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nbc kelly o'donnell is at the white house. kelly, what's the latest on this? >> reporter: good afternoon, richard. no excellent officially from the white house. sources i've spoken to here say there isn't something specific enough to give them a place to go with the comment. they just can't be knowledgeable enough on what we have at this point and how if at all it connects to the president or the white house. so lots of still unresolved details that will unfold in the next few days. however, the issue of russia, the investigation, and the sprawling investigations that include different bodies on capitol hill also doing their own investigations and the special counsel. this has been a frequent topic here at the white house. hand sarah huckabee sanders the press secretary has been asked about the white house position on this the and the president's view on the status of the russian investigation a number of times. here's just one of the clips where she goes back and forth about where things stand and how quickly the president wants to see an investigation over.
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>> does he have confidence in bob mueller as special counsel? >> i certainly think he has confidence they are going to close this up soon. >> soon? >> tan this is further evidence of why that should take place. >> why do you say close it up soon? >> i think we are seeing more and more evidence that shows, look, they have been working on this, and investigating this for well into a year through various committees. every day we find out more and more details how the president has been right and democrats have been wrong. >> reporter: and of course what has been happening in the investigation is unknown to us because grand jury works in secret and special counsel's office and attorneys on that team with robert mueller have been tight lipped with what they are doing. we have been able to discern through appearances either testifying on capitol hill or going into the courthouse some of the key figures who have appeared or given some kind of
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sworn testimony or answered questions from investigators. we have talked about paul manafort who served for several mornts as chairman of the trump campaign. also we have talked about michael flynn who had served as white house national security adviser. they may be the most prominent of those who are believed to have some potential criminal exposure. but we have also seen other figures like the president's son and son-in-law who testified about a meeting they had or gave some of their account. i don't know if it was under oath or not. to investigators who are dealing with questions about what might have gone on during the campaign. so the white house, as you can imagine, is anxious for this to be over. is it going to be over as sarah huckabee sanders suggested? far too difficult for us to tell at this point. but a major milestone is expected monday with indictment which could involve more than one individual. what we don't know is who and what the alleged charges would be. are they something that is a part of the investigative
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process? for example, lying to investigators can be a crime. or is it something much more directly related to financial dealings or the financial statements that have to be put into the government under penalty of perjury or the declarations that some of these officials have had to, like michael flynn, had to provide? we just don't know the what yet. but this week it will certainly turn up a notch as the russian investigation takes a new turn. richard? >> kelly at the white house, thank so much my friend. >> with me now former u.s. attorney, we also have jeff mason, kevin, chief washington correspondent for bloomberg news. thanks for having you. i'm going to go straight to the time line because most will say i didn't expect it now. all of you who have been watching this. may 17 that was mueller was appointed. june 14 "washington post" saying investigates trump for instruction of justice.
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paul manafort home raided. now we are six months in here, kendall. and we are hearing that we are going to have an indictment on monday we don't know how many folks or what it includes, as, again, kelly o'donnell was telling us. what do you think? >> it's think it's an efficient time line. i don't think mueller wants to get into the job having an investigation quite a bit longer than his time and not serve the country moving it as quickly as possible. and some decisive steps are needed. for many exam, we know the issue is did trump commit an instruction of justice when he apparently allegedly intervened to help michael flynn what he did with respect to james comey. to answer that question, you really need to find out what his intent is and find out what michael flynn has to say about it. and sometimes that means you bring charges against michael flynn, turn him into a cooperate or and find out what he has to
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say. >> and sara, that is the question as we get news and nbc confirming we expect an in indictment on monday, is who is the special counsel shaking the tree for? who does he hope to flip? who does he hope to fall out of that tree, if you will, to help him in his case? >> well, one name that we've heard over and over again repeated in this context is paul manafort, that there has been pressure on people close to him, subpenaed. we have heard through reports that paul manafort was even warned by mueller team to expect an indictment. so it would be entirely unsurprising if paul manafort was subject. but we have no idea. we know there are a number of people. number of people providing documents. so we really could see just about everyone. but paul manafort is probably one of the likely figures that you'll see face an indictment. but not for collusion, but work he performed before joining the campaign.
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>> then you have to ask yourself, if is this going to be a rolling situation, as a former obama department of justice official was telling folks over at axios, we'll see a lot of what we are seeing on monday over the coming months, it is going to be a busy bunch of months before we hit 2018. >> absolutely. and i think the bottom line what you are starting to hear on capitol hill from both republicans and democrats, richard, is how to prevent this from impacting 2018 and 2020 elections. regardless of who faces charges next week or later on, will is going to be a lot of talk about the for ten agents registration unit or fara as it's called you'll hear about foreign agents registration unit. in particular for how these folks are registering or not registering these lobbyists in both republican and democrat parties when they are representing foreign governments to arrange meetings with government officials or with campaign liaisons. how those meetings are arranged
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and whether or not folks are registering properly with the federal government is definitely going to be a topic of conversation for months to come. on the flip side of that, a point that i would make quickly, richard, is that silicon valley is set to testify on capitol hill as well and for their role in really being a conduit for foreign governments not to do fake news but propaganda during the last presidential cycle. >> and the data that they have, and they might actually bring when they come to the hill, that is going to be essential, not only for those committees but also the special counsel. you know one reporting coming out of politico this month here, jeff, was that the president was eager, his team was eager to have the president talk to the special counsel. and if that didn't happen before christmas, i'm sorry before thanksgiving, if that didn't that trump's lawyers might force the issue by volunteering the president's time. you think that's going to happen? >> well, it's hard to say. i saw that report as well.
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i think that the white house is very eager for this streks to draw it a conclusion. and if putting the president in frongt of robert mueller was one way to do that perhaps that's something they are considering. but going back to one of your previous questions, i think as you look at the ramifications of this in the infection few days, but going even further to the next several months, and next couple of years, not only does this have an impact on potentially on the 2018 midterm elections but in the shorter term it has impact on the president's ability to move his agenda forward. you have the white house last week saying pushing blame or drawing attention to the democrat's role in this. if there is indictment on monday, as everyone is reporting now, that puts the limelight back squarely on the republicans, on this white house, at a time when the president is working on tax reform, new fed chair, and is about to depart for asia for a
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very important trip. >> this will suck the air out of the room. when you look at the potential of the president going with the special counsel, why might that be good or bad? >> that's a very high risk chapter in all this. because remember the special counsel is going to be considering whether or not he believes that the president is being truthful. and to the extent that the president starts to take issue and contradict what james comey said, for example, trump says, no, i never told comey that he had to be loyal to me. what if the special counsel believes comey rather than the president. i have to tell you that is very risky because all it takes is special counsel to conclude the president is lying, and that's false statement, that's obstruction, and, yes, that cob the basis for impeachable offense. >> and sara, this president not known necessarily for his strict use of language, plab you might call him a freelancer, when he
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gets into these situations? >> right. absolutely. i think that you have seen him temper his language when it comes to talk biology the mule tear probe. i think that is a factor of his legal team advising him to be more careful when he talks about the investigation. he's no longer describing it as a witch hunt. he's no longer describing himself necessarily as a victim of something that mueller is doing. no longer going after the special counsel credibilitiment i believe that's a deliberate effort from legal team. and i asked him at the last rose garden if he would do an interview, he side stepped, he has no intention to fire him but blame democrats for creating the russia investigation. >> thank you all for stopping by today. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. we have some new information about the deadly ambush on u.s.
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soldiers in fniger. next we'll talk about u.s. armed services about what went wrong. whoooo.
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why did it take 48 hours to recover mr. johnson's body among many other questions we have? i thought it was a good briefing. we got a lot of good detail. and we are making progress. and there is a commitment from the administration to keep us briefed. >> that was following mccain's briefing on the details emerging now about that ambush. the four americans were part of a broader operation to capture and kill islamic state operative. but the group became separated equipped with only light
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firearms. no match against the heavily armed isis militants that were there. how the team became separated and why it took two days to recover the body of sergeant la david johnson is some of the questions that remain unanswered. joining me now is congressman a democratic of the house arms committee that was on the pentagon briefing. great to have you with us. >> great to have you. >> before we get to that i want to get your thought on the mueller indictment. what we understand to be coming down on mon dale. >> well, certainly i and i think everybody within 100 miles of wa washington d.c. is most anxious for monday to arrive. we are curious what is going to happen here. many of us are deeply concerned about this presidency what has happened for transpired, what kind of collusion or other things have taken place. there is it an awful lot of smoke. and monday i think we'll see some of the fire. >> less politics, more legal, if
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you will, as they were saying, my colleague here on msnbc. i want to switch now to the topic, that is the briefing on niger, why the united states is there, what our interest is there, what our objectives are. what did you learn? what did you hear? >> very, very little on those three fundamental points. we heard a lot about what actually happened during the fire fight before and after. all of which is important. certainly useful for us to know. but the larger question about what is happening across that broad swath of africa from atlantic ocean all the way over to the horn of africa, that is extremely important. and, frankly, we haven't heard enough about that. we need to understand what is the mission, what are we trying to accomplish, and how did it come about. >> what did you learn about the strength of isis from that briefing? >> it varies. in some parts of that sa hill, all the way from the western
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part of africa to ethiopia anza mo somalia they have been strong in that area. there have been many attacks in that area. fortunately the french government is the principal military force along with the local governments in this case niger to the east, chad, all of those things are critically important to us that we have a good relations with the countries involved, and in this case very close operating relations with the frenchs soldiers in that area who actually outnumber us five or six to 1. these were previously french colonies. you may have heard of the french foreign region, this is where they operate. >> finally tax reform. freedom kau sus involved in all this. your thoughts hand your work on reaching some compromise on tax reform coming this week. >> well, i've certainly talked
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to my friends over in the freedom caucus, mr. meddles and i have had discussions. frankly very, very far apart. he once was a deficit hawk, apparently no long ser a deficit hawk. and quite willing to run up a huge deficit. we are talking about perhaps as much as $3 million of tax cuts over the next decade. that's $300 billion a year. 80% of that goes to the top 1% of taxpayers. these are the super wealthy americans who are going to get 80% of that two or $3 trillion offer the next decade. that's terrible for the american economy. this is going to make this income and inequality issue worse, particularly if republicans are successful in eliminating estate tax, so not only getting the swapping tax cuts, but they'll be able to pass it onto their children. in other words, consolidate wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people as the years go by.
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>> congressman from california, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> all right. here's some new questions that are surrounding the $300 million contract awarded to montana power company called whitefish. interior secretary ryan zinke said he had nothing to do with that is correct though the small energy company is based in the small hometown of his in whitefish.
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take a stand on impeachment. a republican congress once impeached a president for far less. yet today people in congress and his own administration know that this president is a clear and present danger who's mentally unstable and armed with nuclear weapons. and they do nothing. join us and tell your member of congress that they have a moral responsibility to stop doing what's political and start doing what's right. our country depends on it. >> thanks for staying with us. nbc news confirming first charges in the russia investigation has been made. grand jury has issued an indictment served on monday robert mueller special counsel. also new revelations about the dossier that does connections between russia and trump campaign part of which has been confirmed while some more
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salacious elements remain unverified. on friday night the washington freebie con had hired the firm behind the dossier fusion gps on statement online it said it had retained fusion gps but had no knowledge what became of the christopher steele dossier on trump. by the hillary clinton and dnc campaign. joining me now, rick tyler, and also have adrian el rod. thank you both for being here. i'll start with you on this. what did you know about what we are reporting now related to the dossier? >> well, in terms of the campaign, what i knew from the campaign, i didn't handle research, that wasn't part of my thing. but, look, you know, moving forward still so many unanswered questions in this investigation. i think looking forward to
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monday, this is a day that many of us have been waiting for in washington d.c. and around the country for months at least. so it's going to be very interesting to see what bob mueller comes down with. is it going to be carter page? is it going to be roger stone? who is it? mike flynn? so really interesting to see ha happens on monday. >> so you were not aware of any payments coming from the dnc or clinton campaign for in op research? >> no, i wasn't. but that again was not rye role my role on the campaign. >> and she was also bringing up what is going to be happening on monday, mueller investigation, we have the in indictment, we don't know, again, it can be one person or group of individuals. and just for context look back to the watergate investigation that had 69 individuals in the end were indicted. when this news came out in the last 24 hours i can't imagine the shiver that went through washington d.c. and the beltway. >> and part of it, richard, it may be someone who per injurjur
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them served. what they are doing is doing a time line and understanding their facts of the time line. and if they catch someone lying they'll prosecute on perjury. but it could be paul manafort. it cob any number of people. we don't know at this point. but i suspect this is not nearing the end. this is probably the beginning. this could go on for weeks, months, maybe even years. >> that's what makes the difference here, asterisk was saying. we didn't think it was going to happen so early. we are six months in. this started in may when we were just looking at time line moments ago. and this could be wave after wave after wave which will make it difficult for republicans as they look at 2018. but then on the flip side the question is can the democrats pull it together as well? >> yeah, look, i mean first of all democrats are pulling it together. resistance is united like it never has been before. we are flipping many of these state legislative seats that
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even donald trump carried in the general election back to democrats. so we are doing great work and rebuilding. i feel very good about the state of the democrat party. but back to the investigation, i agree completely with rick. i think this is just the beginning. i think some of the people or person being indicted on monday could have per jurd them self. i think it's very interesting trump has not been quite as critical of bob mueller in last few weeks on twitter. i think he knows something was coming down the pike. so again it's going to be interesting day on monday. >> one of the thoughts looking at the headlines of uranium one and dossier, that is what is the redirection on the narrative. and, rick, if that is it what is happening right now, one has to look into did the white house, did republicans get a head nod
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this was happening and imminent that special counsel was going to be doing something on monday so they need to get an ahead of this? >> it seems likely. so many different parts of this, richard, it's hard for people to decipher it all. but basically on the clinton parts you have different parts, you have uranium one, that's canadian company, they bought shares that does mining in wyoming. they can't export that. that didn't have to be approved. it could have been stopped by number of people including obama but it wasn't so president trump said she a proved it, she didn't stop it either. president bill clinton got 500,000 speech with related donor involved in those companies. then in indictment of a trucking company. i mean, now none of these things in diets anybody. and taking the speech is not
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illegal. a lot of these things aren't illegal but a there is a lot of smoke to throw around to confuse people. but i suspect mueller and his team are going to carefully go through the time line. they are going to figure it out. and the chips will fall where they may. we have one indictment. we'll see what happens. >> lan you encapsulated it so well. which part do you want to talk about it? "new york post" reporting that veselnitskaya was working with the kremlin. of course i'm alluding to the meeting at trump tower with donald trump junior in 2016 as well as manafort. and she offered damaging intelligence on dnc and clinton. she met with him prior to the trump tower visit. we also understand the memo that was alluded to and used and mimicked that which has been used by other russian officials, including vladimir putin himself. so adrian, this is another part
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of what was a busy, busy week, when it comes to the russia story. >> yeah. i mean, look, i agree with rick, there is a lot of information that's constantly coming at us, hard to keep track of all this. but the one thing that i think is very important to point out with this meeting that donald trump junior said oh, this is not a big deal, we weren't trying to get any dirt on hillary clinton. we weren't trying to use anything from this meeting against her. this just adds one more level of mana murkiness. so again i'm confident bob mueller will get to the bottom of this. he had such a stellar reputation as being a nonbipartisan go by the law really looking into a lot of these issues. so i'm absolutely confident he's looking at this new piece of information regarding that meeting with don trump junior and will use this towards trying to seek more information. >> 20 seconds to you rick, do you think it's going to be the
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inner circle we'll hear about on monday? >> no, i really don't. and i think in the end you probably don't get direct coordination with the trump campaign. there actually is nothing in the law that makes collusion illegal. conspiracy is illegal. not reporting of financial disclosure, there is a lot of illeg illegalalty. so the beat will go on. >> we'll look for obstruction of justice, that seems to be the thing that most are watching. thank you so much. all right. have a good saturday. naacp issues warning for african americans flying on american airlines. we'll talk to two passengers that were kicked off their flight by the airline. what started as a passion...
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racial insensitivity and possible racial bias on the part of american airlines. the airline itself says it was disappointed to learn of the travel advisory and reached out to the naacp and says it will not do discrimination of any kind. joining me now is the women's march on washington. she was removed from her flight and catalyst for the naacp travel advisory. also joining me is harvard law student also kicked off american airlines flight. thank you both for joining me today. >> thank you. >> why is this action needed against american airlines? >> well, obviously there is a problem. i certainly have received correspondence from so many people who are complaining about incidents on american airlines and other airlines, but particularly focusing on american airlines. and there is an issue that we see in terms of protocols and
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procedures and how pilots are being allowed to throw people off flights who are nonthreatening disputes. both of us had issues nonthreatening. there was no act of craziness jewelling at a pilot or anyone else prior to them throwing us off flights. so we are really trying to understand why this is happening. and people should not have to deal with paying for a ticket, being a consumer, and then being treated in the way in which i've particularly was treated. being discriminated against, intimidation, and other things that many people have suffered. >> and to drill down on those experiences that you are describing, we'll go to breanna sitting next to you, you were with your four month old baby and you encountered a difficult situation. briefly describe what happened. >> yes. so we were frying from atlanta to new york when i asked for ply
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stroller after a five hour delay. and the normal protocol is for them to retrieve strollers and wheelchairs, however i was rejected by a crew member who said she was not able to get my stroller. and when i asked for the stroller again, and told her i was unable physically really to leave the plane without the stroller because i had this four month old who is sleeping at this time in my arms, along with three bags, she said she is unable again. and she says okay we'll get the captain. and it was my understanding i was thinking that the captain was going to come over and a mel yat the situation. however, when he came over, he was very aggressive. he was very disgruntled and pointed a the me if i didn't get off his plane whrks the other passengers rebordered after this five hour delay, i would be not be getting back on. he decided to bring law enforcement when i again requested my stroller. then when law enforcement came he said i was a threat despite not raising my voice above a
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whisper. >> american airlines has contacted you, they want to set up a meeting. >> yes. >> because of the story that she brought up as well as yourself, because you were also had a dispute with american airlines, as we were describing a little earlier. what are you going to ask for? what would you like from american airlines? >> well, you know, as i mentioned, there is clearly a problem. we have been doing our own investigation. they say they are doing investigation. but we have been doing one as well. and the department of transportation has reported that american airlines is one of the worst in terms of having the most racial discrimination complaints of any airline in the united states. that for us is very serious. >> who found that? >> the department of transportation. >> dot? >> yeah. and for me, this really smells like discrimination. i know what happened to me was discrimination. and when we go into that meeting, we want to ensure that this does not continue.
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and only way that that happens is that people have to open up the books, the rules, we have to be able to find out what type of policies and procedures are in place that protect people. and that put accountability measures in place where if a pilot travels to work with his biases on their back, they are not able to make decisions based upon race, based upon particular groups, that it has to be considered a threat, a real threat, that there has to be something that they can explain that shows that a person is an actual threat on an aircraft, and i know that in my particular situation, and i seriously believe in breanna, that was not there, so we are trying to understand why we were thrown off flights. no one has been able to explain that yet. and i believe that american airlines, if they want to do what's right, they would make god. and not spend time trying to spin the story, trying to come up with excuses, but really ensure that they do the work to
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correct this problem and that they ensure that the people who are complaining are heard and are treated fairly. >> breanna, they in their statement from american airlines, a spokesman said our team members are diverse members who are proud to serve customers of all backgrounds. every day american is positive safe experience who travels with us. do you feel though, based 0en wh on that, that there was bias included in your situation? >> i think that there was definitely bias included. i think they can highlight their initiatives, however if they are not put into practice, we are all put at disadvantage. i think this statute does give them correctly a widespread discretionary ability to eject passengers nonthreatening. hour, when this widespread discretion eventually ventures
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into ejecting nonthreatening, then that discretionary ability is subverted at that point. then we have a problem because these groups are being targeted. so they can continue their racism or policies on racism, however if they are not put into practice it doesn't mean anything. >> thank you both for telling us your stories, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. next, inside the jfk assassination, files and the tempt to keep some of those documents still sealed. i just got my cashback match,
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well, after years of anticipation, we are finally getting our first look at secret government files for the assassination of jfk. last minute president vowed to
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pressure then only revealing 2,800 miles delaying the rest of those 200 for six months. friday the president tweeted, jfk files are being carefully released. in the end there will be great transparency. it is my hope to get just about everything to public. with us now professor historian at the houston austin. then with the jeff mason as well from reuters. we'll start with you, bill, on this. i'm sure you poured through all 2,800 pages already. what are we learning? >> well, i haven't poured through all 2,800 pages yet. but i can say that what we are learning is what we already knew, and not much that we didn't know. we know more about what the fbi new about lee harvey oswald in the time before the kennedy assassination. we know a little bit more of the reminded about what the cia attempts to senate fidel castro.
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but the big question everyone wants to know was there a conspiracy. was there more than lee harvey oswald behind this. we don't know anymore than two days ago. >> now the real focus in addition to all that, city, as activities there, more details on that that we need to get to. as you look at that, the secret service did not open up a protective file until assassination day. so jeff, as we look at some of the details, though there are not a lot necessarily, more questions and more fuel for those looking at the conspiracy theories. >> especially because not all the documents were released. this is something people have been waiting for for decades, and even president trump was frustrated that the fbi and the cia were pressuring him not to release all the documents. so the fact that there are still some that were not released will continue to fuel some of those -- some of that
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speculation, and i think we'll see in the coming days and weeks more of those documents coming out. the president promised they would continue to come out, some of them redacted. and within six months, demand that the fbi and the cia and any other agencies that are speaking out against that release are v a second look or review of all those documents and defend why they shouldn't be at that time. >> as we look at this, sarah, the president does like conspiracy theories. there was, of course, birtherism which we've covered extensively throughout recent years. why do you think the president is so fascinated by this stuff? >> we know president trump has long had this sort of mistrust of intelligence agencies. he add promised via twitter a couple days before the jfk files were released that everything was going to be put forward. we did learn that he was frustrated that the spy agencies were coming to him saying that several hundred documents needed to be withheld and reviewed
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further to see whether they could be released to the public. so president trump, he was pushing back on the intelligence agencies. he's frequently criticized and questioned the intelligence committee's conclusions. he had already made the claim that all these documents were going to be put forward. >> another detail from the documents that were released, and to you on this, bill, british newspaper reporter according to these documents received an anonymous call that happened about 25 minutes before the jfk assassination did happen. he told him to call the u.s. embassy for some big news. what do you make of that? >> well, i don't know what to make of it. and perhaps we'll learn more about it when the rest of the documents are released. quite possibly it's just one of any number of false positives that come into the intelligence and law enforcement authorities. we know this because we're looking at this.
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maybe there were 25 others in the week ahead that had nothing to do with the kennedy assassination. this one stands out because it seems to be connected, at least temporally. >> you know, on this, jeff, how much of the remaining documents because i think bill is alluding to there's still more data out there. how much more might we get in the remaining several hundred, 200 other documents? the ultimate question we want to have an answer to is will we ever know, right? >> it's hard to say what else is going to be left in those remaining documents. historians and analysts and others who have studied this for years have said, as you've been reporting, too, that probably there's no new smoking gun in those documents. it's going to be telling us more of what we know and we've seen that with what's been released so far. but the fact that there's still a lot staying behind closed doors, as it were, is something that will continue to fuel those questions. >> maybe this might be part of those documents. since we're in the way-back
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machine, sarah, ill ooh e stay in the way-back machine. remember when candidate trump was coming after ted cruz, his father, saying it's disgraceful his father was with lee harvey as wald. thursday senator cruz responded to the question by nbc news about, if the release of the jfk files would vindicate his father. he says, you know, politics is a strange process. there are ludicrous claims and claims that go beyond ludicrous and this one falls into the latter category. a little back and forth between those two. >> that was sort of a ridiculous moment during the presidential campaign when president trump went after cruz's father for somehow being involved if this conspiracy. i don't think we're going to learn anything even remotely close to that from these remaining documents. a lot of times what you see when agencies are withholding documents of this nature is
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because they want to protect sources and methods or protect embarrassing instrument, demonstrations of incompetence, places where security, intelligence agencies, investigators fell short in the '60s when they were looking into this or the run-up to the assassination. >> our great reporters, sarah westwood and jeff mason as well. we'll be right back. so we sent that sample off to ancestry. my ancestry dna results are that i am 26% nigerian. i am just trying to learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it's a hat, but it's like the most important hat i've ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. when this guy got a flat tire
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