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interview with the "new york times" and on trump, let my know on facebook.com/the beat with ariment i promise. that does it with our show. hardball with chris matthews starts now. >> matt lauer, terminated. let's play "hardball." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. matt lauer the long-time anchor of the "today" show and icon was fired by nbc news, it came after nbc received a detailed complaint by a colleague ability inappropriate sexual behavior in the work place.
well, matt lauer has not publicly commented on his firing. this morning his "today" show co-host savannah guthrie and hoda kotb reacted to the news. >> we are heart broken. i am heart broken for mat. he is my dear, dear friends and partner. she loved by many, many people here. i am heart broken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any of the women that have their own stories to tell and we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have faced these past few weeks. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation they have behaved badly and i don't know the answer to that. i do know this reckoning so many organizations have been going through is important. it's long overdue and it must result in work places where all women, all people feel safe and respected. >> i've known matt for 15 years.
i've loved him as a friend and a colleague and again just like you were saying savannah, it's hard to reconcile what we are hearing with the man who we know who walks in this building every single day. we were both woken up with the news kind of pre-dawn. we are trying to process it and make sense of it. it will take some time for that. >> this afternoon, "variety" published a story in which three unnamed women accused lauer of harassment. they talked to dozens of current and former staffers. according to his report for lauer, work and sex were intertwined, his behavior included exposing himself to a female employee in his office and inviting people to his hotel room while covering the olympics. nbc received two more complaints today related to lauer. quote, one came from a former employee who said he summoned to his office and had sex with her. she said she felt helpless
because she didn't want to lose her job. today nbc said in a statement, we can say unequivocally, prior to monday night, nbc management was never aware of complaints about matt lauer's conduct. here's nbc news' stephanie gosk with the latest. >> reporter: the allegation of ena proept sexual condu-- inappropriate sexual conduct was made monday night. less than 24 hours later, matt lauer was fired. in a statement, andy lack shared few specifics, but wrote -- while it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he's been at nbc news, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident. >> this is a sad morning here at "today" and nbc news. >> on the "today" show, lauer's co-anchors reacted to the news. >> at the moment, all we can say
is we are heart broken. he se loved by many, many people here. i'm heart broken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. >> i'm matt lauer at olympic park in sochi. >> reporter: it began at the 2014 olympic games in sochi and continued after, according to an nbc spokesperson t. lawyer for the accuser had this to say, in part, i am in awe be i the courage my client showed to be the first to raise a complaint and to do so without making any demands other than the company do the right thing. today "variety" laid out a pattern of alleged sexual misconduct, including exposing himself to an employee in his office and inviting people late at night to his hotel room covering the olympics him three unnamed women tell "variety" they were sexually harassed, their accounts, variety says, corroborated by friends or colleagues, they say several made complaints to executives at
nbc which were ignored. in september, lauer interviewed bill o'reilly who had just been fired from fox news over allegations of sexual misconduct. >> doesn't it seem safe to assume the people at fox news were given a piece of information or given some evidence that simply made it impossible for to you stay on at fox news? >> that's a false assumption. >> but you don't let your number one guy go. >> sure you do. >> unless you have information that you think makes him -- there that's not true. >> for nbc news the star anchor's departure is an enormous loss. lauer has been the face of the network during pivotal news events, influencing the world's most influential people. >> that's nbc news' stephanie govg. for more, i am joined by senior editor claire atkins. thank you for this story. it's what it is or something more here we should know about, the context, who knew about this, whatever? >> reporter: i think people always ask those questions about who knew what when? i think with these allegations, it's very difficult to know
what's going on, unless women come to mappingment and say do something about this. i think all companies are in these situations where there is a he said-she said. i believe nbc had a very long discussion with matt lauer yesterday to get to the bottom of it. he apparently is very remorseful. we've had no apology, no comment, no statement whatsoever from matt lauer today at all. so i guess take that for what it is. >> well, andy lack put out that statement this morning at 6:49 before i went on another interview program him i have to tell you, i got a clear indication reading andy lack's comment, it basically was saying that this act that they were describing that matt had performed or been involved with was enough in itself for dismissal. >> reporter: right. there is no details on what that act is, it's inappropriate
sexual behavior at the work place. so a lot of folks are left with the question of what exactly happened. i know "variety" laid out some ugly details this afternoon. as you said, we don't know what happened with this particular instance with this lady. >> thank you very much, we will continue to follow this story as news develops, of course, meanwhile, as congress continues to grapple with its own issues of sexual misconduct, prominent law maker john conditionieyers in new york. his attorney told nbc news he was still thinking through his options but has no plans to resign at this time. this comes from new allegations from a staffer that told the detroit newspaper that conyers made unwanted sexual advances. she described the incident to in this case news, let's watch. >> he came up this way, his
right hand went up my dress and my thighs and i'm there in front of an audience, this is an audience, an audience. >> what did he do? >> he whispered into my ear, something to the effect, i didn't know you had such great legs. >> conyers denies all allegations of his lawyer in a statement issued to the detroit news said that his client is quote confident, that he will be exonerated. he maintains he has not done anything wrong. a total of four women, however, have accused the congressman of inappropriate behavior as the house passed the bill training, they did that today when our leader took to the floor before that vote. >> brave women in every corner of the country in every industry are making their voices heard. as members of congress, we have a moral duty to show real effective leader scholarship to foster a climate of respect and
dignity in the work place with absolutely zero tolerance for harassment discrimination or abuse. anything less is unacceptable, my colleagues. >> for the latest, capitol hill correspondent casey hunt. i have the sense the leadership is playing catch-up baum. they were caught wrong footed to use a british expression. now they're trying to get it straight what they intend to do. >> reporter: i think that that's right, chris. especially for nancy pelosi who has come closer to the oval office than any woman who has ever been third in line to the presidency. i think the comments she made on sunday, where she referred to congress as an icon and said she wasn't sure who the accusers were, made a lot of women i have talked to on capitol hill feel deeply betrayed and feel as though a top female leader was out of step at the moment the country is facing. and clearly, this is not a
partisan problem. have you nancy pelosi and house speaker paul ryan speaking out today about sexual harassment. he and his wife, both former congressional staffers saying there is no place for sexual harassment in the congress. they will review the work place rules t. reality here is this is still a place where denials are more prevalent than people holding themselves or being held accountable in some of these instances, it is not a partisan problem, john condition yeacony is a democrat. roy moore, a republican, allegations are different. al franken, a democrat. many democrats i talked to as a president who denied multiple accusations of sexual misconduct against him. one of the leaders of the congressional black caucus today when asked, what was the difference between politician here and people in other businesses, entertainment media who are held accountable? mr. clyburn, jim clyburn, the number three in the white house
said who elected them? i said that is one of the things that everyone here is grappling with. this is a problem of behavior. as the problem of power and power difference, and really i think there is a realization setting in of the depth and breadth of the problem that the country is facing at a whole and they have to do something about it. there are a lot of questions of how and what happens next. but i think the tide is turning, chris. >> earlier today, members of the congressional black caucus, a group conyers helped found, held a previously-scheduled meeting. yesterday the head of the cbc said he wouldn't press conyers to resign. in a statement to the press he said, i agreed with his decision to step down at this time. i also told him i encourage and expect him to cooperate with the ethnics investigation. he said conyers would. i am joined by a new york democratic congressman and member gregory meeks. you were a prosecutor, sir, what
is the fair way to deal with it? >> i think the fair way to deal with it is first of all, mr. conyers maintained his innocence and he wants to go through the ethics process. so i think that he has to go through the ethics process the same way that we would and anyone would and that determination would be, so he has to macthat determination himself as to whether or not he wanted to openly agree to work with whatever that process is. or, you know, and i also believe that the women that are involved have to be able to participate in that process also. >> is he giving you pressure within the cbc? >> i think it is up to mr. conyers. mr. conyers and his family needs to make a determination of what to do. i said it earlier the reason i came on this show is a couple reason, number one i said earlier, i think he should step down as a ranking member. which is the right thing to do. then he has to make the other
decisions, himself. he has the right to do that, if anyone would, but i also came over because i think being a part of the united states congress, we got two prevalent issues that in america we got to have a conversation about. one of them definitely is sexism. no matter whether it's congress and the news media, sexism and racism. >> where does the racism come in here? >> it comes in, and i brought the report. i was concerned about being transparency, et cetera, with the office of compliance and as i looked at the office of compliance, which i think is something that would be transparent. i want to look at a section or two of claims of discrimination and/or harassment listed by protective kaenls. so i want to know what happened there. there was ten cases, race and color 31. these were adjudicated cases. >> people claim they were prejudiced by a member because of their race? >> a member or this is within the entire institution of capitol hill, it could be the
capital police. it could be some other parts, but sex and gender were 19 the two highest forms of claims of discrimination were, was race, 31 instances, and sex and gender 19 instances, which i think is reflective of a systemic problem in america that we have to address. >> you think mr. conyers has been criticized here or charged because of his race? >> no, i don't think race has haeng to do with it. >> i know historically the congressional black caucus has been protective of seniority and the black member dos have the possible opportunity to represent themselves in the country. >> i also understand miss guthrie when she talked about how close she was to matt lauer. for me, this is a difficult time. john conyers has made america a better place, when you look at it, there would not be a dr. king holiday, but i think what he did for rosa parks and
all of the issues, you who he's moved america forward. so this is a difficult day and what may or may not happen is difficult. it's difficult to even have this conversation. i do know sexism by anybody is wrong and cannot be tolerated. >> thank you for coming on. this is not an easy time. coming up, stunning reporting by the "new york times" and donald trump's embracive conspiracy theories. he is back to questioning again believe it or not barack obama's conspiracy theory and he says the voice on the ""access hollywood"" tape wasn't that of donald trump, isn't that something? plus we learned donald trump paid over a million bucks to settle a class action lawsuit brought by undocumented polish workers, people working here illegally who helped clear the way for trump tower. those workers were paid as little as $4 per hour or less
. >> mr. itco reports that president trump is considering ways to help boost the campaign of alabama senate candidate roy moore. while the president has no plans to visit alabama, quote, the white house is considering flooding the state with robo-calls, e-mails and tech messages in an offensive designed to activate the president's supporters on moore's behalf. the article goes on to say president trump has doubted the accounts of moore's female accusers and questioned why they're emerging just weeks before the election. we'll be right back. at's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is
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welcome back to "hardball" donald trump las a history of bending facts and falsehoods. when it comes to his on camera boasts and sexual assault. in repeat days, he he has continued to seed doubt about his appearance stung advisers. he shortly before told a senate republican he wanted to investigate the recording. we don't think it was my voice. ""access hollywood"" has stood by the authenticity of that now famous recording and during the campaign trump publicly admitted to saying those things. that's not the only signs the president is at odds with reality. in recent months, mr. trump used closed-door conversations to question the authenticity of president barack obama's birth certificate. this, of course, isn't the first time the president sped or initiated conspiracy theories without identify to back them up. from the birther movement to the
kennedy assassination, here are some of his most far fetched claims. >> i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down and i watched in jersey city, new jersey where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> do you accept president obama was born in the united states? >> i don't know. do you know that hillary clinton was a birther. the problem was with lee ar i have ozwald prior to oswald being shot t. whole thing is ridiculous, what is this prior to his being shot and nobody even brings it up. >> you mentioned president obama being the founder of isis what did you mean by that and hillary clinton --? exactly that, he's the founder of isis. >> you have to be a citizen to vote. >> you have places where people wall u walk in and vote. >> you look at people registered, dead, illegal in two states and some cases maybe
three states we have a lot to look into. >> we are joined by two msnbc political analyst, robert costa, robert, you are a trump watcher saying he was with lee harvey oswald, he was in jail before he was shot. that's after he shot kennedy. why don't you say he was with him? he said it twice. what does that mean? >> i don't understand it at all. it doesn't make sense historically. i have no other reporting on that i think this is indicative, a president who indulges at times in conspiracy. it was seen throughout his campaign and his presidency now, she using social media at time to feed his own assumptions about different events in policy and history. >> here's a real quickal situation maybe like the cuban miflg crisis. we have asking him to discern fantasy and rumor. he continues over and over again
to engage in belief that barack obama was born in kenya. so her son can be president by sneaking back over here the craziest thing that makes no intern am logic and of course everything else, heidi, how do we deal with a president who can't discern realities? >> with almost 20 years in this business, this has never happened to me before, i actually had republican contacting me because they're concerned about what's going on with the presidents. with the tweets about going back to birtherrism, about retweeting the alt right anti-muslim hate groups, denying that that is his own voice they are saying they are concerned that this is a compulsion that he can't break, on addiction almost, to not only telling lies but if you look at the way he talks and continues
to tweet these things, actually believing the lie, which is a separate category. >> you heard, now that you got this reporting out here, what do the people on those, closer to him tan we are. what do they make of it? do they worry he is unbalanced like in the cane mutiny doesn't have everything together? >> well, there is concerns from a policy perspective like you sa i with north korea. oh, let's just let them launch the missiles don't worry, we will deal with it we are handling it. they're in danger to our democracy. if you see the model in russia, how to erode a democracy is not by telling any one particular lie. it's the accumulation of lies that exhausts the public so that they give up on actually pressing for and demanding the facts and what is true. >> well, this morning president trump also retweeted a series of inflammatory anti-muslim videos posted by the far right nationalist britain first party. press secretary harrah huckaby
defends the president saying it was okay to repost those
tweets without verifying the content and claims they contain. let's watch him. . >> look again, whether it's a threat or real, the threat is ream. that's what the president is talking about i'm not talking act the nature, the threat is real. >> wear focusing on the wrong thing. robert again, what do you make of it when he picks up something on social media moved around by the right, by anne coulter, somebody in this case. he pushes it along. i know people that do this, but they're not the president. >> mrs. huckaby sanders likes to
say these instances of the president tweeting these inflammatory things is about a bigger picture. he's trying to make. let's remember that these statements he makes on twitter do have consequence and the prime minister's reaction is so telling because the angelo-american relationship remains one of the most central relationships in u.s. foreign policy yet today it had a stumble. they reacted in a negative way for importance alliance. >> it's like he doesn't care. huckaby sanders is a good spokesman for this president. it's filled with irony. it doesn't seal to be araonic to say the president doesn't care about the facts that he speaks or retweets. >> the point here is whether or not this is true. the purpose of this propaganda of this anti-muslim propaganda is to manufacture hate, to mislead and manufacture hate and if you look at the contents of those tweets, anyone who can
navigate the internet can immediately determine these were false. have you the dutch deposit also having put out tweets saying this young man, the one who was featured in one of the trump's retweets, is not even, was born in the netherlands and born and raised there. he was not a muslim migrant and anyone who wanted to double check that on the internet could have. >> yet amid all this that we are discussing, the republicans continue to plow forward on their tax cut proposal. it's revealing this is a party that in spite of the president's behavior, they believe he is useful to them as they pursue their agenda on capitol hill. >> he's the goose that keeps laying the golden eggs, the question is, the "times" further reports the adviser says the president continues to harbor a hand. of conspiracy theories that have no grounding, in fact, manufactured facts has been preektd enough that his own stamp is to nudge friendly lawmakers to ask questions of mr. trump at meetings that will steer him towards safer terrain.
heidi, here we have, this is the thing i don't know and both of you have as to respond. do the people around him know you can't trust him for facts or assume he is speaking metaphorically or symbolically he knows the facts of what he is saying are not important to him? >> it sounds like that was the whole purpose in bringing kelly around was to try to wall off some of the competing information that he was getting. so that at least they can try and control who was coming to him with information and make sure that he was surrounded by actual facts. but when he goes into that black hole of the internet and the twitter sphere, he is retweeting things from these conspiracy websites. >> i think for him to give the tweet by putting it out by himself, he does give it some veracity to people on his side politically. that's a horrible thing, because he is selling stuff he doesn't even believe in, himself. robert, last word. >> when you look at the president's responses to north korea and any military matters, he's getting the counsel of
secretary mattis and kelly. you see a limited amount of restraint. part of that i am told by my sources, they believe in politics and most of the tweets, it'sing a if the president goats in his own direction, on foreign policy, they wants him to take guidance, even today we saw that's not even the case. >> how can me make proper judgment if he can't have the facts in his head? >> he's a reactor. he is won sa that consums media information. his social media director. alerting him things that pop up on twitter. he likes to react. this is a core quality of the character. >> that's a lot of right wingers and left wingers to pass around nonsense that pleases them. it's not an objective effort to secure the truth. >> throughout his career, chris, we seen when it comes to his finances the state of his business, his celebrity. he has often created his own
realities arnold him as a way of forwarding his own ambitions. >> that missile that almost hit the japanese mainland was real. it's real, it went 3,000 miles in the air. it can travel long intercontinental distances. we better get some thinking into the white house somehow. maybe it has to be force fed by maddog mattis. up next, newly released court documents reveal president trump paid big money to settle a lawsuit brought by undocumented workers he hired back in the ''80s. it's a story about illegal immigration and exploitation of scared illegal workers and ultimately is big coverup by this president and this is hardball" where the action ist i can guide you in? no, thanks , santa, i got this. looks a little tight. perfect fit. santa needs an f-150. that's ford, america's best selling brand. hurry in today for 0% financing for 72 months across the full line of ford cars, trucks and suvs!
. i don't settle lawsuits, very rare. because once you settle lawsuits, everybody sues you. very simple. the lawyers learn you don't settle. they done sue. so i don't settle lawsuits. >> well cam back to "hardball" that was president trump talking about his rather litigious history. he paid over a million dollars in a labor settlement, in 1980 he employed 200 undocumented polish workers to demolish the power building on fifth avenue, where the 58 story golden huge trump tower know stands t. workers were paid as much as $4 an hour, less than half the
union wage if they got paid at all. the treatment led to years of litigation and 1998 document shows he paid a total of 1.3 million to settle the case. details remained sealed and were made public last week from response to a motion filed by "time" incorporated for freedom of the press. i am joined by the litigation director, an organization for which i am proud to say my daughter in law works proudly. let me ask you about this. what was it in this, how did you get the courts to finally bring out these documents to show president trump is a fraud. he exploits the hell out of them. these are window washers, makes them tear down the building, a dangerous job, without hard hats pays about $4 bucks an hour and gets away pre tending he is tough on illegal immigration. >>? >> these documents have been under seal since 1998. we have a rt roars committee
along with time saw the public interests and beginning to unseal those documents. nor one thing this is a president who campaigned on a platform of curbing illegal immigration and yet at the same time it was demonstrated by the cross action lawsuit, he was utilizing or contractors he had hired were utilizing undocumented polish labor to build trump tower. we thought that was information certainly in the public interest. i think it's important to note that this is a president who is as you say litigious. the usa today reported during the campaign that he as a party or has been a party over the past three decades, over 4,000 lawsuits. >> it's not in your -- to do it. he doesn't pay a bill. he makes somebody pay the bill. he sues them. how do you think won the case in court and get it out now? >> there is a first amendment,
right of access to court records, with i the court ruled that donald trump and the trump organization who opposed our motion to unseal, they hadn't demonstrated a reason to keep this unteal, it would overcome the right of access. i this i the court explicitly recognized the context here, this was a matter of public interest, a lawsuit that involves now the president of the united states, it was important for the public -- >> can he get his tax returns for us? try to bring them to the public? anything else? >> we are working on a number of unsealing matters. we are particularly interested in government under surveillance matter, particularly as they relate to computer source regulations. one of the things we're concerned about and journalists are concerned about is the use of warrantssh subpoenas and other types of electronic applications. >> suppose bob woodward were working today, shanding in the bakesment with deep throat, getting "inside information," how would the attorney general if he were partisan or she were
partson decide what was going on? >> there the a variety of other ways that don't involve warrants, for example the united states supreme court heard a case today, united states against carpenter that involves the use of warrantless self trucking. >> they can follow bob woodward's phone right into the basement? >> they could. mark felt would know the whole story. there wouldn't be a watergate expose. >> nixon may be president. thank you, katie townsend. we need to keep doing this exposing. up next, president trump goes to war with chuck and nancy. he spent the past 24 hours blasting democrats being weak on crime and immigration and staged a photo op scolding them for missing a meeting. i don't think he sat democrats left and right like that. that is a phony blowny setup. you are watching "hardball."
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chuck schumer and nancy pelosi did not show up for our meeting today. i'm not really that surprised. we have a lot of differences. they're weak on crime. they're weak on illegal immigration. they want the illegal folks to come pouring into our border. >> welcome back to "hardball," that was president trump scolding democrats for not attending and highlighting the staged chairs for schuk schumer and nancy pelosi. the democrats decided to not attend after president trump tweeted he was quote meeting with chuck and nancy today by keeping government opened and working t. problem is, they want illegal immigrants flooding into our country unchecked. are weak on crime and want to substantially raise taxes. i don't see a deal. chuck schumer called the meeting a photo op. >> with his tweet this morning,
president trump made sure that today's meeting was nothing but a photo op. these issues are far too serier for these kind of games. mr. president, it's time to stop tweeting and start leading. there are serious questions that must be answered and many things that must be done. >> the president later tweeted after the north korea missile launch, it's more important than ever to fund our government and military. democrats shouldn't hold troop funding hostage for amnesty and illegal immigration. i ran on stopping illegal immigration, they can't shut down to get tear demands. congress has to come up with a spending deal before deposit funding runs out on decemberleth, which is coming -- december 8th. which is coming soon. let's bring in our panel. annie, i don't know, this is embarrassing. this is just low-level
government. this chicken, the game of chicken. they play, who is going to shut down the government. who is going to get blamed? empty seats, i'm embarrassed for everybody here. nobody looks good the comments that chuck schumer reads and nancy written by staff, they're boring, boring, boring, nobody believes it's more than staff-written nothing. >> it's all show. it's time to stop tweeting and start leading is a little too cute. but what's happening here is both sides are trying to paint the other side as the obstructionist. the trump people are trying to say, we won, we played to our embassy, assuring them that not like last time chuck and nancy came over, trump is not going to give anything without getting anything in return. they're the ones that didn't show up for a presidential meeting. schumer and pelosi see they have leverage, republicans need their votes and are saying if trump starts the day saying no deal, why would we show up? so everyone thinks that i have the leverage here. >> i hate this stuff.
i don't really think trump is stupid enough to send auto those young people home to mexico under arm, having them all arrested, these kids that came here underaged, they speak american english. they feel they're american. the haul them off would be a travesty for him. so what itself the argument? i thought he gave in on the democrats month ago and said, okay, you won on daca. the kids are too attractive for me to make them into hostages. >> he gave in and he retracted his adjusted stansz. >> do you think he will do this, push this little wall? >> i'm not sure he will. we could see several reversals be every that expires in march. however, this is clearly another example of him trying to react, appease his base in different ways. trying to look like he is taking a hard lean against democrats. >> who is the joker came up with the empty seat idea? first of all, i don't think they ever sat, the democratic leaders
on his either right ore left of him. it's a phony bologna. >> i'm so glad you are showing that clip right now. >> he looks like a fool, sitting there in the middle. then this little guy this puppet down the end there and. >> ryan. >> speaker ryan, supposedly from an independent branch of government and mitch mcconnell down there. they look like imbesse sills. >> they should be sitting next to the president. there is the leader of the house the senate, the whole theory that. >> theater. >> it's absolutely ridiculous. here's why the president said what he said about illegals streaming over the border in that unbelievable tweet. >> by the way, they had a comprehensive be ill that passed. it was the republicans that refused to pass. they had it on the table and 12 republican centresle and they wouldn't bring it up.
it would have stopped illegal hiring. >> democrats on the hill have been saying for a while now they want to take care of the daca kids. >> daca doesn't want to stop illegal hiring. >> of course. >> democrats are talking about daca as the bug bill. it's a must-pass piece of legislation, so that's why the president said what he said in that tweet. but chuck and nancy are making it clear, oh, okay. you will send out that tweet before we come over? we're not coming over. in fact, we actually know that you can't pass this budget deal without us. think about that, chris. >> psychoco basketball here. annie, you got the job. the one chance he had to get out of here to go play golf at maralag go, he wants to do,
mar-a-lago. he di minshed them by the nicknames and say they're coming up here to do nothing, why would that come? >> i think it's the last chuck and nancy meeting, the last time they came over for chinese food at the white house. they left floating that they had got. >> put off the government shutdown? >> no, they got daca back without agreeing to the construction of a border wall. this freaked out trump base this freaked out republican, his aides had to go around assuring people that that was not the case. he had made no such agreement and walk it back like ken said. i think this was an over conversation for him to show like they're not going to play me again. >> pop quiz. which of the two parties is the governing party today? i have a problem. i think they don't have a governing party right now. i don't think either party is taking responsibility for keeping the government going. >> the republican party is fractured and fractured particularly in the house of representatives. that's why they need democratic
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>> you mean an opportunity? >> they think that this is opening up a conversation. >> i think it's a real question of how much control over reality he has. >> this week in addition to being embarrassed by that botch sting over "the washington post," james o'keefe's tax return showing $5 million last year. i talked to a number of conservative operatives today and they think that this is wasted money and they're sort of embarrassed by this type of activism and this would be money better spent. >> i think the stingers were stung. >> i interviewed hillary clinton for my podcast. it came out yesterday. if you read her book, you know she doesn't like president trump. i asked her about why she thought it was important for her to talk about race during the campaign and particularly about president trump and she said, he was kind of an equal opportunity bigot. he went after immigrants and foreigners and was sexist and homophobic and obviously islam phob phobic.
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trump watch wednesday november 29th, 2017. the great new york senator daniel patrick moynihan once famously decreed that we were entitled to our own opinions, not our own facts. it was one thing for the president to argue that his inaugural crowds were larger than anyone else, like his bizarre fixation on the side of his hands but when the president
turns to easily known facts versus easily dismissed claims that we have to worry about his ability to discern reality, the kind of reality he needs to grasp when dealing with north korea and its ballistic missiles. so here we go. what do we make of a person, forget he's president for the moment, who denies that it is he there on that camera being recorded? what does it mean when trump denies the undeniable that it's him on that "access hollywood" tape, the one for which billy bush was fired. do we take him as a liar, a lunatic as kim jong-un called him or simply a guy with a character problem. what do we discern when we hear that he's pushing the charge that president obama was born in kenya and ineligible to be president? what about claiming that ted cruz's father was in cahoots with lee harvey oswald or that he, donald trump, actually did win the popular vote? what is going on in trump's head when he says this stuff? is it a printout of his thinking process? is it evidence of his inability
to discern reality from what he would like it to be? if so we are in deep trouble. we are facing a nuclear threat from north korea with a commander-in-chief incapable of disciphering reality. that's "hardball." "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >> something is unleashed in him lately. i don't know what's causing him or how to describe it. >> new reporting on a president losing his grip on reality as he spreads conspiracy theories and racist propaganda. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real. >> tonight, senator chris murphy on the growing concerns over president trump as the north korean threat escalates. plus new reporting on the firing of "today" show anchor matt lauer or inappropriate sexual behavior. why roy moore is apparently rebounding in alabama and the desperate rush for the trump tax