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>> probably nicer than my opinion. i might take you up on it. >> thanks for watching. i'm jacob soboroff at msnbc world headquarters. president trump is clarifying his comments about pressing putin on election interference. >> president putin really feels, and he feels strongly that he did not meddle in our election. what he believes is what he believes. >> facing fallout from his criticism of u.s. intelligence, the president again took to twitter to defend a relationship with russia. his tweet storm included shots at north korean leader kim jong-un while suggesting they could one day be friends. we've got team offer couldage this afternoon as the president enters his final leg of his asian tour but we begin in the philippines the fifth and final stop on president trump's trip to asia. the president attending a gala earlier today before arriving, he walked back earlier comments in which he called the former heads of three intelligence agencies political hacks, and
told reporters he believed vladimir putin's insistence that russia did not interfere in last year's election. >> i'm surprised there's any conflict on this. what i said there he believes that and it's very important for somebody to believe. i believe that he feels that and russia did not meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not i'm with our agencies as constituted with our leadership. i believe in our intel agencies. >> the president's words and tweets though do not always match up. he used nearly all of the 280 characters he now has on twitter just hours before his remarks and criticized the "haters and fools" who criticized his pursuit of a closer relationship with russia. he also took another swipe at crooked hillary clinton. msnbc senior national correspondent chris jansing is traveling with the president and joins us live from manila. president seemed to stay on message and now not so much.
what happened? >> reporter: $6 million question, right, people who say melania trump left the trip and moderating force, so maybe that's what happened, maybe he's tired. he is getting toward the end of what has been a grueling 12-day trip, but for supporters of president trump, this is the guy that they voted for and this is exactly what they want to see. they want to see him going after the people who suggest in any way that perhaps his election was illegitimate, so that's why when the whole question was brought up, was he siding with vladimir putin against the intelligence community, and went after by name former heads of the various intelligence agencies, brennan and comey and clapper, he got pushback and that's when he sort of tried to modify what he said, but what he said was very clear, and in fact, he repeated it many times. he does believe, however, i think at the heart of this, is that he believes that a relationship with vladimir putin
is a good thing. it can help him with issues like what to do about a nuclearized north korea, and also gives him an opportunity to draw a contrast with people like hillary clinton and barack obama, whom he has also criticized in recent days as being unable to build those kinds of relationships that he thinks could even save lives, jacob. >> the president wants that w relationship with russia to ask about north korea. it has been a huge focus of the trip. what was the president tweet being kim jong-un this weekend and what's the fallout been from your vantage point there in. >> reporter: look, back and forth, right? it started with kim jong-un saying that he was a lunatic old man, and there was a quick response from the president, again who has been very disciplined on this trip, but he responded to kim jong-un and they've had a long going back-and-forth. he wrote why would kim jong-un imsult me by calling him old
when i would never call him short and fat? i try so hard to be his friend. first of all let's say that he of a lunatic old man, he went after the old part of it, not the lunatic part of it, some people are pointing that out, but a lot of folks said maybe he's being just sort of tongue-and-cheek when he says about being his friend but when asked about it, he sort of suggested maybe that could happen. it's not likely to happen but if it did, it would be very, very nice if it did. this fits into a pattern with the president whether it's china's xi or here with duterte or with kim jong-un, he believes that building relationships show that he can do things no one else can do. he can make deals that no one else can make although we have not seen that up to this point come to fruition. jacob? >> chris jansing in manila, 3:05 in the morning thank you for going strong, staying up with us. we'll talk to you in the next hour. appreciate it. and coming up, with me now former senior director of the
national security council, former special assistant to president obama and current msnbc contributor, ned price, "washington post" political columnist dana milbank and "time" magazine contributor jay newton. ned, i want to start with you. you describe and i think many people have seen this on twitter the president's actions as the charlottesville model. let me go through it. he said what he inexplicablely believes. two, advisers coaxed him into begrudgingly saying what everyone wants him to say and three, he will repeat number one before long. i assume you think this model is a dangerous one. how dangerous is it? >> well, jacob, we've seen this movie before, as i was pointing out on twitter, most vividly displayed in charlottesville when he went back and forth as to whether there were good people on both sides, concluding there were in fact good people on both sides, including apparently the neo-nazis. this is dangerous in this case
because the president is clearly siding with a former colonel of the kgb over his own intelligence chiefs, now what he said most recently clearly at the coaxing of his most senior advisers is he was trying to parse words and he thinks president putin himself does not believe there was any meddling. even that doesn't hold water. as you may recall the intelligence community concluded in january in the public assessment that president putin himself directed this multifaceted campaign to interfere in the u.s. elections, so it certainly doesn't hold water that president trump agrees with his intelligence community but also seems to find plausible putin's denials he had anything to do with it. >> james clapper, who was mentioned by the president, you just mentioned him, talked about all of this. i want to play how he described the dangers of not taking vladimir putin seriously. let's watch that real quick. >> putin is committed to undermining our system, our
democracy and our whole process, and to try to paint it in any other way is i think astounding and in fact poses a peril to this country. >> a peril to this country. ned, do you agree with that? >> absolutely. look, russian interference is a threat to our democracy. it was a threat to our democracy in 2016 and it will be a threat to our democracy in 2016 and especially 2020, unless we do something about it. there's another important point here, jacob, is that as a country, as when it comes to our diplomacy, we can and must walk and chew gum at the same time. by that i mean we can confront russia about these things. we can pursue punitive measures as the obama administration did, and as the trump administration must but we can also continue to work with russia in places like syria, on issues like nuclear disarmament, on issues like climate change even though i find that unlikely under this
administration. we must confront russia but yes there may be areas for cooperation and it's the job of any competent administration to find out how to do both. >> dana, let me go to you. we showed these tweets earlier from the president, basically defending his interactions with vladimir putin. what do we believe when the president says one thing and then ultimately tweets something completely different? >> well, we have this running battle between twitter trump and teleprompter trump and what you see is this playing out again. basically he says what he's really thinking on twitter. it's sort of when you're supposed to take a deep breath and count to ten, but the president doesn't do that. he just bursts out with whatever he's thinking on twitter, so that's the clearer sense what have he's thinking. what you see as you were just explaining is sort of the walk-back after that. that's what he's supposed to be saying but he leaves no doubt about where he really believes in the first place and of course the rest of the country it
doesn't seem to be so much a partisan thing for an ideological thing but if you don't agree with him, you are a fool or a hater and you are trying to kill americans by not working with russia. >> and jay, speaking of tweets, i want to read what president trump tweeted about kim jong-un. i was shocked when i saw this last night. "why would kim jong-un insult me by calling me old, when i would never call him short and fat? oh well, i try so hard to be his fle friend, and maybe someday that will happen. north korea has been a huge focus of this asia trip. how much does this undermine the diplomatic efforts out there? >> it absolutely undermines a lot of the diplomatic work most of the american diplomatic corps as well as donald trump's staff has been very anxiously working on for the last week, really few weeks leading up to this trip and on this trip particularly with china but also with south korea and other of these asian powers where you're trying to bring a certain tone into the room. you're trying to sort of calm things down, throw cold water on
sort of tensions and say let's take a step back, let's see where we can make progress, where we can do some sort of sensical actions that might like take us a step away from hostilities, and then the president goes and tweets this. it's notable that also he was responding to kim jong-un's tweet calling the president crazy and old and he didn't respond to the crazy part. he responded to the old part saying he was insulted to be called old. this sort of back-and-forth between two leaders who are definitely the hot heads amongst these groups of leaders when you look at the asian leaders as a whole, doesn't help when the rest of the room is trying very hard or the rest of these diplomats and heads of state to calm things down and really move away from tension. >> almost funny nuclear war i suppose wasn't on the line here. jay, i want to turn to president trump's upcoming meeting with rod ree dough duterte, himself talking about doing extra judicial killings. he told president obama to go to
hell and a lot worse. president trump has praised him for his tough tactics on the drug war in the philippines. what interests you the most about this upcoming meeting? >> there have been, they've been compared a lot as similar personalities, very bombastic, telling truth to power, saying they're populist in both their countries and they're popular with the people with certain groups and bases of people conservative bases. duterte really wants something particular out of trump. here he wants america to give back the sort of what they would call the spoils of war in the philippines, which were taken after the american occupation of the philippines so he's trying to sweet talk his way around trump. that's been a theme of a lot of these leaders greeting trump in asia has been to host trump to flatter him to give him as xi jinping did in china a state dinner plus plus which trump was excited about and get what they want out of donald trump and
that's the tactic duterte takes toward trump. wrz towards barack obama and other u.s. presidents he's been less flattering. >> thank you very much. i know jay and dana you will be back later this hour. first more fallout inside the white house sunday in the sexual misconduct scandal surrounding alabama senate hopeful roy moore. >> i think there's a special place in hell for those who perpetrate these crimes and i think roy moore has to do more explaining than he has done.
accusations have more credibility than the denial. it would be best from roy would step aside. >> i think it's inappropriate and i would just really like it if he stepped aside. >> two more republican voices telling alabama senate candidate roy moore to step aside after allegations of a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old
girl while he was in his 30s. moore is categorically denying "the washington post" reporting. nbc's vaughn hilliard is in birmingham, alabama. the election is december 12th, one month from today. what's been the local reaction there? >> reporter: jacob, i corresponded with two officials today. no indication the gentleman will be jumping out of the race. there is a potential over write-in candidacy like luther strange, the current sitting republican senator from alabama but he a month and a half ago lost to roy moore. what is the alternative in this race? there's a democrat, doug jones is the gentleman's name, a former u.s. attorney here from alabama. he actually prosecuted two klansmen in the 1963 bombing at the 16th street baptist church. could a democrat win in bam pam? over the last 7 hours talking from town to town across alabama and there was originally little indication that republicans would be willing to move away
from roy moore despite these allegations but i want to tell you about conversations i had, in the suburbs of birmingham where doug jones would have to surmount a credible campaign. connie thomas never voted for a democrat in her life but i talked with her after she was leaving her church service this morning. this is what she had to say. >> i'm going to vote against roy moore and vote for doug jones. he's a good man, i think he's a man of integrity and i can't say i feel that way about roy moore. >> reporter: you've never voted for a democrat? >> never voted for a democrat. >> i think it's just people are attacking him because he is a christian and because that's how the world works. >> reporter: a new poll just came out and we're reluctant to tie ourselves to any polls nowadays especially a month out and under these circumstances but doug jones the issue for him is what does he do as a democrat running in the state? he's not going to fund raise off of opposition to donald trump or to the white house because that
will not play well. he has no public events on his schedule right now. where will we see doug jones? meeting with doctors, educators is what a campaign official told me today, but as for being a loud voice against roy moore we don't expect much from that end. >> vaughn hillyard following this close, thanks. joining us is josh moon his latest title "there is no bottom for roy moore republicans." thank you for joining us. you write in your story there's a difference between capitol hill's reaction and the local reaction. we heard a little from vaughn hillyard. what do you mean by that? >> there has been a separation here between the capitol hill republicans and our local folks here that was evident in that campaign against luther strange with roy moore. i think it's important for people to kind of understand the numbers here. first of all, turnout for that primary between luther strange and roy moore and the runoff was
between 1% and 15% of the registered voters here, so you're talking about a low turnout race and it's going be the same way in the special election against doug jones which is roy moore has a loyal cult-like following here in this state and they believe him almost above everyone else. they've followed him for years. roy moore didn't just start showing up with controversy last week. he's been doing this for years. and so they have on his side and following him and they've become. like this little cult and you can count on them to show up with a certain percentage every time he's on a ballot somewhere. this sets up perfectly for him. he can count on the group and those are the people you have to convince to move and you can't do that. the only thing you can do is convince people to push back against those folks and drive republicans to the polls, moderate republicans to the polls to vote for doug jones which is a hard sell in alabama. >> what do you make of the tactic of the strategy that
vaughn was talking about earlier, the potential for a write-in campaign for luther strange? at the end of the day some of those republicans not vote for jones but take votes away from moore. what are the consequences? does that give the democrats a chance there? >> yes. i think the best hope for roy moore, or for doug jones is that people will just stay home. first of all you're not going to mount much of anything for a write-in candidacy for luther strange. it's just not going to happen. he has so many problems here in this state with, traces back to the previous governor appointing him as he was being impeached and to stop the impeachment process. there's a lot of problems with luther strange here with people in this state. so they turned against him and a lot of moore's support in that primary were people who were coming out to vote against luther strange. so you're not going to get that, but what you can do out of a lot of this, i think, is get people to just flat stay home on december 12th instead of going out and voting for roy moore or
voting against a democrat. now people view doug jones as maybe the lesser of two evils, so to speak. i hate to put jones in a category there of evil, because he's certainly not. he's a reasonable man. you know? >> who prosecuted two klansmen as vaughn pointed out. josh moon all eyes will be on your state. appreciate you taking the time out of your sunday to spend it with us. thanks a lot. >> thank you. coming up, stranger things, after a really odd twitter attack on north korea's leader, president trump suggests the two could one day make amends. what the statements mean for tensions, as trump wraps up his asian tour. >> strange things happen in life. that might be a strange thing to happen, but it's certainly a possibility. into an ally account. and if that's not enough to help you save, we could help you cut the cord. that's right. cancel it. what about my reality shows? ok, if that's not enough, we'll give you reality.
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saturday he resulted to name calling and mocking north korea for his size after kim jong-un's foreign ministry described trump as a doddard which translated as an old lunatic. "time" magazine contributor jay newton and "washington post" columnist dana milbank. president trump was on message most of the trip. things fell apart saturday. the "new york times" suggested he might be tired. is that what this is? >> certainly that has been a trend when he gets tired, when he does send out these sort of tweets he goes off message and you saw that in the campaign when he had very late nights, longer speeches he went off message. in this case it's interesting the tweet he's responding to, also calls him mentally unstable in that same tweet and chose to focus on the old aspect of all of those insults that's the one he responded to, donald trump responded to with kim jong-un. it is striking, he spent this
entire trip in asia trying so hard to be on message talking about trade issues, talking about issues of national security and then at the end of this, he does really kind of go off the rails. this tweet and also tweets against hillary clinton, barack obama, it's just been sort of an interesting classic weekend for donald trump on the twitter field. >> dana, counselor to the president kellyanne conway was asked about the tweet this morning on acing. listen to what she said? >> i think that was the president just responding the way he does to somebody who insulted him first but i look at the full context of his entire trip and everything that he's trying to do, i think it's been an incredibly successful and inspiring trip for those who care about north korea, not being nuclearized. >> that was the good old schoolyard defense of he said it first. did you get the sense conway did a good job of playing cleanup here? >> well it's pretty hard to clean this up, so i guess she was doing the best she could with what she had to work with. look, we have the president of
the united states out there on twitter doing everything but saying nana, nana, booboo. we are out there on a playground unfortunately dealing with a guy who has nuclear weapons. we've seen this over and over again with trump and each time we try to say what's he up to, is there some strategy, something behind this, and each time we seem to find out no, there really is no strategy. he's tired or that's just what he was thinking in the moment, and it would be very funny indeed if the fellow he's dealing with and taunting with names did not have nuclear weapons. >> here, here, amen to that. jay, later the president was asked if it's possible to be friends with north korea and its leader. he said i believe it's possible. stranger things have happened in life. he's sending mixed messages to north korea, insulting kim jong-un and saying it's possible to be friends, frenemies may be more realistic.
what does he accomplish bashing and reaching out to kim jong-un in the same tweet? is he consciously trying to accomplish anything? >> jacob this is a tactic of donald trump's that goes back to the art of war. wants to flatter them and at the same time strike out. it's meant to stabilize and be unpredictable, show he can be nice and mean and they better choose the nice side. that's something he's done not only with kim jong-un in the past and this week as well as xi jinping, even vladimir putin who mostly he's pretty nice to, he has in the times past certainly gone against putin's wishes like for example in his actions in syria. but this is something that trump considers his tactics i could say in negotiating being at the table and making sure that everyone's a little unstabilized, not sure what's going to happen, very unpredictable. at the same time most u.s. diplomats would agree when it comes to a country like north korea and a dictator like north korea the u.s. probably should
be taking upper ground and not responding to tweet taunts. >> certainly i would imagine shell shocking to kim jong-un to get a tweet like that and also a lot of people in the united states. good to talk to you today, jay newton-small and dana milbank. it has been one year since donald trump won the president in a historic election night upset. after the break, some voters who helped that happen and how they feel about the president's performance so far.
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ultimately decide that election. one of my stops was in florida. it was mayport, home to one of the largest naval bases in the country and a year later i went back to see how things have fared since president trump was elected. wow. that's a dipping tish? >> king mackerel. >> reporter: that's a pretty looking fish. in august chris wooten, a lifelong democrat was on to something in jacksonville. he counts mayport and the coast guard as next door neighbors. do you feel like this area is as important to the election in november as everybody is saying it's going to be? >> yes. i think there's a silent trump thing going on right now, too emthat might not want to admit it. >> reporter: chris was right. not only did duvall county go for trump, so did florida. just over a year later i found him back on the same dock. you were right. how did you call it? >> talking to my customers, talking to friends, family, and even my children would come home from school and talk about other
parents, you know, saying hey, joey's mom and dad are voting for trump. and some of the people you wouldn't expect that. >> reporter: you felt ultimately fell into that category. >> i did. s aaas a businessman and someon who is regulated heavily, i wanted that off my back. >> reporter: inside, some of his employees were sticking with president trump, too. for you, back then, it was about i remember you told me, i'm from a military family. >> military. >> you wanted to make america great again. >> built up on military. >> reporter: you regret it? >> hell no i don't. i'm happy with my vote. if a democrat come up with a good idea, maybe i'll vote for them. >> reporter: i noticed you have a coast guard sweat hirt on. >> i do. >> reporter: what is that about? >> my sister has been in for five or six months and my boyfriend's been in for about a year. >> reporter: did you vote? >> i did. >> reporter: who did you vote for? >> trump all the way. >> reporter: you went for trump? >> all the way. >> reporter: how do you think
things are around since donald trump became president? same? worse? better? >> definitely more patriotism and definitely better. >> reporter: do you get the sense, chris, anything over the next three and a half years under president trump will affect this business in one way or the other? >> well if things continue like they are now, as far as economy, and regulations, yes, it would affect us greatly. >> reporter: in a pass of it os. >> yep. >> reporter: one of chris' suppliers pulled up to the dock with a fresh load of shrimp. did you vote for trump last year? >> yes. >> reporter: how have things changed since then? >> good entertainment on the news. >> reporter: that stuff doesn't bother you the feuds and all that? >> no, i don't think it bothers the working man because it's just, it's media. >> reporter: do you get the sense that the president is making sure that these containers that come in from asia go back with american
products in them? >> i don't know if he has that much pull really. >> reporter: he can only do so much. >> he can only do so much. >> i don't know if he has that much pull. joining me democratic congressman al green of texas, formerly called for president trimp's trump's impeachment and vows to force a house vote before christmas. first a little bit. i got grief from many people on the left when that spot first ran because we went to talk to trump supporters whom they consider just a vocal minority. what is your take on what we just heard and do you think there's value still in hearing them out? >> well, anecdotal evidence has its place. i hear a lot of anecdotal evidence as well. there are a good many people of the president that the president is unfit to hold the office, and they plan to come back to the polls in large numbers. i think that will make a difference in the next election but the next election is a long way off, and in the interim there are other things that we
can do. >> david axelrod is one of the critics of the idea of a movement to impeach president trump, a former adviser to president obama. how do you plan to force a vote on president trump's impeachment and how much support do you sense that you have from fellow democrats? >> he's not alone. there are a good many people who are of the opinion that this should not take place, but it's really not about democrats or any given person. this is about our democracy. it's about government of the people, by the people, for the people, and it's not about republicans. it's about the republican, whether we can keep the republic. the constitution provides that a president can be impeached pursuant to article 2 section 4. this is what we plan to take to the floor of the house, constitutional records are going to be presented in the sense that we'll have an impeachment resolution. now, when we present this, there will be an opportunity for people to have a moment to
consider it within two days after it's presented, we'll come back to the floor, present it again, and then there will be a vote. this is what any one of the 435 members of the house can do. and by the way, this won't be the first time that it's been done. member has done this before. i will do it. we'll get a vote. i cannot guarantee any results. the only thing i can guarantee is that i will vote for impeachment, and i will do so because this president is unfit. he has taken discourse to a level that we've not seen. he called a member of congress whacky. the member of congress from florida, miss wilson. the president does these things and he goes back to the white house, where he's protected. miss wilson has had to suffer threats. there was a prayer vigil with reverend al sharpton there just recently to support her. these things are a detriment to the fiber and fabric of our country. calling people who are racist,
known racists who are bigots saying that they're nice people, this is not america. our country is much better than this, and the way for us to remedy this is with impeachment. i don't guarantee results, but i guarantee you that there will be a vote. >> if i could ask you quickly, congressman, because we have to run, this week you endorsed the weekend voting act along onside martin luther king iii. what are the odds and age of president trump, you talked about our democracy, anything that would make voting easier would pass? >> i think that president trump is creating a backlash. this is not celebrating what happened in virginia and other places. it's a recognition that people are fed up with this behavior, the kind of hurt and pain that he's causing. i think that in a congress that is properly balanced, i think it will happen. i think that we have to continue the struggle. you don't get these things
overnight, but weekend voting is important to wage earners. aside from that weekend voting allows people who but for that opportunity might not have the opportunity to vote. i encourage it and i'm going to support it. >> amen. let me just say that. congressman al green, thank you very much. i really appreciate it. coming up, new blood. the democratic party is riding a wave of victory following tuesday's elections, but will those victories be enough to rebrand that party after some damaging claims about the inner workings of the democratic party? we're going to delve into the discussion right after this. causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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it's been just one week since a gunman opened fire on the first baptist church in sutherland springs, texas, killing 26 parishioners, including children. today the community is holding services to honor the victims and also opening a sanctuary at that site for people to pay their respects. joining me now is the democratic
governor, mr. malloy. when you heard about another mass shooting, what went through your head? >> well, i've heard of a lot of mass shootings since then in the last five years. about 48 hours after the shooting in newtown, i said publicly that, you know, that kind of shooting is going to come to your town or your state unless we do certain things about it. in connecticut, we've done those things and as a result we've lowered crime very significantly. we've lowered the number of homicides very significantly. but the reality in america is that no gun should change hands without a background check. we should not be selling arms to terrorists or people on the terrorism watch list. we should not be selling guns to felons, violent felons and certainly the armed services need to do a better job about getting their information onto our data sites. in connecticut, we use a couple of different data sites to make sure that we don't allow or
approve the sale of guns to people who shouldn't be getting those things. >> in the last hour, governor, senator john cornyn spoke outside that service in sutherland springs. i want to take a listen to that. >> the statement i hear most often is we need to do something. but here that something is pretty clear. we need to fix this broken background check system. i'll be introducing bipartisan legislation perhaps as early as tomorrow. my hope is that we can expedite consideration of this, get it into law and to make sure that this sort of thing never happens again. >> senator cornyn's legislation will include that the federal government is required to upload the conviction information it had on gunmen. what's your reaction to that? does this go far enough? >> no, it doesn't, and he knows it. let's be honest, he's one of the bad guys that wants to pretend he's one of the good guys. if he said no gun should change hands without a background check, i'd agree with him.
if he said we should close the gun show loophole in this nation, then he's legitimately be a good guy. quite frankly he's in a sticky situation, his state is in an uproar and he's trying to have it both ways. really, should we be selling guns to people without a background check or at a gun show? does that make any sense in america or anywhere else in the world? you don't see it happening. what's going on in his mind and other people's minds? basically nothing will come out of washington on this and it's left up to the states until, quite frankly, more of those murders, more of those mass homicides, come to more states and more towns and more cities and america wakes up. >> will that even do it? i hate to ask. >> i think, you know -- well, listen, he wants cover, doesn't he? he came out from that service and he wants cover. he wants to pretend that he's doing the right thing. but we can't let him have that, this kind of i'll do a little, therefore, you have to consider
me a good guy. when we know he won't vote to end the sales that aren't subject to background checks. we know he won't vote on a national basis to end all of the different ways that you can buy guns on the internet or at a gun show at your high school or on a person-to-person basis. that's where these guns that are being used more often than not are coming from. >> after the shooting in texas, your fellow democrats were calling once again for gun control, gun reform. let's listen to what the president of the united states had to say monday while in tokyo and i'll get your reaction on the other side of this. >> i think that mental health is your problem here. this was a very -- based on preliminary reports, very deranged individual, a lot of problems over a long period of time. we have a lot of mental health problems in our country, as do other countries. but this isn't a guns situation. >> this isn't a gun situation.
as you well know, the ar-15 has been used in some of the worst mass shootings in america. what do you think of the president saying this is not a gun situation? >> well, he is right, there is a mental health problem in america. but guns kill people. these mass -- these instruments of mass destruction that allow people to fire so many bullets in such a short period of time and kill so many people, whether it's from a high rise building or walking into a school or a church. so it's -- we've got to do something about it. the only way to really do it is to end sales of guns and trading of guns without a background check. >> governor dan malloy, appreciate you being here. thank you very much. we'll be right back. watch me. ♪ i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ♪
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12-day trip through asia. he'll meet with the philippines strongman president later today, but he is also clarifying remarks he made after a meeting with another controversial leader, russian president vladimir putin, remarks in which he seemed to suggest he believed putin's claims that russia did not interfere in our election. msnbc's senior national correspondent chris jansing is with the president in manila and she joins us live in the middle of the night. chris, what did the president say about his previous remarks? >> reporter: well, he's suggesting that he was misunderstood, that somehow we didn't understand exactly what he was saying and he tried to walk it back a little bit, especially after there was widespread criticism ranging from the intelligence agencies to people on capitol hill from both parties who all interpreted his remarks as saying he was siding with vladimir putin against u.s. intelligence on whether or not there was interference in the u.s. election by russia. let me