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>> a lot of energy there. also breaking overnight, president trump in whial. a stern new warning to beijing telling them not to underestimate the u.s. how kim george u.jong-un is res. and the president's team is trying to get the agenda passed. we'll talk about that. but the big headline is coming from virginia. democrats are sweeping other statewide offices in the commonwealth and virtually a race to 32 gop majority in the house of delegates. the president not happy and distancing himself tweeting overnight that gillespie did not embrace him or what he stands for. new jersey also moving firmly into democratic control.
the party taking over after eight years of a now widely unpopular republican governor, chris christie. and my colleague, nbc's kasie hunt is live on capitol hill up late overnight tracking all of these developments. you've been talking to all your sources, kasie, so what are democrats saying? what are republicans saying? how concerned are they about losing control of the house and senate in 2018? >> reporter: well, kristen, i think the republicans who are at the most nervous are people who represent suburbs. these are moderate republicans typically who saw, i think, most strongly repudiated in virginia last night, howdoloudoun county great one. ed gillespie won that when he ran for senate in 2015. he lost to rod northam. that had them texting about races in other places, the clerk
of the court, things like that. overwhelmingly democratic in places like suburban philadelphia, where they haven't been for many, many years. so a lot of nervousness and quite frankly a lot of blame going president trump's way. i spoke to scott taylor, a congressman from the virginia beach area who is a republican, former navy s.e.a.l., here's what he said about the results last night. >> i think it was a referendum on the division and divisive rhetoric that is in the country right now. it is important for republicans to self-reflect, start from the top all the way down. i do think it was a referendum on the national policies. >> reporter: was it a referendum on donald trump? >> i do believe so. >> reporter: a referendum on president trump's divisive rhetoric. taylor also said he believes in addition, not subtraction, and that is what republicans need to be focused on. republicans in a very tight, tough position here, especially in primaries. you have steve bannon kind of
putting pressure on them from the right. and in that case, they can't live without donald trump, but then once they get to the general election, many of theme feel they are not going to be able to live with him at gillespie to experience that as well. for democrats, you're feeling across the board confidence. i will say that, there is a sense, i think, that the midterms will be distinctive different from whatever may happen in 2020, in the midterms there. there tends to be, you can have an easier time running against somebody, whereas obviously in a presidential race, it is going to come down to who they stand up against, president trump, as the candidate, if he runs for re-election. but for the midterm election, there is reason for optimism. and if this is the beginning of something of a tidal wave for them going into the midterms, kristen. >> that's the critical question, quickly before i let you go, you and i have been tracking closely the corker/flake phenomenon.
do you think we'll see more lawmakers announce they are resigning and not running again? >> reporter: i do think we're going to see an increase in the number of retirements in the house of representatives. there's a couple factors driving that. the committee chairman are term limited that may or may not have anything to do with donald trump. they just don't want to continue without the powerful role, but there are many republicans who are throwing up their hands. congressman lou biando yesterday saying there's no room for republicans who want to make good laws. instead, it is just people who are i a tempting to come here and do nothing. people on the left and right who want to stop the process. so they were going to see a little bit more of that. and that, again, could make it harder for republicans to keep a hold of the house of representatives. >> all right. late night for kasie hunt. thank you for tracking all of the facst-moving developments from capitol hill.
thank you. here is tom perez, chairman of the democratic national committee. >> that's okay. i can handle that. >> you can handle it. >> you're running on adrenaline. great to have you here. kasie left off here, the point of overstating your victory. two of the biggest victories in virginia, a state that hillary clinton won, and in new jersey, the gubernatorial races there, essentially that was a referendum on chris christie in new jersey. do you run the risk of overstating the victories that you won last night? >> well, i'll just take you back to the "morning joe" and sod the day before the election. there wasn't one person on "morning joe's" panel, no disrespect to joe, who predicted that ralph northam was going to win the following day. virginia is a purple state. you look at the close shade mark warner had in 2014. and you look at what we did, again, not only winning the statewide elections, but in the house of delegates, the last
time democrats won this many seats was the late 19th century. that's the extent of the wave. here's the formula. unity. throughout. organizing, competing in these down ballot races and then leading with our values, that's how we won. >> how do you make sure you don't lose this momentum? >> we replicate what we have done, not only in new jersey and virginia, but what we have done in washington state where we won a special election in the state senate district that now flipped the state senate last night in washington state. you look at the mayor races up and down where we won. the formula is the same, good candidates talking about the issues people care about and organizing, organizing, organizing. >> let me show you one of your challenges, according to the latest polling, this was a trump county. you are under water at the democratic party, 13% compared to 9% for the gop and only 27% of those who we surveyed had a positive view of the democratic party.
so do you have a perception problem? >> we have to work to earn people's trust. that's exactly what we did in virginia. the virginia ground operation of the coordinated campaign and the coordinated campaign is all the partners working together and there were 33 partners including the dnc that invested a million and a half dollars. that was the most extensive effort in the history of virginia politics. and it paid off. when we talk to people and when we're listening and when we're responding to the issues, that's how we earn their trust. >> former dnc chair donna brazile says the dnc was essentially broke. how are you going to rebuild in a way that you'll be able to take back the party, the house, the senate in 2018? >> well, the dnc didn't put the best foot forward in the 2016 cycle. and a lot of the fruinfrastruct,
it was not good and i knew that going in. we are rebuilding, modernizing, reorganizing, we were able to win seats in oklahoma earlier this year. beat red districts. we have to take the model and scale it everywhere. >> and yet the democrats right now are seen as the anti-trump party. how do you get a message of your own? voters want a message to run on instead of against? >> yes, it was undeniably in part a referendum on donald trump and the divisive world. but you also saw democrats leading with their values. ralph northam is a healer. what they were saying is health care is a right for all and not a privilege for a few. if you vote for me, i'm going to fight to make sure you keep your health care. same thing on the economy. terry mccauliff, people want a
good job. >> voters look at the gridlock on health care or taxes and feel as though washington is broken. why would it be anybody different under democrat control? >> well, you look at what people like patty murray are trying to do. patty murray, the senator from washington state, and the affordable care act. she's reached across the aisle with lamar alexander to stabilize the marketplaces. because we should be mending not ending the affordable care act. that's what democrats want to do. but unfortunately on tax, i'm not calling it tax reform, because it is a tax giveaway to wealthy people, but they do everything in silence. >> do democrats try to work with republicans on tax reform? >> we have -- we have proposals, both in health care and taxes that would help the people who need it most. one of the things we don't need to do is give more tax breaks to the 1% who don't need it. let's help working families who are struggling to make ends meet. let's help middle-class families
get the tax cut they deserve. >> tom perez, after a long night, we appreciate it. >> no problem. pleasure to be with you. >> you, too. heading oversea, president trump in the middle of the most critical part of his asia trip. in china for a round of meetings with leaders there, north korea topping the agenda, but also talking trade and jobs. i want to bring in ambassador gary loch who was the ambassador to china under president obama. thank you for being here. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, kristen. >> before president trump land in beijing, he hit china on not doing enough against north korea. how will they respond to the criticism? >> china has made proposals to get both sides back to the bargaining table to resolve this diplomatically. we don't want a military solution. that would be devastating for millions and millions of people on both sides of the korean border and the de-militarized
zone. unfortunately, the united states has taken the position until north korea first dismantles the nuclear program, stops its development of ballistic missile system, only then will the united states sit down to talk to them. that strategy has not worked for the united states for the last 12 to 16 years. and they see what happened to omar gadhafi. we have to figure out how to get both china, russia, south korea, japan, the united states and north korea to the table. and that is why this visit by the president is so important. >> ambassador loch, let's talk about the specifics of this. some critics believe the president is going into the talks with china with a weak hand. what can he secure, can he get china, essentially, to ramp up the sanctions against north korea or ramp up the pressure in some other way? >> well, china has agreed to and voted with the united states on all the most recent u.n.
sanctions, they are implementing that, but the reality is a cutting down more of food and supplies into north korea will only hurt the north korean people while the regime stays in power. so we really need to figure out a way to try to lower the bluster on both sides, but really get both sides to the negotiating table. china is ratcheting up the pressure. china is not at all happy with the north korean regime. they are very worried about the tension on the korean peninsula. they are very worried about south korea developing its increasing military arsenal. they certainly don't want japan to develop nuclear arms as a defense against north korea. so china has every and wants very much to solve this issue and reduce the tensions on the peninsula. but to expect china to solve it all by itself is unrealistic. >> let me get your take on that,
ambassador. the president has said he's trying to make a determination about whether he will designate north korea as a state sponsor of terrorism. should he? how would that change the equation? >> i don't think that is going to change the equation at all. north korea cares very little about what the united states thinks of it. at the time president trump declared at one point north korea has an axis of evil and sponsoring terrorism. that has not changed the calculus of north korea. they developed a nuclear weapon. they saw what happened to moammar gadhafi. he abandoned the program and then the united states turned around and banned it. so they feel as long as they have the nuclear weapon, that will stop the united states from invading. they see all the military
exercises, the trump movements and exercises, as a practice, a rehearsal to invade north korea. >> thank you for the insights and for joining us, appreciate it. >> thank you. now to white house chief correspondent, my colleague, hallie jackson, traveling with the president. she's in another country from where she was yesterday. hallie, i'm sure you haven't slept because you have a lot of new information. talk to me about what you are expecting from this all-important trip to china. >> reporter: we've already seen some of it, kristen n the overnight hours. for you, daytime hours here in beijing, you saw the president receive this very warm, very lavish welcome from president xi. this one-on-one tour with each of their spouses of the forbidden city. pulling out all the stops. kind of rare, you don't see xi personally escort heads of state through what china is uh billing
as a state visit plus. i'm listening to your conversation and you were talking to the ambassador how china will not be able to solve the problem of north korea alone, but the united states is hoping that china will at least be a player in this. so how does the president put pressure on beijing? a little bit of carrot and a little stick. part of it is the personal relationship. it seems the president is betting that his budding relationship with president xi will again theget them over the goal line to export to north korea. on the other hand, it is part stick. you'll hear the president scold china for what he railed against every stop here in asia, which is trade imbalance as he sees it. tough talk, married with the sort of art of the deal diplomacy. what you heard from the president before he got here in seoul was this very stern message. he called on china and russia to do more, for example, through the u.n. security council, through other means, but he also
delivered a very direct message to kim jong-un in this speech. listen. >> today i hope i speak, not only for our countries, but for all civilized nations. when i say to the north, do not underestimate us. and do not try us. >> reporter: that is president trump in seoul before arriving in beijing. listen, when we look ahead, he's got china, he's sleeping now at this moment, he's got a big day tomorrow, the ceo delegation coming in. i expect you'll see some business announcement on that front. but after that, he heads to vietnam and the philippines for the economic and regional summits. there there's another critical important meeting with president putin. that meeting is on the sidelines of the apec summit. china is getting involve in the fight with north korea, that's what the president wants russia to do, too. a lot of eyeballs on that coming up later in the week. >> that will be a critical
moment, for sure. hallie jackson, hope you can get a little rest in between all of your hard work. thank you so much, really appreciate it. and president trump is working overtime to push the republican tax reform plan through congress by reaching out to a number of democrats from overseas. after the break, how the president is selling the bill. and i'll talk to the man in charge of pushing the president's agenda through congress about where things stand. stay with us. the trash? (sigh) ( ♪ ) dad: molly! trash! ( ♪ ) whoo! ( ♪ ) mom: hey, molly? it's time to go!
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yesterday trump called into a meeting of 12 senate democrats assuring them that he wouldn't benefit from the republican tax bill in an effort to gain their support. and right now the house tax writing committee is debating and changing that bill. a new government report showing that most of the tax benefits will go to corporations and the wealthy. and in the middle of all of that, the senate is expected to release their own tax bill tomorrow. very complicated stuff. garrett haake is live on capitol hill to break this down for us. what are the changes they are considering now on the house side? >>reporter: well, kristen, the whole bill is a moving target now. and the problem republicans have to get is to try to get this bill, under a $1.5 trillion price tag. what they seem to be selling is, rather than changing too much of the substance of the bill, they are playing around with the timing of it to make that map work. so you're seeing debates over
phasing in certain provisions and putting sunsets or phase-out dates on other provisions. one of the more popular tax credits they are putting in the bill, a family tax credit, they are putting the idea of putting a sunset on it and daring future congressing not to extend what they think is a popular provision. and this again gets more complicated on thursday when the senate will introduce their version of the tax bill and trying to get everybody on the same page with that 1.5 trillion price tag, which has to be the rule on the senate side but doesn't necessarily have to in the house. so begin, because republicans are using that reconciliation technique to try to pass this with just 50 votes. the other hurdle they are facing in the house is trying to get some of the lawmakers from high tax states to stay on board. we have already seen six lawmakers from new york, new jersey, one from california, come out and say, they can't support this bill because it gets away with the deductions for state and local taxes. which are a big deal in places like new york and new jersey,
but if that number stays at six, republican leadership can essentially say to roll these guys because they can afford to lose 22 votes for this to pass. they don't want to get up in the double digits or want this to be that close, but if it is only six republican who is say they can't vote for this, republican leadership may be comfortable losing those six. it is about the sliding scale to keep as many people on board as possible, especially leading up to thursday when all this gets a lot more complicated and we start to talk about two different tax reform bills. kristen? >> it sure will. all right, garrett haake, thank you so much for breaking all that down for us. really appreciate it. and joining me now is mark short, white house director of legislative affairs who was in that meeting with democratic senators yesterday. mark, great to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> kristen, thank you for having me on. zbli >> i want to drill in on taxes, but before that, i want to get to the two big democratic races, the virginia governor's race, in particular, i want to read you what the president tweeted about ed gillespie's loss.
he said,ed gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what i stand for. now, the reality is, as you and i know, gillespie ran hard on crime and gang violence, which are things president trump holds dear, so how can the president say gillespie didn't embrace him or what he stands for? >> well, kristen, i think first and foremost, ed ran a hard campaign and the president acknowledged that, but i do think there was a reluctance to see the president campaign in the state for him. the president could have added a lot as far as bringing out his supporters to help support ed. but, at the end of the day, virginia is a state that has continued to move to the left. we have seen that over the last couple decades. the population is swelling in northern virginia, something that is harder and harder for republicans to overcome. i don't think that the election results last night were that unsurprising. ly point to you, though, that republicans did pick up another house seat in utah. so we are 5 for 5 in the congressional seats since donald trump won. which means we now have 240 republicans in the house that can help us with our agenda.
>> and i take your point on all of that, mark, but the president did support gillespie. so how can this be seen as anything other than a rebuke of president trump? >> well, let's keep in mind a couple things, one, virginia has continued to drift to the democratic party. it's done that over the last couple of decades at a quicker pace. the reality basketball ob mcdon 2009. it's not that much of a surprise. as we look at what the president, i think, could have offered as far as ed's campaign, it would have been to help us focus on one of the issues donald trump is at here in washington. >> all right. let's talk about your favorite topic of conversation, taxes. the president has said, this is the greatest tax cut in history. but if you look at what the nonpartisan joint committee on taxation found, look at the hard numbers. they found that families earning between 20,000 to 40,000 and between 200,000 and 500,000 dollars on average are going to wind up paying more in 2023 and
beyond. so how can the president say this is a tax cut for everyone? >> kristen, the tax foundation said this will be a tax cut for every single income bracket. the way we look at this is that the average family in america today making $59,000, the council of economic advisers said they will see a $4,000 wage relief because of the tax increase. additional, those families at $59,000 will see about $1200 in tax relief to their income. so this is a tax package that is focused for middle income, it is also focused on providing corporate relief to bring jobs back to our country. we have seen too many companies flee overseas and want to make sure our tax code is competitive so that we can keep jobs here in america. we've lost too many jobs in the upper midwest. that's the focus of this package. >> a lot of the cuts are focused on the middle class. at the same time, the joint committee on taxation say that is the bulk of the benefits, the bulk of them will go to large corporations and the very
wealthy. do you disagree with that assessment? >> no, we disadpree with thgree assessment. the focus is on middle-income families. you have reported many times on your networks of companies moving their headquarters overseas. the reason is because the tax code is no longer competitive. we no longer want to lose jobs overseas. we want companies coming back to america and helping to spur wage growth and bring jobs back here. so yes, that's certainly a focus of the tax bill. >> mark, one of the biggest sticking points my colleague garrett haake was just talking about are the state and local tax breaks. and you have lost some support of those who say, look, we come from states like new york and new jersey, we can't get on board with this bill. is there any room, is there any way that the president would say, hey, loorks we' rk, look, bring the tax breaks back? >> i think garrett's report was great. but keep in mind the other focus of the plan is to help simplify the tax code. in many cases, people are
getting all sorts of special interest deductions and we're trying to simplify those. >> you've lost some support over these critical tax breaks. is there any wiggle room? is there any way that the white house can compromise on that? >> well, we already have. we already have seen property tax deductions be returned. that's why we're actually winning the majority of republicans in new york, new jersey and california supporting the bill. so yes, you can focus on the six who said they are not supportive, but we also hope to win over democrat support, too. right now, our trajectory is that we are on schedule, the committee market is going excellent. chairman brady is doing a phenomenal job and we hope it gets voted out of committee tomorrow and there's a floor vote in the house before thanksgiving. and soon, your viewers will get significant tax relief, hopefully before christmas. >> and mark, before i let you go, president trump told the senators you were meeting with last night that he's going to get killed by this tax package. so shouldn't he release his taxes so that americans can actually see that with their own eyes? >> i think, kristen, we have covered this many times.
the president is going to release this when the audit is finished, but we had a great meeting with senate democrats yesterday. we were talking with them yesterday to have open conversations and we hope to have more to win their support behind this ibill, too. >> mark short, thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me on. we are learning more about the mass shooting in texas. what we know about the death threats he made to superiors while in the air force and his escape from a mental health hospital. all that right after a quick break. going? hi! okay, so you've got two friends here. yes. this is the j.d. power award for dependability. now i want you to give it to the friend that you think is most dependable. ohhhh. ughh. wow. that's just not fair. does she have to? she doesn't have to! oh, i don't? no, but it's a tough choice, isn't it? yes. well luckily, chevy makes it a little easier. cause it's the only brand to earn j.d. power dependability awards for cars, trucks and suvs - two years in a row. that's amazing.
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with leaders, the fourth stop on his trip to asia. this coming after the trip to asia. xi jinping is there giving him a tour of the forbidden city. and the story of first responder who eers who rushed chaotic scene in texas. >> i'm trying to get the horror out of my mind, but you can't unsee what you already saw. >> we're learning more about the shooter's violent past and how many safeguards were left unchecked. mariana atencio is live with more on that. mariana, what are we learning about the shooter's background today? >> reporter: kristen, we are learning that during his stint at the air force, he escaped a mental health facility on june 7, 2012. devin kelley jumped a fence and was found at a bus depot in el
paso, texas, 12 miles away from his mental health facility. this coming after that horrific assault on his wife and his baby step-son, fracturing the baby's skull. the air force is currently investigating why that domestic violence case was not registered that would have prevented kelley from purchasing firearms. but it goes further than that, he also threatened superiors at the air force. on top of that, deputies here in texas, one year after the escape from the mental health facilities. so in 2013, they have a report of sexual assault against kelley in his hometown here in texas. so yet another red flag that was missed in this case. >> mariana, it is just stunning and devastating to hear all of that background of the shooter. what has the reaction been in the community?
>> reporter: people are at a standstill, kristen. they are infuriated, they are shocked, and on top of that this morning, we also learned that the shooter, the church goers told nbc news this, was actually at the first baptist church at the annual fall festival five days before the bloody rampage. so just imagine that, this man walked among the people, the children he later shot and killed, and facebook posts reveal around 40 to 50 kids in costumes at this fall festival, that usually takes place in this church. so for people here, it's another hard pill to swallow, another chilling detail connecting this man to the massacre here at the church. >> it's chilling, indeed. mariana, before i let you go, mike pence, the vice president, is expected to visit later on today, what are you expecting from his visit? >> reporter: so we know that the vice president will be here at the first baptist church at 3:00
p.m. local. then he'll be briefed by law enforcement before heading to nearby floresville at a high school where he'll be meeting with the families of the 26 victims who died here at the church. and then later on this evening, he'll be delivering remarks at a prayer vigil here in town. kristen? >> mariana atencio who has been on the ground tracking all the difficult developments, thank you for that report. and it's been exactly one year since donald trump was elected president. after the break, jacob zoberoff is talking about the president's job performance so far. use social media to shop local about advanced sales on small business saturday, november 25th. what comes next. if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we make sure you're in the loop at every step
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>> reporter: it is so interesting, kristen, you'll remember in august 2016, president trump just feudeded with the gold star family, and much like today, the then-candidate trump was political toast. we meant to mayport, hope to the third naval base in the country, to test that theory. we were surprised then and decided to go back today, now, to see if things have changed. take a look. wow. that's a king fish? >> king mackerel, yeah. >> reporter: that's a pretty looking fish. in august of last year, this fisherman was on to something in jacksonville, where he counts naval port and the coast guard as next door neighbors. do you feel like this area is as important to the election in november as everybody is saying it's going to be? >> yes. i think there's a silent trump thing going on right now, people that may not want to admit it. >> reporter: chris was right, not only did duvall county go
for trump but so did a lot of florida. you were right, how did you call it? >> my children would come home from school and talk about other parents, you know, saying, hey, you know, that joey's mom and dad are voting for trump. and some of the people you wouldn't expect that. >> reporter: you ultimately fell into that category. >> i did. as a businessman and someone who's regulated heavy, i wanted that off my back. >> reporter: inside, some of his employees were sticking with president trump, too. for you, back then, it was about, i remember you told me, i'm from a military family and you were wanting to make america great again. do you regret it and feel good about it? >> no, i feel good about it. if a democrat comes up with a good idea, then i may vote for him. >> reporter: i noticed you have a coast guard sweatshirt on. >> i do. >> reporter: what is that about? >> my sister has been for about
five or six months, and then my boyfriend's been in for about a year. >> did you vote? >> i did. >> reporter: who did you vote for? >> trump all the way. >> reporter: how do you think things are doing around here since trump became president? >> definitely better. more patriotism and everything like that. >> reporter: across the street, chris showed us his expanding business, a new retail store. do you get the sense that anything over the next three-and-a-half years under president trump will affect this business in one way or the other? >> well, if things continue like they are now as far as economy and regulations, that would affect us greatly. >> reporter: in a positive way. >> in a positive way, yep. >> reporter: as we got ready to leave, one of chris' suppliers pulled up to the dock with a fresh load of shrimp. did you vote for him in november? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> reporter: have things changed for you? >> no, good entertainment on the news. >> reporter: and that stuff doesn't bother you, all the
feuds and stuff? >> no, i don't think it bothers the working man because it is just, it's media. >> reporter: do you get the sense that the president is making sure that these containers that come in from asia go back with american products in them? >> yeah, i don't know if he has that much pull, really. >> reporter: he can only do so much. >> he can only do so much. >> reporter: can only do so much that fisherman said. it is clear, chris ten, for now, the swing voters in that area of that swing state are sticking with the president, but if last night was any indication, it is not those voters but the opponents of president trump to worry about. and the turnout like we saw last night in 2018 and beyond. >> you always have the most fascinating conversations with voters. jacob soboroff, really appreciate it. i want to bring in sarah westwood, correspondent for "the washington examiner." and josh from the associated press, thank you for being here. lots to chew on.
before we get to jacob's package, i want to play some sound we are just getting in from the governor-elect of virginia. take a look. >> and so i look forward to bringing people from both sides of the aisle together to move virginia forward. >> so sarah, bringing people together in a climate in which a lot of folks think that washington is broken. what do you make of the victories we saw last night for democrats? are they being overstated? >> well, i think that you saw ralph northam ran a campaign that there are large parts that ran for donald trump, hillary clinton beat him by six points but northam won by a larger margin than the did. most of virginia did support trump, so it is not a state to support a truly progressive campaign. and the northam campaign style reflected that. >> and josh, i was talking to the dnc chair, tom perez, and said, people see you as the
anti-trump party, he rejected that, but don't democrats need to focus on their message to capitalize on the momentum? >> that's right. aside from railing against trump and saying, we're the ones that can put a stop to this that says, here's what we'll do if we're elected, here's where we see the deficits. after eight years of obama, we think we are the party best positioned to make the changes that trump isn't making. >> i want to play more of tom perez and get your reaction on the other side. >> the dnc undeniably didn't put its best foot forward in the 2016 cycle. and a lot of the infrastructure, the organizing, the technology, all those things that are indepenind indispensable to success, and i knew that going in, we are rebuilding, modernizing, reorganizing. we were able to win seats in oklahoma earlier this year, beet
red districts, and we have to take this model and scale it everywhere. >> sarah, tom perez says they are rebuilding after a lot of bombshells from donna brazile. and we are realizing the democratic party is more fragile than many realized it was. >> it will be more difficult to capitalize on the momentum, but the republican party was in civil war by 2010 and by 2016 it was a historical watermark. because of that, even if you take trump out of the equation, republicans are positioned to have losses in the midterms just because they are so overextended right now. every seat the republicans could win, they already have. so just the sheer math of it is not necessarily going to lend itself to maintaining this level of republican control. >> josh, final point to you, all the focus right now is on tax reform, how much do republicans need a victory? how much do they need to be able to show that they can govern? how much urgency do last night's results add to that? >> republicans know they need to have victories and real achievements.
we saw the white house in the last 24 hours mark the one-year anniversary by pointing to all the achievements so far. it's a list that does not look as robust as the trump administration would have hoped. and as far as actual tangible changes that the republicans have been promising voters, such as repealing the obamacare law, we haven't seen successes in that. that is why this tax reform is so important for them. >> all right. sarah josh, great conversation. thank you so much for being here. really appreciate it. and one programming note, msnbc is taking a closer look at where everything stands the year after the president's election. we're reporting from our own katy tur and anne thompson. visit nbc.com/trump for more information. and coming up, the unbelievable trip to the north lines of the north korean conflict. you don't want to miss this report. stay with us.
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