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nixon, if you want to learn about watergate, learn about what the country was like and what was going on in the country. and the way to start understanding that is to understand '68. >> oh, and there's a little bit of collusion in the victory in the end that is worth -- it's actually richard nixon used collusion with the foreign government, the south vietnamese in order to win in the end. >> and for the rest of the story, playing with fire is now available in bookstores and online. if you can bear the sound of my voice for hours on end, the audiobook is available too. that's tonight's last word. "the 11th hour with broian will jams is next." $15 million for flynn to have a turkish president's rival sent back to turkey. also two republican senators tonight withdrawing their support for roy moore as the alabama candidate calls the sexual misconduct claims against him completely false.
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we're live in vietnam as president trump is half a world away from the problems back home in washington. "the 11th hour" on a friday night begins now. and good evening, once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 295 of the trump administration, and tonight it is now clear that the attention of robert mueller is for the time being, at least, bearing down on mike flynn, the retired u.s. army general who was one of the stall warts of the trump campaign effort and who served as national security adviser for 24 days in the west wing. nbc news reports today mueller is investigating a possible deal between senior turkish officials and flynn during the presidential transition. this report says, in part, quote, four people familiar with the investigation say mueller is looking into whether flynn discussed orchestrating the return to turkey of a chief rival of turkish president erdogan who lives in the u.s.
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flynn was offered upwards of $15 million to be paid directly or indirectly if he could complete the deal according to two sources familiar with the meeting. flynn's lawyers released a statement about the story saying, quote, we have intentionally avoided responding to every rumor or allegation raised in the media. today's news cycle as brought allegations about general flynn ranging from kidnapping to bribery that are so outrageous and prejudicial we are making an exception to our usual rule. they are false. flynn, you'll recall, among trump's earliest campaign supporters, he served on the transition team before following the new president to the white house. sormer acting attorney general sally yates over at justice had testified six days after trump took the oath of office she warned the white house flynn was compromised with the russians. she also testified that vice president mike pence had unknowingly made false statements about flynn's conversations with the russians. and administration official has
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said pence was relaying what flynn told him. 18 days after yates' warning, trump fired flynn. here's how he explained why he did it. >> did you fire mike flynn? >> mike flynn's a fine person. and i asked for his resignation. he respectfully gave it. he is a man who there was a certain amount of information given to vice president pence who's with us today. and i was not happy with the way that information was given. >> did you direct mike flynn to discuss sanctions with the russian ambassador? >> no, i didn't. >> prior to your inauguration? >> no, i didn't. >> would you have fired him if the information hadn't leaked out. >> no, i fired him because of what he said to mike pence, very simple. mike was doing his job. >> we ultimately fired, but we fired for a different reason. >> you're talking about general flynn? >> general flynn, yes.
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>> because of lying to the vice president? >> yeah. but everything plays in, everything plays into it. but we fired him because he said something to the vice president that was not so. let's bring in our starting panel on a friday night, shall we. nbc news national political reporter julia ainsley, more on that in a moment. political white house reporter matthew nussbaum is back with us, and jennifer rodgers, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. good evening and welcome to you all. julia you get to go first because, of the panelists, you made the news today. tell us this story as best you can for a lay audience, including how in the name of god it also includes the poconos and pennsylvania? >> that is a good question. i will break that down for you as simply as i can. basically we know that robert mueller is looking into whether or not michael flynn and his associates met in a december
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2016 meeting at the 21 club in new york. that is an upscale restaurant just blocks away from the trump tower where flynn was serving on the presidential transition team. we understand from sources who are familiar with this meeting that they allegedly talked about a $15 million bribe that they would try to give flynn once he was national security adviser if he could see that fi tul la len. in order to remove him, that could have been through a kidnapping operation, or through extradition. we also know that the fbi had re-upped their investigation, they were asked to re-up their investigation into gulen at the beginning of the trump administration when flynn served as national security adviser. this was after they had already dismissed the investigation under obama. we're looking at a number of pieces. what mueller is trying to drill
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down on here is whether or not michael flynn, trump's first national security adviser, was exploited to use his position in the u.s. government in order to serve the interests of another country, that country being turkey. >> julia, isn't it true we also know about this meeting in the turkish angle because a certain former cia director came in and thought it didn't look or sound right to him and he has since told that story. >> brian, that's two separate stories. the former cia director woolsey is referring -- using his position just within his own lobbying firm and trying to orchestrate a forcible removal. this meeting we know about now actually happened during the transition when flynn knew he would be becoming national security adviser later and it may have involved a more legal route such as an extradition. of course it is not normal, not appropriate route for an
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extradition request to come from the white house. it's supposed to come through diplomatic channels in the justice department. >> so counselor, this comes down to you. someone said on social media today that if there could be anything funny taken out of this, this could be the plot from a cohen brothers movie with general flynn driving around the poconos looking for this old guy to send out of the country. as a former prosecutor, what alarm bells go off in your head? >> well, it's not good for flynn, no matter how you slice it. if he's talking about taking money to try to orchestrate a return of gulen to turkey through official channels, then you're talking about serious bribery offenses, you're not allowed to take money to do things for your government job, except your salary. if you're talking about him trying to orchestrate some illegal operation, it's obviously a federal crime to orchestrate kidnapping that crosses international lines. either way you look at it he's talking about committing a very serious crime if these allegations are proven to be
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true. >> matthew, how does this continue to haunt the administration that, after all, continues even though the traveling white house right now is on the other side of the world? >> in some ways it's convenient that they're over there in asia for now while this news drops. sarah sanders and the rest will have to confront this when they get back. it would be hard to overstate how serious this is. obviously the manafort indictment was serious for which white house. that was someone who left the campaign in august mike flynn was with the campaign through the end, prominent in the transition and served in the white house over the warnings of the president obama who told president trump not to hire him. and you have to remember it was michael flynn who donald trump was defending to james comey and said can't we find a way to let this go? he went on to later fire james comey which led to bob mueller getting here in the first place. this flynn case is very, very serious for the white house, more serious than the manafort case. >> matthew, let's go deeper on
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that. this is more than just a news media distinction. flynn does put it closer to the oval office of a sitting president than anyone else, people may have seen splashy headlines about paul manafort and others, but this would put it in a different category. >> that's right. at the end of the day, as important as paul manafort was in this campaign, he was the campaign chairman. he was helping to lead a political campaign. what we're seeing with flynn with these allegations is possibly using his government office, his position as the national security adviser, to be basically doing deeds on behalf of a foreign government. it's a question of who in the white house knew about this. we know that flynn allegedly misled the vice president. but having this so close to the oval office and then again having the president himself ask the fbi director to back away from this investigation, that raises so many red flags. obviously bob mueller is digging into that. >> julia, assisting the prosecution as often is the
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case, there is a grand jury sitting in washington, d.c. you've learned further about their schedule of late. what can you report about that? >> yes, that's right, brian. we know the grand jury that's been impaneled by robert mueller will be interviewing witnesses through the end of next week. a lot of people have been waiting for a flynn indictment. since the manafort indictment we thought flynn would be the next shoe to drop. we know mueller is continuing the interviews. he wants to drill deep and get as much information on flynn as he possibly can. it also shows that flynn perhaps could be cooperating, and that's why this timeline has been extended. >> counselor, i want to hear you out on a piece in "time" magazine written by the former assistant director of counterintelligence for mueller while at the fbi, robert anderson. the headline is how robert mueller works a case. here's a quote from it, in part. "when you talk about people who are used to spending more than
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$1 million in three years on business suits out of a place in cypress, these guys are not going to do 25 years in jail. that's why bob mueller's going about this the way that he is. he knows these guys are not seasoned criminals and he knows they're going to roll over on each other. mark my words, it will start becoming a race to the special counsel's office." i also heard someone today refer to mueller as an back y-- preci they've gone about the case so far. >> that's clear. that's the point behind the substance and heft of the manafort gates indictment to get them to cooperate. similarly, here, they have charges they could bring on flynn already. the registration, the foreign agents registration act defense and false statement offense is not enough to get him to flip. you bring potentially, if they can, these charges which are significantly more serious, and flynn already, unlike manafort, has indicated an interest in getting immunity and perhaps
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cooperating. i think they think if they can get a serious enough offense against flynn he's definitely flipping. >> do you concur with what seems to be the present attitude we know between 1% and 10% going on between all reporting, mueller runs a tight ship. >> that's right. that's the way it should be honestly. these are confidential investigations going on. until they bring actions that are meant to be public then i agree they should stay confidential despite the great work of the news media. we have a lot of work to do still. we'll find out in time. >> matt, let's delve briefly into the trump agenda. while all this is going on, we're hearing a lot about tax cuts and tax reform and soon the traveling circus is going to come back to town and we're going to be all about capitol hill once again. >> that's right. i mean, we know this administration has a hard time driving one message. we've seen that this week when
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tax reform and the asia trip were supposed to the big thing. obviously roy moore made short work of that. between this controversy down in alabama and the white house having to answer for that, and mueller's investigation expanding, and these new questions about flynn, you couple that with the fact that this tax bill looks like it actually raises taxes on a fair amount of middle class families, that's a lot of issues for the white house to be coming back to, this is not an environment that's friendly to complex and politically difficult as tax reform. >> our thanks to the leadoff panel for leading off coverage on friday night. julia apes l julia apes lee, matthew nussbaum, jennifer rogers. coming up, supporters announced no longer supporting roy moore. live to vietnam, the most controversial item on the president's agenda prior to wheels up and heading home, "the
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i don't know ms. corfman from anybody. i've never talked to her. never had any contact with her. allegation of sexual misconduct with her completely are false. they are politically motivated. brought only to stop a very successful campaign. that's what they're doing. >> that was republican senate candidate roy moore of alabama today categorically denying a "washington post" report that he initiated a sexual encounter
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with a 14-year-old girl back in 1979. moore was then a 32-year-old assistant da at the time. the post also interviewed three other women who said moore took them on dates when they were teenagers. nbc news has not verified the allegations. the reporting is based on over 30 sbeinterviews of people who w moore during that time. the women have not filed police reports or civil suits. more than a dozen republicans have called on moore to step aside if the allegations prove to be true. just three senators, john mccain, mike lee and steve daines have fully denounced moore as a candidate. and former gop mitt romney wrote on twitter today, innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. i believe lee corfman, the woman in the article, her account is too serious to ignore. moore is unfit for office and should step aside. president trump continues his
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asia trip this week, hasn't addressed these allegations directly. today, however, during a press briefing on board air force one, press secretary sarah huckabee sanders chose her words carefully here. >> like most americans, the president believes we cannot allow a mere allegation, in this case one from many years ago, to destroy a person's life. however, the president also believes that if these allegations are true, judge moore will do the right thing and step aside. >> well, let's talk about all of this. stuart stevens is with us tonight. he's a campaign and political veteran. he served as mitt romney's chef strategist for the 2012 campaign. and indira is back with us. thank you for being with us. stuart what's going on here, a day's full of news coverage today, various people coming on television and radio, normalizing an adult and a teenage girl. >> listen, it's really not
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complicated. roy moore in this interview with sean hannity did what all the bad guys do in law and order when they don't have a lawyer, he basically indicted himself. he said it was in his 30s, assistant district attorney, did go out with girls young enough he had to ask their moms for permission. i guess he thought that was a defense. but, i mean, look, if you're in your 30s and you're going to take girls young enough you feel like you have to ask their mother, that should have been the first clue that something was off. and so he's saying these girls are 16, 17 and he was attracted to them in his 30s, which is weird. but he wasn't -- doesn't have any -- can't imagine him doing anything with someone a couple years younger. i mean, look, he should step aside. it's clear. it's a disgrace. >> where is your party, stuart, and where are the profiles in the u.s. senate for starters? >> this is a situation where the
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president could be very helpful. he's wildly popular with republicans in alabama. i think that they would listen to him and i think the president should look at this and ask roy moore to step aside. there are various mechanisms that could still guarantee republicans have a shot at this election. otherwise, to condone this, to accept it is to condone it. if you don't call it out, in my view you're cone doning it. >> indira, your view of what is we're witnessing here? i'll give you another curve ball, the bannon effect on all of this. >> right, well, of course, steve bannon, the guy who backed roy moore and pushed for him against luther strange who would have been the more mainstream candidate. what i have to say about this, there's so many disturbing elements. one is, as stuart said, that during this interview with sean hannity that roy moore essentially said, well i did know two of these four women.
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not only did he say well, i never asked any teenager out without getting her mom's permission which, again, sort of stunning and shocking that he was doing it if the first place. then he said the girl who he supposedly plied with alcohol when she was underage, oh, i'm sure i didn't do and that she didn't drink underage, i remember her as being a good girl. immediately putting the blame on the young woman herself. the other thing that's so disturbing is how the alabama gop has reacted. i mean, pretty much across the board, alabama republicans have stood by him saying that even if these allegations are true, that they still would vote for him over the democrat and one of them, the auditor general of the state compared this to mar yan joseph and said mary was a teenager and joseph was an adult carpenter, and they were parents of jesus. and i thought, oh, my goodness, the bible says that mary was a virgin. and that god was the father of jesus and how in the world can you use this to justify dating
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teenage girls? it's appalling. and, you know, the senators in the u.s. senate who are coming out against him keep saying if true, if true he should step down. how are we supposed to prove this? what do these four women have to gain putting their names out there, their entire life histories. "the washington post" sought them out, and really did bullet proof reporting on this i find very hard for anyone to say that's not true. >> that required some courage from the women they encountered and interviewed. also, indira i've heard it said this week that, if true, has become, as phraseology goes, if true, has become the thoughts and prayers of last week. >> exactly. >> so stuart, on the bannon angle, we have this immovable object who is going to be a part of our politics whether republicans or democrats like it or not. i want to play for you jeremy
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peters of the "new york times" talking to steve bannon about the majority leader in the u.s. senate. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> do you think mitch mcconnell will be the majority at this time next year. >> i do not. >> is that your personal mission to make that not happen? >> it's not my personal mission but it is an objective -- i have an objective that mitch mcconnell will not be majority leader and it will be done before this time next year. >> stuart, what do you make of that threat? >> the idea we're on national television talking about a weird doe like steve bannon is stunning. this guy was in the hate business at breitbart. the thought he latched onto this campaign, he seems to think people were voting for him. i don't think anybody cares what steve bannon says. he's not a republican in any sort of sense of what it is.
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he's called himself a len nonnist. i think he's someone who obviously doesn't look like a very happy person who's kind of working through these issues on a national platform. >> well, indira how else to explain what a weird turn our politics have taken? >> it's upsetting. when there are republican strategists out there like stuart who are taking a stand and saying this is wrong, at least we can have hope, mitt romney coming out and taking such a strong stand i also thought was extremely reassuring and, you know, we know that, of course, he's looking into a senate campaign from all the reporting. i want to contrast this moment in history, though, to 2012 when todd achen, you may remember, was the republican who was running in missouri against claire mis mccaskill. in legitimate rape.
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if you remember he was so roundly attacked for that. women's groups like emily's list raised money against him. he was defeated, of course. what is really different here is the way that even though there have been all these avalanche of allegations of sexual misconduct coming out in all different professions now, ever since the harvey weinstein thing, that the alabama republican party and the current senate gop we have is still at this moment backing him, as you say, using this if true, without ever telling us how are we supposed to prove whether it's true or not, again when these women have nothing to gain from this other than putting their names out there in a very embarrassing way. i hope they'll be more in the party who will stand up about this and really push roy moore aside so that there can be a better republican candidate who can run in this race. >> indira, always a pleasure having you on. stuart it's great to have you back on our broadcast.
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through it. peggy noonan is here. we're fortunate to say, also an msnbc political analyst. welcome, as always. >> thank you. >> i'd like to take you far back in history to a simpler time, tuesday night. >> so long ago. >> with these news cycles it sounds like it's a year ago. what happened in virginia, and i ask you knowing a bit about your theory it was broader and deeper than virginia. >> yeah, we had westchester and long island that had been reliably kind of republicanish and suddenly we're kind of democratish, new jersey wasn't surprising. here's the thing about virginia. everybody thought it would be close. everybody thought ed gillespie might be catching up as he caught up with mark warner a few years ago. and yet it was a blowout, just a blowout. he lost really big. the issue i think the president took it right in the face in
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this, the issue was donald trump. spoke to a whole lot of people down there, also was down there on my own. this was about trump and it was about people saying i don't like what you've been doing. it was an indignant reaction to him. a republican office holder told me literally people were showing up at voting places saying i'm here to vote against trump. so that is -- it was a rout and it was a warning for the white house, and for trump supporters who always have a sense of i think they always think their numbers are much bigger than they are. and i think they're not sufficiently disturbed about the president's inability to expand from a core so far an indy soluble core. it's the big story of the first year. >> with all that as the
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predicate, what is happening in alabama? what about when the bills come due for this conversation going on in the country? >> the sexual harassment thing? oh, man, this is huge, it's really epic. in my time as an adult i have never seen a country suddenly take issues of sexual harassment and abuse in the workplace so seriously. i think the key here is, first of all, journalistic entities, newspapers and magazines, should be -- should be patting themselves on the back for having committed the resources and the time. you know how time consuming these investigations are. >> that's right. >> they're real investigations. they're not just this happened today. it's something where an editor has to say, okay, you can take two months and we're going to put ten people on it and they get the story. what it comes down to, the big change now is that predators have good reason to believe in the future they will not get away with it.
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why? because on sexual harassment we've broken the code. old cases used to be he said, she said. the cases now that are so convincing and believable have to do with numbers, the sheer number of people giving their testimony, both with their names or not named. and the sheer detection of patterns. it's what got harvey weinstein. it's what's gotten a lot of these fellas. it's -- i'm so interested in the fact that it's hit so many political and media and show business personalities. somebody said earlier today it's as if everybody in front of a camera is nuts. you know? >> in 30 seconds or less, your reaction to the great newspaper war of 2017. it happened too late to save print, per se, but to your point, these are great days to be in the news media business. >> oh, yes. you know, many people are disturbed that institutions and
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american life are failing. you know what? the law seems to be doing pretty well. the courts seem to be doing pretty well. journalism as i observe is flourishing. i have my own problems with what i perceive to be its bias, narrowly class-based look at the world. >> that's right. >> that having been said, investigative prowess and the joy of you sense in newspapers and magazines lately, the joy of getting up in the morning and going after the story. i think it's actually moving to see. i love it. >> at another date we'll debate the word joy in the morning. >> i keep going too long. >> somewhere between joy and trepidation. always a pleasure. thank you very much, peggy noonan as always for spending time with us in the studio. the president is a world away. we are tracking his travels, we're live in vietnam after the break. i saw the change in rich when we moved into the new house.
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three days remaining in the president's asia trip after his stop in vietnam. the president heads to the philippines where he's expected to meet with the president, rod re reco duterte, condemned by human rights groups. last may trump drew fire for saying duterte doing, quote, an unbelievable job. with us in vietnam is jonathan la mere. we last saw jonathan in one of the photos from this trip on board a u.s. military helicopter with another of our friends, ashley parker of the "washington post." great to see the kids grow up and fly around in black hawks. we're also joined tonight by one
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of jonathan's colleagues in washington as we welcome to the broadcast ken thomas, also an a.p. white house reporter. jonathan, i'm told we have a sizable satellite delay between you and us, but i'll go ahead and ask, was there as much surprise on the trip as there was back here to hear the president's comments on china after running so hard against china in the campaign and as president saying he really doesn't blame china for what they've been up to economically vis-a-vis the u.s.? >> there's no question, brian, that the president pulled his punches. we know night after night on the campaign trail, rally after rally, he accused china of manipulating the currency, of healthy and terrible trade imbalance. he one night said china is raping our country. we heard none of that in beijing. he flattered the president and
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the skill of chinese negotiator. in the room he was set up to scold the president, and he didn't. he said he didn't blame china, he blamed the u.s. predecessors. white house aides have said this was deliberate, the i don't blame line was not in the president's prepared remarks. the sentiment was they feel like better off with the chinese to flatter them, not embarrass them publicly, but to work behind closed doors towards the issues, not just of trade, but also north korea. >> so, ken, there's all the evidence that this was intentional and they're willing to live with how different this looks and sounds from the guy who was campaigning to the base because they say they're going to do the work of this gathering behind the scenes. >> that's right. i think they feel like, you know, it was better to flatter
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shi, try to establish a relationship, accept his hospitality and not say anything in front of him that would humiliate him. this is an important relationship on north korea. he's trying to get shi's help on north korea. and, you know, to go after him publicly on trade, i think, would have probably sent the wrong signal. >> ken, do you think that's a sign? and we don't mean anything patronizing here, that there is a diplomatic maturity at work where the u.s.-china relationship is concerned? >> it's possible. i think there's also a realization that this is a huge piece of the portfolio, that the president really feels like if he can establish good personal ties with shi, that it will pay dividends down the road as it relates to north korea, as it relates to perhaps improving the trade imbalance. >> all right, jonathan lamere,
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preview the philippines portion of this trip. this is fraught, and of course it's had a long-term relationship with the united states. >> that's right. the president goes to the philippines on sunday here in asia. we, as you chronicled, president duterte has sanctioned a drug war that includes extrajudicial killings. he has bragged on the personally killing a man, at least one in his life. it has certainly been customary for presidents past to use moments like this to chide, to rebuke, to school on human rights, to make that public statement about why these kind of things are not american values. i don't think we should expect to see this president do that here. the white house has sent signals, they say if trump delivers any kind of message like that, it will be done in private, not be done in public to upset duterte. they value this relationship with the philippines.
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they don't want to push philippin philippines closer to beijing. this is a pattern. it's a president who has co zied up to strong men. putin in russia, this week we saw it with shi, no mention of human rights violations or individual liberties in china. that's not what this president does, that's not his style. i would think despite uproar from human rights organizations around the globe as to what's been done in the drug war, the president will not talk about it publicly. >> foreign and domestic tonight, jonathan laleer, ken thomas, thank you for coming on our broadcast. another break for us. coming up our next guest considers it his job to regularly remind us these are not normal times we're witnessing. that when "the 11th hour" continues. whoooo.
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it's not normal for the president to obsess about cable news coverage of himself. it's not normal for the president to publicly criticize the mayor of london on the basis of flawed facts right after a terror attack that's killed seven people. it's not normal for the president to attack, and this is purely hypothetical, of course, tv news hoes by name, including a personal attack on a woman's intellect and appearance. brian, it's not normal. >> that was from this very broadcast on the six-month mark of the trump presidency. that was mike allen, our veteran of our business, cofounder of the news site axios, cofounder of politico. he's worked at the "new york times," "the washington post," time magazine among others, we're happy to have you back, mike allen. i'm guessing your look at what's not normal, the lead story tonight would be attempts to normalize any kind of relationship between an adult
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male and a 14-year-old girl. >> certainly not normal, brian, and brian, tonight is going to be meet the cousins night. i have a couple of cousins for you. cousins of it's not normal. one of them is never before. so brian, never before have we had a president who would publicly threaten, prod the justice department and his own prosecutors to go after the opposition party as the president has done over the donna brazil incident in the democratic party. never before, brian, have members of the president's own party been so reluctant to say what they said privately. a couple senators, senator mccain, senator flake of arizona, corker of tennessee, publicly denouncing this president. privately as you know they'll
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say plenty. publicly as you said at the top of the broadcast, this is the president's party, no doubt. >> mike allen, you have published a number, i call it the pessimism index. this really got got our attenti. 59% of americans believe that the united states is currently undergoing the lowest point in its history. this is according to the american psychological association's annual stress in america poll. but notably this includes 56% of those hague 72 and over who lived through pearl harbor, world war ii and 59% of millennials came of age post 9/11. is the most depressing number i've seen published in recent times. and i'll have to tell you some of the news we covered tonight this seems like the number is true. >> what's so striking to me
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about that and congruent with the reporting throughout the country, this is not just the bubble. so much of what we talk about has to do with the beltway or perhaps silicon valley bubble or d.c. or new york bubble. no, this is america. and like you've always been so in touch with america, red states, blue states. and even in states where the president won, and the nbc "wall street journal" poll this week showed erosion even in the trump counties and trump states. so there you have it down to the county level. then the cover of the economist this week, they have the bald eagle with donald trump trulike hair and saying endamaged, americas stand in the world. so, brian, it's not normal for the president to walk away from some of the powers of the presidency. rather than projecting power
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abroad, rather than at home, acting as the consoler in chief, another power of the presidency. it's not normal for the president to put those aside. so the last time we talked, the president had, the little clip you showed, the president attacking london. after the bike path in new york, you have the president attacking the leader of the democrat of the chuck schumer allowing him to be the country. that's normalal. >> thank you for preserving your role of what normal is should be. the coproducer of axios. thank you. >> never before, brian. happy weekend. >> you too. >> after a break, a story you may not know about someone you've seen on the air on the "the 11th hour" many times before.
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last thing before we go here tonight has to do with veterans day, which begins minutes from now with the a rival of the 11th day of november. you've heard me introduce as retired u.s. colonel jack jacobs
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as the nice man to comes in on occasion to analyze military stories. most folks have no idea what jack jabs objeccobs was capable earned him the highest honore. here is what was led allowed. for a conspicuous in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, captain jacobs, then first lieutenant, distinguished himself as serving as second battalion 16th infantry army of the republic of vietnam. when it came under intense heavy machine gun and mortar fire from viet cong. as the second battalion deployed in attack formation, its advance
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was held by fire. with the command of the company called for air strikes on the positions to facilitate a renewed attack. due to intensity of the heavy casualties including the company commander, the attack stopped, and the friendly troops became disorganized. although wounded by mortar fragments, captain jacobs assumed command of the allied company, ordered withdrawal from the exposed position, and established a defensive per immer. despite bleeding from head wounds, with complete disregard from his safety, returned under intense fire to evacuate a seriously wounded adviser to the safety of a wooded area where he administered life saving first aid. then returned through heavy automatic weapons fire to evacuate the commander. captain jacobs made many troops across the rice paddies evacuating wounded and weapons
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of the on three separate occasions he drove off viet cong squads, single handedly killing three and wounding others. his actions and extraordinary heroism saved the life of one u.s. adviser and 13 allied soldiers. through his effort the allied company was restored to effective fighting unit and prevented defeat of the friendly forces by a strong and determined enemy. captain jacobs by his gal anty and bravery in action in the highest traditions of the military service has reflected great credit upon himself, his unit, and the u.s. army. that was the citation for our friend jack jacobs and that is what veterans day should be about, for jack and people who have worn the uniform.
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