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msnbc. yesterday evening our senior producer gave birth to her first child, a daughter. she went right from, in fact, the control room to the hospital the day before. eleanor dolan came just in time for the holidays. merry christmas. we are so proud of her mom. welcome to the world, baby eleanor. and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. craig melvin is up next. >> i just saw her yesterday. >> i know. >> i just saw her. i said cassie, you look great. >> cassie and dennis are parents. >> andrea, always good to see you. good afternoon to you as well. craig melvin here at msnbc headquarters in new york. is it enough? congressman farenthold announcing he won't run for re-election. but should he resign? now? also, sex and power, a cascade of new accusations of powerful men wheeielding their influence improperly pressure women for sexual favors.
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impacting hollywood, the beltway and beyond. also, pursuing putin. insider reporting shows president trump's eager embrace of russia's president has left him blind to the russian threat. we will get to those stories in just a moment, but we start with the white house. mounting its toughest campaign to date against iran. a campaign that could potentially undermine the iranian nuclear deal. last hour, as you saw, ambassador to the united nations nikki haley presented recovered military equipment that she says was manufactured by iran. she conducted the show in tell. she says it was provided to enemies of u.s. allies. this she says was in violation of unresolutions. also that there is a clear path going forward. >> where do we go from here? i think the president made the first start by decertifying the iran deal basically with congress so that congress can
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start looking at these other things that iran is doing. the nuclear deal, while so much of the international community invested in it, the president said there were problems and these are the problems that he was talking about, and this is the message that we have to get out. >> two reports now. peter a lexen der is at the white house. pentagon correspondent hans nicoles is also standing by. as we watch this in the newsroom, a number of folks said this reminded them of colin powell back at the united nations. what was the ultimate goal in this presentation? >> yes, craig, this was definitely a dramatic presentation, both with the words and the backdrop, the u.n. ambassador nikki haley effectively calling out the iranians, standing in front of what the u.s. says is a reconstructed iranian short-range missile, parts of which we saw there were fired by huti rebels in yemen landing in saudi arabia last month. nikki haley says it bears, in her words, iranian missile fingerprints. they're declassifying, the u.s.
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is declassifying this evidence in an effort really to prove that iran violated the u.n. rules. she fiercely denounced the iranians. she tried to frame this in a more sort of confrontational u.s. approach toward iran going forward. she warned the actions like those by iran will, in her words, lead to the next north korea. among the questions right now, will the u.s. try to punish iran for the new alleged violations? the timing here, craig, is significant. in october of course president trump announced a decision not to certify the iran nuclear deal. but congress didn't implement new sanctions. they had until tuesday to act. the next date, the next deadline to watch is january 13th. that's the date by which the president has to decide again whether he'll certify the iran deal or not, whether they believe that iran is in compliance with the nuclear deal. haley said that more needs to be done and that there's a lot more evidence still to be presented to the international community, craig. >> hans, let's talk about this
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evidence here. the ambassador cited. does any of this prove that iran has not been living up to its end of the nuclear bargain? >> depends what your burden of proof is. i think this is what this is going to come down to. that's why the trump administration is inviting in not only members of congress but any officials from the u.n. that want to take a look at this and take a look at the efld. let's review the evidence. this is either equipment fired into saudi arabia so collected by the saudis. that big missile that nikki haley is standing in front of, part of that missile's a reconstituted missile. part of it fired in july. the other part, just 40 days ago. i don't mean this glibly. but what they're saying is the evidence on this is pretty clear. namely, you have two stamps from iranian defense manufacturers inside that missile, both in the guidance system and in the propulsion system. they're saying certain design features are unique to iran. you saw those numbers behind nikki haley there. there are nine vowels on the oxidized tank there.
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they say from published pictures of iranian iran makes nine valv. you know, i think when you see a picture of a missile that's from north korea, from the u.s. side or the iranian side, their entire -- not armies but teams of intelligence analysts that pore over these documents. when they find material in the field, whether fully exploded or partly exploded, they try to match that up. they're open to having outside experts come in and subject this to scrutiny. they think they have evidence on four different kinds of material. clearly manufactured in iran. and they're willing to submit this and declassify it in quite a dramatic fashion. i got to say, craig, they brought a bunch of pentagon reporters out to this warehouse yesterday. it's a giant hangar. to take a look at this. they are trying to do it slightly different than powell did in the well of the united
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nations. at that point, powell said, take my word for it. the new word from this administration is come take a look for yourself, that's their goal. i think the policy implications will be clear. >> hans nichols, thank you very much for breaking us down at the paush pentagon, peter alexander, thank you, sir. now to latest member of congress to depart after allegations of sexual misconduct. house republican blake farenthold of texas says that he will remain in office. however, he says he will not stand for re-election. house speaker paul ryan said today that's the right move. >> look, i had a couple conversations with blake farenthold yesterday. i think he's making the right decision to retire. these are new stories that are very disconcerting, unacceptable behavior has been alleged in those stories and i think he's made the right decision that he's going to be leaving congress. >> msnbc's garrett haake is on capitol hill with this story. walk us through how we got here,
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sir, and what, if anything, is the congressman from texas saying about it now? >> sure, craig, for farenthold, this started in 2015 with a complaint against him about sexual harassment that went through the ethics process. farenthold settled it for more than $80,000. at the time it mostly went away. he spoke about this in a facebook video today, take a listen. >> you know, there's no special prosecutor on capitol hill, but the closest thing to a special prosecutor is the office of congressional ethics. that bipartisan panel conducted a month long investigation into the allegations against me several years ago. it came to the unanimous conclusion that there was a lack of evidence to support this very serious accusation. >> and are you going to resign? >> check my facebook page. >> the investigation against farenthold continues even to this day. in light of the sort of new attention being paid to these
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sorts of issues up here on capitol hill, it's remained in the discussion up here as new allegations reported in other news organizations but not confirmed by nbc, about the culture in his office and things that he would say and do to former staff, just kept adding up. essentially putting him in this untenable position. which also includes political pressure back home. there are now i think five other republicans preparing to run in a primary against him. all of this leading to a decision apparently today to completed term and then retire from congress. >> i want to flash a headline up here for our viewers and listeners as well. republican tim murphy of pennsylvania resigned after allegations surfaced that he had asked a woman with whom he allegedly had this affair to have an abortion. republican trent franks resigning last night after the ethics committee started this investigation into allegations that he asked staffers to be a surrogate, offered one woman
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allegedly millions of dollars to do it. they left. why not farenthold? >> it's a fair question and not one i'm in a great position to answer but i will say i think there's some differentiation between these cases that involved sex and a lot of money in the case of franks there, the second. also, he has not -- farenthold has not faced that kind of pressure from his own colleagues that we've seen in some of these other cases. you just haven't heard this chorus of republicans calling for him to step aside. i will say we're not done here. i mean this idea that he would step down at the end of his term is still months away. if this drip, drip, drip continues that could change. >> all right, garrett haake for us there on capitol hill, garrett, thanks to you. the other big story that we continue to follow here, president trump making some big promises about the tax bill that republicans plan to rush through before christmas, ignoring criticism that many in the
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middle class will be hurt, not help, to pay for windfall for the wealthiest among us and big business as well. richard blumenthal joins me now. senator, is there a giant tax cut for the middle class in this bill? >> there is no giant tax cut for the middle class. there are crumbs for the middle class. it's a classic bait and switch. some middle class families may see very minor tax cuts. but the big benefits and breaks and giveaways are to the wealthiest and the big corporations and, frankly, at the expense of our children and grandchildren, because they're going to be burdened with trillions of dollars in debt. it is utterly irresponsible. and there are also threats to social security and medicare because that's the way the republicans are choosing as well to pay for these huge benefits to the wealthiest and corporations. >> while i have the senior
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senator from connecticut, i with on remiss if we didn't talk about five years ago today, the shooting at sandy hook, 26 dead, 20 of them children, a day that moved then president obama to tears. >> they had their entire lives ahead of them. birthdays. graduations. weddings. kids of their own. among the fallen were also teach offers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. >> five years later, republicans have passed a concealed carry law in the house. democrats bump stock bill is stalled in the senate. a reminder, for folks who have forgotten some of these faces, here's a look at the children and the six teachers who died that cold rainy day. have we honored their memory,
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senator? >> craig, i looked at every one of those photos earlier today. and the images of that horrific afternoon at the firehouse and the days after when i came to know many of the families is still very real and immediate. and the simple answer to your question is that congress has failed. it has been complicit. i'm heart broken. but i'm also furious. because congress has shamefully failed to take meaningful action and shame on congress, those deaths on that day, those 20 beautiful children, six educators, the heroic appearance of president obama, this nation seemed on the verge of real action. and yet the vice-like grip of the gun lobby and the nra prevailed. but we still have an obligation
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to move forward and i'm hopeful that we will but with bipartisan legislation, just the beginning of hope, the cracks in the ice of partisan paralysis are beginning. and we should honor those 26 victims and the 90,000 every day, the 170,000 who have died since sandy whohook with real action. >> senator richard blumenthal, thanks for your time. meanwhile, we have some more breaking news happening right now there in washington. the fcc has just voted to overturn net neutrality. that vote happening literally just a few moments ago. a story we have been following here. why do we care about net neutrality? because this is a decision that is going to affect websites that we all have access to. and it is also going to be affecting how quickly we can access many of those websites. i want to bring in nbc's jo ling
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kent who has been following the story very closely. there's this misconception out there this is going to mean you're not going to be able to watch movies on netflix as quickly as perhaps you were a few years ago depending on where you live. that's not what it is at all, right? >> that's a part of it. we're talking about sweeping deregulation of internet service providers. the companies like comcast alongside verizon, charter and at&t, they will be able to operate in a way that is much less regulated. the counterargument to this repeal that so many protesters out there were hoping would get across to the fcc chair, is that the internet now a days is kind of like a utility. it's not necessarily just another product from a big company. so there certainly will be pushback. we saw a very partisan vote there today. there was, in fact, a security concern in the middle, in the moments leading up to the vote. the fcc chairman had to clear the room and they had to sweep
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it and there was bomb sniffing dogs. the vote then happened. but we expect a lot of debate after this. there are likely to be lawsuits. there's likely to be legislation. because now internet providers can provide a fast lane and a slow lane and that cost could trickle down to consumers. >> the vote was 3-2. close vote. down party lines of course. no surprise there. again, for folks watching and listening, what will this vote mean for them specifically? or do we know yet? >> yes, think it remains to be seen in terms of concrete terms. this will allow internet providers who provide your high-speed internet at home to be able to say you can access certain websites for a certain amount of money. they could end up charging you more for accessing more of the internet or certain websites. here's a really easy example for folks to understand. verizon is one of the big providers here. they own yahoo! and aol. under net neutrality which has just been repealed, they were not allowed to play favorites,
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to send you as an internet surfer to those websites. now they may be able to do that. >> they'll be able to speed up, slow down, block services. >> yes, and potentially a degree of censorship as well so activists out there who are against this repeal believe that this is the end of the internet in terms of freedom, but then those who voted for it say that this is actually going to increase competition between all of these different companies and allow them to invest more and providing more internet infrastructure to places in rural areas. so there's a lot of very nuanced debate here. but this affects every single person who has a smart phone, a laptop, a desk top, who's on the internet. >> this is something, one of those things that's going to affect all of us in some way, form or fashion. who is really pushing this? who is behind this? >> this was a proposal by the fcc chairman. he's an appointee by president trump. i actually asked him yesterday in an exclusive interview about whether or not president trump really cared about the appeal of net neutrality. he said he's been provided no
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guidance by the president on this. but he believes that this will -- this is part -- i mean, today, at the white house, you see a big announcement on deregulation. and so this definitely falls in step with president trump's political platform. but this is coming from chairman ajeep pi at the fcc. >> 23,000 comments about this decision. there were some concerns about precisely where those comments were coming from. >> it's a record number of comments on the fcc website. nothing has been as controversial as this has been. what we've heard from the new york state attorney general eric schneiderman, he's come forward and said 2 million of those comments were actually made from stolen identities. stolen e-mails. or potentially individuals or accounts operated out of russia. he called for an investigation. several senators also said let's delay the vote today. but then it didn't happen. and so it's an interesting twist to see that security issue pop up literally moments before the vote. >> all right, again, breaking news, the fcc has just repealed net neutrality. it was a 3-2 vote.
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lawsuits likely to ensue. jo, thank you for that. oscar-nominated actress selma hayek saying me too. the very personal details about why she says harvey weinstein was her monster for years and even threatened to kill her. also, reports out today that house speaker paul ryan is also considering calling it quits. we're going to take you to capitol hill for the latest on this developing story. and in the wake of republican's stunning defeat in alabama special election what have democrats learned heading into the 2018 midterms? former obama campaign manager jim masina will join me. keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicks, keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ] [ keyboard clacking ]
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live look there. this is the white house briefing room of course. sarah huckabee sanders scheduled to take some questions there.
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scheduled for 1:45 eastern. when it happens, we will of course take you there live. lots to talk about there at the briefing. democrats basks in the glow of their alabama victory. they're now looking at how to capitalize on that unlikely win. political reporting that dems are eyeing senate races in utah, nebraska and texas. governors races in south carolina, georgia, kansas and tennessee now. let's bring in jim messina, deputy white house chief of staff under president obama, also campaign manager for the president's 2012 campaign. jim currently head of the consulting firm the messina group. and matt welch, editor at large with reason magazine. jim messina, let me start with you, can the democrats capitalize on what happened there in alabama on tuesday or was this simply a victory over a deeply flawed republican candidate? >> well, it was the worst candidate of my lifetime.
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but look, as you know, alabama is the second most partisan state in the country. democrats hadn't won a senate seat there in 25 years. they hadn't won a statewide race there in over a decade. what you're seeing is democrats being able to compete in places that traditionally they've not been able to do. and, you know, i think what the dnc and the democrats in d.c. ought to do is, you know, stop talking and go down to alabama and learn the lessons. and so, you know, i do think this puts the senate in play, which three months ago, craig, you and i wouldn't have thought was true. and the house has been in play for a while. >> you think nevada's up for grabs, you think arizona's up for grabs? >> oh, absolutely. >> you think tennessee's up for grabs? >> i do. we have an unbelievably good candidate. the former governor. running in tennessee. no one thought he would. tennessee's much more democratic than alabama. and so you can't look at this and say we don't have opportunities. now, look, should we be favored in these places? no.
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th are they real uphill battles? absolutely. but incredible enthusiasm now. we cared more about the innewsism gap than the daily poll numbers. what you see in alabama is decreased republican turnout and massive turnout among the democratic base especially african-american women. and so that put some of these states like tennessee, like arizona, into play. >> matt, every day seems to be a different bad story for republicans today. and for a number of days now, it's been blake farenthold now in texas, of course alabama. practically any presidential poll that you look at now is president trump, sub.40. how does the republican party, how do they right this ship, when it seems every day their message is being undercut by some sort of scandal? >> they can't is the short answer right now. because they're still undergoing a civil war, which is much different than the civil war they had seven years ago with the rise of the tea party. rise of the tea party largely -- not totally but largely was sort of philosophical or ideological.
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people thought you've gone too far, we need to get back to fiscal conservativism. what is steve bannonism? what is roy moorism? what is trumpism? what are the particles of that? well, it's being a troll, right, it's being someone who's out there trying to deliberately outrage the sensibilities of the liberal media. pop lisism always fails, left or right, because it depends on kind of riling up the base against the perceived other. republicans have not sorted that out. and as you mentioned, poll numbers are disastrous. the generic republican versus democrat on the congressional ballot right now. democrats up 11 percentage points. that is a gigantic number. on all the special elections we have seen, the seven including alabama, the average move from where the presidential race was in 2016 to -- it's plus 16. so republicans in a really bad way because they themselves
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don't know how to solve that problem. >> you and josh parker wrote a fascinating piece today at the "post" about how president trump is blaming everyone but himself for alabama. quote, he fault it is his former chief strategist, steve bannon. he also groused about mcmcconnell. exit polls in alabama showed him at 48% approval. one adviser said trump on wednesday dismissed his poll results in alabama and nationwide by saying they were fake and instead talked about his accomplishments. does the president really believe that? >> it's hard to know. he remind it is his team on several occasions i won alabama handily, people in alabama love me. he second-guessed himself a little bit. he basically put the blame on roy moore and put the blame on steve bannon and mcconnell for what -- early in the race, aggressive moves to try to push moore out and he seemed to be
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reticent to take it on his own. i think people around him are pretty concerned about the 2018 landscape and how things are looking with the republican party, particularly looking at his poll ratings which are historically low. the president thinks with the tax cut, with the economy improving in his mind that he doesn't have that much to worry about and i guess time will tell if he's right or not. >> jim, a couple of hours ago, i think we may have gotten a glimpse into part of this strategy for democrats moving forward. mike.com reporting that the democratic senatorial campaign committee is now launching tv ads, digital ads as well, aimed at tying republican candidates still to roy moore. the ad's titled they did nothing. mike posted a still frame of the ad playing against nevada's dean haller specifically. how much damage has roy moore done to the republican brand and is that the kind of campaign that we're going to see for the next year, democrats still tying
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republicans to roy moore, even though he lost? >> look, absolutely. you look at the exit polls the other night, roy moore has driven away college educated voters from the republican party, especially college educated women voter, and those same voters are the people that are going to decide the arizona senate race, the nevada senate race. and i want tho agree with our "washington post" friend. the numbers, you talk about arizona and nevada, those are places he didn't win by tons. he's starting to become a real drag. he has a 32% approval rating. which is the lowest number since the nixon administration. so you combine those things, nominating these crazy candidates and then donald trump doing what he's doing and it's a real problem. i just completed six months of research with these voters in the midwest who voted for trump and obama. and the single biggest thing
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they're worried about is donald trump's tweets. because they want him to focus on the economy and instead every day he's having a fight with somebody. and that is starting to really scare these voters in a way that is historic and the generic number which is the single most predictive number of an election is a real problem for him. >> matt welch you mentioned steve bannon a few moments ago and "the times" has this story out today on bannon and the president apparently. talked to steve bannon by phone for least 15 minutes. on tuesday aides said. and seemed disinclined to cut the adviser from his circle. what can we take from that? and have we, and by we, i mean members of the establishment, media, whatever you want to call us, have we overstated steve bannon's importance? have we overstated his relevance? >> probably. i mean, just in general, any time there's kind of a freak of nature person, the likes of which you've never seen before
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who teamed up with the bad guys, you tend to go crazy with this, karl rove back in the day as well. donald trump is an outsider. he's an outsider to the republican party. he kind of took over the republican party. introduced elements to that party that historically they have rejected. for instance, he's super anti-free trade. that's new. that hasn't happened before nap is bannonism, right. so trump's access to support depends on connecting with people in a nontraditional way. steve bannon is a con duet to that, no matter how much donald trump might get mad at steve bannon right now for playing up roy moore, making him look bad and this kind of thing, that access to that type of pop u lisism is going to be something that bannon has more of an invite to then almost any mitch mcconnell that you can name so that relationship will last as long as trump is president. >> matt welch, thank you. jim messina, always good to have you, thanks for your time. new allegations, new allegations against russell simmons.
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nine women now accuse the music mogul of sexual misconduct or in some cases rape. also, how long will paul ryan remain speaker of the house? how long will he remain a congressman? multiple reports suggest he is considering a departure in 2019. we'll bring you the latest on that. again, we are waiting on the white house daily briefing set to start roughly 10, 15 minutes from now. hey! yeah!? i switched to geico and got more!
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could house republicans soon be looking for a new leader? reports in politico and the huffington post claim that paul ryan is contemplating retirement after the 2018 midterm elections. for more on this, senior writer at politico jake sherman joins me now. this is the piece, quote, paul ryan sees his wild washington journey coming to an end. that's the headline. there's been some pushback, some strong pushback from the speaker's office to this. a short while ago, this is what the republican from minnesota, excuse me, the republican from wisconsin had to say. >> thank you very much, everybody, appreciate it. >> not quitting any time soon. what are we to make of this? is the speaker eyeing the exits despite that denial? >> my colleagues rachel bait and
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tim abort erta have a piece in magazine about that, something long chatted about the in the republican conference and frankly people who want that job. a lot of people want to lead house republicans. ryan is the only person we know of in the house republican conference that can cobble together the 218 votes to become speaker. now, an important thing to keep in mind here is that republicans might find themselves either in the minority in 2018 or with a small majority that it would be tough for almost anybody to become speaker with a small majority after 2018 and if they're in the minority, very few speakers, save nancy pelosi, will go into the minority after being in the majority for so long. so ryan has been in congress since 1998. so he has had a wild ride i guess, a wild washington ride, and listen, there's an expiration date on the speakership. it's just kind of a fact that is
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in washington these days. people get sick of their leaders. they have to make tough decisions. they have to pass on popular things. liste listen, ryan's office says he's not going anywhere, but it's easy to surmise or guess his time is not long in washington. >> he has said before he has no desire to do one of those lawmakers who spends 20 years on the hill. as you know, one of the issues that paul ryan has talked about for the last, you know, so, 10, 15 years is entitlement reform. that has not happened. there does not appear to be much of an appetite for it to happen right now. so the speaker would leave before taking a bite out of that apple? >> few things. well, paul ryan has been here for 20 years. >> that's true. >> whether he says he's a lawmaker who doesn't want to be here for 20 years, at the end of the term will mark his 20th year in congress.
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the speaker is about to notch one of the most impressive feats whether you like the big or not, getting a tax overhaul bill through congress, because it's a herculean task and something ryan has built his career up to. and just today at his press conference, which i was at here in the capitol hill, ryan said he wants to do some type of entitlement reform, help people get out of poverty, rework some of the safety net programs he's long talked about. so he see these two years as -- with president donald trump at the white house as an opportunity. and, listen, at the end of the day, rachel and tim's piece went through this, he did have a rocky relationship with trump during the campaign. but at the end of the day, he's passing this tax reform bill, which has his fingerprints all over it. whether he wrote it or not. this is something he's talked about. these are the contours of the tax bill he's talked about for a long time. >> jake sherman there, on the
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hill with this developing story if you will on paul ryan, jake, thank you. allegations of sexual misconduct rocking the entertainment industry again today. we are hearing three names. entrepreneur russell simmons, talk show host tavis smiley and producer and documentarian morgan spurlock. joined by "the washington post's" emily heil joining me. anne, let me start with you, big names in entertainment, including serious allegations now against russell simmen, nine women, i believe, that's the number, but these allegations first reported in "the new york times" include allegations of rape. >> yes, in fact, three women have gone on the record to tell "the new york times" that they say that russell simmons raped them in the '80s and '90s. one was a def jam executive who worked with russell simmons. another was a singer who russell simmons repped her. another was a music journalist.
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and you'll remember last month simmons stepped down from his company, saying after jenny lemet, who his a screenwriter, said that he raped her. today he came out swinging against these latest allegations, saying in part that i vehemently deny all these allegations. these horrific accusations have shocked me to my core and all of my relations have been consensual. and that theme of consent is something you hear among many of these men who have been accused saying, well, i thought she was interested in me. and that's exactly what russell simmons is saying today. >> harvey weinstein has said the same thing. charlie rose. >> charlie rose, absolutely. >> said the same thing as well. with tavis smiley, you get the impression that tavis smiley also has the intention of digging in and really fighting these allegations. >> and he again also says that all his relationships were consensual. but what's happened there is pbs hired an outside firm to look into those allegations.
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whatever they've uncovered was enough for pbs to suspend the distribution of tavis smiley's show, but you do see mr. smiley fighting back, saying, look, i had relationships, but everybody was happy in that relationship at the time. >> morgan spurlock, for his part, appears to have come out of nowhere -- >> well, you wonder who was about to, you know, spill the beans on him, but he admits to being accused of rape after a drunken one-night stand in college, cheating on his two wives and all his girlfriends and settling a sexual harassment lawsuit. and then saying he wants to be part of the solution. >> it does make you wonder if he had not started to get those calls from reporters and this was his attempt to get in front of it. emily, you've written this week about sexual harassment, specifically in the restaurant business, the allegations against celebrity chef mario batali today, were adding
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allegations in entertainment and politics. as you look at the wide range of allegations against men since the harvey weinstein reports in october, as a journalist who's covered this, what stands out to you most? >> i think what's interesting is this is coming from all segments. from the media, from the entertainment world, from the sports world, in politics. i think each one of those industry sort of has different considerations. i think when you look at the men who have been accused in the media, i think there's such a quick jump to, you know, from companies to get rid of these guys because if the media wants to report on this, you know, this issue, which is becoming a huge defining issue of our moment right now, that their hands have to be clean. so i think there's sort of -- there are different standards at work, you know, for each of these men, for each of their, you know, the circumstances that they're in and for the companies that they work for. you know, people have all sorts of considerations around these
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guys, whether it's, you know, it's viewers, whether it's customers, you know, who's going to buy tickets to the movies, who's going to buy their, you know, whatever their product that they're selling so there's a lot of different considerations that go into that decision of how fast do we need to get rid of this guy, what are the standards that you're held to, but i think another thing that is so interesting with this, as we look at these women who are accusing these men, i think it's becoming clear, you know, just the very -- the wide range of ways in which men exert their control over women. when you look at these women who are alleging the stuff, it's like people say, you know, unless they're being physically intimidated, why didn't they just report it, why did they put up with it? why didn't they just walk away? i think we're seeing there's such a wide pallet of ways that men exert control.
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and whether it's, you know, a woman is afraid she won't get a good -- you know, she won't get a good shift on her job at walmart or whether she won't get her movie made, there's a lot of reasons that women have stayed quiet. >> emily, thank you, and anne thompson, thank you. reporters are gathered in the white house briefing room. they're set to hold that daily briefing just minutes from now. we'll take you there when it happens. vladimir putin praising president trump in a speech today, denying any improper contact with the trump campaign during the election. a report on how the dynamic between the the two leaders has left the russian threat unchecked and why president trump still doesn't believe they medaled. it's the phillips' lady!
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president trump has long made clear he wants to create a new relationship with russia but a new report from "the washington post" gets an inside look at trump's hesitation to accept u.s. intelligence reports that u.s. meddled in, russia meddled in the u.s. election in support of trump. greg miller worked on this story. he joins me now. greg, it's a fascinating read, walk us through it. >> sure so i mean, as you said, we all know that the president does not like to acknowledge the russian election interference was real. he calls it a hoax, fake news and so forth.
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what we try to do in this story is examine what the implications are. when the president says something's not real, it impedes the ability of other agencies whether it's the cia, the national security counsel, the state department, from doing what they need to do. this story really traces that but it also takes you really behind the scenes. inside the white house, inside trump's inner circle, with the real battles around the president with trying to get him to come to terms about this reality. >> how does the president's -- how do his words prevent these agencies from doing their jobs? >> well, i mean the issue is so sensitive and he is so hostile to it, for instance, that he has never convened a national security counsel meeting on the subject. so there is no presidential leadership on it. aides talk to us about what they called a 5 1/2 foot room,
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meaning you try to work through issues at lower levels in the administration but avoid when they're sensitive and they're regarding russia, a void going into the oval office with them because trump is likely to erupt or overrule. so it has it has real impact. >> you -- one of the most fascinating parts of the story for me at least is this recounting of a meeting in the oval office where the president has grown so impatient with the preparation meeting with an gel la merkel, he does what, craig? >> he gets up in the early stage of the briefing, trying to brief him, prepare him for his meeting with the german chancellor, he gets up, leaves, goes to the bathroom, leaves the door open and tells his aides to keep talking and the -- the way it was described to us, the aides are still sitting around the room with their jaws dropped. . >> how many folks did we talk to for the piece? >> more than 50. well over 50. this was -- this took months of reporting.
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we were trying to do an exhaustive, thorough job and really wanted to get it right. >> do you get a sense this is a situation that's going to change here in the near future, the president perhaps is going to become more open to the evidence that's been presented to him by 16, 17 agencies or do you get the sense that -- >> no. >> you're saying no? >> no. i think the indications are the opposite. his language last month in asia where he met briefly with vladimir putin came out of that meeting and said that putin, again, asserted there was no interference and he believes putin. in that moment he said he was believing the russian president over his own intelligence agencies. he tried to walk that back a little bit the next day, but that was -- i mean that was even farther away from acceptance than trump was when he took office nearly a year ago. >> all right. greg is miller, "washington post" a fascinating read.
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greg, thank you. >> thank you. president trump promising to put more money in your pockets. just in time for the holidays. >> we want to give you, the american people, a giant tax cut for christmas. and when i say giant, i mean giant. [ applause ] >> republicans in the house and senate reached a deal on their sweeping tax package. two republican sources familiar with the deal tell nbc news the bill would repeal obamacare's individual mandate, a key piece that requires everyone to buy insurance or pay a fine instead. i want to bring in nbc news medical correspondent dr. john torres. is this essentially the end of obamacare as we know it? what happens to it without the individual mandate? >> it's going to be virtually impossible for obamacare to continue without that mandate because that mandate requires healthy people to buy into the insurance pool. without that premiums will go
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up, co-pays will go up, more expensive for people have insurance. we met a gentleman named joe, middle-class, working, paramedic, he has a prosthetic, he's an am pewty. that lets him work. without that he wouldn't be able to. this will have a major impact on him. >> it's a lose/lose for me. increased premiums will hurt my family, it's going to hurt me, it's going to hurt our ability to keep our bills paid, lights on, food on the table. >> and if you look at his bills, the medical bills, not including his prosthetic they're 23% of his income. >> 23%? >> 23% of his income. a huge amount for him. that's not including his prosthetics. you can see as premiums go up and deductibles go up it's going to cause more issues for him? >> what about the medical deduction, one of the most hotly debated health issues in the bill. the senate wanted to keep that, the house wanted to kill it. it's in the compromise.
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who would that affect? >> the bill worry it's going to affect people that have health conditions. what we know if people don't have health insurance they will not get health care. that's the thing. the advances we made in prevention and chronic care will slip back before 2010 when people getlet them get to an advanced stage and end up in the emergency room with big impacts on their health. >> how much of a deduction. >> >> it depends. there's 8.8 million people that can get this deduction, 10% of income you need to hit in your medical bills. it's affecting the 8.8 million in america. most of these people are over the age of 65 and earn under $75,000 and this is hitting the people that don't need it to hit them the most. >> dr. john torres waith a deep dive into what this bill might mean. thank you, sir. the white house set to brief reporters any moment now. there in the briefing room.
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. and that is going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i'm craig melvin. thanks so much for spending the hour with me. my colleague and friend katy tur, picking things up. >> thank you very much. it is 11:00 am out west and 2:00
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p.m. in washington and we are expecting two events at the white house this hour. a briefing with sarah huckabee sanders. there she is. taking the podium right now. also, a debrief with the president about rolling back regulations. let's go to sarah huckabee sanders. >> ten days of taking office president trump issued 13771 instructing the office of management and budget to remove two government regulations for every new one created. washington scoffed but the administration acted and under a year we have unleashed the american economy, businesses and job creation. these efforts and the rest of the president's agenda have fueled economic growth including all-time highs in the stock market, a 17-year low in unemployment rolls, new highs in manufacturing and consumer confidence and much more. we're at the final stages of historic tax cuts and reforms to provide massive relief to
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middle-class families, lower tax rates on american businesses to make us more competitive and our tax code simpler and fairer for the first time in decades. we want to begin lowering the tax bills in americans' paychecks next year where americans who face economic headwinds will have the wind at their backs as they seek the american dream. with that we'll get started. i will take your questions. jonathan? >> on the taxes, what is the president's message to those americans including some in the middle class who will face increases under the bill is this. >> our focus since day one has been to push to make sure as many americans as possible get a tax break, particularly those in the middle class that's going to continue to be our focus as we continue in this process as i've said time and time again. >> the message to those who with will face an increase every analysis shows some people including middle-class americans will face an increase. >> overwhelmingly the

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