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thanks for your time. great discussions. keep it going on twitter. good night and stay tuned. "a.m. joy" starts right now. this week the #metoo proliferated on social media and millions shared their stories of surviving sexual assault and harassment amid allegations against disgraced movie mogul harvey weinstein. weinstein denies these claims against him. the me too movement began a decade ago lived as a camper said she was being abused at home. she says at the time "couldn't even bring myself to whisper me too. mow the moveme menment launched
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raising awareness about the ubiquity of the problem. survivors are often quite young, auv members of marginalized communities, wouldn't hear their name or recognize their faces. now in the wake of weinstein women whose names and faces we all recognize are speaking up. yesterday academy award-winning actress lou beat upita inyannyo. >> and also a me too post, alleging dr. nassar molested her for years. and joining me tara and msnbc political contributor jason johnson, republican strategist sarah runge and senior adviser
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from and start at the table. seems when situations like this happen either with fox news, roger ailes, bill o'reilly et cetera or weinstein, actually with donald trump, the original sort of story becomes a deluge and people feel empowered to come forward. talk about the fact it takes one person to come forward before everyone else feels comfortable? >> sure. on one hand think about this definitely, a watershed moment or tipping point, but what we see is that it requires almost an avalanche, you called it dell huge of women coming forward. we don't believe one or two. it takes fearless reporting as well as a community of women saying that this has happened to them over and over again. that's the good side. the flip side, though, a number of men like quentin tarantino, colin firth, express sympathy
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but benefited from their silence. we believe these women's stories, to prevent this we have to imagine or understand how male complicity hurts these women and maintains sufficient iring in silence and gives men wonderful opportunities to succeed in an industry that's male dominated. there's two sides to this. until that changes, equal pay and equal opportunities, the law of hole woot and law of the land, we'll see more and more of this happening and it will require such numberses of women to come forward as opposed to just you, me, or all of us one at a time and people believing us. >> that is shameful, really. tara, think about whether it was bill cosby, 52 women before people would believe anyone. donald trump, at least 15 accusers came forward and got elected as president of the united states after bragging groping women and bill o'reilly, a tape that came out years before and still stayed in the anchor chair. is there something about our
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society that rewards abusive men until there's a critical mass of women and then we say, okay, maybe we'll believe them? >> yes, because people still believe that bill cosby is innocent. there are still people who actively and aggressively attack you for criticizing bill cosby. still millions that believe donald trump is innocent despite him saying it himself on a tape that we all heard as a nation. so there is something wrong and there's something sick in our culture, in our society, that enables this behavior and one of the things most disturbing is a lot of people now are trying to make this specifically about harvey weinstein. >> sure. >> this is not just about harvey weinstein. there are tons of harvey weinsteins in every industry, in this country. >> yep. >> donald trump is a harvey weinstein. we have a harvey weinstein in the highest office of the land. >> yes, absolutely. >> and we have to be careful we don't let this become about one man and one situation. we have to recognize this is a systemic issue that it is.
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>> absolutely. head of amazon studios roy price had to resign because of allegations. the editorial director at have to resign because of allegations. this usa gymnastics story, jason, re-do the statement from usa gymnastics, governing body about mckayla maroney's tamt. admiring those like mckayla who came forward because of their strength predators are held accountable 0 for actions. we like many others are outraged by the conduct larry nassar is accused of. we are sorry for any other gymnasts harmed during his or her career, the details, in jail awaiting two trials on alleging molesting former patients, and awaiting charges.
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the think about the fact, jason, men are operating openly flagrantly, abusively and not even afraid of being caught. what is that about? not that we'll make you speak for all men but the men don't seem to be afraid they'll be caught? >> it's the complicity of. he be, joy. it was a great tweet i saw earlier this week. why is every single woman knows someone who can say me, too, and men act like this is new and shocking to them? because men observe the behavior and don't do anything about it. men observe this behavior and laugh along with it, observe the behavior, talk to the woman later and say, god, that was really bad, but didn't say anything about it in the staff meeting. what difference does it make? the behavior of bill clinton, bill cosby, everything from the president of the united states down to the night manager to sexually harasses a 14-year-old at mcdonald's, there are men at
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every level don't say anything, and then want to get on twitter and social media and say how bad they feel. go out and hold other men accountable. it doesn't take a ton of people to engage in the behavior but it does take a them to don't let the few get away with. >> and pick and choose. accusers of bill clinton to shame him. republican side saying, bill clinton san abuser and then a rush to believe on your own partisan side, but not believe on the other side. the gretchen carlson book opens with her being attacked by people on the right who essentially saw her as a traitor to the conservative cause for telling her truth about roger ailes. what do you make of this idea that people are now literally using a partisan lens to decide which woman they want to believe? >> it's really unfortunate, because the ethical position is that partisan politics shouldn't come into play, because these
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stories are not about politics. they're about power. they happen when the abuser is in the position of power, and he's able to make his victim feel like shez doesn't have power and is alone. so people talk about social media and its, you know, drawbacks all the time, but this is one of those things where like the issues with bullying, the more people that are coming forward, this is sending the message especially to young girls that if you're in this situation you're not alone, not the only one it's happening to. i mean, on a, just a, a less scandalous kind of level i've been in a situation with campaigns and groups before where there were, slow to pay and you don't want to be difficult. don't want to be the one that causes problems. so you keep it quiet, hope to resolve it because you can't file a lawsuit. don't want to be the troublemaker. same with women in sexual harassment and abuse situations. they're very scared being label add troublemaker and difficult
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to work with. the more people coming forward, it makes it easier and it makes it more likely that somebody will have the courage to find help and get good advice and find a path forward. >> and you know, the other thing we've seen, a respect politics coming in and a couple, apologized for what was written in an op-ed saying modest dress and the way you carry yourself would prevent these things from happening. there are women who are saying, well, the cosby accusers picking and choosing which would have had a scandal or we don't believe that woman in particular because of who she is. tell us about that and what responsibility we have to negate this and whether we believe these women? >> incredibly problematic, someone raising a young girl that is the wrong message to send to any young women growing up. it is not their fault at all, and the responsibility and the onus is on the man.
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we also have to make sure that men are held accountable. i think the interesting thing we're seeing right now with the harvey weinstein story is that there are tangible results for what he's done. which we don't normally see, and i mean, just almost a year ago we elected donald trump, who we know is a sexual assaulter, and people still believed in him and elected hill. the thing crazier than that, he now sits behind the resolute desk in the oval office essentially defecating on women signing executive orders taking away rights from women. so now with harvey weinstein's story and the others in the, and the other men in the different industries we're actually seeing results, because of the avalanche, because women are coming out and speaking. so with that we need to send the right message to the, to our young people in particular the ones growing up watching all of this, and say, it's okay. you can be who you are. you don't need to change who you
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are and it's okay to speak out. we have your back. >> and getting an amen here. >> and i wanted to say in 2014 we had a similar moment around college sexual assault. "time" magazine, and obama has a task force and under the current administration we see a rescinding of many of the guidelines obama presented and that colleges had to adhere to. i want to make sure as this moment is happening, that we are anticipating the kind of pushback and the consolidation around male power and male privilege that's probably going to happen at the same time that women feel more comfortable coming forward. >> absolutely. around those stories then the idea that, well, because the rolling stones story didn't pan out, well, we walked away from that whole opportunity, because now you started a once again to have along allegation that women are making these stories up. >> to your point, joy, earlier. you raised a very good point about equal papey. look at the interrelationship
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between these things. so many messages that are brought about through policy, and advocacy in our culture that makes an environment where women don't feel comfortable. not just attacked but we don't have equal pay in the country. definition, telling women you are not equally valued in this society. >> yes. >> that make as woman less likely to come forward. she's already dealing with not being paid enough. we have women who don't, aren't given -- can't even control our own bodies. people want to take away our reproductive health care rights. again, these are all things that contribute to a society that devalues women, and contributes to a system that devalues women. >> absolutely. and it's not, jason it isn't a coincidence that the person who was empowered to be the first to come forward at fox, gretchen carlson, a higher paid person. right? women don't necessarily have economic wherewithal to take that chance. >> right. it's how empowered you are, who you are, whether people believe
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you. and i think this, this is key, people have talked about how far we go with harvey weinstein. people who are sexual predators are like roaches. you don't just find one. others have participated. maybe his family involved. other people who worked with him involved. like jared from subway, wasn't just him. someone else on the staff. the other key lesson, not just stopping with harvey weinstein but going down the list of all the other list of men and sometimes women complicit in this behavior and let it be done. above and beyond abuse of women look at the larger questions about the abuse of young people in general. i think of not only the gymnast, corey feldman saying, hey, i've been talking about this 30 years. there's an entire culture here that says, women and children's is vos are not to be heard if being sexually abused. i hope that's a part of the future narrative once we get past harvey weinstein himself. >> hate to come back to it. in a week, the chief of staff of the president of the united
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states saying why can't we go back to the time women are held sacred, couldn't even open a bank account. coming out of the white house, devaluing women and tries to go back to a 1950s conception, really only applied to white women anyway. what messages are we getting from the top? culturally, from the white house? >> well, i don't hold donald trump as any kind of example of chivalrous behavior. the idea a gentleman should treat a woman with courtesy, respect and dignity is a wonderful idea and that's the problem with the sexual harassment and abuse stories. people viewing women as objects and toys not as people deserving of individual dignity. i do think, again, that one of the good things to come out of all of this is there is a verify loud uprising. peel are seeing this is a wide problem across all sides of the aisle, all industries, and --
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the good people vastly outnumber the bad. the majority of people know this is wrong and the awareness of it i do think will make it easier for people to start being aware of it. i mean, the ability of americans to do good when they all get together. look what happened in gainesville, florida. my alma mater. richard spencer international press giving him attention. the best he could do, get 30 or 40 dorks to show up and the entire city shouted him down. awesome. very proud of my gators. >> in addition to being a white supremacist not sure women should have the right to vote. an issue comes to the fore, policy that flows from on high that tries to address it. we have coming out of this administration is policy to the point made by this panel attempting to take away birth control, reproductive rights. an interesting time from a policy standpoint. >> really is, and make sure there is no equal, equal pay for
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women. that's coming straight out of the white house and the oval office. i was thinking about this now. brings me back to almost a year ago. there is a systemic problem that we're having here, which is in 2016 we had the opportunity to elect the first woman president. and what i remember hearing in focus groups from women and men, this country could not be run by a woman. a woman could not be president. so there is a, a problem we have that women aren't seen as a figure that could hold the higher office by many folks here in this country. >> i heard that from women even in 2008 saying a woman shouldn't be president. >> we see who voted for donald trump. a majority of white women voted for donald trump. to say that that, this is not, does no play a role and what we see, i do think some women obviously are contributing to this issue. it isn't just the complicity of
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men. it is complicity of women. i had something happen to me when i worked in government i went to my woman boss who told me to leave it alone. >> don't be a troublemaker. >> and i can tell you other examples of those types of things occurring but we have women who have internalized misogyny and why the messages that are sent to women by policy choices, by the structure are, the notion that those messages don't have an impact, the notion that these things don't play a role is just a false notion. if you can't pay a woman equally for the same job as a man, then how do you expect to create quality in any other sense? >> give us a solution here? i will call on to you do the impossible. what do we do about it, then? >> talked about equal pay in hollywood, equal writers amongst male and female actors and i want to say all women aren't created equal in america. important for lupita nwong'o to
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come forward. hierarchy against women, thought women are color, particularly black women harassed. seeing mixed messages from the white house going back to an earlier era. what's going on now with kelly and congressman -- trust black pi women's stories with evidence and the inclination to smear them so equally, or so quickly, i think is part of the problem as well. >> in addition to the #metoo, the #ibelievefrederica, heavy, too. >> thank you all. wow, a great panel. have to reassemble you in the future. up next, in the trump sessions era, not all crime is created equal. stay with us. whoooo.
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we have a crime problem. we will deploy the talents and abilities of the department of justice in the most effective way possible to confront this rise in crime. >> when donald trump and his attorney general jeff sessions promised to reduce crime in america they had a limited meeting and a rather specific set of targets in mind. take, for example, law enforcement's apparent lack of interest in one group at the center of the violence in charlottesville in august. spending weeks examining the rise above movement. a group of more than 50 people who spend their weekends training for one goal. physically fight anyone who disagrees with its supremacist white ideology. the group does not seem to be the target of any police investigation.
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but there is another group of americans, the fbi has targeted for investigation. according to an fbi report that foreign policy made public, the fbi's counterterrorism division has created a term -- black identity extremists, to describe people they believe pose a threat to police because of "perceptions of police brutality against african-americans." joining me, a republica staff reporter and a representative of black lives matter. who are these white supremacist groups and why don't police have any interest in arresting them? >> so the rise above movement is a group of, as you said, more than 50 young men, most of them are under 30, and they're spread across southern california from san diego up to los angeles. they train on the weekends at various parks around southern california. and their mission is to advance a nazi white supremacist ideology by attacking people on
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left, attacking people of color, and attacking basically anti-fascists who show up at fascist rallies. >> and these groups, a lot of the member, when i read your report, it's chilling. young men, police records, police arrested for assault in the past. but who show up in places like charlottesville and don't seem to attract any attention by police. you recently, i believe, interviewed a couple of the men who finally actually were arrested but only after they shot at counterprotesters during this latest richard spencer appearance at the university of florida. literally fired shots at anti-fascist protesters. then they finally got arrested. tell me a little about them. >> well, let me first tell you, when we were in charlottesville by colleague khaled hodge and i documented two members of the movement. we didn't know who they were but they were attacking multiple women counterprotesters. beating them, choking them.
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we have pictures, videos of this, in our story and in our video. we went to the police. this just happened. you guys were standing there. you didn't do anything. are you going to do anything? and they didn't want to talk. they did nothing. allowed this to happen. one of the other people in charlottesville and involved in all that mayhem that basically happened without any police intervention was a guy named tyler tenbring, not a member of the rise above movement but several other white supremacist groups. i interviewed him. he'd been in the brawls. he said i hate the leftists, they're evil, bringing degeneral rasy to our country. i'm fighting against the press of multiculturalism on western society and fighting for my children. fastforward to this week, shows up in florida at the richard spencer event and according to police opens fire on counterprotesters with a handgun. that's the kind of folks we're talking about, and as far as i
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can tell, tyler was another person who was likely known to law enforcement, but there was no action being taken against him. >> yeah. and patrice, the irony, of course, here is that you have the fbi inventing something they call black identity extremists, this document, this internal document made on august 3rd. foreign policy acquired it. that is it you're seeing on the screen now. the aclu demanded information about fbi surveillance of black activists. they officially, i guess, took it to mean that their i.d. means black lives matter. what do you as the co-founder of that hashtag make of this, calling black lives matter extremists and officers not arresting white supremacists? >> deeply disturbing they're
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deciding to target black activists who essentially held a peaceful movement the last four years. this is pro and co 2.0. what the fbi should focus on are these white nationalist groups, these alt right groups who have not just killed, they've brutalized, harmed and spew hate across this country. i think it's a waste of resources to be pivoting towards black activists and also we've seen this before. this is -- completely co and pro 2.0 and we have to make noise about stopping it. >> one of the ironies, patrice, activists including black lives matter marching in varl charlottesville we were hearing reports the police were just standing around. do you feel police offer enough protection to black lives matter or get the sense black lives matter is seen as the threat? >> black people are
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over-policed, over-criminalized, over-incarterated without being activists. when you add activists on top of that we are being surveilled, criminalized for protesting and activi activism, and we are being targeted by local law enforcement and being targeted now by the federal government, and i think that's a shame. especially when we see people like in las vegas. the domestic terrorist who killed over 60 people. >> yeah. >> we are -- this government is focusing on the wrong group of people. >> yeah. i recommend everyone go back and read a.c. thompson's krilling report in pro publica. well done. patrice a treat to talk to you. thank you all. coming up, a month since hurricane the irma and maria and hurricane -- sorry, hurricane irma and maria hit puerto rico
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-- how could you grade the white house response? >> i say it was a temperature. we have provided so much, so fast. we were actually there before the storm hit. i would give a ten. >> yet i think our response was better than anyone has ever seen. >> wow. just over a month since hurricane maria made landfall in puerto rico. more than four in five homes have to power and three in ten possess clean drinking water. and congressman from illinois, the administration has given itself a ten out of ten. you're on the ground. what grade would you give them?
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>> look, i just came from visiting communities that have been destroyed. i mean, really, joy, babies living in tents, designed for going out maybe camping a couple of days. senior citizens without oxygen in their tank. i went out with a majority, leader of the puerto rican senate and it's cruel, it's really cruel and inhumane kind of treatment. i met a gorgeous little -- a caribbean princess, 13 years old. you know where she's living? she's living in a stable, where horses were once attended to. that's the kind of desperation. remember, there are hundreds of thousands of people homeless. probably 700,000 to 800,000 that have homes, uninhabitable no roofs, completely destroyed, and haven't left the island. they're with neighbors, friends or just barely surviving. maybe with a little tarp over
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their roop, out of five rooms maybe all living in one. three and four families living in the same home. it's really, really bad. a need for water, a need for medical attention and food. >> go to water and then medical attention. the water issue, one of the most disturbing stories this week, bottled water wasted and thrown away and using sewer water. have you seen that? is anything being done about that? >> i just got to tell you, look, joy. people are desperate, and people want to survive. it's a basic human instinct and they see water flowing out of a mountain side and they're drinking it, filling pails up, taking it back home. everywhere we went people say, where is fema? just kept asking us, where is fema? she have not seen any first responders yet. remember, on this island, again, there are hundreds, but let me suggest this to you. there are only 320 fema inspectors that are expected to
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inspect over -- over half a million homes. how can that be? the help just isn't getting there, and so -- once again, i repeat, but i want to say this, because i think it's important. everybody says, thank you, to the american people. everybody said -- and every leader, every elected leader said, we are receiving more from the american people than the american government, that they elected and they want to say thank you to you, because you're coming through very strong in this time of need. >> apartment quickly, congressman. the other issue, "uss comfort," the hospital ship that could hold roughly 800, military support, 250 beds, almost empty? not a lot of people are on the ship. what is going on with that? >> here's what i believe is going on with that. there just isn't the heart and compassion to understand that in the mountainsides of puerto rico there's an extreme need.
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there are people that are sick. the elderly, infirmed, are in every society before a hurricane. they exist today, and their lives ar at peril. when you see that ship empty, remember, joy, at some point these generators i can hear running all around me at the hospitals, they're going to run out, too. then what kind of crisis are we going to have? you need to bring and get this electrical grid back up and the water flowing to people, and we have the resources. we should have brought them to bear already. >> my god. congressmangutierrez. much of the islands lack power and the entire territory under curfew. beyond statistics and public advisories, a story of american citizens coming together under the most trying of circumstances. last week i visited the only medical center serving the
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islands of st. thomas and st. john, a local hospital devastated by irma and then maria. i found its staff responding with incredible grace under pressure putting the needs of their community above their own. take a look. >> it was like a tornado inside of this area, and the staff -- everyone took the patient, put them on a mattress, four person to each end and we slide them down the stairs. >> reporter: you had to slide them down the stairs on mattress? >> on a mattress, quickly, because we did not know the rest of the unit would be compromised, and they slide the patients down on to the labor and delivery unit, on to one side of the unit, at the same time we had patients actively in labor and were delivering babies, at the same time. >> reporter: and we see all the these wires. take a look. is this telephone wire? what is this? >> just about everything. a yeoman's job of cleaning up,
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electrical, communication, data. the whole nine yards. >> all of this falling as we were moving the patients? >> all falling as we moved patients. made a decision, 20 wheelchairs ready to evacuation. the decision made, felt the window was unsafe. shut off the two doors, the fire doors and evacuated horizontally. >> reporter: this is the only hospital? right? this is it? >> the only hospital serving the st. john and st. thomas direct, getting essentially patients from all over st. john and st. thomas here? >> including other islands. >> bringing people here. >> yeah. >> reporter: operating 24/7, obviously. what percentage of capacity are you at right now? >> probably 20%, 25%. >> reporter: operating 24/7 all of these days. have you had a break? you also are a person that is, maybe lost your own -- lost things yourself? >> i have been in this building
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since the night of september 5ble. >> and have not left? >> leave a couple hours and come back because of the challenges. >> reporter: we talked a little about the sound, what you hear in, for those who have never ridden out a hurricane and you talked a little about that hinge shaking and that's what people are hearing. >> hearing that in here and outside sounds like a freight train is coming. >> some people described it as a hollowing sound. when you asked me to describe it, it evolves so much emotion. sorry. >> reporter: that's okay. >> it evolves so much emotion because when you're going through and you're busy, your thoughts are just safety and the safety of others, but when you think about it, it is so surreal. and the sound is just something you just want to forget. >> reporter: you're a volunteer, central florida, also had a hurricane hit it. a lot of people coming from one hurricane zone to another. how long do you expect to be here? >> another five days. >> reporter: what happens when volunteers leave?
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>> that's -- i don't know. that's really, that really is the hard part, because -- i don't know. >> reporter: in terms of the work you've done working in emergency medicine, have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. >> reporter: no? >> no. i mean, this, hats off to what they have done, and really it is incredible. given that -- this is not give staff, it's not staffed to deal with the volume most of the time. they tend to be a lot quieter, but also staffing people, emotionally, you know, you can run on adrenaline a little while. when you come off that, that's where we're camping them and they're exhausted. >> reporter: despite all of that, resiliency of the people here, in the u.s. virgin islands, incredible. >> it's unbelievable. the people's spirits, you cannot break them. >>s governor of the u.s. virgin islands joins me by phone. governor, thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> thank you.
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when we were there on the ground in st. thomas and st. john, one of the things we saw ubiquitous, presence of the u.s. army, military. saul a lot more of them than fema tarps. what is the status of recovery and is there significant army presses on the ground and is fema there? >> yes, fema is here and troops from 30 states, but a good number playing a support role and then a good number that are augmenting our police force in terms of security as military police. i was touched by the opening piece in terms of the resiliency of the people here. we are, we've got about probably -- 15 to 1,8 blue roofs on. shipping in the module hospitals that we're going to erect there at the snyder opt area and on saint croix, both hospitals were severely damaged with both of these cat 5 hurricanes. still less than 20% of the
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communities, energized by lech tris. the first wave of 300 linemen out with the water and power authority rebuilding the distribution system. so you know, we need help. we -- we're recovering from two cat 5s, but we're making progress, and the strength and resiliency of the people in the territory, as you witnessed, when you were here. >> and you know, governor mapp, i asked about fema. we reached out to fema as we do each week trying to update our viewers what's going on in the u.s. virgin islands and puerto rico. who has pow jer statistics at all. what we got back was a press release touting the great work of fema and how cell service and wire, wi-fi was getting back on and, water advisors but couldn't get a lot of information. are you able to get specific statistics about your own territory? >> yes.
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fema and my government, we worked very close together and i have to tell you that the federal emergency management agency and federal partners have made a tremendous response. while we can, you know, we're making the kind of progress in terms of the recovery. i mean, we've reopened our schools, and -- starting to send children, you know, getting to some sense of normalcy. i mean, this is -- this is my fifth experience with severe hurricanes in the territory. but the -- the reality for us, in the virgin islands and our history with these hurricanes is that we become a central part of our recovery. we get out there with folks. we work with folks. i've sat with fema and meet with them every, twice a week in mornings and they're here every evening and we go to the community and present what we're doing, where we're at with the progress, addressing the concerns. >> yeah. >> you know, there's a whole script recovering from a
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disaster. >> that's true. >> we have to measure it by getting to the quality of life of your folks, and making sure they're safe, they're fed. >> sure. >> and they're being attended to in terms of their medical needs. >> governor kenneth mapp, we hope you'll join us again. we're verify concerned what's going on in u.s.v.i. >> thank you. there's nmore "a.m. joy," next. (butch barks at man) butch is like an old soul that just hates my guts. (laughs) (vo) you can never have too many faithful companions. introducing the all-new crosstrek. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. ...has grown into an enterprise. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. now, i'm earning unlimited 2% cash back
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even while american citizens in puerto rico struggle to find clean water in the weeks after hurricane maria, we can't forget about the crisis in flint, michigan, where some residents are still relying on bottled
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water, more than two years after that crisis began. joining me now is the mayor of flint, michigan, we were there, great to talk with you. i want to start with you you were supposed to have a meeting, to meet with white house leaders over the infrastructure in your city. did that meeting take place and, if so, what happened? >> yes that meeting took place. it was a good first step i would say, one of the things we talked about with a changing administration, we had not had an open line of communication to discuss the challenges the people of flint are facing. so we did get an opportunity to get that dialogue started. >> there was a ruling from a judge that flint needed to make a choice and choose it's long-term drinking water next week. i believe the deadline would be monday from that is correct, that deadline is monday a. decision has not been made. i have signed off on the water recommendation. i am the one that put it forward. i know it was in the best
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interest of being fiscally responsible for flint, it can't be made until monday. >> why can't it get water from the city of detroit hike like it has for so many decades? >> that's what we put forward, we are continuing to get what under the circumstances from detroit, but we would like to lock down this agreement so we can ensure that that's what continues to happen. >> and in the fact that there is a contention over where you get your water, is this about this regional water authority just basically wanting to take the contract no matter what flint wants? >> you know, right now, it's stuck with our council. count sim has to make thatition ask. we've had everybody sign off on this agreement except our city council, that's what we're waiting to happen right now. >> there has been lead testing showing it is showing at 6 parts per billion, flint is now testing under the crisis level that the federal government has said, so why are people in the city of flint still drinking
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bottled water to bathe? >> i'm glad you casked that question the water quality is better. but we have construction going on all over the city of flimpblt when you have that amount of construction going on, you still have to protect yourself and the only way for to us do that is with bottled and filtered water so while progress has been made, we know this process, we're finishing year one, we have two years left before we get all of the lead service lines replaced. so until that happens, we have to stay on bottled and filtered water. >> i think it's hard for americans, in 2017, a super modern american republic cannot fix an infrastructure longer than this you are surprised how long it takes? >> you are absolutely right. we shouldn't get this addressed. that's why one of the this exin reaching out to the mary in puerto rico was to speak up about access to clean, affordable water. and the need for infrastructure.
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>> absolutely. eight parentally if you don't speak up and yell. >> mayor karen weaver, always good to talk to you. >> thank you for watching "a.m. joy." we will be back attorney general stay with msnbc for all the latest news.
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