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it does beg a question, what threat can a 25-year-old woman journalist braving the civil war in yemen possibly present to the united states? if she does not embody u.s. values, i don't know who does. that does it for this week for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember to follow the showon line, on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports and craig melvin is up next right here on nbc. >> good to see you. enjoy your weekend. good afternoon to you. craig melvin. in washington, d.c. on this friday. we start with breaking news. new reporting just into nbc that a massive intelligence failure led to that attack in niger that left four u.s. servicemen dead. just a few hours from now defense secretary jim mattis heading to the hill to answer john mccain's questions about that attack. also this afternoon, the continuing crisis from this catastrophic hurricane season. i'll talk to a member of the army corps of engineers who
lived through the devastation of hurricane irma and maria and is still in purt rueco trying to rebuild. harsh words, bigotry, casual cruelty. former presidents george w. bush and barack obama mentioning the state of affairs. they didn't mention his name but its clear who they're talking about. will their rebuke change anything? we start with breaking news on that october 4th attack in niger. a senior congressional aide briefed on the four u.s. deaths now tells nbc news that the ambush stemmed in part from a, quote, massive intelligence failure. the news comes as we're expecting defense secretary mattis to meet with senator john mccain on capitol hill any moment now. the face-to-face coming just a day after mccain said he might seek a subpoena to try to get more information on the attack. it also comes after pentagon
officials confirm to nbc news that the fbi is now also investigating the attack. let's start with nbc's national security reporter courtney kube, and hanz nichols is standing by. courtney, let's start with you, this new reporting on what the source is calling -- characterizing as a massive intelligence failure. what more do we know? >> so, this is coming from my colleague, ken, who spoke with a senior source on the hill who said there are a lot of questions, still, which we know. but one is how is it the u.s. military, these 12 soldiers, were able to be ambushed by so many militants? how is it possible these militants were able to mass together in a way that they could hit these americans and nigerian forces nearby without them knowing they were coming, without them knowing there was a presence of them anywhere in the region? so, members of congress have been more and more outspoken about this. at this point we still have a
lot more questions than we have answers about exactly what happened in this ambush. as you mentioned in the lead-in, an investigative team went in this week, including some technical analysis by fbi and fbi investigators from the region. this is not uncommon. as we saw in the marine kc-130 crash in mississippi in july, fbi went in to help gather technical details and sort of what you would think of like an ncis or criminal investigation. they're gathering evidence, helping the u.s. military with that. it's not unheard of. we still have a lot more questions than answers about exactly what happened that day that led to four u.s. soldiers being killed and two more being wounded. >> was there any u.s. overhead surveillance during this attack? i know that's been the focus of a lot of the questions surrounding how all of this went down. do we know?
>> there was overhead surveillance. but it was not over -- immediately over the area where the ambush occurred. you know, the u.s. military has been asking for more intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance drones for some time now for africom. the reality is, those assets are wanted all over the world. there's a huge need in the central demand over iraq, syria, afghanistan. some things are not prioritized as highly as others. africom has been asking for these assets for some time, specifically over niger. >> hans, the fbi joining the investigation. is that customary? >> it has happened in the past. as courtney was mentioning. i would just say on this idea of how much overhead surveillance they have, africom at the beginning of the year and initial request said they only had 20% to 30% of theed intelligence needs they require. they said it leads to
intelligence failure, a lack of overhead understanding. so, this idea there isn't enough surveillance there is something you've heard within the africom community and they are building drone bases. they are building a new one in niger. they have one they're also building down in cameroon. all across africa you see dots, networks of drone bases so they can have a better idea of what's happening on the ground. they're doing surveillance. yes, they're doing training and operation with their partners but it's mostly surveillance and intelligence mission there. crucially, supporting the french who do have a lot more troops on the ground. we just had the french defense minister here at the pentagon, secretary mattis thanking her for the role they play in combating extremism in west africa. >> secretary mattis' visit to the hill to talk to the chairman of the armed services committee. what do we know about the expectations going into this meeting?
>> we know very clearly the pentagon wants to get out front on this and make sure they don't have a congressional problem as well and congressional investigations as they conduct their own investigation into what took place. just to give you a sense of how the pentagon has tried to stay ahead of this, we first learned about this attack publicly at about 5:50 on tuesday night. that's when radio france international sent their first headline. that was 5:50. a good two hours earlier, congressional officials had already been briefed by pentagon officials that something had happened. that's almost by our math, and we're back this out a little bit because we don't know the precise time of the attack, but three to four hours of the attack congress was informed. the pentagon wants to stay ahead of this. whether or not they're able to and satisfy the house and senate with all the questions they have, that's a different matter. i'll give you one quick thought, some of the details of the investigation are being read out on capitol hill gives you an
indication that the house and the senate are being brought along and they are sharing the pentagon -- the pentagon is sharing information with them. >> hans nichols at the pentagon, courtney for us as well. a big thanks to both of you. i want to give an update on the back and forty, the war of words, if you will, between frederica wilson and the white house. kelly o'donnell continues to follow that story. >> reporter: if there was any intention on the white house's part to try to bring this kroefrs to a close by having chief of staff general kelly speak to reporters and by extension the public and talk about what he believed the president's intention was in speaking to the johnson family, it is not over pp, in part, because john kelly raised some questions and drawn some criticism himself for some thing he said about congresswoman wilson, questioning some of her behavior, being in on the call, although she was a family friend, and also stating she had
personalized a ceremony in florida which was the sort of commemoration of a new building at the fbi named for some fallen fbi service members who -- this is her district. this happened a couple years ago. the criticism from john kelly about her allegedly making it about herself, talking about her involvement in trying to secure funding for that building, he raised that as being inappropriate. today the white house adding some additional oxygen with sarah huckabee sanders put thougt statement, general kelly was stunned that representative wilson made comments at a building dedication honoring slain fbi agents about her own actions in congress. as general kelly point out f you're ache to make a sacred act like honoring american here rose
li -- heroes. it achd to be a way in securing funding or being part of a process to pass legislation that benefits their home district. at that time, representative wilson acknowledged republicans who were there, previous speaker john boehner and she talked about the process of how did that building come into being. it was a case of where she spoke about her own role but did not appear to be taking credit and, in fact, extended some of the kind of congratulations to a broad group of people who had worked to make that building happen in south florida. so the white house today sort of doubling down on john kelly's criticism of congresswoman wilson and congresswoman wilson raised some questions about the nature of the president's call to the johnson family, saying she felt she was not as sincere as she would have hoped. this keeps on going. craig?
>> kelly o'donnell from the white house, thank you. anton gunn is a gold star family member, and bill kristol is with us, founder and editor of "the weekly standard." let's start with breaking news, the idea a, quote, massive intelligence failure may have been behind what happened in niger back in early part of this month. surprising? >> the phrase intelligence failure always komg comes up in something like this. i take the side of mattis to say, look, everyone is investigating, as you heard hans in the reporting, they're briefing congress in real time as it happened. when something happens like this and not know, of course, there's some sort of intelligence gap. i'm curious about overhead surveillance and requirements and needs, as courtney said, the pentagon has said for a long time they don't have enough isr for africa.
>> isr. >> intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. because the size of africa. for a while it was all of the drones are being used in iraq and afghanistan. as those wars draw down, there would be more than available. but africa is enormous. we have troops everywhere. so, it's not as easy as one may think to have drones overhead for every operation, especially for something like this, a simple training mission not a combat mission. even though you have special operators wanting that constant surveillance. >> what's the stated national security interest in that part of africa for us? >> niger, like most places in the world, needs security. the united states sends small groups of troops to train local forces. pretty simple. one of the pillars of global security, according to every doctrine. >> they're also fighting al qaeda there so this is part of the global war on terror.
maybe they should do more, the trump administration should do more to explain to americans we're fighting a serious war in lots of parts of africa. lots of brave soldiers and marines, naval -- i know someone personally in naval intelligence doing important things. i think one of the worst things would be the sense, why are we there? this happened after mogadishu and we ended up being very weary in the clinton administration and people died in rwanda because we were not wanting to give assets. i think this notion there's some kind of cover-up or some terrible -- >> you think it's silly? >> i don't think it's silly. i don't think people should jump to that assumption. jim mattis cares about the soldiers under his command. if something is wrong, he'll fix it. maybe there was an intelligence failure, maybe not. but someone to say massive
intelligence failure, maybe there was one but, maybe they penetrated the forces we were work with and got information. this is what happened when you're in conflict against al qaeda and al qaeda-type groups that want to kill americans. >> we wanted to invite you here because you're very close to the other big story of the week, a story that has, perhaps, surprisingly dragged on for four, five days now. you are a gold star family member. your brother died in the "uss cole" attack back in 2000. what we heard yesterday from the chief of staff, from general kelly, what we've heard from the president, what we heard from the congresswoman in florida, how does all of this compare to your family's experience? >> well, craig, first i want to say today is the 17th anniversary of when president clinton came to virginia and
offered his condolences to my family and other families' victims from those that died on the "uss cole." i can tell you there are no words that you can even muster to replace or to help console the feelings and emotions you have of losing a family member in the military. it's been a hard time to watch this week and see general kelly as well as the president and the congress put their focus on the wrong things. i will say that there is a way to console people. there's a way to offer your condolences. this is not rocket science. we have all lost loved once and we all know how to say, we're sorry for your loss. there's no way to make a mistake and not say -- there's no right words. we all know what to say. and so it's been a very painful week for me because it brings back memplz of like it just happened yesterday even though it was 17 years ago. the "uss cole" happened 17 years
ago. every time we meet as a gold star family, we see a story of a loved one losing their life. i think we should keep the focus on those families and focus on our service members who are, again, all over the world protecting nations and the interest of america. we should remember it's about them. the fact of general kelly, the congresswoman to belittle this at this time is wrong. it's painful for those of us who are just trying to find a way to draw comfort and peace and know our loved ones serve for something greater than we all are and we should remember it should be about them and us. as a gold star family member, i can tell you that every day we live with this. it doesn't go away, it doesn't change, we live with it every day. >> you mentioned the congress wornlgs she's catching flack, not just from republicans but a handful of democrats for publicizing the call initially. this is what "the new york
times" maggie haberman tweeted, kelly rips wilson for listening to and disclosing the president's call to a gold star family, an opinion some dems privately shared when it happened. what's your take on that? should the call itself even been publicized? >> my opinion is, she's a family friend of this young man who lost his life in niger. she's close to the family. she was in the car on a speakerphone. that's no different than my brother's best friends he grew up with being with us when president clinton came to see us. it's no different than family and friends being around. people will be around. it's not a difficult thing to imagine she would hear this. it's not difficult to imagine she would share what was said. if something was said in that phone call that unnerved her, concerned her or concerned a family. we're making this about the congresswoman. as i understand it, his mother
and wife both agreed with what the congresswoman's assessment was about the phone call. i don't know why we're trying to make it be like the congresswoman. she's also in pain. someone who is connected to that family, she's probably in pain as well. in these times, emotions run high. people are not thinking with their rational mind when you learn of someone that you love closely and dearly has lost their lives. so i'm not concerned about her raising it. i'm concerned about her turning it into something it should not be. i'm sorry, it came out wrong. let's focus back on those four soldiers who lost their lives and we need to do a better job of that. >> it was striking to see the chief of staff go out on a limb for this president, putting his krinlt on the line, if you will. what does that mean moving forward for general kelly? what might it mean for the
president? >>. >> i'm a big admirer of general kelly and know him well. i wish he would have said, we all send our condolences, we all support these young men, their sacrifices for the country and left it at that. >> a big thanks to all of you. enjoy the weekend, gentlemen. the purlt rico humanitarian crisis spilling into florida creating a new wave of issues for those who are trying to start fresh. a report from florida. also the latest on the struggle to rebuild from puerto rico. we'll go on the ground there. on capitol hill today, former attorney general loretta lynch meeting with members of the house intelligence committee. she's answering questions about possible russian collusion. and the presidential election. at mom and dad's and found this. cd's, baseball cards... your old magic set? and this wrestling ticket... which you still owe me for. seriously? $25 i didn't even want to go.
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the president reiterated that his commitment to stay with puerto rico for the long haul, spoke to the senate majority and minority leaders are committed to working with puerto rico so that we can make sure that puerto rico is treated equally. >> that was puerto rico governor ricardo rossello speaking in san juan one day after meeting president trump at the white house. puerto rico remains in crisis. more than 80% of the island still has no power.
nearly 30% of folks who live in puerto rico don't have fresh drinking water. it has gotten so bad that tens of thousands of residents are leaving puerto rico. they're fleeing for the u.s. mainland. msnbc marianna atencio has this story from florida on families struggling to rebuild third lives in the aftermath. >> reporter: the humanitarian crisis in puerto rico is spilling into florida. the lines of recent arrivals to orlando international airport growing every day. 60,000 have fled to florida since october 3rd. most arrive only with what they can carry as they move in with family or friends. at this center in kissimmee, she seeks help for. a pharmacist back home. >> she wants to look for job.
she doesn't want to be another paying for government. she just has me. >> reporter: she also has a 7-year-old daughter who started second grade this week. florida schools working oversometime to welcome puerto rico's youngest displaced. according to osceola county school board, over 340 puerto rican students have already registered in schools here since hurricane maria hit. they're expecting that number to increase in the coming months and they tell us, many of these kids are coming here with language barriers, with emotional trauma and a lack of the very basic supplies. >> you see the face. the facial expressions, the sadness. and i think that tells a big story. >> reporter: you can see it in the eyes of 12-year-old ryan leo leone. >> it's very audible. he's scared. he's scared. he don't want to see never,
never -- and now he worried for the language, for the situation, for everything. >> reporter: his mother came to florida three years ago during the debt kritsz. now ryan and the rest of the family have joined her. five people living in one crammed hotel room. what do you need to feel better, to feel more at home here? [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: you want a house? [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: you want to go to school, learn english. for these children and their families, a new uncertainty one month after the hurricane. officials at this welcome center at orlando international airport tell us they surpassed the 10,000 persons seeking help in just 16 days. now, craig, you're not only seeing families and flights arriving from san juan, but
these people just arrived on a flight from bonsai, the second largest city in the part. island that was devastated after the hurricane. here there's also the expectation as flights normalize on the island, we'll see more seeking refuge on the mainland by the day growing. >> folks getting out of of puerto rico. it's sad to see. thank you. i'm joined now on the phone in san juan, colonel lloyd, with the army corps engineer, task power commander there. i know you're very busy. thank you for your time this afternoon. as i understand it, you are at the power authority facility right now. what's the situation -- what's the situation there like? how long is it going to take to restore power to the island? >> i want to say personally how
humbled and honored i am to take on this mission for the people of puerto rico. understanding they've been without power for quite some time. let me give you an idea of how catastrophic this is. after maria ripped through the islan island, 80% of the grid was destroyed or damaged when the hurricane came through. so, it's on a catastrophic scale. i did a flyover a couple days ago looking at the damage. where a lot of the extensive damage is, is in the most mountainous regions of puerto rico is where the transmission lines were destroyed or knocked down. >> are there areas of the island that are still inaccessible? >> yeah. what we're seeing especially from that flyover, you had a lot of damage to the road network, a lot of landslides, a lot of
debris preventing access to get some of -- something to those remote areas. i think that's going to be a lot of the challenge with this mission. especially, again, in the more mountainous regions of puerto rico where there are no roads and most of the reconstruction is going to be done by transporting men and materials in by helicopters to get to the remote areas. >> we've heard from the governor there that the expectation is that power will be restored to the island by mid-december. is that realistic? >> what we're faced with, and the governor himself have said those are very aggressive goals. he's pushing all of us to try to meet that timeline. i think what we're faced with is extraordinary challenges here. one, just understanding the low gisices behind this. we're bringing in over 62,000 poles to do the restoration.
most of those poles have to be manufactured in the mainland united states, both wood, concrete and metal. and then transported from the mainland by ship or other materials by plane and brought in to puerto rico. right now the corps, we have already ordered about $140 million of material to do the restoration. so, it's going to be a hard charge to meet the deadline the governor has set with a lot of challenges in the way. >> colonel, we heard from -- we heard from your boss yesterday. he said that he would give himself the administration a perfect ten when it comes to the response there on puerto rico. would you also give a perfect ten? >> well, i'm not going to comment on anything the administration said. what i can tell you is this. the corps of engineers has brought in experts from across our organization to face the
problem to restore the power of puerto rico. we're going to do everything we can for the government here and for the people to do just that. >> colonel john lloyd, u.s. army corps of engineers carving out some time for us to update us on the fight to get power back on that island. colonel, thank you so much for your time, sir. good luck to you. coming up, obama's attorney general today met privately with the house committee investigating russian collusion. what did loretta lynch have to say? on a lighter side of things, speaker paul ryan addition or should i say comedian paul ryan, cracking a few jokes at last night's al smith memorial foundation dinner. we'll have a little more of his performance next. >> i want to thank patricia heaton. she is a hollywood republican.
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new developments behind me in capitol hill, in both upper and lower chambers. loretta lynch showing up to be interviewed. they are investigating possible collusion in the 2017 election. garrett haake this friday. what do we know about the former attorney general's appearance? >> reporter: we know it continues now. she's downstairs in one of the secure rooms of the capitol being quizzed by house investigators. we know a couple topics of interest. first, what the administration knew and when about russia's attempts to influence the last election. also, i expect she's probably get asked about this issue of unmasking, which has become one
of the subscandals of the russia story. and about that tarmac meeting about former president bill clinton. all those on the likely list of topics as she meets with the house intel committee going through this investigation. >> paul ryan, house speaker, was a lot funnier than a lot of folks suspected he might be during that al smith political dinner in new york. what can you tell us? >> reporter: the al smith dinner every year, it's a big charity event in new york city to raise money for catholic charities. they usually have at least one political speaker. remember, last year hillary clinton and donald trump spoke. paul ryan had his turn at the mike last night and turns out, paul ryan's got jokes. >> enough with the applause, all right? you sound like the cabinet when donald trump walks in the room. i don't think i've seen this many new york liberals, this many wall street ceos in one
room since my last visit to the white house. i got to say, i really have learned so much. i learned god is always listening, as is vladimir putin. >> reporter: so, craig, ryan said in another interview this morning that he jokes with the president like that from time to time. so, if president trump was upset about any of those jokes, we haven't heard it from him yet. it's clear that ryan has mastered one of the hardest parts of comedy which is, of course, timing. >> garrett haake. garrett haake's got joectiokes,. that was good. but i would likely stick with my day job on the hill. >> reporter: fair enough. >> former presidential blast from the past. presidents bush and obama calling for unity in what's been called a polarizing presidency. will their messages, will what they said yesterday, will it actually resonate? america's beverage companies have come together to
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two former presidents, two speeches, one thing in common. presidents bush and obama at separate events yesterday, each calling for unity. and a less divisive political discourse. neither mentioned president trump by name. but they were clear rebukes to the tone that has been set by the current administration. >> bigotry seems emboldened, our
policy seems to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication. we've seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. at times it can seem like the force is pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. we've seen nationalism distorted into nativism. we've forgotten dine nichl that immigration has always brought america. >> we're at our best when we're not trying to put people down but put people up. you notice i haven't been commenting a lot on politics lately, but here's one thing i know. if you have to one a campaign by dividing people, you're not going to be able to govern them. >> former senior aide at hhs under george w. bush, now research fellow at hoover institute. and bill burton, former white house press secretary under president obama.
good to see both of you guys. bill, let me start with you there. i think a lot of folks were surprised to see your former boss there talking about president trump without actually using his name. what did you make of what we heard from president obama? >> well, look, president obama isn't a guy who itches every morning to go out there and find what campaign he can participate in. he's dedicated to the process but he's not the same kind of political animal that bill clinton was. and i think that what you saw was president obama seeing this as an opportunity to, a, be helpful in virginia and, b, make a comment about, you know, the state of politics in america today. i think what he delivered was a very powerful indictment of the tone and tenor of what's happening in washington, the kind of conversations that we're having and the lifting up of some of the worst elements in our society. it was refreshing to hear from president obama and the ovation he got in that room was something i think a lot of us
were feeling. then on president george w. bush, i have to say as a democrat it was surprising to hear such -- to take such comfort in words from a guy i spent so much time disagreeing with, but he gave a powerful speech yesterday as well. >> it seemed as if there was something that moved president bush to say what he said yesterday. there was some sort of event, some impetus that perhaps we don't know about. do you have any inside knowledge about what drove him to make that emotional plea yesterday for a return to civility? >> i don't, craig. i don't know if there was a specific incident. i think as an observer of our democracy, as an observer of our system of politics, president bush was probably disturbed by some things he's seen. i think president bush has always, in my mind at least, stood for some of the better and
brighter elements of democracy. and i think he's done that in his post-presidency period particularly well. i think you saw in that speech an articulation of the themes he cares about. an effort to elevate the discourse, a specific reference on the issue of immigration. which is an issue he's always cared deeply about. so, i think what you saw from him really was just a call for people to come back to the kind of civility that feels awfully retro these days. >> why not use the president's name? everyone in the room, everyone watching at home, we all knew who they were talking about? why not just call a spade a spade? >> well, i don't think the goal was to engage in some kind of direct conflict. i don't think the goal was to drive a news cycle to create sort of a direct attack on the president. i think, you know, president bush had a message, which is we need more civility in politics. that's part of what president obama was trying to convey in his remarks as well and, i
think, look, you let that sit. there's no reason to directly attack the president by name. and fuel the kind of division and divisiveness both of those men appear to be decrying. >> go ahead, bill. >> i was just going to say, for president obama, keep in mind he was in virginia for a campaign event. he was very focused on that campaign. and he's running against, you know, ed gillespie, a lobbyist, who is running a trump-style campaign but without president trump as part of it. i think what president obama was trying to do, come to virginia, do something democrats have been able to do successfully in recent cycles. it wasn't so long ago that democrats were really in the wilderness in that state. the fact that president obama can be in that state and be helpful, it's extraordinary if you think of where we were just 10, 15 years ago. >> but, i mean, last election it was a statement hillary clinton won by six points. there are a lot of folks that have suggested that virginia may not be as purple as a lot of folks thought. bill, while i have you here, i
do want to ask you about something else. in the past you've been critical of president trump using so many executive orders. that's the same charge that was leveled against president obama. why were executive orders okay under president obama but not so under president trump? >> i think executive orders are fine. it's in the constitution. its part of the -- it's one of the tools in the tool box the president has. my problem with the way president trump uses executive orders is because it's to harm massively large groups of americans every time he puts pen to paper. president obama used executive orders to expand health insurance, protect our environment, make sure people had equality under the law. it's a very different scene where president trump is using that authority to directly harm americans. >> as we look at the broader legislative agenda over the next few months, tax reform now front and center, health care,
perhaps, immigration, the tone we've been talking about from the white house trickling down to lawmakers on the hill, how much of that trickles down to voters? >> well, you know, i think it's both top down and bottom up. i think we're seeing a lot of division in the electorate but also seeing a lot of heated rhetoric from lawmakers. if you look at this period we just went through on obamacare, certainly the period now on tax reform, the kind of charges and accusations leveled back and forth, it's not, hey, i disagree with you on the policy, it's, hey, i think you actually don't like people or, hey, i think you want to harm people. those kind of accusations and charges do not make our system better. necessity don't help us get to a better policy and they don't help us get to the kind of outcomes that will improve the lives of americans. i think it's a divided electorate and our elected officials need to elevate the dialogue as well. >> bill burton, good to have you as well. enjoy the weekend. >> thanks, craig.
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lupita nyong'o is the latest in a list of women to accuse disgraced movie director harvey weinstein. it brings the total number making allegations against weinstein to 58. this comes as law enforcement sources tell nbc news that the los angeles police department has now opened a criminal investigation connection into an allegation of sexual assault that occurred in the city of los angeles back in 2013. we should add winn seen's allegations are unequivocally denied by mr. weinstein. let's start with the investigation, clare. law enforcement telling us that
the lapd opened the criminal investigation into weinstein in connection with an allegation from an italian model actress back in 2013. what more do we know? >> she was a 38-year-old actress that she says or through her lawyers she says that the encounter happened in a beverly hills hotel. it seems to be a pattern we've heard many times over the past two weeks with, as you mentioned, 58 women coming forward and saying they've been harassed or even raped bihar have a weinstein. it's an incredible number. i guess the missing piece to the accusation the is what happens now. does harvey face a criminal investigation? does he go to jail? and do the women sue the company? we're waiting to hear what happens next. gloria allred is having a press conference about accusations. every time i look at my phone, i feel like there's a story about
a new allegation. we'll wait and see. >> do we know what lead this italian actress, model, i believe 34 at the time. do we know what lead her to come forward? >> we do not. my guess is she feels emboldened by the other women that have stepped forward, and wants to tell her story, too. it's not clear whether she is pressing charges or, you know, what happens how it unfolds. >> lupita nyong'o, the oscar winning actress, talking about her own encounter with weinstein after meeting him in 2011. she was apparently invited to his house in connecticut. she asked her for a massage. she wrote in a new york times op-ed yesterday i thought he was joking at first. he was not, for the first time since i met him, i felt unsafe and panicked. she ended up getting the heck
out of there, at one point. she did apparently did go out with him again. do we know why? it seems to be a theme? a reoccurring theme of multiple interactions with weinstein. >> right. i mean, my guess is most women thinking it was a misunderstanding and they can't quite believe it happened. obviously, she mentions that in the piece that she wrote for the times he was funny and charming and he -- other big producer that has a big influence on every actresses' career. she thought maybe let me let it slide and, you know, we'll continue the relationship. further on in the piece, she also says, you know, i distanced myself from him. i wouldn't take projects with him. and so understandable she would want to keep her distance. one of the interesting things is he said, you know, your career might suffer from as a result of what you've done.
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