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whole community. >> fleeting thought, a hate crime? targeting jews? other line of pespeculation was rusty's work. investment portfolio gone horribly wrong. >> dealing with serious amounts of money. >> initial thought a professional hit by someone who had lost a lot of money. >> if so, somebody they knew well, maybe even a mourner sharing condolences with the widow? josh golob, old college roomie, wondered just that. >> i remember thinking the killer could be there. >> you had that thought? >> yeah. >> what made rusty a schedule
businessman was vast network of associates, made it more difficult for homicide dictates to single out one person with rage against rusty, he knew a lot of people. >> excellent networker, constantly expanding business and personal goals. >> detectives caught a break, some of the witnesses able to give the cops a description of the killer and his vehicle. >> a possible white male with a beard, 5'10", 5'11", in his dirties. >> rendered this portrait. two piercing eyes. witnesses remember those vividly. >> come forward and face justice. don't be a coward. >> who was the man in the sketch? >> coming up, the hunt begins with one giant clue, the getaway
rusty snyderman was gunned down outside of his son's preschool. with artist sketch and description of a minivan, police went to work to track down his killer. here again is dennis murphy. >> the shooter no more than a police artist rendering, no details filled in. but victim was different, 36-year-old rusty snyderman, loving father, husband, brother and son who had grown up outside of cleveland. >> in your happiest memory what is rusty doing? >> smiling, making you happy.
he was wonderful to be around. >> he was a good kid. really was. >> behind the wide grin and nice guy demeanor, a determined businessman. >> always had another idea bigger and better than the last one. >> had spent time in the corporate world but now he was itching to go the steve jobs route. rusty's wife andrea more than any understood. backed him focusing on start-up. >> they were partners in any way, shape or form. in life, business ventures. i think they both were able to treat each other in a way that made each other better. >> and their marriage had seemed solid to people who had known them. which is why the details that came out later surprised everyone. but for now, rusty's grief-stricken friends and families wablted answers,
seeming a long time in coming. >> no one had any idea what happened. >> for weeks police have been floundered, trying to untangle business relationships. suspicious he had been gunned down by professional hit man, looking for money trail. >> did it cost you investigative hours and time? >> thousands of investigative hours and time. >> as it turned out this crime wouldn't be solved following the money but following the shooter's minivan, a vehicle caught on the parking lot security cameras. weeks after rusty was shot, tracked to this rental agency and contacted man who rented it. identity would blow the investigation wide open. told them not only he was person who rented minivan but also andrea snyderman's boss.
worked for the guy. was he the guy in the sketch? did andrea's supervisor kill her husband? >> hemy newman, supervisor at general electrics energy division in georgia. in charge of multimillion dollar budget, thousands of employees, including hiring andrea in 2010. police asked newman to come down to the station for interview. turned into 5 1/2 hour integration. >> turning and twisting. >> appeared nervous. told interviewers he had been at work the day of the shooting. >> i was not there, i did not pull the trigger on the gun that shot schneiderman. >> the cops sweated him. >> don't raise your eyebrows, you were there when rusty got
shot. >> few hours in, looked like he had something to tell the police. >> you're this close to telling me. >> telling you what? >> what happened. >> then he shut down. even so detectives thought they had enough evidence linking him to the crime. arrested him and charged him with murder. then an amazing turn of events. after the denials he admitted he was shooter but not guilty because insane when he pulled the trigger. little more than a year after his arrest hemy newman's trial began. simple matter of greed he argued. had one prize in his sights. >> killed rusty schneiderman because he wanted his wife, his
money, his life. period. >> and according to the prosecutor, evidence would show that hemy knew exactly what he needed to do to accomplish that goal. far from being crazy prosecutor said, he tried to plan the perfect murder. five months after hiring rusty's wife, researching guns and gun shows on the internet and around halloween of 2010 he made the purchase. >> told me it was for protection, household protection. >> bought a 40 caliber hand gun and hollow point bullets from this man in a parking lot. >> he seemed like he didn't know much about guns but interested in learning. >> within days newman was at gun range blasting away for 40
minutes at man-shaped target. nine days longer put on disguise and cent into the schneiderman's back yard. practice run or aborted murder attempt? back on the computer searching for a local costume store, looking for another disguise. then the prosecutors asserted the final countdown to murder began. 2:30 november 17th newman rented a silver kia van. >> he was in a hurry, impatient. >> after 5:30 in the morning november 18th, security camera recorded the silver minivan and caught newman walking up the stairs. heading to office. logged on to computer and left cell phone on the desk.
was he trying to create an alibi? next he got back in his car, on the move. surveillance video picked up his trail driving into parking lot of the suburban atlanta school where rusty schneiderman was scheduled to pick up his son. coming up, seismic shift in the trial as widow takes the stand. >> he had deeper feelings for me than just friends. >> andrea schneiderman under scrutiny.
returning to our story, hemy neuman confessed to shooting rusty sneiderman, four times in daylight, but acting alone? >> sat feet from man who murdered their son. stolen away their peace. >> saw a man with no reaction to anything. thought to myself, how can that man sleep at night? >> he's just a little weakling of a man, a worm, a nothing. >> andrea, rusty's widow sat two rows ahead of rusty's parents. what andrea did and didn't know leading up to the crime would soon become a major focus of the trial. but now listening to prosecutor last moments, could hardly
contain her tears. described killer walking up to rusty. >> shoots him three times. as rusty falls in the parking lot that cold november morning, dying, defendant is not satisfied. he walked up and put that .40 caliber hollow point to rusty's neck and fires one more time. >> brazen, outrageous crime. >> brazen, shot 30 feet from children playing. >> running when heard the sound. >> came up to the victim. noticed he was bleeding out. >> i saw him gasping for air. wished had started cpr right there. just in so much shock. >> rusty had been best man at josh's wedding. radiologist said he found it hard to hear testimony about the
medical details of his friend as last moments. >> fourth and final shot through his neck to his spine spinal cord and paralyzed him and i think -- >> he was dead at that moment. >> one of the hardest things for me to see. >> after delivering the kill shot, witnesses testified that neuman calmly walked back to minivan and melted back into morning traffic. within hours back at desk observed juggling routine deals. what did he expect to happen next? prosecution explained how the murder had been plotted out. now wanted jury to understand why. rusty the last man standing between him and woman he loved, andrea. testified that the accused had become obsessed with her weeks after she started working for
him in april 2010, he had stalked her and family and finally gunned down her husband. unwelcome courtship began at ge about six months before the shooting. >> how much time would you spend with him on regular basis? >> meetings every other day, constant e-mail communications about work and projects, constant phone calls. spoke about work things constantly. >> hemy neuman quickly became a fixture in her life. >> extremely friendly individual, caring or pretending to be caring individual. >> but one night on business trip to lake tahoe she testified, hemy neuman stepped over the line. >> did the defendant ever express his feelings for you? >> yes. >> outside a restaurant before they had dinner together, he read her a poem. >> insinuation of the poem to me was that he had deeper feelings
for me than just friends. >> she says her boss confided in her he was unhappy in his marriage and thinking of moving out on his wife of 22 careers. but rusty sneiderman's wife said she made her position clear. >> none of the feelings were returned and made myself completely clear where i stood. hemy got the message andrea said for a while and when not being inappropriate she said he was a good friend. >> i admit to caring about hemy, he managed to get me to care about him. that's the point. very good at that, manipulating everyone around him to feel bad for him. >> with rusty launching a company from the ground up, andrea felt she had to hold down the steady paycheck. told the jury she walked the tightrope the best she could.
>> given the situation i was in and he was my boss, i handled them all with care and did the best i could to keep him at bay. >> did you ever report to anybody at ge? >> no. >> why not? >> i would have been fired. >> i didn't hear your response. >> i would have been fired. >> andrea had kept hemy's advances to herself for the good of the family she told the court. but prosecutor wondered this, police artist sketch bore a striking resemblance to her boss, why hadn't she demand police focus investigation on hemy? what was she hiding? coming up, pointed questions for the widow. >> did you wake up together in denver, in tahoe? >> no. >> was there affair? >> they were groping each other. >> did you see the parties kiss?
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and he had my whole life wrapped up. >> jurors had heard a harrowing tale from rusty sneiderman's widow of a monster of a boss obsessed with new hire andrea, stalking her and catastrophically ripping her life apart snuffing out her husband's. but now the prosecution was saying more complicated than it seemed and wife andrea was holding back important details of her story. prosecutor. >> there was watergate question, what did she know and when did she know it. >> we knew she was lying, told her and didn't affect her. knew what we had to do on the stand and did it. >> at times looked like andrea was on trial too. suggested andrea had been a willing partner not only in
relationship but the murder itself. hemy could not be insane the prosecutor said if he had been conspiring to kill rusty. >> think about it. be with me forever. would that be normal communication between your boss and you? >> victim's widow aggressively questioned by the prosecution about business trips with boss that looked like hotel rooms here and abroad. joined her in colorado. >> did you pick defendant up at airport? >> yes. >> take him back with you? >> yes. >> did you and defendant share a room? >> no. >> denied they spent the night together in colorado but workers at hotel remember a change of rooms. >> our records show that andrea sneiderman during her stay switched from room of two beds,
one person to one bed and two people. >> a month later something happened on a trip they took together to south carolina, something andrea felt she had to repent for. read aloud what she wrote hemy in e-mail. >> apology is heartfelt, doesn't make the ongoing pain go away i now have. >> what happened? >> holding each other's hands and that's it. may sound worse than it is. but to me that was a betrayal. >> so repenting in the e-mail at least from holding his hand? >> yep. >> but the work trips together continued, and emotionally charged e-mails intensified. hemy wrote her words like marry me, i love you and this. >> the betrayal and anger is not about what you -- we do, it's cop-out, how you felt, what you
wanted. how you felt when we looked at stars in tahoe, when we woke up friday morning in denver and you took my hand. did that happen? did you wake up together in tahoe? >> no. >> during this time hemy like moonstruck teenager was confiding. >> smiley face. >> testified that hemy shared with her all the messages. to her eyes not pushing hemy away at all. >> i saw that andrea wanted hemy and would lead him on, going out of town with him, holding hands with him and eventually from what i'm told from hemy, actually having sex with him. >> on the stand andrea was adamant that trip they took to
england was strictly business, even though itinerary included plans to see a play and hit a night club. >> we didn't do any of the things insinuated on that itinerary. >> but jurors heard evidence they did go dancing a month before rusty was killed. testified saw public displays of affection. >> spinning her around, groping. >> how many times did they kiss? >> about three times. >> see the female push the male away? >> no and one occasion she kissed him. >> andrea denied the account. >> did you kiss him or he kiss you? >> no. in this case talking about alleged affairs and somebody
else's husband being murdered, i think people tend to think they saw a lot of things. >> denied all innuendo, sharing rooms, said never had sex with hemy neuman, repeated when best friend confronted her about hemy after the funeral. >> admit or deny the affair? >> denied it. >> when she told you no, did you believe her? >> no but my heart wanted to believe her. >> did she make a commit about if she wasn't married? >> yes. maybe if she was not married she would have been interested, however she loved her husband and was not interested. >> that echoed something hemy had told his friend. >> what did he tell you about the london trip? >> that he and andrea got closer, had decided they were soul mates.
he also told me that andrea was adamant she would not leave her husband or two kids. >> andrea was interested in hemy but would never leave her husband. that's the message. defense promised to prove that inner turmoil these stirred up in hemy neuman was enough to push him over the edge, into the realm of legal insanity. coming up -- >> i've been kicked, slapped, whipped. those things you don't forget. >> haunting secrets from hemy's past. and a question. did celebrity voices drive him to kill? a strange tale gets even stranger when "murder in broad daylight" continues.
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andrea sneiderman and her boss hemy neuman seemed to a strong connection, whether or not it was romantic was not clear. as the trial continued digging into neuman's past, became a strange and significant factor in the case. >> whose boss kills someone else's husband? i don't care, affair or no affair. there was no affair. who kills someone else's husband? >> hemy neuman was a killer. that's what the prosecutor told the jury, what his alleged mistress told the jury. even hemy neuman said he did it as police detective testified. >> he admits to the shooting, correct? >> yes. >> but hemy neuman's defense
attorney says their client shouldn't go to prison because the 48-year-old engineer, outwardly so calm and rational had one more secret to confess. he had been tormented by demons since he was a boy. defense attorney bob rubin -- >> mr. neuman's problems really began years ago and they went undiagnosed over the course of his lifetime and, as a result, he got progressively worse. >> and the defense made a bold allegation to the jury that hemy's violent act against rusty was triggered by none other than rusty's wife andrea. >> she had planted the seed and stoked the fire and she knew that what she set out to do with somebody who was sick, that she had accomplished. >> his psyche was so fragile, the defense argued, that it hadn't taken much from andrea to send hemy over the edge, and if the defense could prove that he was not guilty by reason of insanity, that he didn't know right from wrong when he pulled the trigger, there was a chance he would escape prison, if not a hospital bed in a psychiatric
unit. first witness was his younger sister monique who painted a picture of hemy's painful childhood. >> monique, would you describe for the jury your household at 6:00 in the evening when your father was coming home? >> anxiety. >> monique explained that their father, a violent and alcoholic man, had beaten both children savagely. >> i've been kicked, i've been slapped, i've been whipped. and those things you don't forget. >> and monique said hemy took the worst of the beatings. >> my brother got up, went to get a bowl of ice cream, and before we knew it, the bowl of ice cream went flying, hemy was getting slapped and it just kept going and going and going. >> but it was a boarding school
that hemy had experienced his first delusion, this defense expert testified, a demon. >> he described the demon as much bigger than him. he said that when he felt and saw this demon, he felt anguish. deep pain. >> by the time andrea met him, he had a history of breakdowns and was teetering on the edge of having another one according to his defense. hemy's fascination became a -- began as a fantasy, something to help him escape his troubled life, but the workplace infatuation soon became something much darker. hemy's confidant said that it looked like andrea would wind him up, turn him hot and then cold. >> she treated him like a yo-yo. she would have him all the way at the top and say this is the greatest and we're soulmates and having a great time out of town
and then coming back in town and texting him and saying, we can only have a business relationship. we can no longer do this. >> defense expert dr. adriana flores says this i don't -- yo-yo affect strengthened the delusions that hemy was having and in this altered state he would listen to andrea complain about rusty, how the children were shying away from him. >> their conversation or communication was saturated with discussions of the children, saturated with andrea sneiderman's complaints about her relationship with her husband. >> hemy thought something needed to be done, said his defense, especially when the demon from his childhood returned. he described it in this jailhouse interview. >> when you say big, how big? >> not as high as the ceiling. >> okay. >> but almost. >> all right. so -- >> like towering over me. >> hemy said the delusion took a
surprising form. a demon appeared before him and he sounded like barry white. >> when he comes i think he's real. >> he also said he saw an angel who sounded like olivia newton-john. the angel's message, it was as out there as the vision itself. according to hemy neuman, the angel assigned him a deadly mission. andrea's children, the angel told him, were at risk from rusty sneiderman and it was hemy's duty to kill rusty to eliminate that threat. >> he thought he was doing the right thing because he thought he was saving those children from the same kind of trauma that he had. >> but the prosecution painted a different picture of hemy neuman. >> you say he's faking, running a number -- >> without question. he's probably the smartest person in that courtroom. >> the prosecutor told the jury that hemy had lied about his hallucinations to try and get away with murder and that the defense experts had fallen for it.
>> and if he lied to you about that delusion, then everything in your report is off the table, correct? you're wrong? >> that is correct. >> the prosecutor called a parade of witnesses to the stand. hemy's work colleagues who had seen him every day. >> did you ever see anything that made you question his mental stability? >> no, not at all. >> have you ever observed him when you thought he was hallucinating? >> no. >> according to the prosecution's own expert witness, it would have been impossible for hemy to have covered up such a serious mental illness. >> there is going to be some evidence somewhere of a marked impairment. >> nor would someone so unstable have been able to methodically plot out not only the crime but the covering of his tracks, as hemy did. >> this was just another project for him. he did it -- >> i've got a problem, i'm going to approach this like an engineer, how do i resolve the problem? >> he mathematically solved his problem.
>> during that jailhouse interview, hemy explained to the prosecution's psychiatrist -- >> i'm a great, great executioner. once a plan is in place, it's going to happen. >> but amid all of the expert witness testimony over several days debating hemy neuman's mental health, a hypothetical question posed by the prosecution caught the most attention. >> if there was evidence that this is, in fact, a plan by andrea and the defendant to get rid of rusty so they could be together, then everything he told you would be wrong and you would be wrong, wouldn't you? >> if i knew that they had corroborated together, yes, that would change my opinion. >> this was the first time in hemy neuman's trial that a direct reference was made to a potential plot between the shooter and the victim's widow. what did andrea sneiderman know and when? >> coming up -- >> we the jury -- >> -- jurors render their
>> andrea sneiderman is playing each and every one of us for a fool. >> investigators had doubts about the grieving widow as soon as they had their suspect. pushing hemy neuman during his integration to see if he would give her up as his accomplice. >> i think it's beyond you. i think it includes someone else. >> the idea that andrea wasn't just a passive bystander, but that she had been on it was a theory pushed hard by the prosecution and the defense. >> i was crying a lot and balling. >> an eyewitness testified that even after the body was taken away in a ambulance, she was weeping at the scene. but the wife, when she arrived, not so much. >> she didn't have a tear in her eye. i told the detectives that as well. >> andrea testified when she arrived at the scene that morning she had been told that he had been involved in an accident. not that he had been shot.
>> i didn't know what happened to rusty until i got to the emergency room. >> listen to what the father-in-law and friend told that andrea told them them before she got to the hospital. >> andrea called us and she called and said rusty had been shot. she was so so sorry. >> she immediately at the same time was screaming to me rusty had been shot. >> how had andrea known that fact, that rusty had been shot, if no one had told her yet. and perhaps most perplexing of all, within minutes of being told something happened to rusty, andrea had dialled and redialled her boss. but her husband, who she believed was in an accident. >> how many times did you call rusty. >> rusty? zero times. >> and demeanor issue. jurors heard a tape of andrea being told police had made
arrest. >> are you serious? >> did andrea know beforehand who the shooter was? according to a friend, andrea had confided in her that she thought hemy neuman resembled the police sketch. if she had any suspicion he was involved, why didn't she tell the police? >> she kept seeing his face in those sketches, is that correct? >> not the face. it was the eyes is what she said. >> those drawings were published certainly no more than two days after rusty was shot; is that correct? >> i guess. >> andrea hugged her best friend as she got off the stand. once the two women were in the hallway, out of the view of the cameras and the jurors, andrea reportedly threatened her. best friend's lawyer said he overheard the conversation.
>> andrea tells her, i understand why you did what you did, but now you're going to have to live with what i'm going to do. >> the trial judge banned andrea sneiderman from the courthouse for the remainder of the trial. what motive could andrea sneiderman possibly had for any of this? investigators learned she collected $2 million in life insurance after rusty's death, but would that really compensate her for rusty's lifetime earnings? was murder the only way out of a marriage that maybe wasn't as solid as friends thought. a close friend says andrea was a victim in that courtroom. >> she's gotten caught in the middle of this cross fire between hemy and the prosecutors, and it's really unfortunate. >> jeffrey moss, who first knew andrea as rusty's college girlfriend and watched them start a life together and family doesn't believe andrea had anything to do with the murder. >> goes against everything i know about andrea and her morals and behavior and personality. >> during closing arguments the focus was on andrea yet again.
had she manipulated the unstable hemy neuman into killing her husband as the defense contended? >> the gun in this case was in hemy's hand, but the trigger, i respectfully suggest, was pulled by andrea sneiderman. >> if he and andrea. >> or as the prosecution argued, was neuman trying to hide behind a fabricated mental illness to avoid answering for a murder plot that he concocted with his lover. >> which is more likely? imaginary things, i see dead peop telng me to kill people or was it the woman who stood to gain $2 million and he did too? he's not crazy. he's a coconspirator. >> on the third day of deliberations, the jury announced it had a verdict. andrea was not in the courtroom to hear it. >> we the jury find the defendant guilty beyond a
reasonable doubt, but mentally ill. >> the jury foreperson told "dateline" that they believed he was mentally ill, but nonetheless, should go to prison. >> we were all very passionate that we were not going to be comfortable with hemy neuman thinking he could actually walk. >> was there a discussion of where's andrea sneiderman, why are we not talking to her. >> for us it was still this is not about andrea sneiderman. if there was an affair, that is between andrea and hemy neuman. >> before imposing sentence, the judge heard from rusty's killer. hemy neuman's statement was brief. >> i am so so sorry. i am sorry from the deepest part of me, your honor. >> then it was over for the disgraced business executive. neuman was led away after the judge sentenced him to spend the
rest of his life in prison. and in a written statement issued after the verdict, andrea sneiderman said she was grateful to the jurors and felt justice had finally been done for rusty. but the prosecution wasn't finished. in 2012 andrea sneiderman was charged in the murder of her husband rusty. those charges were dropped then in august 2013 sneiderman faced new charges and was found guilty of perjury and hindering the apprehension of a killer. sentenced to five years, in 2014, snider was released from prison and completed her parole three years later. in 2015, a break for hemy neuman, or was it? the georgia supreme court threw out the original conviction. saying the trial court erred in admitting evidence protected by attorney/client privilege. but
in a 2016 trial, jury found him guilty once again and he was sentenced to life without parole, plus five years. that's all for this edition of "dateline extra," i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. a white christmas. 55 million americans are under a winter weather advisory this morning. so will santa leave behind a snowy christmas morning along with those gifts? we'll tell you who will wake up in a winter wonderland. delivery troubles. last-minute shopping means last-minute shipping. now the mad dash to get those gifts nestled under the tree just in time. plus, the pope delivers his holiday message of peace from st. peter's basilica. the president unnerves more than a few with incendiary words targeted toward immigrants. we get a check on old st. nick as he