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korea. >> in seoul. looking how he speaks about the nuclear position and what does he sade about trade to the north koreans? this president a few months wanted to renegotiate our parade agreement with south korea, and that has rattled our allies there. so we'll see how aggressively he confronts that. >> always rattling. phil rucker, thank you for being here, and all of the others. that does it for me, nicolle wallace. here the katy tur, in for chuck todd on "mtp daily." and why the gun control debate never seems to move forward. >> and i think that mental health is your problem here. plus, the mueller investigation focusing in on the president's former national security adviser and his son. what the pressure on mike flynn
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could mean for the white house. and "meet the press" at 70. >> alternative facts are not facts. they're falsehoods. >> we'll look at continuing legacy of television's longest running show, which launched on this day in 1947. this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. hello and welcome to "mtp daily." i'm katy tur in new york if nor chuck todd. tonight we're following again the developments of a mass shooting. we've gotten to the point it isn't just that gun violence and mass shootings are a sad and predictability reality in this country, but where the political response to them is just as sad and just as predictable. when these things happen, pretty much all republicans say now is not the time to talk gun laws. democrats say, now is the exact time to talk gun laws. the end result --
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nothing happens. and today, while the people of sutherland springs, texas are mourning lost loved ones and praying for the wounded, both sides stuck to their usual scripts. the republican deflection once again on full display including from the white house. >> and i think that mental health is your problem here. this isn't a guns situation. i mean, we could go into it, but it's a little bit soon to go into t. the rush to judgment particularly by people who are just to see politics and trump derangement in every single thing they do it doesn't help the victims and is disrespectful to the dead. >> it is an unfortunate thing that the immediate place the media goes after any tragedy, after any murder is politicizing it. we don't need politics right now. >> many democrats are saying if not now -- then when? >> i reject the notion that it is too soon to act.
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we should ban assault weapons and bump stocks today. people who don't want to have an honest conversation say we need to wait. well, for how long? after each of these horrific contacts of violence, what happened here in congress? nothing. >> less than a week ago, eight people were killed in new york. it only took few hours then for the president to immediately call for policy changes. of course, that was called a terrorist attack, and was caused by an oouzbek immigrants who ca to the u.s. on a visa. and now the suspect now dead is devin kelly. he was in the air force, court-martial ared in 2012 for fracturing his baby son's skull and assaulting his wife. he was confined a year and given
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a court-martial. he shouldn't have been able to buy a gun even in a state with such low regulations. that's the point by texas officials. there are already enough gun laws in place. >> current law as it exists right now should have prevented him from being able to get a gun, under the current system of federal law, he should have been prevented from being able to make this purchase. how that got through the cracks, i don't have that information. >> if this guy -- this guy sounds to me shouldn't have had this weapon anyway. there were already laws in place. i guess my argument is, adding new gun laws wouldn't have changed this situation. this guy was willing to violate essentially gun laws already in place and violated the law. >> authorities are still trying to piece together what they say was a domestic dispute leading him to kill 26 people, age 18 months to 77 years of age.
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and he opened fire at a church during sunday morning services. joining me now, congressman henry queller, who represents the area of texas where this shooting occurred. congressman, thank you very much for joining us, and i'm so sorry for your district this evening. >> thank you. >> what can you tell the people of your community, the people of your district, the families are victims, the victims themselves, about what happened yesterday? >> you know, certainly this is a small tight-knitted community where everybody -- everybody know s each other. something that people just didn't think evil to descend in a small community like sutherland springs or even at this house of worship. i was saying yesterday there has to be a connection or nexus to have somebody come in from north of san tanio to southeast of san antonio, it wouldn't have been
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random, there had to be a connection. and in the investigation that's coming out, it was exactly that. >> have you been able to talk to any of the families of the victims in this shooting? >> no, i have not. i hoped to be there wednesday. yesterday i planned to be there but thought it was a time for law enforcement, both state, local, federal, the sheriff, i spoke to him several times. i thought it was a time for them to do their investigation, but my office was there to provide all the services because we visit there at least once a month. i hope to be there wednesday and this weekend again. >> what are state and local officials doing to help the victims? >> there are different agencies that are there. the red cross. there's certainly some of the catholic services providing that. on saturday we intend to bring everybody together. all the different support services, to make sure that we provide all of the assistance we can provide as a community.
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>> you yourself are a big guns rights advocate. you get money from the nra. you went on fox saying gun regulations wouldn't stop that sort of thing from happening. now that it's happened in your backyard, congressman cuellar, do you feel differently than you did a month ago? >> again, if somebody wants to kill somebody, katy, they're going to find a way. look what happened in new york. the use of a vehicle, used a truck. we've seen that in other parts of europe. we saw 9/11 it was an airplane. we've seen people kill people with knives and even with their bare hands. again, if somebody wants to kill somebody, they're going to find a way to do it. >> we live in the only place in the entire world, congressman, where these sort of shootings happen. the only place in the entire world. yeah, you're right. people will kill people if they want to kill people, but this is a 26-year-old person who walked into a church and killed victims
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as young as 18 months, babies, with a semiautomatic rifle. ar-15. the same rifle we've seen used over and over again in mass shootings. do you think it's acceptable just to say that you know, someone wants to kill someone, they're going to kill someone? >> well, i mean, again, do you want to ban trucks, because a truck was used? do you want to ban an airplane -- >> i don't their we're -- >> let me finish. you asked me a question. i let you ask the question. let me answer the question, if you can. so do you want to ban trucks because they used a truck in new york? do you want to ban airplanes because a terrorist used it in 9/11? again, you know, there were some laws in place. we're going to find out why he was able to get the guns under the circumstances that you mentioned at the very beginning. so, again, i want to look at the investigation. i want to see if there's any lessons learned, and we're going to take a look at that. keep in mind, also, the person
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that probably saved some lives yesterday was a resident from there that we saw that, you know, he use add weapon to scare him off. and it was okay for this suspect to use a gun at a church, but the moment somebody confronted him with a gun, he ran away like a coward. got in his vehicle and took off. so i will be looking at the facts. >> and a coward for shooting those people, not running away, but both, i guess. >> both. >> here's the thing about cars and airplanes. they're not designed to kill. cars and airplanes are not designed to kill. guns are designed to kill. secondarily, after this incident in new york, the president immediately came out and said we've got to strengthen our visa flaws. after terrorism with planes, immediate sense of what can we do to stop this? how can we strengthen our border, vet people more properly, get to backgrounds? seems gun violence, the answer, well, it's going to happen? >> well, no. i think we need to do more than
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that, and, again, you are right in the fact if this would have been somebody named mohammed or somebody with a hispanic name, i think the reaction would have been a little different for some people and i don't agree when people have that type of reaction. i'm looking at what the facts are. i'm looking at what the investigation is. and we'll certainly be happy to talk about this again. >> do you think there's a connection between domestic violence and these mass shootings? we've seen a number of shootings in the past where the attacker is somebody who had done something to his wife in the past and had come out or found himself in a situation where he was under a restraining order and then went on the offensive. >> you know, again, we don't know what happened in las vegas, whether it was domestic violence, what happened in sandy hook, where they shot the young kids. domestic violence it does play a role in some cases, but in some cases, like we saw in las vegas,
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like we saw in sandy hook, there was no domestic violence, at least from what i remember. again, does a play a role sometimes? yes, it does. >> you're one of the few who came out against, came out for a vote that became law earlier in the year making it harder for people with mental illnesses to buy a gun. do you have any second thoughts on that? >> no. again, it's who declares somebody to be mentally ill. is it a judge or a bureaucrat? so -- there is an issue. if you look at that vote. there was a little bit behind it than just putting it just the way you said it. it's who declares somebody to be mentally ill? >> do you think that there should be any limits at all to the second amendment? >> any what again? >> any limits at all to the second amendment? you can't scream "fire" in a krauted theater. should there be limits at all to the second amendment. i think there are limits already.
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>> what are they? >> laws that -- well, i mean, not everybody can get a gun. i mean, there is some, some background. there is -- >> that's not consistent around the entire country. >> well, again, let me answer your question again. you asked me, there are some limits. there are some limits right now. to the second amendment. do i believe in the second amendment? yes. do i believe in the first amendment, yes, until we make some changes to the constitution, those are some of the basic constitutional rights that we have. >> but i was hoping to find out whether or not you think there should be any limits. i presume your answer is, no? >> no. i just told you. there are some limits under the law right now. >> congressman quacuellar, than you for your time and sorry for all the constituents in your community, all the constituents who have gone through what is an unthinkable and disgusting tragedy. thank you, sir. >> thank you for your condolences and prayers. thank you. >> thank you. let's go to our panel.
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edd eddie glaude, and senior eder for politics here, and republican strategist susan del percio. let's react to that. cuellar obviously is going through a lot. his constituents are going through a lot. but when we -- when we have these tragedies, it's feeling a bit rote. everything we do is the same. if it's a gun tragedy, we can't talk about it yet. it's too soon. so what do we do? talk about vegas now? now, since it's too soon to talk about what happened in texas? >> well, seems to me first of all, my heart goes out to all of the folk whose have lost loved ones. an 18-month-old, just boggles the mind. someone 77 years old, worshipping, losing their lives. losing your life in that context just boggles the mind, but it seems to me it is a ritual practice. right? that we declare our helplessness
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in the face of such carnage, because we really are beholden to not just the nra but the gun manufacturers. you said no one wins. actually someone's winning. the people who produce the gun are winning right now. >> is it the nra or the single issue voters who will not vote for a politician if they vote for gun laws? and there isn't the opposite of that. there aren't single issue anti-gun voters out there pushing bark against the interests of the other group of people? that other group? >> we've seen it time and again and to your point about congressman cuellar he seems to be saying, primary republican politicians and people who live in rural areas, of course, this community is one. they cherish their trite have a g right to have the a gun and will never, ever give that up. if that means the occasional or frequent mass shooting,
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accidental shooting of children, shooting of the ed elderly they accept that as the price for the freedom to have a gun. >> not just them. we americans are acceptable of these shootings. i clearly think we are, because we all are accepting of this because nothing changes. every single one of us is responsible for these deaths that happen, now it seems to be all the time. two in just the last month. >> yes. i kept thinking when i listened to this, listened to the congressman speak. when we heard about the opioid epidemic, all of a sudden said, look at doctors. writing three times the amount of prescriptions. we must regulate them. stop it, because it seemed like something that was just so terrible, and so many people have been affected by it. yet when we say, we know there are loopholes when it comes to gun shows, or that we're not willing to put people on a list when it comes to, for screening, and mental health issues, we're not willing to take that step
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when it comes to guns, that's the biggest problem and it comes down to politics because it's not so much like you said, an anti-second amendment group, but the people who do support the second amendment -- >> but people might want stronger gun control, but are not such a -- what i'm saying, the people who are for the second amendment, anything you look to take away is everything. it's just a way -- it's an absolute to them. you're not hallowed to touch it fear it gets worse and it's a slippery slope down and a lack of leaders in washington trying to get something done. when is the time? every single time -- >> a lack of leaders or a lack of americans in general? >> the polling data shows most folks want -- >> they want stronger regulations, but they're not willing to vote -- vote on those as a single issue for them. whereas gun voters are willing to vote on it as a single issue. >> right. i think we have to -- that's a really interesting conundrum but
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it's important to say a majority of americans want regulation. and these are assault weapons. >> during newtown, every tragedy is horrible. don't get me wrong -- >> katy, it is an american problem and rural communities -- care about their guns very passionately and are much more heavily represented in the electoral klemp and in congress than urban areas are. we live in new york city where new york has strict gun laws and we have few gun deaths in the city. >> mass casualties at least. >> yeah. people choose to live where they live and in certain communities we are happy to walk down the street without a gun and not concerned someone will shoot us. >> people come to the city and get arrested all the time for having a gun. they don't realize they're not allowed. >> is it a mental health issue
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or a gun issue? >> every person in the united states h states -- in the world has a mental issue. >> and certain communities in l.a., a gun issue in oakland. the not just mental health. a country is awash with these weapons. >> what is the solution. >> to be honest, first of all, when you have a congress person come on television and say, people who are going to commit murder are going to commit murder no matter the laws. in fact suggesting or she is, that anarchy should reign, that's stupid. as long as we have stupidity reigning we'll have this. burying an 18-month-old. until we get beyond the politics and drama of the politics and decide we're not going to allow 18-month-old babies to be buried because of a dispute. i lost an uncle over a domestic dispute. i've lost people to guns. not to assault weapons, but to
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guns. right? until we get honest about this, we're going to find ourselves on this hamster wheel over and over again and have to call people to the carpet. >> to that congressman's point, we do have restrictions. you cannot have certain weapons in your home. can't have an uzi, for example, can't put land mines -- we can regulate this as a society but the will has to be there and i agree with eddie, it's about the guns 1,000%. >> we can't even make bump stocks illegal. >> i was going to ask that. what happened to that? it was a month ago. >> a semiautomatic weapon. >> let's talk about this again. stick around. we'll come back to you later. next, bob mueller puts pressure on former national security advisers mike flynn and his son. could there be fallout for the white house? is that whole thing still dragging on? no, i took some pics with the app and... filed a claim, but... you know how they send you money to cover repairs and... they took forever to pay you, right? no, i got paid right away, but... at the very end of it all, my agent...
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special counsel robert mueller's probe tell nbc news there is now enough evidence to bring criminal charges in the investigation into the president's former national security adviser, michael flynn, and his son. these charges could include money laundering, lying to federal agents or maybe even bribe bribery. michael flynn's son could be indicted according to these sources, but here's an added wrinkle. if -- if, if, if -- his father cooperates with mueller's team it might limit his son's legal trouble. that sets up a potentially dramatic turn of events, because if flynn starts talking, that could complicate things for the white house. and possibly even the president. remember, back in june former fbi director james comey testified under oath president trump directed him to drop the fbi's investigation into -- you guessed it -- michael flynn. president trump denies those allegations but our reporting indicates mueller has been seriously examining it as part
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of his probe. now that prosecutors have the evidence they need to charge flynn, the big question is -- will they? it may depend on what he tells them or doesn't and the russia headache does not stop there for the white house. because a massive leak of financial documents has ensnared their commerce secretary wilbur ross. these leaks show ross that investments in a company with deep ties to the russian government. and he didn't clearly disclose that russian relationship when vetted by the senate. ross denied doing anything wrong and called the story nonsense. we are going to break it all down with help from a former watergate prosecutor coming up in 60 seconds.
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nick, thanks for being here. let's get right to it. first, we had manafort and gates. flynn could be next. >> right. >> do you see this as being a path that might go up as far as the white house? >> oh, i think it definitely is. because what they're doing is, they're starting wit peop ininge really in the know. going for the jugular. manafort a campaign manager, dealing not only with donald trump but dealing with everybody around donald trump. >> you think this goes up to trump himself? >> it certainly could. certainly prosecutors will ask him what did trump know, when did he know it, what was he involved in? >> what will robert mueller's road map be to get to that point? >> i think it's multifaceted in the sense he's going for the two people he's got the most evidence on to try and get them to turn. one is -- is manafort. clearly. and the other one is flynn. both of those people know different aspects of this entire russian investigation.
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and i think he's going to go for those first, but also going to go for low-level people like papadopoulos. i think there are lots of people out there that we have not even heard about yet that mueller is speaking to. they're going before grand jury and you'll find other people like papadopoulos who are going to turn and sing. >> this is your gut feeling on this and experience as a prosecutor. you don't know anything for sure, right? >> i don't know anything for sure but i know how the system works. and the way it works is, you go -- try and go after people who know information. you get them to do things to corroborate what you're saying. for example, papadopoulos was out there for two moss, three months, before it was finally unsealed, the information. i guarantee you that during that time they were trying to get him to meet with people, record conversations. try and get other people to talk about their dealings with papadopoulos. >> you think that's standard
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operating procedure for an investigation like this. oh, sure. absolutely. >> and is it ludicrous to think that maybe bob mueller might be trying to squeeze flynn by going after his son? >> not at all. that's a pretty typical sort of strategy used by prosecutors. >> that's harsh. >> it's harsh, but it happens all the tile. hei time. you did it with tax cases. go after a family member and that kind of shakes things up a bit. >> what could he be trying to get floin divulge? >> i think flynn knows a good deal what went on during the campaign. as you mentioned in the opening, donald trump is worried about flynn. he's worried about flynn to the point where he went to director comey and asked him to drop the investigation. >> what about those that flynn had contact with while he was in the white house? what sort of legal exposure might they be under? >> i think they could wind up being in trouble as well and he knows information about don
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junior, about jared kushner, dealt with him, dealt with the russian ambassador. he's in a position to talk about a lot of different people. >> not to mention what james woolsey describes as this -- this plot, this plan, to smuggle out somebody in america, a cleric, a rival of presidentered juan erdogan and get him back to turkey. >> while national security adviser, right. >> paid for lobbying or formerly paid for lobbying. we're getting a bit of information about what's going on in the -- not a ton but a bit of information that leads us to these stories that we're covering now. does that hurt or help the investigation? how does it work for mueller when he turns on the news and sees all this on tv? >> i don't think you really get much impact from that. i mean, in terms of what the prosecutors do, i mean, i was on the other side of the coin before this.
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and i always found it interesting, because the press really never knew exactly what was going on. for example, december of '73, we had the tapes, the nixon tapes. >> and the press had no idea. >> had no idea. wasn't until august or later all of this came out and at that point i knew that nixon was toast. >> could very likely be mueller has something we have no idea about? >> no question about it. there's a lot -- papadopoulos is a prime example of that. >> and we're getting more and more people in this administration not disclosing their ties to russia. wilbur ross is now the latest. what's your take on that? >> i think this is absolutely outrageous and downright scary that we have people at the top of the government that are partners, in fact, with the russians. with putin's family, in an investment in this company. >> could it be innocuous? >> doesn't sound that way. interesting here, wilbur ross told the senate committee he was
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going to divest himself of all investments and one of the few he doesn't get out of is the one that he's in with, with putin's relatives. i mean, that, to me, speaks volumes. i mean, first of all, it's totally unethical. a complete conflict of interests with the commerce department, which has jurisdiction over the sanctions. and it's probably criminal. i mean, depending on what kinds of representations he made to the senate committee. >> we'll see about that. i talked to richard painter. he didn't say anything criminal in what he knows today good to see you. and still ahead, will the democratic divide blow up the virginia race for governor? stay with us. ♪ everyone deserves attention,
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welcome back. the fbi is investigating an attack that put senator rand paul in the hospital. it could take months to recover after police say he was blindsided and attacked by his neighborhood on saturday. five ribs broken in the altercation and not clear when he'll return to work. sources tell nbc news that the senator was mowing his lawn at the time of the incident. his 59-year-old neighbor has been charged with fourth-degree assault. but the neighbor's motive for allegedly beating up paul is still a mystery. that man's lawyer said it had nothing to do with politics, calling it "a very regrettable dispute between two neighbors over a matter most people would
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regard as trivial." a source told nbc news that there was a disagreement over a property line, but said that a political argument was possible, too. neither the senator nor his office have offered a possible explanation. the two men apparently hadn't spoken in years. president trump has promised a speedy overhaul of the tax code by christmas. but paul's absence is already slowing down work in the senate. they were supposed to vote on nominees about now. those votes have been delayed. we'll be right back. they're defined by accomplishments. by victories. by those with the resourcefulness, the ingenuity, and the grit to help ensure the next energy to power our dreams, will be american energy.
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take a stand on impeachment. a republican congress once impeached a president for far less. yet today people in congress and his own administration know that this president is a clear and present danger who's mentally unstable and armed with nuclear weapons. and they do nothing. join us and tell your member of congress that they have a moral responsibility to stop doing what's political and start doing what's right. our country depends on it. it's regrettable that donna thought this was the time to come out with this complaint. i mean, god love the democratic party, but we -- >> pretty bad timing for tuesday? >> very bad timing. >> you heard it there from current virginia governor and former dnc chairman terry mcauliffe. bad timing. many facing what many consider a
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must-race win for governor of virginia and also tomorrow, donna brazile's book comes out's in it brazile claims before she took over the dnc the primary process was essentially rigged in favor of hillary clinton over bernie sanders. brazile is defending her claims and responding to accusations that she's just trying to sell books. >> for those who are telling me to shut up, they told hillary a couple months ago, i tell them, go to hell. i'm going to tell my story. >> the high command of brooklyn, the people making the decisions even for the dnc, they didn't come and work with us. they told us to shut up, and basically let them win the election. >> the accusation is putting the spotlight back on the deep divisions between the democratic party's establishment and its progressive wing. at the exact moment that the party needs to come together. here is current dnc chair tom perez on "meet the press" yesterday. >> we have to earn the trust of the voters, and the during the process of the democratic primary, we fell short in that,
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undeniably. >> joining me now, former chairman of the dnc and pennsylvania governor reed rendl and an msnbc political analyst. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> funny terry mcauliffe said bad timing to chuck and today he told me nobody cared. that's neither here nor there. tomorrow, big day in virginia. do you think democrats have run a good race down there? >> i think, like all races, they've made mistakes but have done things that were very good. and a perfect candidate for virginia, ralph northam, and i think he'll hold the suburban vote, because those voters are more interested in sending a message to donald trump than they are about what happened in the primary in 2016. >> are you completely confident of that, though? are you confident that you're not going to see something, an upset, an unpredictable upset like many saw in 2016?
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in the national race? >> no. i'm not confident of it, but, because there are many factors at play, but i don't think this dispute, the thing in donna brazile's book, will be a factor in many people's voting or not voting, as the case may be. >> jonathan martin, from the "new york times," had a piece out today where he said, should mr. gillespie win or narrowly fall short he will have handed the 2018 -- the 2018 candidates in competitive races a playbook for trump era campaigns. deploy the president's politics but avoid mr. trump himself. that's what mr. gillespie has done. campaigned on trump's issues but careful not to say his name too much. certainly hasn't campaigned with him. when you look at that strategy, what is your reaction? >> well, it's the best strategy i think they can follow, but i will tell you. i'm disappointed in ed
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gillespie. i know him well. he's a decent man. he hasn't rahn decent campaign. he's appealed to the worst instincts of virginia voters and maybe done it effectively. i can't gauge that, but this isn't the ed gillespie that i knew. >> we don't know what will happen tomorrow, governor, but should the democrats not come out victorious, are you concerned about the future of the party and the messaging of the party? >> well, i've always been concerned about the messaging of party. and concerned about the future of the party, because we haven't done well in our congressional election. lost the 2016 election, should have been a slam dunk. but i think that's more than just what's in donna brazile's book. i think anybody who suggests that the dnc has the power to rig an election. when i was dnc chair, i knew, katy, what we did, didn't influence ten votes. ten votes. and -- i find it hard to believe anybody can cite anything that may have rigged the primary elections in hillary clinton's
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favor. she won by 4 million votes. 56%. that's a landslide in anybody's book and the only thing i've heard about rigging is the timing of the debates and the limiting of the debates. i watched every one of those debates. shows you i have no life, but i watched every one of those debates and i think hillary won four out of five. i was -- yelling at them. schedule for debates. schedule more debates. >> what do you think democrats should do in terms of messaging? you say you're concerned about some of it. what should they do going forward? >> i think we should do two types of messaging. number one, we should go after on issues, what the republicans are doing to the working men and women who are trump democrats. if they look at their policies, the first thing the president did on his first day in office, raise interest rates at fannie mae, crushing a lot of middle class working people who wanted to buy their own home. he's peeled back the overtime rules that president obama put
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in. you can go over chapter and verse and we should be running issue ads. republicans tell you they're for the working person. president trump tells you, but what about this? what about that? what about that? and i get these ads on way before the '18 election. number one. >> that's your advice to tom perez? >> my advice to tom perez, but he can't do tay loan, obviously. moneywise. secondly, i talk about what we want to do. for example, infrastructure. i think the republicans are going to punt on infrastructure. and as you know, katy, for every $1 billion of a new spending on infrastructure, it produces 250,000 new well-paying jobs. i would hold their feet to the fire and if they didn't give us an infrastructure bill with good federal government input, i'd burn them on it, because that's one of the best ways we can have to raise salaries, increase wages, and to do it for americans who -- are looking for work. no question about it. >> and one of the things a lot
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of folks said donald trump should have started with in his administration that would have healed a lot of wounds and he'd have found a way to get both parties to potentially work together. ed rendell, thank you. >> absolutely. up next, a itch ma major mi for "meet the press." 70 years and counting. we'll be right back. more people shop online for the holidays than ever before. (clapping) and the united states postal service delivers more of those purchases to homes than anyone else in the country. ( ♪ ) because we know, even the smallest things are sometimes the biggest. even the smallest things eight hundred dollars whenlmost we switched our auto and home insurance. liberty did what? yeah, they saved us a ton, which gave us a little wiggle room in our budget. wish our insurance did that. then we could get a real
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trying to predict these things. >> i'm never predicting anything again. >> i'm a country boy from mississippi and said this earlier, choice between a duck and something acting like duck, you're going to choose a duck. until the democratic party star starts defining their territory. >> saying they need to poke focus on issues, economying instead of what they hate about the republican party and donald trump. >> exactly. ? however in virginia haven't seen a lot of that. at end ralph northam ran anti-trump ad. but talking about issues. not compelling but opposite side, ed gillespie done something, if he pulls it off, run a trumpian campaign without bringing trump into it. >> could be a road map if
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successful for republicans in 2018, run on trump's issues but never say trump. >> he didn't make one visit into virginia. >> i'm sure by design. >> this is what the republican party is? gillespie's doing is disgusting in terms of race baiting that's going on. >> on the monuments? no question. he's pulling out every card he can to try and win this. and it is strategically makes sense. going to be heartbreaking to a lot of people who actually know him and say this is not the ed gillespie we know. >> if it's not and heartbreaking, is he dormant for years? opportunistic? >> one thing we know about him, he fights to win and is doing what he can to do it. again the tactics, interesting he did towards end.
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i don't think anyone saw that part coming. unfortunately goes to playing that trump card. >> i wouldn't say it's trump card. we've seen this tactic before trump emerged that made possible his emergence. >> but running a split campaign in northern virginia where he's from, talking about business and economy, growing jobs, targeting voters who voted for trump heavily in 2016, he didn't win virginia but a big outcome in southern and western virginia talking about coal and immigration. that's where gillespie is running. >> told me nobody cares about donna brazile, to chuck todd, bad timing for the race. which is it? >> bad timing. i think a lot of folks care. >> if they didn't, wouldn't be talking about it. >> we're talking about it, but voters in virginia care? or voters? >> voters that are split, might
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be stridescribing something happening on the ground, not insider stuff but divide. >> feeling we're not represented, something is going on in the party making it so their chosen candidates win over the ones we want. >> corporate clinton democrats as shady as republicans are. >> insidious insinuation. try saying that? made my life even harder than it normally is. if it's monday -- we'll be right back. stay with us. whoooo.
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in case you missed it, james comey has been unmasked, on twitter that is. in kisscase you missed it, dish hot takes on social media under @formerbu, a nod to fbi agents to often referred to the bureau as the bu. but theel oathian that he wrote about in senior thesis. outed himself when he posted photo of himself in october and had fun when axios reported on release of book tweeting quote, lordly, i hope there are pictures. officially coming clean. user name is now @comey and has
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verified checkmark next to his name. says he's glad to be part of the twitterverse, so are we. chuck will be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily" and "the beat" starts now. hi aury i. >> never know when he might respond to the president, although i imagine he won't. not his style. >> he seems very -- >> controlled? >> philosophical, as you were alluding to. >> also controlled. >> no, you were right the first time. katy tur, thank you as always. we have a big show tonight. bob mueller has evidence to bring more charges in the russian probe. michael flynn and his son. probing in foreign lobbying, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. issues of alleged lies, potential money laundering

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