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it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in washington where today democrats are celebrating a blue tsunami. the party's first significant win since president trump took office. democrats from the commonwealth to the garden state to washington state now have new confidence in their ability to campaign and win. virginia voters came out in droves, sending a clear message to the president on his election anniversary, embracing trumpism will not work. >> today, virginians have answered and spoken. virginia has told us to end the divisiveness that we will not condone hatred and bigotry and to end the politics that have
torn this country apart. >> this was a repudiation of donald trump that will be heard around virginia, around the nation, and, yes, around the world. >> i think that last night was a referendum. i don't think there's any way that you could look at it in a different way. >> donald trump was undeniableably on the ballot in a number of races, because he's trying to divide america. >> i hope that more republicans get the message last night that americans are lookerlooking for work together and solve problems. >> they can't live with president trump, but they obviously can't live without him. >> trump who praised ed gillespie before the election was quick to throw him under the bus, saying gillespie did not embrace me or what i stand for. but ultimately, it was the voters who rejected what trump stands for. ralph northam not only pummeled gillespie electorally, but democrats swept the lieutenant governor and attorney general
races, as well. and they still stand a chance of taking over virginia's statehouse. a transgender woman unseated the most socially conservative lawmaker in virginia, a man who refused to even debate her. and a former tv anchor whose girlfriend was gunned down on live television turned his personal tragedy into a delegate victory. but that is not all. democrats took control of the senate in washington state. they picked up three seats in georgia. they elected the first female african-american mayor in charlotte, north carolina, and in maine, voters became the first state in the nation to use the ballot to expand medicaid. a stunning stamp of approval for obamacare. so, today, what is the takeaway? and where do both parties go from here? we're going to talk to our analysts in just a few minutes. but let's debrief on what just happened with our team of reporters. msnbc national political correspondent, steve kornacki, has been analyzing these results nearly nonstop since last night,
as they were coming in. well into the night. he's here in the newsroom. and garrett haake has been chasing reaction on capitol hill. garrett, you were there yesterday in virginia, as well. you were talking to voters. what is the next day autopsy from both sides of the aisle over on the hill today? >> well, the democratic lawmakers i talked to today are thrilled about this. they feel like they were finally able to sort of wednesday the resistance movement in a way they hadn't been able to do in these special elections. they were able to turn out huge numbers of voters in blue strongholds, but also in the suburbs, where moderate republicans, like a lot of folks think ed gillespie sort of used to be, used to do really well. and secondarily, democrats are pleased because they did it in an off year election. and the republicans i talked to, while they concede the energy is definitely on the democratic side, are essentially trying to build a wall around virginia and new jersey. >> and steve, northam pulled off
the biggest victory for a democrat in a virginia gubernatorial race in 32 years. what ultimately drove his win down there? >> yeah, you look at that map of virginia as it came into focus last night and really saw the same fault lines that you saw in 2016 in that state. remember, this is a state where donald trump lost to hillary clinton by about five or six points. the margin went up. that told you in some of those anti-trump areas, the problem that hadn't been for him on election day 2016, they're still very anti-trump and they were very motivated to vote. that was one of the differences. you saw more energy. those suburbs right outside of washington, d.c. and northern virginia, they were not for trump at all in 2016. gillespie thought, he's not going to win, but he thought he could eat into that margin. did not at all. you saw northam running up 70, 80% in some of the places there. but the flip side of that, too, as you talk about gillespie, he was trying to run on these trumpism issues, on issues of immigration and culture. southwest virginia, you see the red there in the southwest part of the state. he actually did get trump levels
of support there. but, a, it wasn't enough in the face of trump-levels of opposition. and there was an imbalance when it cams to energy, motivation and actually turning out and voting. >> when you look at 2016, the trump levels of support came out in droves. the levels of support for hillary clinton didn't match. when you see turnout in virginia, do you have any prediction going forward? was turnout stronger on the democratic side than it was or turnout stronger in general than it was in the national race in 2016? >> i think what you saw, there's more energy on the democratic side. there's more energy in the resistance if you want to call it that. and for democrats, what that immediately calls into question, where on that map in 2018 can they potentially replicate what they did in virginia, specifically those suburbs outside of washington, d.c. what comes to mind, there's 23 districts, 23 congressional districts next year where republicans are running in
districts that hillary clinton carried. and that could potentially replicate what you saw in virginia yesterday. you saw democrats may be able to pick up the house of delegates in virginia. they would do that almost entirely on the strength of districts that hillary clinton won last year, that now they're up for election this year, and they all vote democratic across the board. so nationally, that's what democrats can take out of this. those 23 become -- they already were, but really become prime targets for democrats. of course, if they want to take back the house, they need more than 23. they need at least 24. so they will ultimately have to look elsewhere. but that gives them a pretty good base coat of paint if they go after that. >> and you've been talking to republicans all morning in the capitol and the early afternoon. here's a little bit of how they've been trying to spin it to you. >> we learned that history tends to repeat itself. if you take a look at midterm elections dating back all the way to the '80s, this is a typical cycle. the question is whether or not we produce the result and reverse that trend next year. >> i guess typical of the people try to read things into these
leches that may or may not be true. i tend to think most of these leches are decided by local circumstances? the candidates and the campaigns they ran. >> i think it was a referendum and the division and divisive rhetoric that's in the country right now, i think it's important for republicans to self-reflect all the way -- start from the top, all the way down. >> garrett, when you're looking at the ambitious agenda that the gop still has in front of them through the end of this year, especially with donald trump really wanting to pass tax reform, do republicans -- did they wake up this morning and decide they need to get something, anything done? we've got to push whatever we have on the table through, or did they look at this and say, you know, we might need to recall prate what we're doing here? we might need to make it a little bit more moderate, a little bit more reaching across the aisle, a little less hard line than we had been trying to do up until this point? >> hey, no recalibration that i
heard, katy. this was full speed ahead from the republicans i talked to. lindsey graham, do you want to weigh in on this. republicans, do you need to change anything about your agenda going forward after last night? >> no, we just actually need to do it. >> all right, there we go. there's lindsey graham. not in quite as chatty mood as he usually is. but this is the point i've been hearing from republicans all day long. the pressure can't be any higher than it already was on tax reform. they feel like they might have gotten punished a little bit for their base voters for not getting health care taken care of. they feel like they need to have something to show for the shared agenda that they do still have with donald trump come 2018, or donald trump's voters won't be happy with them and voters who just want to see a republican congress function won't be happy with them either. the pressure rwas already sort f at 10. if it can get higher, it's now at 11 to try to get tax reform and some of those legislative achievements going forward. >> for those of you who wonder why we make our reporters stand in the hallway, that is exactly
why. you never know when someone like lindsey graham might walk by and you can just ask them what you want to do. thank you both very much. appreciate your time. >> joining us now is republican congressman, dave brat, who represents virginia. congressman, it is always good to see, especially today since you are a virginia congressman. what is your reaction, your colleague, scott taylor, called this a referendum on the president. do you agree with that? >> no, i don't agree with that at all. i think it's a referendum on exactly what the news is. if the news reports on the exit polls, the number one issue is health care. our side failed to nationalize the election. the democrats did it, we failed. 40% increase in premiums going out in the news under obamacare. we failed to tell people that's a democrat bill. second issue on the exit polls is the economy. two-thirds of the folks going out said virginia is doing great economically. it grew last year at 0.6%. we failed to tell people,
virginia is not growing. and that growth supports the government jobs of northern virginia. so they don't know that it's coming to an end, unless you get growth. and finally, we're doing tax cuts and the democrats and the progressive budget increase taxes 10 trillion. we forgot to tell them that. so the democrats did a good job of nationalizing the election -- >> i'm not sure your numbers are right on the growth in virginia. i think it may be on a slight downti down-tick, but it's overall -- >> no, look it up. >> but it's got less unemployment than the vast majority of the states in our union. >> i was on the -- i was on the governor's panel for economics under kaine and under a republican governor. i track that stuff. we always used to outperform the nation. and in the last several years, we're underperforming u.s. gdp growth. >> dave, we're going to check that out. i'm sorry, congressman, we'll check that out. secondly, you talked about, you failed to convey to american voters that obamacare was going to raise their premiums and that
it was terrible. in maine, there was a vote to expand medicare. that is an endorsement -- i'm sorry, medicaid. that is an endorsement of obamacare. the polls, one after another, always said that people wanted obamacare to stay, that your bill in the house and the bill that they tried to throw together in the senate was not popular. so do you not take this as a sign, what happened in maine, what happened in virginia, what happened across the country, that maybe republicans need to recalibrate, reach across the aisle -- >> let me answer the first question. >> -- come up with some bipartisan deals that expand their message to something beyond let's tear down everything that happened in the eight years before. >> right. no, i do not. your first point is absolutely wrong. medicaid expansion is a reaction to exactly the increasing premiums. when premiums are going up 40% and health care consumes one third of your income, that's the new study out this year. obamacare consumes one third of your income.
if that's the case, you're go into freakout mode because the democrats are ruined the health care sector. so is it time to compromise on more obamacare, more slow economic growth, more debt? obama, the debt doubled from $10 trillion to $20 trillion. and the democrats put in a $10 trillion tax increase and $11 trillion in spending increase. so, i mean, if we would have sold that bill of goods, we would have won -- >> dave, i'm sorry, i keep calling youd dave, i apologize. congressman, i see you so much, i feel like i'm on first-name basis with you. >> you are, that's fine. >> you keep selling this and say it all the time when you come to my show and on msnbc -- >> it's true! everything i said is true. >> and the message is out there. voters rejected it. >> i say it. our leadership -- we don't have it out there. at the state level, ed ran on great -- he had 20 policy planks about efficiency in virginia and that's good, you have to have that. he had the most responsible policy prescriptions you could have. but if the nastional piece trums
the state piece, you have to have those three points in place. health care was number one. two is the economy, and then cutting taxes while the democrats are increasing it or pro-business, while the democrats are regulating business into zero growth. we should be winning! and we didn't, because we didn't get it out. >> it wasn't just virginia. it was new jersey, other democrat wins across the country. we saw it with medicaid in maine. congressman, do you think that -- what do you think republicans like ed gillespie should have done last night in order to win? should he have embraced the president more, as the president said? or should he have even distanced himself more, maybe run on a 2013/2012 version of ed gillespie other than the 2017 version we saw, which was talking about monuments, and as some might say, campaigning on race. >> yeah, i think lindsey graham actually had the right answer right off the top of his head.
he said, we need to perform up here, right? our policy trumps state-level policy. state level, you can have a little bit of an impact, right? but the u.s. macro policy dwarfs any state's policies. and so when our senate failed to repeal obamacare, that was it, right? and tax -- we don't have tax through yet, so everybody's waiting to see if they get a tax cut. and we better get that piece right as well. and so ed ran a guide campaign on rational virginia policy, but the national indicators were dwarfing the state level. >> so congressman, when you are up for re-election next year, are you going campaign with president trump? >> i'm going to do exactly what i did for the last three years. i ran on the virginia republican creed, which is free markets, follow the constitution, faith in god. i won by 15%. i think the people in my district like that message. i have 100% voting record on
that message. i kept my promises 100% of the time. i'm 100% on small business. the democrats are at 30 and 17, respectively, in the u.s. senate, that's no pro-business. and so it's i think, i've got a pretty good record to run on. >> so are you going to campaign with president trump? >> i'm fully embracing his agenda which includes tax cuts, obamacare repeal, and a regulatory decrease. yes, i'm onboard that agenda if we get it through. the senate bombed. some people are trying to say it's a white house thing. he hasn't got a chance to beat it or sign anything yet. we need the senate to get some bills through and then i'll be a happy guy. >> are you going to campaign with president trump? >> yeah, sure, if he comes down to the commonwealth and campaigns for us, of course. >> congressman dave brat, thank you very much for joining us. always good to see you, sir. >> you bet. thank you, katy. >> if you guys can hear that at home, apparently there's some kind of construction going on at
30 rock right now. we just heard what sounds like a drill. maybe someone's banging through a wall up above us. who knows? >> it's the infrastructure plan. >> harold ford. we're always doing improvements here. this place gets better and better by the year, i do have to say that. harold ford is a former democratic congressman from tennessee, also a jokester, as you just heard, and a policymaker in residence at the university of michigan's gerald ford school of public policy. and nicole is the author of "branding america." i wondered if somebody was going to drill through the ceiling just then. noelle, the floor is all yours to begin with. because you just heard dave brat trying to spin that. i had to ask him three times whether or not he would campaign with the president. >> and you know what, this is an answer that a lot of candidates -- here it goes again! a lot of the candidates on the gop side are, you know, are being forced to answer. and you put him on the spot. i would have done the same thing to anybody.
i would have been, are you going to run with your president? are you going to run with it? he never said -- >> if it comes down to virginia, yeah, i'll -- >> but only after you ask him a couple of times zplp what do you think that means for the party? >> what it means is the fact that you don't know -- you're seeing a backlash of the kind of the trump effect. so you wonder if your -- especially in his state, what happened in his state. if you go and say, i'm going to embrace it. you may not have a position. you may not have anything to hold on to. and you also got the president tweeting things about ed gillespie and ed gillespie loses. and he didn't say in the republican anymore. he said me. >> and tweet about it last night, responded, this is the president at his worst. me, me, me, me. harold, when you look at virginia, obviously, that's a state that's trended blue.
and you see the results last night. do you think it is a road map for other races in the rest of the country, or is that -- is virginia going to be more of an outlier? are the swing states going to be harder than that? >> we'll see. but two things. this race wasn't nationalized. congressman brat said it wasn't nationalized, it was. he was on the wrong side of that ledger. he made the points that ed gillespie should have run on health care and on all those things. congressman brat and his colleagues, republican colleagues who control the house and the senate, they had themselves as much to blame as anyone else. he's not going to campaign with president trump. i've learned, wherever it takes a man or a woman 200 words to give you a yes or no answer, that generally means they're giving you an answer they don't really want to give. two, for democrats, the message for them, dr. northam, soon to be governor northam, fit the state. he matched the state. here's a guy who voted for george w. bush two times, remained a democrat. the democratic party, we've got
to expand our tent and welcome him. it's unclear to me if the schumer/pelosi wing of the party would have selected him as a nominee if they could have. the fact that he won that nomination withcauliffe's help, deserves a lot of credit for how he's expanded that state. almost 6% of virginians said they love the way the state is headed. democrats shouldn't overreact. we should study these races, study all the races you mention, including phil murphy's race. there was a nationalization there, but he also ran a little different race. and one thing i do agree with congressman brat on and senator cornyn, these are local races. we can't nationalize this. these things we've done over the last four to eight years, obama was really, really good at it. we can't win if this race is about washington democrats. we win if it's about the democrat that's running. and congratulations to all those democrats that won yesterday. >> appeal to those in the district that you are talking
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now to breaking news from washington. cnbc is reporting that the government has reportedly set a major condition for the proposed deal between at&t and time warner. sources tell cnbc's andrew ross sorkin that the justice department wants at&t to sell either cnn or direct tv in order to clear the agreement. joining me on the phone is cnbc's andrew ross sorkin. also with me is msnbc legal
analyst, danny cevallos. andrew, walk us through your reporting. >> first of all, thank you for having me. you know, we've been working on this story all day. i was doing it with my colleagues at "the new york times." and we really -- it was a surprise to us and i think, by the way, a surprise to at&t and time warner. they had expressed this transaction to be completed by the end of this year. and by all indications, up until several weeks ago, that seemed to be the case. there have been new demands made by the department of justice, literally in the past several days, offering them two options, as a settlement to get approval for this transaction. one would be selling cnn and what's known as its turner assets. the other would be selling direct tv. now, it's important to note that from a strict anti-trust policy perspective, neither of these sales would necessarily make sense, but when you put it in the larger sort of broader
political context and you start to think that president trump has made some very political comments about cnn historically, while he was on the campaign trail, as you know so well, said that he was not going to approve this transaction. and so, there are real questions about how much political overtone these demands really suggest and whether at&t would accept any of these demands. our reporting thus far shows they do not intend to do either of these things. and that, in fact, they may go to court against the department of justice, if they were to seek to block the deal. >> andrew, in your reporting, does at&t believe that this is a political decision? >> our reporting which is, yes, the people inside both of these companies do believe that there is a political element to this. it's worth noting that the new head of anti-trust enforcement for the department of justice
had said in previous interviews before he had this position, back when he was a professor and he was asked to analyze this transaction, where he suggested very plainly that he believed that if you just looked at strict anti-trust policy, that the deal would be approved. he has now been put into this position very recently. and of course, things have taken a very different turn. >> danny, how unprecedented or how unusual is this? >> think of it this way. every year, the department of justice and the federal trade commission review over 1,000 merger applications. and by the ftc's own numbers, 95% of these present no issues, no anti-competitive issues. because that's exactly what they're looking for. mergers, horizontal mergers that create anti-competition. and anti-competition, obviously, hurts consumers, which is what they are looking for. so, when you consider this recent issue, you have to ask the question, do those
particular assets that the doj wants gone from this merger, do those particular items create anti-competition? do they stop competition to the burden or to the detriment of consumers. and just looking at it so far, i don't see what that would be. certainly, the doj has their reasons, but legally speaking, the core of the clayton act, which is the law that they are probably proceeding under, is anti-trust, anti-competition. >> so andrew just mentioned this. and we all know this, because we all have a pulse nowadays, but the president has -- we've always had a pulse, i should say. the president has repeatedly criticized cnn and andrew said that politics is suspected to play a role in this from those two companies. if it has played a role, what does that mean, legally? >> i think legally at the core, the doj has to have a valid
reason under either the clayton act or any of the other anti-trust laws to show that these particular assets create that anti-competition. and not because of any personal vendetta. if they have no reasonable grounds to make these demands, because procedurally this is how it works, the doj can command these changes, but if the merger participants don't agree, then the doj can file a lawsuit. and if they feel comfortable filing a lawsuit, big able to prove, to meet their burden, that this violates the clayton act, then they have to be able to do so. it can't just be based on the president saying, i don't like a particular product. >> could at&t, though, invoke the president's comments about cnn, in order to argue their case dpens thagainst this? >> i think that would be an interesting and unprecedented-style defense, because at&t can legally oppose this right up to and after a case is filed in court by the doj. >> danny cevallos and cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, gentlemen,
thank you very much for being here and andrew, thank you so much for coming on and helping us walk through your reporting. >> thank you. turning now to actor kevin spacey who is facing a new sexual assault allegation this hour. the accuser is a then-18-year-old boy whose mother says her son encountered spacey in nantucket in 2016. his mother is a former boston tv anchor and she came forward this morning to share her son's story. >> it happened late night inside the club car restaurant and bar on nantucket island. my son was not of legal age to drink alcohol. he told kevin spacey that he was of legal age. kevin spacey bought him drink after drink after drink. and when my son was drunk, spacey made his move and sexually assaulted him. spacey stuck his hand inside my son's pants. my son panicked. fortunately, kevin spacey left briefly to use the bathroom and
when he was out of sight, a concerned woman quickly came to my very shaken son's side and asked if he was okay. obviously, she had seen something and she knew that he was not. she told him to run and he did. he did not report the crime at the time and that was largely because of embarrassment and fear. >> this is the first family to go on camera. they say they have filed a police report. nbc news has reached out to spac spacey's attorney on the most recent allegation, but we have not heard back. this is the latest in a growing list of accusations of sexual misconduct against the actor. his representatives have previously said that spacey is taking the time to seek evaluation and treatment. but netflix has cut ties with him and indefinitely suspended production of "house of cards." nbc's kate snow sat down with that man's mother. kate, what else did she have to say about the incident?
>> reporter: she had a lot to say, katy. her name is heather unrue, and she's a former tv anchor here in boston where i am right now. she's well known here, but she said today, i am not speaking as a journalist, i'm speaking as a mother. and through tears, she talked about how difficult this has been for their family. they had to really talk a lot about whether to come forward, as you just said, her son filed a police report last week, but did not report it in the summer of 2016, even though his mother thought that maybe they should. but she said he was embarrassed and he was ashamed and he was worried about coming forward. she described to me what happened that night in the restaurant. he was a busboy at this restaurant on nantucket island called the club car. his shift had ended, he meets kevin spacey, he's totally starstruck. and everything's going well, she says, until suddenly it became a sexual assault. >> it wasn't until kevin spacey
put his hand inside his pants that he really knew he was in trouble. >> you say he didn't consent to that? >> absolutely not. absolutely, there was no consent. it made him incredibly uncomfortable. he did try to shift his body, because that's the only thing he knew might help. but kevin spacey continued to put his hands back in his pants. >> so it didn't just happen once? >> no. >> reporter: again, since he's talked to the police, katy, that means this could become a criminal case. she certainly wants it to become one. she says the family believes that kevin spacey, as much as they loved him as an actor, they believe that he belongs in jail. katy? >> nbc's kate snow, in boston.
kate, thank you very much. and you can catch more of kate's interview tonight on the "nbc nightly news." check your local listings. and last night marked the first significant victories for democrats since trump took office. but is the party celebrating too soon? virginia governor, terry mcauliffe, who just sat down with governor-elect ralph northam and who you remember from monday on my show joins me live. terry is going to be here for a victory lap. stay with us. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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voters made a statement last night, but not just because of the party they voted for. look at the people they chose to represent them. in new jersey, people in hoboken elected the state's first sikh mayor. meet raabe bhalla. also, a woman who was upset by a politician's sexist joke decided to challenge him and she won. ashley bennett is atlanta county's new freeholder. in virginia, chris hurst was elected to the state's house of delegates. his girlfriend, allison parker, was a local reporter in 2014 when she was shot and killed during a live broadcast. his platform included gun violence prevention. >> i wish that i was still with allison, was still a journalist working at the television station that we worked at together, but that wasn't the plan that god had intended for me and for her. and so i thought about trying to forge a new path and create a
new plan. >> then there's danica roem, who was also elected to virginia's house of delegates. she will be the first openly transgender legislator to be seated and serve. roem's opponent, a 13-term incumbent, who reportedly called himself virginia's chief homopho homophobe. >> i think you have to start at the state level to start, you know, securing our civil rights and making sure that we're focusing on the core quality of life issues for those of us who are in government instead of, you know, tearing people down. >> i'm joined now by democratic governor of virginia, terry mcauliffe. he's also a former dnc chair. governor, you were here on monday. let us remind the viewers what you said. poli polls are tightening. are you concerned that your party will be in serious trouble if northam can't pull this out? >> let me be clear, and you can play this back on wednesday morning, we are going to win the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general.
>> it is -- it's not wednesday morning, it's wednesday afternoon, but governor, you were right. so, so the floor is yours. take your victory lap? >> well, it's not really about victory. it was a great night. we swept all three statewides. but katie, we also right now have picked up 15 house delegate seats. we still have three more that are within 100 votes. we could get control of our house of delegates before yesterday, you know, we only had 34 democrats out of 100. it was an earthquake that occurred in virginia. and the reason was, number one, people were very happy with the state. it was an affirmation of the policies that myself and ralph have worked on on job creation and education. and number two, it really was a rejection of donald trump's fear and divisiveness and, you know, the campaign, republicans had run a very divisive campaign. so last night was a real rejection of that and an affirmation that they want folks to actually help their lives and create jobs and focus on health care and education and health care was the top issue coming out of the exit polls, which is
important, because we've worked hard to expand medicaid. and we're going to get that done in january. >> congressman dave brat said health care, the problem with that was that republicans didn't adequately convey to the electorate that health care was collapsing and that obamacare, the premiums were going to go up. and that medicaid was actually just -- was actually more of a referendum on obamacare, because it wasn't working. what do you think about that? >> dave is part of our virginia congressional delegation. he is a tea party member. i couldn't disagree with him more. listen, medicaid expansion for virginia, it's about $2.2 billion a year. we would provide health care for 400,000 virginians. it's critical. katy, i'm very concerned as governor on december 1st, you know, i may have to send a letter out to 66,000 children, because they have not reauthorized c.h.i.p. yet. and the point is, we should have the best-quality health care in the country. we don't have it. and president trump, by taking away the cost-sharing subsidies,
my premiums are going to go up 55% in virginia. we don't -- haven't reauthorized c.h.i.p. i mean, trump has created havoc for governors who are trying to run their medicaid programs and for states that didn't expand, it really puts us in a bind. so i'm going to put it in my outgoing budget in december. and i truly believe that in january, they are going to vote to expand medicaid here. last night was a resounding message to these folks that voters want results. and it's important that we deliver health care. >> so what does your party do for 2018? what lessons do they take from virginia? >> i talked to a lot of the leadership of the party last night, the congressional leadership. candidates have to lean in on the values. they have to lean in on things that they believe in. they are going to help people's lives. i have always argued every day i talk about building that new virginia economy, our unemployment has gone from 5.4 to 3.7. the second lowest now of any major state in america. a record amount of new jobs, a record amount of investment.
that's what voters want. that's what citizens want their elected officials to focus on. we put $1 billion in education, single largest investment in virginia history. they want better schools. they want better jobs, they want better roads. that is the message that democrats need to talk about. now, i also have been the most progressive governor of virginia history. i, as you know, have restored more rights than any governor in the history of the country -- >> they tried to use that against you and ralph northam. >> and it backfired. ralph won by nine points. and i'll tell you, katy, it was really nice yesterday on -- you looked on twitter and facebook and all of that, people were putting up on the sites that it was the first time in their lives that they had voted. 40 states it's automatic. virginia the 41st state. people deserve second chances. but i said i was going to do it and i did it. i'm doing what i said i would do. that's what they want out of that you are elected officials. they're tired of politicians sticking their finger up in the
wind to see which way it's going. lean in on what you believe in, and that's what the democrats have to do. to think that we picked up 15 house delegate seats is extraordinary. >> governor -- >> yeah? >> i have three questions and only one minute. i want to get them through. in alabama, doug jones versus roy moore, what's going to happen there? >> you know me, i'm the ultimate optimist. you don't need someone like roy moore in the united states senate. i think what you've seen, people want folks to work together, come together, and roy moore would be a very destructive force in the united states senate. it's not going to help us get health care. it's not going to help us do infrastructure, so i'm going to go -- let's call that a win, too. >> okay, what about the virginia statehouse? what's going to happen there? >> so that will be up, we've got an opportunity for three more seats in the house of delegates. in 2019, the state senate is up. and you look at what came out of yesterday and the record turnout we had. and look where that turnout was, in northern virginia, extraordinary numbers came out of there. if you're a republican in virginia today, you've got to
look at what happened last night. and you've got to be terrified. and you better come back to the general assembly and say, putting all of this horrible partisan anti -- the social legislation, i'm going to put that aside and i'm going to work with the democrats to make virginia a better place to live. >> governor -- >> that's the message. >> sorry, you're out of office in a few short months. so when are you going to announce for 2020, to run for president? >> well, as i said the other day, katy, i want to finish here strong. i leave on january 13th. and i'm going to work on the redistricting. i'm going to work to help elect 36 governors. i'll be traveling the country extensively next year helping all as of these races going on, being very visible doing that. i look forward doing it, spending a little time with the five children and my beautiful wife of 29 years. >> that is not a "no." that's not a, no, i'm not running. i'll take it and leave it there because my producer is yelling in my year. thanks for keeping your word to come back on. we appreciate it.
and they're arguably the most misunderstood voting bloc in america. former obama voters who turned to trump in 2016. how are they feeling about the decision they made exactly one year ago today. our jacob soboroff went to florida to find out. and i'll speak to the woman who lost her job after she gave donald trump the bird. stay with us.
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in case you forgot, donald trump was elected elected presi year ago today. we won flipping six states barack obama won in 2012 including florida. crisscrossing the country, talked to voters in swing states that could decide the election. one of his stops mayport, florida, home to one of the largest naval bases in the country. well, he recently went back to find out what people there think of trump's presidency so far, and he joins us now from our los angeles newsroom in debrief. so, jacob, has anything changed? >> reporter: yes -- well, no, actually, katy, to be totally hon effort. donald trump still has a lot of fans in mayport. when we first went there a year ago, water cooler talk, donald trump was dozeno, politically
speaking. had just spoken with the khan family and mayport is a huge military town. we went there, were very, very surprised by what voters told us then and equally as surprised now. take a look at this. >> wow. slide that. >> that's a kingfish. >> king mackerel. >> a pretty-looking fish. >> reporter: in august of last year, this seafood owner was on to something in jacksonville where he counts naval station mayport and the coast guard as next door neighbors. >> do you feel this area is as important to the election in november as everybody's saying it's going to be? >> yes. i think there's a silent trump thing going on right now. people that might not want to admit it. >> reporter: chris was right. not only did duval county go for trump over clinton so did florida. just over a year later, i found him back on the same dock. >> you were right. how did you call it? >> talking to my customer, talking to friends, family, even my children would come home from school and talk about other parents.
you know? saying, hey, you know, joey's mom and dad are voting for trump. and some of the people, you wouldn't expect that. >> reporter: you ultimate fell into that category? >> i did. as a businessman and someone's regulated heavily i wanted that off my back. >> reporter: inside some employees were sticking with president trump, too. >> for you back then it was about, i remember you told me. i'm from a military family. >> military. >> reporter: and wanted to make america great again. >> beautiful. military, yes. >> reporter: you regret it or feel good about it? i don't know. democrats need to come up way good idea and may have changed my vote. >> reporter: i noticed you have a coast guard sweatshirt on. >> i do. >> reporter: what's that about? >> my sister has been in for about five or six months and then my boyfriend's been in about a year. >> reporter: did you vote? >> i did. >> reporter: who did you vote for? trump, all the way railroad y. >> reporter: you voted for
trump. >> all the way. >> reporter: how are things now, worse, better? >> definitely better. patriotism and things like that. >> reporter: across the street, a new expanding business. a new retail store. >> do you get the sense, chris, over the next three and a half years under president trump will affect this business in one way or the other? >> well, if things continue like they are now as far as the economy and regulations, yeah. it would affect us greatly. >> reporter: in a positive way? >> in a positive way, yep. >> reporter: as we got ready to leave one of chris' suppliers pulled up to the dock with a fresh load of shrimp. >> did you vote for him this past november? >> yeah, yeah. >> reporter: since then. anything change for you? >> no. good entertainment on the news. >> reporter: entertainment on the news and that stuff doesn't bother you, all the feuds and that? >> no. i don't think it bothers the working man, bought it's just -- it's media. >> reporter: do you get the sense the president is -- is making sure that these containers that come in from asia go back with american
products in them? >> yeah. i don't know if he has that much pull, really. >> reporter: he can only do so much. >> he can only do so much. >> reporter: so, katy, the blue wave in new jersey and virginia, of course, is getting a lot of attention today and rightly so, but it has not apparently hit this group of swing voters in the swing district, in the swing state of florida. not quite yet. >> that sea 'hofood owner, the economy kicks up, started under obama, we should point out and keep getting regulations back, he'll be doing well. what regulations affected his business? >> reporter: we didn't talk quite frankly about the regulations. oftentimes that's what you hear from donald trump supporters. they liked the tone of the message much more than the specifics of the message itself. >> jacob, nice to see you. thank you very much. >> reporter: thanks, my friend. and it was -- let's call it the one-finger salute to the president nap wth
went viral. a woman flipping off the president last month. it came with a price. reported it to her employer it was her a government contractor, she was fired. the company has nonreturned our request for a comment. j julie briskman joining me live for her first tv interview. first questions first. why did you think it was necessary to give the finger to president trump's motorcade. >> first, let me say thanks for having me on today, katy. i really appreciate it. it was a spur of the moment decision. lots of things were going through my mind about how disappointed i am with this administration. i didn't really have any other way to express my opinion to mr. trump, and so the finger was what i had at the time. >> so you reported this -- tweeted it. right? and then reported to your company that that was you, and
your company -- immediately fired you. is that the same way they treated other employees in their company who have done something on social media that has had, made a bit of a -- had political implications? >> it's exactly the opposite of the way that they have treated at least one person that i know about in the company who had posted lewd and obscene comments on facebook. there was another person that i highlighted to the company had posted lewd and obscene comments on a feed and he was told to clean up his facebook and was allowed to keep his job. >> swear words and calling somebody a liptard? >> yes, among other explicatives around that, yes. >> so what's the difference here? why were you fired and why was he not? i mean, we should say we reached out to the company and they have
responded to us. >> katy, i can't really answer that question for them. i don't really know why my treatment was different than this other person's treatment. i think the company would have to answer that question and i really would like them to. >> given the fallout, do you regret doing this? >> i don't regret doing this, katy, no. >> what about those in the country who would point to you and say you may not like him or agree with him, but he is the president of united states and just the president, because of the office, doesn't deserve something like that? >> i would completely disa glgr. i don't think he respects the office. i don't think he respects his position in the world. i don't think that he respects women. i don't think that he respects minorities or the office, i don't think he respects the idea of having a cabinet of advisors. so i don't respect him, and luckily i don't live in a
country where i must respect him or there are severe consequences for me. >> we do have free speech, as you -- you're right. >> yes, yes. >> jewel. there's a gofundme page raising money for you. you are a mom. >> yes. >> you're out of a job. what do you do next? >> i'm really not sure what i'm going to do next. this has come out of the blue for me. i really just wanted to go for a bike ride. at first i thought it was kind of funny that my photograph was taken, that somebody showed it to me. this has blown up beyond my expectations and i haven't had time to look at opportunities presented to me. i need to go through a lot of messa messages. i have more than 1,000 friend requests. my twitter account gone from 20 or more to more than 50,000 at this point. i need to look at everything on the table. >> do you want your old job back? >> i don't think so. i think i've come to learn that this company doesn't have the same values as me. i need to go work for a place or
a cause that has the same values that i do, and i don't think that this company has that. i have some friends there that i'd made and adore and would like to keep in touch with them, but i don't think it's the right fit for me. >> last night your state delivered a pretty strong rebuke of the president. do you feel vindicated in some way? >> i do. i received a text on my way down here, katy. a friend of mine said i think all of virginia was riding your bike, or riding the bikes with you positive the poll to the po. i'm very proud of my state. we have 234r50eat least 15 in te and maybe at many as 18 according to mcauliffe just on your show. >> julie briskman, appreciate your time. thank you. we reached out to her company for comment but haven't heard back. if and when we do we will bring that response to you. that wraps things up for me this hour.
ali velshi picks things up from me. >> are you coming back today? >> no. i'm 1-2. i'm good. >> enjoy the afternoon. good afternoon, i'm ali velshi, election wipeout and now democrats are trying to capitalize on this changing tide. the remarkable losss for republicans come exactly one year after president trump was elected president. but it seems the ballot box is now a referendum on trump. today the revenge of the suburbs is sending shock waves through the republican party. >> i think it's -- it's important for republicans to self-reflect all the way, start from the top. >> the divisiveness, the hatred, the bigotry, the politics that is tearing this country apart is not -- that's not the united states of america that people love. >> we have to start at the state level to start, you know, securing our civil rights. >> the margins of these victories, turnout, energy, are astonishing. >> are you