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itself boxed in. >> and to republican candidates running one year from now on election night, they might look at ed gillespie and wonder is it worth it to adopt pieces of donald trump's legacy? perhaps not, john. >> something happening here, and in this case i think it's pretty clear what's happening here. we're going to see a lot of kplications of it coming forward. >> mike. >> yeah, i think it's the slow reawakening of america and americans and who we are and what this country is all about. >> long road ahead, though. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks so much, mika. thanks, joe. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning, a blue wave. democrats win big across the country sending a clear message just one year after the president's victory. >> virginia has told us to end the divisiveness, that we will not condone hatred and bigotry. >> phone a friend. democrats go to the white house for a call with the president to talk taxes, and no surprise, it did not go well.
>> if this tax bill seems like it was written for donors instead of constituents, it's because it is. >> there you go. we begin today with the democrats celebrating a series of decisive victories, a far cry from their devastating losses one year ago. for president trump and congressional republicans, last night was bad and there are fears that 2018 could be even worse. but you're in luck, i have a great team here to break it down, starting with msnbc national political correspondent, steve kornacki. steve, at this time yesterday, virginia's governor's race was essentially a dead heat. where did we go from there? >> what you saw happen yesterday is northam came in with a slight lead and exploded into the biggest margin for a democrat in a virginia gubernatorial race in 32 years. you've got to go back to 1985 to match the nine points. where did that come from? there's two sources to this and it's an interesting story as you
look forward to 2018. number one, first and foremost, it is the northern virginia suburbs right outside washington, d.c. this is a tiny area geographically. don't be fooled, the blue areas are a quarter of the vote statewide. this was an area that was already against donald trump. hillary clinton did very well here last year. ed gillespie's hope was trump did extra bad for a republican. i just want to do normal bad for a republican and then i can make it all up in trump country down in southwest virginia. well, take a look, a close look at what happened in these suburbs. i'll give you a perfect example. three years ago ed gillespie ran sort of as a normal establishment republican for the u.s. senate. this county right here, he won it when he ran for the senate. then last year donald trump running for president, it moved hard against him and he lost by 17. gillespie said i'm going to be closer to my 2014 self than what trump got last year. what actually happened, look at that, it got worse for the republicans. gillespie got blown out by 20
points. he did even worse than donald trump. that pattern was repeated throughout northern virginia. the two things that we saw in the suburbs of northern virginia, number one, that resistance to donald trump that was there on election day a year ago, still there, maybe even slightly worse. just as important for democrats, the turnout. astronomical for an off-year election. it was through the roof, especially in these suburbs. so the suburbs really awakened. that's a big part of the story. the other part of the story potentially with 2018 implications, we talked about nonwhite voters being important to the democratic coalition. last night 20% of the vote in virginia was black. 20% of the electorate was black. here was the fear. you have to go back pre-obama era, the last major election in virginia pre-obama area that number was 16. there was a fear among democrats that post obama it would slip. it didn't slip. you got 20% last night. that was particularly important when you got down norfolk, that area, virginia beach, actually
northam won virginia beach yesterday. usually a republican win there. northam won that as well. you had high black turnout, through the roof energy for democrats in the suburbs. gillespie did well in southwest virginia. that trumpism strategy worked for him in trump country but the backlash was bigger. >> think about that. virginia beach, that's a military country right there, surprising to see them go blue. but virginia was just one of several big political story lines that developed last night. and democrats came out on top in almost all of them. let's walk you through. in new jersey, my home state, voters rejected chris christie's lieutenant governor, kim guadagno, electing phil murphy. he won easily, 56% to 43. right here in new york city, mayor bill de blasio was easily elected to a second term. he trounce his closest republican competitor by nearly 40 points. two other notable races in virginia, democrat danica rome
won the 13th district becoming the first openly transgender person to be elected to virginia's state legislature, and democrat chris hurst won the 12th district. this is former tv anchor who gapd national attention after his girlfriend, alison parker, was shot and killed on live television two years ago. out in washington state, a special election to fill a state senate seat. democrats now control the governorship, the statehouse and the senate. and in maine, voters easily approved a referendum to expand medicaid. did you hear that? expand medicaid for low income americans. the vote was a defeat for the republican governor who has previously vetoed the measure. i want to bring my panel in. elise jordan is an msnbc political analyst and "time" columnist who previously served as advisor to senator rand paul and michael lupica.
elise, i want to start with you. yesterday i watched you on "deadline white house" talk about what a good guy ed gillespie is. now he's lost. what happens to his reputation going forward? he's tainted with the trump brand at this point. he ran a trump-like campaign. can he go back to, but remember, i was a george bush flavor good guy. >> it was disappointing to watch how ed gillespie tried to close in the final week his campaign. it was disappointing to watch out his tone shifted from kind of staying away from trump to deciding, well, i have to cozy up and i have to dig in on some of these immigration and confederate statue issues and saying that my competitor isn't tough enough on convicting pedophiles. i have to dig in on those issues. and it wasn't the kind of campaign that i saw as ed gillespie's brand and i think it came off as inauthentic and now the question is how does he recover from that. he's shown that he was willing to go there and failed in the
process. >> but what does that teach other republicans? i mean look at this, president trump at the 11th hour going bad on ed gillespie on twitter. i watched a fox news anchor say this is president trump at his worst. there it is. ed gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what i stand for. let's break that up for a moment. who knows what president trump stands for, he changes his tune every moment. think about him yesterday talking about north korea. so what does this mean for other republicans who are watching? >> it's like the old line that you can't be a little bit pregnant. you can't be a little bit trumpy. you can't be a little bit trumpy and that's what gillespie tried to do at the end of this. there became a flop sweat desperation about his campaign. and, yeah, he went there on immigration. and, steph, isn't it amazing that that robert e. lee dead general constituenskpiconstituee to pull ed across the finish line. this was sell-out politics.
ed gillespie sold out whatever he was when he was running for the senate and whatever brand he had across his career. >> sellout politics, welcome to the gop. find me more than a handful of republican leadership -- >> they found the cost of that last night. they found the cost of that in virginia last night. they found the cost of sellout politics. and listen, you can't spike the ball already, that this is some great democratic rising of the other 66% who don't believe this president when he says that water isn't wet, okay? but there is something going on here and those signs may hold across a year, even though a year is a lifetime in politics. >> i don't know if i buy that because when president trump won, we had the same statement, there's something going on here. >> well, i am curious about educated voters and how educated voters who would vote republican were mobilized to turn out in this election with record turnout in virginia on a rainy day. you look at fair tfax county
yesterday and the rain that was pouring down and still people turned out to vote democrat. normally that would favor a republican candidate, and yet people were voting against trump. >> in the last presidential election, we found out that there were more angry white people in this country than we knew about. well, there was an anger yesterday, especially in virginia, that wasn't just those voters. it was women, it was people of color. and again, maybe they got angry at the america they have seen over the last year. >> but stay on this because this is what i read in "the washington post" that stood out. trump's tweet distancing himself from gillespie sugar coats the election in a way that may make trump feel better, which is what he likes for the moment, but probably isn't fooling anyone on the hill. it also does something very dangerous for trump right now, it shows yet again he isn't loyal to his political partners. we know this about -- >> he isn't loyal to anybody. >> we know this, but at the same time, we watch him, you know,
slap, donkey kick, attack mitch mcconnell and paul ryan and the two of them stand next to him for pictures. could this be their wake-up call? >> it's interesting because ed gillespie is a beloved figure among so many republicans and so it really affected a certain class of republican operatives to see donald trump turn against ed gillespie, which is ironic, given that all of the people that donald trump has turned against and he's never loyal in the end, but it did give people pause when they see, oh, well this is how it really ends with donald trump. >> you name for me, we have to move on, who has president trump never turned on? who has he never said anything bad about? vladimir putin -- >> mike flynn. >> ivanka trump, mike flynn and steve bannon. >> oh, and sheriff joe. >> and sheriff joe arpaio. just think about that. i want to bring in nbc's capitol hill correspondent, kasie hunt, also the host of
"kasie d.c. " john harwood said if you are a suburban republican house member, you're terrified tonight. it's the first time of a real wave that trump may damage not just the country but their own prospects. is that what you're hearing on the hill? when john tweeted that out, i thought about all the suburban republicans in places like new york and new jersey who are going to get beaten down by these tax cuts. >> steph, that absolutely lines up with my reporting. i've been getting text messages from moderate republicans overnight essentially saying that you can look past virginia and see the real impact of this. you can dive into the deeper numbers in new jersey. there has been actually -- chris christie, republican governor of new jersey, there has been some history of local republican governance there, in the philadelphia suburbs, elsewhere, all of those local offices are races we would never talk about. county clerk, those kinds of things are swinging to democrats
when they have been in republican hands in some cases for decades. and that really is kind of the -- what is underscoring this story as we come onto the other side of the virginia election. the statehouse in virginia, democrats wiping out the republican majority there, that is what has people talking because that is the thing that is going to potentially impact these republican members of congress as they try to hold on to their majority. it is absolutely a steep climb for democrats to retake the house, but this is a significant sign that there is a wave that includes the potential for that to happen. and if you are a moderate suburban republican, you are potentially feeling like that brand of politics might go extinct in your party. there's pressure on the right from steve bannon to force those people out of the party. mitch mcconnell is arguing you're just going to hand the seat over to democrats and
decimate the republican majority. it could put senate seats like arizona and nevada in play for democrats. chuck schumer is feeling stronger today obviously than he was yesterday about the chances that his incumbents have on the senate side. and remember mitch mcconnell's majority is also razor thin. so i just talked to scott taylor, congressman, republican from virginia. he said, look, this is absolutely a referendum on donald trump. this absolutely means we need to stop the divisive rhetoric that the president has been out front in saying. an i think the question is going to be at what point do republicans start to break away farther and more aggressively from the president. this is the first real set of data points that as you say shows that their political existence is in jeopardy. >> i need my panel to weigh back in because if democrats meet divisive with divisive, they have an opportunity here to scoop up the middle. but if they continue to go to the left, if they continue to go the way of bernie sanders, those republicans who are kind of willing to go democrat because
they find the steve bannon side of the house morally reprehensible, they could end up staying there. i want to share what tom perez said on "morning joe" this morning. >> donald trump was undeniably on the ballot in a number of races because he's trying to divide america. people are so sick of these twitter tirades. they want leaders they can be proud of. and that's why people like phil murphy and ralph northam were able to win because they're sane. >> tom perez has to deliver more than that. >> listen, i'm -- if you're a democrat, you ought to be scared to death that bernie sanders is going to run for president again because you're talking about division. he will divide his party again and he will do exactly what you're talking about and move it to the left. what we saw just in virginia and, again, it's a small sampling last night. all of that anger that got donald trump elected one year ago, people got angry about that and rose up in virginia last night. >> but i think that you can overstate ralph northam as being
illustrative of what democratic people in the country want. he had a horrible closing -- he had a horrible closing week. it really -- the anti-trump factor helped him and helped put him over the finish line so much. just over the past week i went and did a lot of focus groups in wisconsin and nevada and it was remarkable how so many democrats would say we want a more moderate figure. we have to have a moderate figure to win. but then bernie sanders, and bernie sanders policies, that's what they want. >> right. i don't think anybody looked at northam and said, oh, my god, here's the new face of camelot in democratic politics. >> all right. we've got to head overseas. president trump is in china where he is looking for more help in dealing with north korea, a country he described overnight as, quote, a hell that no person deserves. i want to bring in nbc's peter alexander, who is in beijing. peter, president trump made those remarks while he was in south korea. how did that fly?
>> reporter: yeah, city stephan that's right. many of the people there have been skeptical of president trump's combative tone toward their nar beighbors to the nort but the instant reaction is that they widely embraced the president's strong talk. they like the show of the strength of the alliance between the u.s. leader and the south korean leader. the two men were supposed to go to the dmz earlier today. but the president did again return to that fiery rhetoric, specifically going after kim jong-un, calling out china and russia by name to join forces to isolate the brutal north korean regime. the president specifically said to the north korean leaders, do not underestimate us, do not try us. and he had a stern warning for kim jong-un. take a listen to what he said. >> north korea is a country ruled as a cult. at the center of this military cult is a deranged belief in the
leader's destiny to rule as parent/protector over a conquered korean peninsula and an enslaved korean people. >> reporter: the president described life in north korea as, in his words, a dark fantasy. it's notable today also that the president was hoping to follow the lead of other presidents, i think five in the past, who have gone to the fortified demilitarized zone by making a surprise stop there earlier today. five minutes out from landing, they were foiled by bad weather, specifically fog and forced to return to seoul. this is note annuable because l week the white house said they would not be making that trip, that dmz stops were in effect a cliche at this point. but we learned today this had been a plan in the works for weeks. sarah huckabee sanders as part of this surprise to try to preserve it gathering reporters
earlier this morning, holding up a piece of paper with the letters dmz scrawled on it to reveal their destination. >> stunning. just a few days ago she said we're not going, it's a cliche, and then they decided to go there. peter, i owe the audience an apology. i said that the president is not consistent. it's unclear what he stands for, but i was wrong. last night he reminded us exactly what he stands for. and while speaking in south korea, he brought up his own golf course, his favorite thing to do. let's share it. >> the women's u.s. open was held this year at trump national golf club in bedminster, new jersey, and it just happened to be won by a great korean golfer, sung hyun park. >> peter, walk me through this. what the context?
>> reporter: it was a very trump-like moment certainly. this was notable because remember the president was for the first time an american president has addressed south korea's national assembly in something like 25 years, was trying to shower praise onto south korean hosts for all their achievements in the past six decades since the korean war in technology, in medicine, in music, and as it would turn out in golf, which was an opportunity for him to bring up what he likes to do, his own personal brand, one of his properties, the trump golf course where at the u.s. women's open eight of the top ten finishers, including the champion, were south korean. that was a moment that you saw that the south koreanl lawmaker. >> president trump showcasing his musical prowess, tooting his own horn yet again. peter, thank you. we're going to take a break. coming up, a group of senate
democrats heading to the white house where the president calls into the tax reform plan. you can imagine how that went. but wait until you hear what happened when the president hung up. but next, the ceos behind two of the largest cyber security breaches in the country's history, equifax and yahoo! will be grilled on the hill in the next hour. the questions those companies' top brass will face when we come back. i want to hear about their golden parachutes. those two ceos got to walk out the door with bags of money. how about that, america? alright, off you go. casual fridays at buckingham palace? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money nathan saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
welcome back, i'm stephanie ruhle. lawmakers on the hill are demanding answers on two of the biggest cyber security breaches in u.s. history. any minute now current and former executives of equifax and yahoo! will take the hot seat to testify before the senate commerce committee. marissa mayer had declined multiple offers to testify before being subpoenas to appear today. the 2013 breach affected, are you ready for this number, 3 b, that's a b, billion yahoo! users. nbc's jo ling kent is there on capitol hill. i know whether it's marissa mayer or equifax, what i want to really ask those two if i was one of those senators would be about their extraordinary golden parachute packages. the amount of money those two get to walk out the door with after disastrous breaches is stunning. but unfortunately, stunning but
legal. what are we actually getting here today? >> reporter: steph, i definitely am hearing that that will be the case, that is certainly on the agenda is exactly how much these leaders walked away with as ceos. you can see behind me right now the interest in this particular hearing is pretty high. and what's going to be on the agenda is really consumer protection here as you mentioned with the yahoo! breach. we're talking about 3 billion customers, disclosed just earlier this year. that comes after we originally reported back in december it was just 1 billion yahoo! customers who have been affected by this breach. we're also looking at equifax of course as well, 145 million plus americans were affected by that cyber breach earlier this year and that was in august. so a lot of this challenge for the consumer is very raw right now and a lot of individuals are facing what the consequences are from these companies. so we can expect to hear from the senate commerce committee chairman, john thune, major questions on what exactly has
happened, why they were not disclosed earlier and what happens next and if they can be held to this account. now the issue here, though, is there's already been a tone set here, steph. last week you remember there was the social media hearings and a lot of questions were not answered so a big question is whether equifax and yahoo! will deliver this morning. >> all right, jo ling, thanks so much. we're going to take a break. up next, trump had a contentious call with senate democrats over tax reform but he doesn't need them to get it passed. but sound bites live on. president trump saying he's going to get killed with the tax reform bill. would you like to know what that is? it's a lie. i can't wait for her to have that college experience that i had. the classes, the friends,
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near her home. this new video shows her moments before she was found running across a church parking lot around 4:00 a.m. before flagging down a truck driver who called for help. according to espn three ucla men's basketball players were released on bail early this morning after being arrested in china for allegedly shoplifting on tuesday. and day three of jury deliberations is about to begin in the bribery trial of senator bob menendez. in deliberations on tuesday, a juror reportedly asked the judge who answer this simple question, what is a senator? the new jersey democrat is of course accused of accepting favors for years from a florida eye doctor in exchange for helping with business issues. tributes are pouring in, this story is so sad, for former mlb pitcher roy halladay who was killed when his small plane crashed off the coast of florida. the two-time cy young award winner was just 40 years old, a young dad. and we've got to talk taxes
now. republicans are launching a new strategy to push their tax reform legislation forward. white house officials meeting with a group of democratic senators last night, trying to earn their support for the plan. president trump even called in from south korea, saying he'd, quote, get killed financially by the gop bill. i want to go live to capitol hill where msnbc's garrett haake is. garrett, take us inside the meeting. >> reporter: well, stephanie, we know from democratic senators who were in the meeting that this was essentially a one-way negotiation, almost a lecture from the president over the phone urging these democratic senators, mostly from states that the president won last year, to get onboard and support this bill. the president told them that this bill would be personally bad for him. he said that he was keeping the estate tax, aka the death tax in there as sort of a -- he said that's one thing rich people would like in this bill. a lot of it is not true. a lot of the benefits do go to
wealthier folks and we don't know exactly what it would do for the president since we have never seen his tax returns. the democrats in the room pushed back. they said they should have been involved in this conversation a lot earlier. they didn't want to be told at the end game to get on board, they wanted to be part of this process. and this sort of -- again, this one-way negotiation went with the president to the senators and then the senators talking to white house staffers. stephanie, one of the more interesting things that i think that came out of this, some of the white house folks in the room told the senators that the senate version of this tax bill will look different from the house bill, possibly significantly different and that could muddy up the timeline that republicans are going for. remember, republicans are hoping to pass this through the house by thanksgiving, get it through the senate by early december and potentially have a bill on the president's desk by the end of the year. we will see this republican senate bill likely on thursday. if it's way different from the house bill, that could really put this timeline in jeopardy. just like we saw with the health care bill.
stephanie. >> i want to bring in heidi przybyla, white house reporter for "usa today" as well as msnbc political analyst elise jordan and michael lupica. heidi, i was just told that my hair looks good so i want to try really not not to set it on fire. i'm inclined to when i hear the president say he is going to get killed with the gop bill. who on earth is he kidding with a statement like that? >> stephanie, when you first rolled out the bill or the concept of the bill, he said the same thing. >> but it's a lie and it's a proven lie. >> right. and we have that across the front of our front page the very next day. just -- you know, we don't have his taxes, but just a back of the envelope very basic analysis of this bill shows that it's very not true. first of all, there is the pass-through rate. what we know about trump's businesses is that the majority of them are branding and real estate deals which would benefit from that pass-through rate. then there is the elimination of
the amt. for the one year that we have of his taxes of 2005, we showed that he won millions in that through the amt. and then the big windfall which is the repeal of the estate tax. right now his heirs stand to gain based on forbes analysis of what we think his net worth is about amazingly $2.1 billion. of course if it's eliminated, they would stand to gain by another $1.4 billion. so if you call that getting killed, i guess the president is getting killed. >> see, i didn't need to set my hair on fire, you just did that in the most eloquent way and didn't even point out carried interest. the president said all along on the campaign trail he was going to wipe out carried interest. of course now he's splitting hairs. they're going to keep it in place for private equity, for real estate. private equity like the president's closest advisor, steve schwartzman or real estate, which is what president trump does. he's only going to get rid of it
for the hedge funds. so he's going to save it for himself. so again, and we haven't seen his taxes. when he might get hit for state and local living in new york, he might actually do his taxes in florida. you know, where the white house south is. isn't that what he calls mar-a-lago. michael, what's your reaction? >> you know, it's funny, when he said his accountant told him that he was going to get killed if this thing goes, all i was thinking of is his personal physician. remember dr. willie nelson -- >> that's insulting to willie. don't insult willie like that. >> don't say that about willie nelson. >> steph, it's demonstrably untrue that he will get hurt by this. the one thing they're trying to sell this thing is it's going to hurt rich people. no, it's not. and when you parse this thing, you actually have to go pretty deep into it to find out who exactly it's going to help. >> but how about the good that it does do and how difficult this is. the difficult position this puts the president's, i'll call them, sellers in. if you're gary cohn, if you're
steve mnuchin out there trying to sell this bill and you've got trump saying i'm going to get killed, you're turning them into liars. gary cohn when he was asked about the papers, about the tax shelters where his name came up, he said i'm not ashamed of it. this is the way the world works. when we look at the way wilbur ross or gary cohn did their business, we might not like it but at the end of the day, it's going to be legal. president trump is making it so difficult for these guys. >> he is, but is that anything unusual? the president always when the policy details are unveiled, be it health care, be it tax reform, the president always complicates the messaging battle for his people entrusted with selling it. what i think is where we should watch, the senators who are concerned that this isn't going to help the middle class. you've got mike lee, you've got ted cruz, you've got rand paul. they're all saying i'm not sure that this is going to help the middle class, so i'm not going to be in yet. i think that's worth watching.
>> steph, you led into this today by saying a juror in the menendez trial said what's a senator. you know what? these days how many of us aren't asking ourselves the same question. we saw what they did with repeal and replace, which looked like it was written on the back of a cocktail napkin. this rush here as though they all have a car waiting outside to ram this thing through defies imagination. >> heidi, we also need to point out that while corporate tax reform might help big corporations, going after state and local might hurt small businesses, which this has been sold as this is going to help small business owners. but i want to ask you what does last night's win for democrats across many states, what does that do to the tax bill? if i'm a republican, am i going to look more closely at this bill and realize, listen, all politics are local. i need to make sure i represent my constituents, or are republicans going to say, geez louise, we've got to get a win in here over dead meat. >> i think whether you're a republican or a democrat, the
message is that you don't necessarily need to work with this president, especially at a time when this tax bill is getting tainted as being for the rich. now, when you are trying to sell it as a middle class tax plan but the real goal and the real benefit which we all know is that this is a corporate tax, that looks like false advertising already to a lot of americans. so when you have these republicans, especially from the blue states that they're trying to bludgeon into supporting this right now, i think they take a look at this and, first of all, how many of them are going to retire and just not to make this fight, period, but secondly, do they really need to kind of put their political necks on the line for this president an for this bill. >> heidi przybyla, sell it as corporate tax reform, sell it as trickle-down economics. don't try to sell it, mr. president, by telling us that you're going to get killed because we know that's a lie. we're going to leave it there and go live to sutherland springs, texas, next where vice president mike pence will visit later today as we get new
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springs, texas, and mariana atencio. i didn't think things could get more disturbing but alas they are. what can you tell us? >> reporter: according to documents first obtained by our local station, kprc, the gunman escaped that mental health facility in 2012 during his time at the air force, as you mentioned. he was apprehended, taken into custody at a bus terminal in el paso, texas, about 12 miles from peak behavioral health services. this after he had already threatened his superiors there. now, when the military examined the computers at the center that were meant to be used for menial things like paying bills, according to an employee there, it turns out devin kelley had been ordering tactical gear and weapons to be sent to a p.o. box in san antonio. this coming after that horrific assault on his wife and baby stepson that went as far as
fracturing the baby's skull. so when you put all that new evidence into perspective, stephanie, even comparing it to a massacre like las vegas, which you reported on the ground for, in las vegas there was no clear signs that the mass shooter really exhibited before the mass shooting. but here there were so many signs, so many flags that could have been raised. and when you talk to people on the ground here, that is what is infuriating and really hurting this community 72 hours almost after this attack. stephanie. >> oh, thank you so much for continuing to cover it. all right, we're going to take a break. we talked earlier about democrats winning big in virginia last night. up next we talk money, power, politics with mega donor tom steyer, who played a big role in last night's outcome. switch to walgreens. we make it easy to seize the day, so you can get more out of life and medicare part d.
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>> well, stephanie, i think last night what we saw was much higher turnout in the governor's race in virginia than we've ever seen before. and i think there's no question particularly for young people, organizing young people on college campuses phoning, texting, there's no question that young people gave explicit rejection of this president and the racism associated with this race, saying we've had enough of it, we want a different course, we have -- this is a reaft reaffirmation of our values as americans. i thought it was a fantastic vote. >> have democrats figured out what their message and path is? because if democrats go too far left, they're going to lose the middle. and this is an opportunity for them to really take a lot of people in the middle who are disgusting by the racism and divisiveness. >> well, i think when we think
about what a more prosperous america looks like, we have to start to invest in american people. we have to spend on health care and make the american people productive, healthy and successful. that is going to make our country successful. and what is that governor northam was saying. >> i'm definitely hung up on it, $10 million you spent on the impeach trump ad. why is that a good investment for you? why not spend that $10 million with your ground game, with getting out there, with educating people on financial literacy, helping them figure out their taxes, helping them understand the way that you see as the path to a prosperous america? to spend $10 million on that ad, i don't understand why it's a good idea. >> first of all, we are doing all the ground game, stephanie.
we are in other states on the ground right now organizing people, going door to door, phone banking and doing all the other things that you're suggesting we do. but the facts of the matter is, this president is a clear danger to the american people's health and safety. and the idea to said idly by while he puts us in danger and do nothing doesn't make sense to me. what we are saying to the american people, by the way, they have responded much more strongly than we have ever expected. the people of virginia said last night, yes, this president is somebody who does not reflect our values and, in fact, is putting us in danger on a daily basis. >> tom, one of the reasons you can do that is because you are really rich. and yesterday steve cloobeck said democrats have the wrong message out there, the anti-billionaire message, because he does live the american dream, you live the american dream, are democrats making a message that's too extreme, too anti-wealthy? you love the life that you live.
>> stephanie, what i really think the message that democrats have to have the message that i believe in is how to produce a better america for everyone. how are we actually going to have a vibrant economy across the country in the 21st century. that's something that is absolutely achievable for us, but it is not by doing what mr. trump is saying, which is to go back to the 1950s and try to recreate the past. what we need to do is accept that we're in the 21st century, compete and win here as americans together. and that is within our grasp and what democrats should be standing for. >> i have to ask you about climate change. yesterday, syria, syria just signed the paris climate agreement leaving the united states as the only country in the world not to be a part of it. and we can debate whether or not the actual agreement is one that can be implemented, if it does much, but it represents something. what does it say to the world
that we're now the only country out of the game? >> i don't think there's any question what it says about the trump administration. i don't think it says it about the united states of america and the people here and the business leaders, but it says the trump administration is denying science and truth for their own political purposes. that is abhorrent. when i say this president is putting our safety in jeopardy on a daily basis, that includes climate change. we are going to spend $300 billion plus this year on climate-related disasters. and he's still denying the science. to me, that is sad. it's absolutely untrue. it's despicable. >> tom stire, pretty sure donald trump copyrighted the word sad. you owe him $2. thank you for joining me this morning. coming up, one of the other big winners last night was chris
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that wraps us up for our hour. you can see me again at 11:00. now to my friend kristen welker. good morning. i'm in for hallie jackson who is live in beijing. one year, seeing blue. a resounding defeat for his agenda and party. voters from coast to coast going big for democrats. the chairman of the dnc is onset with us live. virginians have answered and spoken. >> this is exactly who we are, new jersey. >> virginia has told us to end the divisiveness. >> the days of division are over. >> and to end the politics that have torn this country apart. >> you can't take on new york values and win, mr. president. >> donald trump, you don't stand for our values! >> if you turn against the values of your hometown, your hometown will fight back.
>> a lot of energy there. also breaking overnight, president trump in whial. a stern new warning to beijing telling them not to underestimate the u.s. how kim george u.jong-un is res. and the president's team is trying to get the agenda passed. we'll talk about that. but the big headline is coming from virginia. democrats are sweeping other statewide offices in the commonwealth and virtually a race to 32 gop majority in the house of delegates. the president not happy and distancing himself tweeting overnight that gillespie did not embrace him or what he stands for. new jersey also moving firmly into democrati