th. let's get started. >> rare and remarkable appearance. >> it was forceful and personal and it was the defense of president donald trump. >> if you've never worn the uniform, if you've never been in combat, you can't even imagine how to make that call. but i think he very bravely does make those calls. my son's case in afghanistan, when he died he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends. that's what the president tried to say to four families the other day. >> will that quiet the controversy that's followed the president all week? >> we have been engaged with the french and african forces in the region for some time. there's a reason we have u.s. army soldiers there and not the peace corps, because we carry guns. >> today marks the one month since hurricane maria struck puer

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