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3:00 p.m. eastern. >> i blew that up. i'm stephanie ruhle. we'll hand you off to our friend and colleague, andrea mitchell, for "andrea mitchell reports." matt lauer on the "today" show is let go after accusations of inappropriate behavior. savannah guthrie just learned it before this morning's broadcast. >> we just learned this this morning. as you can imagine, we are devastated and we are processing all of this. for the moment, all we can say is we are heartbroken. i am heartbroken for matt. he is my dear, dear friend and partner. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly? and i don't know the answer to that. missile test. north korea launching a new icbm possibly capable of reaching all the way to washington or new york. >> it went higher, frankly, than any previous shot they've taken.
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the research and development effort on their part to continue building ballistic missiles that can reach everywhere in the world, basically. >> i will tell you that we will take care of it. it is a situation that we will handle. and a tweet too far. president trump retweets several inflammatory anti-muslim and anti-immigrant videos originally posted by a far right british political group, some known to be fake. the white house press secretary defending the president a short time ago. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real, and that is what the president is talking about. that's what the president is focused on, is dealing with those real threats, and those are real no matter how you look at it. >> it is a disgrace, shameful, for the president of the united states to be spreading this kind of gossip, really. it's rumor and innuendo displayed visually in a very powerful way, but it may be completely distorted and
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misguided. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. in the u.k., the british prime minister has even commented on the president's tweets. we'll have that later on in the program, but we begin with today's news that hits very close to home. in an announcement this morning that is extremely difficult for me permanently becausonally bec involves a long-time friend, veteran and co-host of the today show, matt lauer. matt lauer has been terminated after news of inappropriate conduct. he did not react publicly to his firing. this morning savannah guthrie and hoda kotb discussed matt's dismissal. >> just moments ago nbc chairman andy lax sent the following note to our organization. dear colleagues, on monday night, we received a detailed complaint from a colleague about
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inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by matt lauer. it represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company's standards. as a result, we have decided to terminate his employment. while it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he has been at nbc news, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident. our highest priority is to create a workplace environment where everyone feels safe and protected and to ensure that any actions that run counter to our core values are met with consequences no matter who the offender. we are deeply saddened by this turn of events. but we will face it together as a news organization and do it in as transparent a manner as we can. that is a statement from our chairman, andy lack. we just learned this moments ago just this morning. as i'm sure you can imagine, we are devastated and we are processing all of this. i will tell you right now we do not know more than what i just
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shared with you. but we will be covering this story as reporters, as journalists. i'm sure we'll learn more details in the hours and days to come, and we promise we will share that with you. hoda, for the moment, all we can say is that we are heartbroken. i'm heartbroken for matt. he is my dear, dear friend and my partner, and he has been loved by many, many people here. and i'm heartbroken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. and we are grappling with a dilemma so many women have faced these past few weeks. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly? and i don't know the answer to that. but i do know that this reckoning that so many organizations have been going through and important, it's long overdue, and it must result in workplaces where all women, all people, feel safe and respected.
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as painful as it is this moment in our culture, this change had to happen. >> yeah, it did. this is a very tough morning for both of us. i've known matt for 15 years and i've loved him as a friend and as a colleague, and again, just like you were saying, savannah, it's hard to reconcile what we are hearing with the man who we know who walks in this building every single day. we were both woken up with the news kind of pre-dawn, and we're trying to process it and trying to make sense of it, and it will take some time for that. >> we're processing it with all of you at home. and we promise to be transparent and be straightforward and continue this important conversation. >> absolutely. >> and there is no real way to do this, but this show has been on the air for more than 65 years, and we're here because of you. we're supposed to bring you the news, so we're going to do that. >> and this is, of course, as savannah said, a time of reckoning for all of us. in fact, for americans in every workplace, men and women, we here at nbc news will be reporting on it vigorously
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according to the highest standards. let me bring in my colleague, stephanie gosk. stephanie, this is very painful in so many respects. for you, for me, for all of us. >> it is. we are very rarely in the position where we have to report on ourselves. and oftentimes, as you know, when you are very close to a story, uyou have to remove yourself from a story and let someone else do it because you are too close. but we're here, and we have to report this story. it is what we will continue to do in the days ahead dutyfully. on that note i can share with you more details about what we're learning. we don't know much about this accuser, but we do have a sense of a timeline, both in the statement by andy lack this morning as well as a statement that was in the "new york times" this morning, and it comes from the attorney, civil rights attorney in d.c., who is representing the accuser, and i will read that to you now. it says, my client and i met with representatives from nbc's human resources and legal
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departments at 6:p.m. on monday for an interview that lasted several hours. our impression at this point is that nbc acted quickly, as all companies should, when confronted with credible allegations of sexual misconduct in the workplace. while i am encouraged by nbc's response to date, i am in awe of the courage my client showed to be the first to raise a complaint and to do so without making any demands other than the company to do the right thing. you know, one of the things that has made this so jarring for people in this building today is the speed with which all of this happened, andrea, and you get a sense of it in that statement, that this woman and her attorneys went to nbc executives, to the legal department and human resources, that they sat with them for hours, and basically 24 hours later, the decision was made to terminate matt lauer from the company. >> and as you probably know as well, i only learned about this this morning minutes before the
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"today" show announcement when there was a companywide e-mail from our chairman, andy lack, and didn't know any more details. do we know anything more about the timeline, when this occurred? >> this particular incident, this accusation, in the way that we have learned about it, andrea, is that this was handled internally. this was a complaint that was made internally to nbc, the decision was made very quickly. we also know that there are reports being worked on by major news outlets, including the "new york times," looking at other accusations of which we have no details. and there was an illusion to that in andy lack's statement this morning where they came to believe that there were other similar accusations out there, and that certainly must have played a role in this decision. >> and in terms of a timeline of when the actual -- as well as the complaint, when the incident
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of misconduct occurred. recently? >> the allegation is that it began in 2014 at the sochi olympic games and then continued onward after that. >> stephanie gosk, one of the hardest beats for anyone to have, even in normal circumstances. these are not normal circumstances, but we'll continue to look for your reporting. >> thanks, andrea. and here in washington, president trump is heading to missouri this hour to sell his tax proposal which crossed a major procedural hurdle getting out of the finance committee last night on a 12-11 party line vote. key to that was support from at least two previous critics, senator corker and johnson, republicans both giving the bill major momentum if they can pull the votes together. garrett haake joins me from capitol hill with the latest. corp selections were better than anyone up there with the deficit
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notifications, with the director notifying me personally on the air that it was a gimmick, that it was larger than that, but they were bringing it in under the rules just so they would only need 50 votes. the implications by many nonpartisan groups said it was really only $2.2 trillion down the road, unless they extend -- or if they don't extend these tax cuts, i should say. >> andrea, all of this has been built on the idea on the republican side that these things will ultimately be paid for by growth coming down the line. that's something that hasn't really been borne out in economic studies of this. what corker and some of the other sort of traditional deficit hawks in the senate like jeff flake have been trying to do is essentially design a system that says, hey, if this doesn't pan out like we think it's going to, we need to maybe jack the rates back up a little bit to make sure the federal government doesn't starve to death to maybe lose out on more money than we're anticipating.
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the sense we're getting on the hill talking to senators, talking to staffers today, is there is a real momentum to move forward. there does continue to be sort of two tracks here. some good faith negotiations going on between senators and their staffs trying to make tweaks on the spill and also for the realization for folks like ron johnson and steve gains who got proposals about the business tax side and there is some political reality about you need to get on board. we know that was the president's message yesterday, saying, look, this is a big deal and we need to be pulling in the same direction. it doesn't look like, from where i stand right now and the senators i've been talking to, there is enough concern about this bill among some of the republican senators who have been wild cards in the past, to stand up and press the stop button on this. we will probably see a motion to proceed to the senate floor to start debating this today and we'll see where they go from there. but it does feel like this bill does have momentum.
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>> while you were talking, mitch mcconnell just said from the floor that there is a motion to proceed. which means he must think he has the votes, which is shocked from when john mccain changed what he hoped would be the direction on obamacare appeal, but we have yet to hear from john mccain. >> reporter: he's been very quiet on this, andrea, much like he was during the health care debate. he said his piece, put out a statement almost a week and a half ago now when the finance committee originally passed this, saying he was pleased with the process, and he has said almost nothing about it since. i get the sense the real drama on this could happen after the senate passes their bill. all these changes and fixes and alterations we're talking about is happening on a senate bill. there is a house bill already passed and waiting in the wings, and the house context was equally measured. it could be equally difficult. >> they were making changes with
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susan collins to fixes on the health care side and others. they're making changes as we speak to a bill that has not had any hearings. it is a tax bill that will affect americans for decades, potentially. >> not only promises on this bill -- they're making promises on changes to this bill, you look at susan collins, they're making a promise to her to do another bill next, to do the alexander murray bill. so they are stacking this in an increasingly complicated way to try to get something done, and it does look tenuous. >> and they're making changes on a bill that would not have had independent analysis by the cbo or by other nonpartisan groups of the joint tax committee. so to be continued. garrett, thank you so much for all of that. joining me from the other side of the hill, democratic lawyer.
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thank you for joining us, mr. leader. motion to proceed. mr. mcconnell has announce that had it seems as though the president has rallied the troops, the republicans in the center are going to hold firm so far, at least, with promises tba. what say you on the house side? do you think you can stop this in conference? do you think this tax bill is now going to become a reality? >> i'm hoping it goes to conference, because if it goes to conference, it is not just blindly accepted by the house if, in fact, the senate passes something. but if that happens, it will be bad for the country. it's a bad bill. and what is happening is that senators are not deciding on policy, they're deciding on politics. they're deciding on the side politically they will be badly damaged. but they have taken neither the time nor the care to review this bill. as you just pointed out, it's being changed as we speak so
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that when it comes to a vote, if it comes to a vote this week, senators are not going to have the faintest idea what the rhar it's going to cause to the american people and some will lose health insurance as a result of some of the provisions and 32 million americans will get a tax break, not a tax cut, and the wealthiest americans will get over 60% of the benefits. none of this makes sense in terms of growing the economy, making jobs and making sure middle class americans can succeed. so that i think it's very, sle unfortunate the way this bill is being considered. and i would hope that senators would take the time and have the courage to slow this down, say no to things. we ought to work together with the democratic party for the tax reform bill as we did in 1996.
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>> there were two empty chairs at a meeting with the president yesterday. we had nancy pelosi's chair, of course, and chuck schumer's chair boycotting the meeting because of what pelosi described as the verbal abuse from the president in his tweet earlier in the day, a military zone tax increase and the like. that said, are you now dealing yourself out of this equation? what lench do you have when it comes to budgets and the dreamers, historically over the last seven years, republicans have been unable to come to agreement for fiscally responsible pieces of legislation. they simply haven't had the votes. that gives us a leverage. not a sense on their part that
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they had to simply get the votes. leverage had been lost with the votes. yesterday leader pelosi and leader schumer were ready to go down there and discuss like they had in the past to talk constructively about, how can we move forward. we had no drama continuation of government funding last september. the problem here is that the president said in his tweet, not only accusing us of not wanting people to flood across the borders. that is bologna. that is not true. we know we need to secure the borders, we need to watch who is coming in this country. we know it threatens people working in this country and it threatens all of us, so we need to confront that. so the president said,
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therefore, no deal is possible. he hadn't met, he hadn't sat down, but he was already saying no deal is possible. so leader schumer and leader pelosi were left with a sense that they were just being used as pawns to pretend that they were pursuing bipartisanship. in that case that was not something that i think they thought they ought to lend themselves to. if this tax reform bill and the repeal bill is a stark unwillingness to deal in a bipartisan fashion. >> let me ask you a. -- a question. conyers and former spokesman bob weiner came out last night to defend the president's behavior. let's watch this. >> his closet is right in his
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office right here. he changes clothes in his office. most of us have walked in on him accidentally without knocking and have seen him in his underwear. big deal! >> big deal? should congressman conyers resign? >> i don't think we want to, first of all, get into rationalizing behavior which is really unacceptable. i'm not going to go there. the fact of the matter is that he has stepped aside from being ranking member of the committee. mr. nadler of new york is now the acting ranking member of that committee. we need to make sure, a, we have a safe working place for all the women who work on capitol hill as well as the men. that's the first objective.
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everybody needs to know how to redress a grievance that they have without feeling threatened, witho without, so they know exactly what to do, we need to have training on that. we're adopting a training, mandatory training, for our members, but we need to do much more than that. jackie speier has a bill which will provide a better process, but we need to do even more than that. we need to make sure we have a process that works for the victim as well as the process which is done relatively quickly and with great consideration for the victim in this case, because it is terribly difficult to come fwarld. only those who kpare there needo
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have this done in a quick and orderly fashion. >> congressman conyers said there were five instances. should he resign? >> five accusations against congressman conyers. should he resign his position as an elected official? should he leave congress? >> i understand that, and the reason this is difficult to deal with is because we all believe in due process, i hope. we all believe that people have the opportunity to say, look, i didn't do this. now we're standing in the credibility of the witnesses. we have a process to determine were these allegations founded? if they're founded, yes, he should resign. >> thank you very much. thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. coming up, international
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outragement. president trump igniting a firestorm from his retweeting of videos from a far right british group. that's ahead. stay with us. everything you buy, not just airline purchases. seriously, think of all the things you buy. this why you asked me to coffee? well yeah... but also to catch-up. what's in your wallet?
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and president trump is under fire today after he retweeted and shared a series of inflammatory anti-muslim videos from a far right fringe british political group that has threatened military action against muslim s in the past. sarah huckabee sanders defending the president's actions today. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real and that is what the president is talking about, that's what the president is focused on, is dealing with those real threats. those are real no matter how you look at it. >> let's get the inside scoop from the white house correspondent for the "washington post," ann gearen, and reporter jeremy peters, also a msnbc contributor.
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this is now becoming a national incident. sarah sanders can say the threat is real. i don't know what threat she's talking about since several of these are fake videos, unreal videos. >> let's start with the number 10 downing statement which was swift and strong from the spokesperson which said the british people overwhelmingly reject the prejudice rhetoric of the far right group that president trump is sort of by proxy endorse big retweeting its material. and ends with a statement that the president is wrong to have done this. there is no direct response from the president or his spokespeople to that criticism yet, but i'm sure it will come. and it further raises the question of what the president's relationship is going to be like, not only with teresa may, but with the british public,
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really our most important ally, key to so much of what we need to get done. >> we've heard from american muslim groups, care, the islamic group, in protest of this. it's racist, it's discriminatory. you can go down the list. it's also hard to figure out the providence of why he retweeted this now, where he got it from, except i think we know that ann coulter retweeted some of this. some of this has been taken down because it's so inflammatory. >> it's perfectly in keeping with the way president trump has spoken about islam in the past. remember his comments from the campaign. islam hates us. this reflects a certain mindset among the far right that seeks to portray muslims and islam as a religion that is hostile to christianity, that is barbaric and that is inconsistent with american life. >> in fact, most recently after what we believe to be an isis attack in the sinai against a
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mosque, he tweeted something about, that's why we need the ball, the threat is there, as though there is any relationship there. >> this is also his pattern of retweeting these types of things fits with what he has been doing for years now. he has an association with characters on the far right fringe and their fake idealogy, from alex jones, i.e. anopolis. there are people who have trump's ears, at least on twitter, that he is not shy about valvalidating, and that i incredibly troubling. >> what about the "new york times" reporting that the president is also living in somewhat of a fantasy world, people on the hill suggesting he's in denial of the "access hollywood" tape that he had previously acknowledged, that he makes up stories and tends to believe them, or at least claims to believe them. >> i don't know if he really is living in a fantasy world, but we've certainly seen throughout his candidacy and presidency, a
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history of him saying things that are verifiably not true. and the fact that he says them publicly suggests that he either blooef believes them or he has a disconnect between saying them and the fact that he's going to be fact-checked or called on them. and that may owe simply to the fact that he came from a very different realm in new york real estate where bombast is certainly a tool of the trade. but in any event, it has not served him well as president because he's constantly asked to defend and explain things that he said. >> we're going to have to leave it there. jeremy, ann, thanks for being with us. going ballistic. president trump responding to north korea's intercontinental
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now to alarming news on that north korea missile launch. the regime's first missile test since september 15, the most powerful yet flying for nearly an hour at almost 3,000 miles at altitude which is beyond the orbit of the national space station. it went 624 miles before crashing into the sea of japan. if it was measured out, it would
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theoretically land in the u.s. and david albright, founder and president of the institute for science of international security. first to you, bill. the south korean reaction? >> well, andrea, the south korean reaction principally was a military one, because within six minutes of that launch north of pyongyang, south korea had responded with three missiles fired from land, from a navy destroyer, and from an f-16, a show of force by south korea to say to the north, look, we can respond in any method we choose. president moon on the phone to president trump had a 20-minute or so conversation, and he expressed his own grave concern that this situation could spiral out of control. but also saying we need to stop the situation where north korea can do this and where the united states might be tempted to have a preemptive strike.
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so his concerns are for not just pyongyang but also washington. president trump has been saying in a tweet that there will be sanctions and sanctions today, so all eyes will be on the u.n. security council where there will be an emergency meeting this afternoon. china, of course, already expressing grave concern and presidents trump and xi have already had a conversation, russia, too, expressing its concern. so all eyes this afternoon on new york. andrea? >> and on treasury, because we expect some sanctions from treasury today. what's alarming about this? is it the altitude? >> it is. we continue to see incremental changes in the distance that these intercontinental ballistic missiles can be launched. we need to kind of think of this, andrea, as sort of two streams of danger that are approaching. one is the lengthening range of these intercontinental ballistic
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missiles, and the other stream is miniaturizing and hardening a nuclear weapon. and so it's like in the movie "ghostb "ghostbusters," you really don't want those streams to cross and they're going to cross in the next 12 months or so. i think we're going to see another nuclear test before too long. we are going to have to make some very hard decisions in the time ahead. >> and, david, do we have any idea whether this missile actually had the lift to carry a warhead? >> it probably didn't have much of a warhead on it. they wanted range, and it could carry a nuclear weapon. whether that weapon could survive reentry and hit a target is a different issue, and hopefully north korea can't do that yet. it's working on it, and it's going to be very critical that we don't overreact to this episode. we know north korea is determined to get an icbm with a
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nuclear warhead. the united states should be very firm in working with our allies to ratchet up the sanctions. and the sanctions can't stop a launch. that's not the purpose of sanctions. but the sanctions, if they build properly with china's support certainly could change their behavior to the agreement of denuclearization that this administration is asking for. >> when we talk about reaction that might have to be taken, senator graham has talked about the possibility of military action becoming even more probable. but it's so catastrophic to even contemplate. are there any short-term steps? i also would ask you about the whole decision to put this back on tehe terror list. do you think that's what this launch is responding to? >> it's possible, but it's really an exploratory march on the part of kim to obtain the ability to both launch at distance and harden a nuclear
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weapon. he's not quite there yet. i want to register that i agree with david's point that the military options here are terrible. because of the catastrophic effects on the korean peninsula. so what can we do? i would say we ought to be looking at more cyber options. we could potentially look at working with russia and china over time on a maritime land blockade of korea to really enforce those sanctions. but we do not have a plan going forward, and we need to develop one. in the end, all roads to pyongyang tend to lead. we need to work with our allies and with china to try to resolve this diplomatically. >> admiral, thanks to you, bill neely, and bob albright. thank you all. coming up, the politics of
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radio over allegations of improper behavior. keeler told the associated press he was fired over, quote, a story that i think is more interesting and complicated than the version npr heard. they reacted to keeler's conduct while he was still in production over a companion. condemning president trump over sharing photos about muslims. britain said, british people overwhelmingly reject the prejudice rhetoric of the far right, which is the an hit sis of the values. congratulations on the book.
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>> thank you. >> first this message by teresa may. why is president trump so prominent in the u.k.? >> this is a jaw-dropping retweet by the president. every british person knows that extreme right fine srfinesss e of it. this goes to the core of what we conceive ourselves to be a country. i now live and work in new york, but first it just hits you in the solar plexus. >> at the same time, the main focus of your book is, of course frks t , the rescue of refugees. pope francis is there now. he's met with xi, and he's not
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using the word rohingya which is difficult publicly for the leadership there, but he is trying to, behind the scenes, we understand, and at his mosque today to call for reconciliation. 64,000 people at least. >> we've been in myanmar for 30 years, we're in bangladesh where, as you say, 60,000 refugees have been driven into the neighboring state. what we're hearing is unspeakable trauma. pregnant women in a terrible state coming across the border, malnourished children in the rakhine state well, which is where the most rohingya live. you have appalling conditions where our health care workers can't reach the people in need, and the pope has been a beacon of humanity over the refugee crisis. i think you're right to say what's going on behind the scenes with xi and the military,
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and although they're putting pressure on him, he has the ability to put pressure back on them. >> and hopefully he'll see the effects of this. >> more important from seeing, he will hear from the refugees themselves. one of the things the pope has taught everyone is you've got to humanize this challenge. it's being dehumanized by the numbers, it's being dehumanized by the fearmongers. the pope goes and hears their stories. he'll here appalling stories in myanmar of oppression, of people being driven from their homes and their villages set on fire. i think he'll also get a sobering picture of the chance of these refugees going back. once refugees have been driven from their homes, they're out for a long time. one of the messages in my book is we need to work at supporting them so they can be contributors in the country they arrive in. >> budget cuts that are very controversial are possible at the state department because
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conflicts are going to be resolved, they'll be successfully resolving conflicts. at a time when the syrian civil war, it seems, is really being overlooked, that russia has gained control of the aerospace, the iranians on the ground. the u.s. is supposedly losing support of kurdish on the ground at the behest of turkey. who cares about the refugees other than you and your group? >> optimism is a priceless quality in diplomacy, and the fact that the secretary of state thinks he'll need fewer diplomats because we'll solve all these wars, that's a happy scenario. i've seen american diplomacy and it's a key part of your armory. and i think it's very, very important that americans recognize that their commitment to international humanitarian aid is relatively small in this
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country. relatively 1.7% of national income. you can take it a long way because, a, it does reach the people who need it through ngos of our own. but i think the message that needs to cross is these are right. if we don't spread it out, it will spread to affect everyone. coming up, congressman john conyers. growing calls for his resignation. stay with us.
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pressure is mounting on john conyers, founding member of the congressional black caucus, from congress, not just the judicial committee. joining me is done yeah edwards and rick tyler, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. welcome both. just within this hour, steny hoyer, one of the democratic leaders, saying that if these charges are proved, he should resign from congress. donna, but the big if is, how long it takes to prove anything through the ethics committee, which is a secret process. >> identify said before that i don't think the ethics committee, as it currently stands, is really appropriate to handle this. i think at a minimum they could establish a separate investigative committee that has a time limit to report these allegations back. i served on the ethics committee
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and they do great work. this is not their area of expertise and we don't want this to drag out over years or the course of a congress. >> there was a request to release one of the complainants against conyers from the confidentiality agreement, which she was forced to sign. >> you know, the fact is that if the congressman waived his confidentiality it would free up the victimers and accusers, if they want to, to come forward. i would ask congressman conyers to way of his confidentiality that would allow them to come forward. frankly, i look at the allegations that have been made and i'm worked a lot with congressman conyers over the years. i really value what he's contributed to congress. but i think it's time for him to step down. >> and rick tyler, this, of course, takes a lot of pressure -- or does it take pressure off the republicans,
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the alabama issues that are facing them, with the election less than two weeks away? it sure does. i think we're processing this and looking at the degrees of abuse and the -- unfortunately, how commonplace it seems to be and how to deal with it and find the right language with it. what the country needs is someone with moral leadership and clarity to speak about these issues and put it in perspective. the president has utterly failed on that. he's particularly failed this morning with promoting conspiracy theories instead of trying to help the country gain a perspective on the issue. >> to have the president of the united states rebuked by the prime minister of the uk, who is actually in a muslim country, she's in iraq right now today, as we speak, i understand, is extraordinary. what about "the new york times" reporting also, rick, that the president is now -- to members. senate and other colleagues denying the "access hollywood" tape is real, which he
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acknowledged back in 2016 when it first came out? >> it's crazy. we were talking in the green room that donald trump reported he was the pr guy who was promoting himself to all the tabloid magazines in new york, that is how donald trump made a name for himself. but the idea he -- we've all seen the tape, we heard his voice, he acknowledged it, apologized for it and now all of a sudden saying it's not him is utterly ridiculous. i think every republican needs to begin now to look at where they're going to be with donald trump over the course of the next couple of years because this is a year and it seems to be getting worse and worse with lack of leadership, lack of vision, all of these distract n distractio distractions. nk income launched a missile perhaps reaching east coast of the united states with nuclear arm capability. we're processing all these other things and the president is not
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providing leadership on these things. he's talking distraction after distraction after distraction. we'll find ourselves in real trouble real fast and the republican party's got to decide, they need to be a party that stands for something or stand for nothing. >> to rick's point, i mean, the fact is the president also tweeted out about congressman conyers. he's also tweeted out, you know, these other allegations. and the reality is, the same allegations have been made against the president of the united states. we all heard the tape. my mother knows that that was donald trump on that "access hollywood" tape. and the president also has to be held to account as we've seen in the news industry and the hollywood industry and in congress, there has to be accountability -- >> donald trump knows it was donald trump on the tape, even though he says maybe it's not. >> we have to leave it there. thank you both so much. donna edwards, rick tyler. we'll be right back. e children's research hospital. shhhhh... sorry... at st. jude, no family ever pays for treatment,
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and that's it for us. craig melvin is here -- is up next, rather, in new york. >> good afternoon to you. good afternoon from msnbc headquarters here in new york. craig melvin. we start with the accusations against my colleague and friend, matt lauer. lauer is out at the "today" show, fired after a complaint of, quote, inappropriate sexual behavior. a statement from nbc news says this was the first complaint against lauer in the 20 years he's worked here. lauer has not rpo


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