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[ singing ] fake news. >> here. ♪ >> congratulations, mr. president. >> i am outraged. >> lordy, i hope there are tapes. >> this trump and russia thing is a made-up story. >> we're getting nothing done. >> violating my body. >> it was disgusting. he mashed his lips against my face. >> 2017 has been an unbelievable year. the most outrageous, the most surprising, and exhausting. the greatest number of "have you seen this" events we've ever seen.
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>> everybody makes lists this time of year. we're calling ours "the year's 10 most." >> welcome to "the 10 most." i'm brian williams. >> i'm nicolle wallace. >> i hoped she was going to jump in there. >> he kicked me. >> we have done this before. i should explain, we're on the 27th floor of 30 rockefeller plaza, in a kitchen ettekitchen. we don't like to brag, it's pretty nice. >> we chose it, though. >> we chose it to get away from the usual studio look, and boy, did we succeed. we've been at this before. our producers on this project said to us in their wisdom about a month ago, why don't you kids sit down and hash out what would be your list, brian, and your list, nicolle, for "the 10 most." there were a million subcategories because it's been a year, has it not? here are some highlights from
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our first sit-down. >> i feel like you copied my list. >> i have not seen your list. >> i'm going to put bruce springsteen's broadway show in here. >> you have no list discipline. snapchat? >> i mean, i just was trying to go edgy and young. i don't really know what it is. ♪ ♪ let's get to the list, starting with number 10. bob corker, republican, departing senator, from tennessee. >> from the great state of tennessee. >> the most important voice of course on foreign policy in congress, foreign relations chairman senator bob corker. >> bob corker is so interesting. he was rumored to be a candidate for donald trump's running mate.
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>> came to trump tower, we saw him in trump tower. >> came to trump tower, was an ally. lent his credibility as a figure with a good deal of respect on the world stage to trump's candidacy when he endorsed him during the general election. and he's had a very public breakup with donald trump. >> the president has not yet -- has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. >> so during a time these last few months when profiles in courage have been rare, even though i know you said on the air this year that he had the truth serum of not running for reelection, i think we would still list bob corker, as i always call him, a workhorse and not a show horse in the senate, as one of those profiles, perhaps. >> it's a shame the white house
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has become an adult day-care center. someone obviously missed their shift this morning. this was not the first time corker expressed grave concerns about the president's conduct. >> listen, i think that republican senators who have stood up to trump in some instances get too much credit. jeff flake is not on the list because he is fluent in anti-trumpism. but he never puts actions behind it. >> regret because of the coarseness of our leadership. >> people are starting to ask questions about the president's fundamental fitness. if that becomes a bigger thing, a bigger conversation, corker will have started it. >> it's obvious his political model and governing model is to divide. and he is not risen to the occasion. it's very evident to me. >> he's someone that said out loud what a lot of people in washington only say behind closed doors with a couple of cocktails, that donald trump appears to lack the stability and competence for the
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presidency, and he's held a hearing to question whether or not he should have all of the nuclear command at his disposal. >> can i exert a point of personal privilege and ask you as my friend and co-worker what 2017 has been like? you're a very visible communications director in the 43 white house. what's it been like for you? >> it's like a -- you know, an endless funeral. it's like going to the political wake of a party i served from the time i was 25 until the sort of calamity that was the mccain/palin campaign. this wave started in 2008 with the crowds that came out for sarah palin. >> great answer. number 9. the mayor of san juan, carmen cruz. >> let's move, people, move! >> born in puerto rico, a degree from boston university, and a
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masters in public policy from carnegie mellon. a very substantial person who, it turns out, was required, there is no way you can tell me our response to what happened in puerto rico was a response to what would happen to one of the lower 48. >> i totally agree with you. >> parts of buildings being blown off. debris strewn throughout the street. trees being toppled. and communications are starting to go down. >> hurricane maria, of course one of the strongest storms ever to hit puerto rico. a total death count still not known. >> right. >> i am begging. begging anyone that can hear us to save us from dying. >> she's that rare politician for whom that was hyperbole. people are still dying. >> if anybody out there is
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listening to us, we are dying. and you are killing us with the inefficiency and the bureaucracy. >> i mean, she was on my list from the first day we got this assignment. she is someone who i think will stay with me forever. and donald trump really messed with the wrong twitter combatant when he picked a fight with her. >> president trump's dramatic series of tweets critical of her and, quote, others in puerto rico, saying they want everything done for them. >> puerto rico did not get the response that the victims of the hurricanes that hit houston and florida got. full stop. >> no, that's true. >> they didn't. so what she did probably saved lives. but what she also did was stand up to someone who was in the moment bullying her. >> he patrtrolled her. he trolled the mayor of san juan. >> saying results of recovery efforts will speak much louder
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than complaints by san juan mayor. >> he can attack me all he wants. you know, bring it on. i'm here. >> reporter: mr. president, between 1 and 10, how would you grade the white house response? >> i would say it was a 10. >> the island's decimated infrastructure makes it virtually impossible for workers to get to many of the areas. >> a few weeks ago she was on with rachel maddow in this building and was wonderful. i think -- i don't know how she views her future in politics. i think a good many americans would have voted for her for just about anything at the height of this. >> it's been very difficult. but it's a lot more difficult for people that still don't have water or have to boil their water but they don't have anything to boil it with. >> she has an urgency about her and a decency about her and a competence about her. this president attacked her during her roughest time. >> she went to meet him when he visited puerto rico and had that
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ridiculous paper towel moment. when he did that, when he threw paper towel at her citizens, the islands had i think zero power, maybe 2 or 3%, i think 41% of the island had no safe drinking water. but she never broke faith. she never made it personal. she simply defended and stood up for her citizens. when we come back from a break, the list of our 10 most continues. it's been said our president loves generals. a few of them have gotten into trouble over the years. we'll talk about that when we continue.
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hour list of the 10 most comes to number 8. it's been said that one man more than others knows exactly where the mueller investigation is going to go because he lived it. would you like to tell our
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audience who that is? >> so mike flynn. >> lock her up, lock her up! >> that's right, lock her up. >> mike flynn is the most stunning, the -- well, not just indictment, but mike flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. >> former national security adviser. >> former national security adviser to the president of the united states. >> lock him up! >> the question we sort of lead with after this dramatic news of his guilty plea is, not just what does he know and what has he told mueller, because the answer is everything and whatever mueller wants, according to every prosecutor who's been involved in a case like this. >> the people who interacted with flynn, they know who they are. whether it was, take your pick, the vice president, kushner, sessions, trump. >> the question is, how high up did this go? >> this explodes the idea that
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no one in the white house knew and he misled everyone. >> not a single person who knew flynn from his military days thinks that flynn was the strategist of a pro-russia campaign, things that flynn would have on his own said, i'm just going to rip up russia sanctions. >> a few biographical notes. he rose to three stars in the u.s. army. a lot of people said something turned in mike flynn, this former army ranger, who had spent time if combat, a man who a lot of the retired generals who stick around in the military knew and spoke so highly of, had changed. >> donald trump! >> i think he saw donald trump as a blank slate. our friend chris christie believes one of the reasons he was fired from the trump presidential transition is because he was waving a red flag about mike flynn for weeks. >> i begged him to get rid of mike flynn. and so, you know, that was a bad
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hire. >> it's almost shakespearean. his son had become ensnared in the mueller investigation. you have a son, i have a son. i don't know any parent who wouldn't do just about anything for their son. so we don't know yet if this was a test for flynn, if his loyalty for trump was infinite but for the legal exposure of his son. that's one of the theories out there. >> it's impossible to overstate what a big deal this is, how important it is. and once again, today this moves closer to the oval office. and we see the unraveling of all the lies. >> we also don't know yet how cooperative he will be. mueller grants his reprieve on sentencing at the end of the process. so mike flynn works for mueller, he works for team america until mueller's done with him. >> number 7 is an athlete. colin kaepernick. >> we must confront systemic oppression as a doctor would a
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disease. you identify it, you call it out, you treat it, and you defeat it. >> he is famous in his own right because the story of colin kaepernick became intertwined with the story of donald trump. colin kaepernick and what he has stood for, or more appropriately knelt for, has attracted the attention and the criticism of donald trump. colin kaepernick, from your san francisco 49ers, took them to the super bowl, has not worked in the nfl for some time. but is now synonymous with taking a knee. >> and i think bringing it back to kaepernick is the right way to put this on the list, because there were a lot of players who -- i mean, by the time donald trump was attacking the nfl week after week after week, colin kaepernick wasn't playing for the 49ers anymore. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag,
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to say get that son of a [ bleep ] off the field right now, out, he's fired. he's fired! >> he had started something that the president saw as an opportunity for twisting the knife in some of our sort of cultural boo-boos. and one of those ouchies is around the issue they were trying to raise awareness for, and that was criminal justice reform, social injustice. and what kaepernick was doing almost epitomized peaceful protest and the right to do so. >> the message is we have a lot of issues in the country that we need to deal with. we have a lot of people that are oppressed, a lot of people that aren't treated equally, that aren't given equal opportunities. >> i think what makes the kaepernick story endure is that ultimately the nfl didn't ban the protests. they said they didn't like them. it was touch and go a little bit, but ultimately the nfl stood up to donald trump.
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>> we saw a number of things. we saw solve things that had to be called straight up stunts, when jerry jones came forward and took a knee with his players before the anthem. and then we saw it get hijacked as somehow anti-veterans. >> anti-military. >> antitroops fighting oversees. it was never about people fighting in uniform. >> you know who agrees? most people in uniform. i think in this vacuum, and i think it's safe to just assert that in the trump presidency there is a morality vacuum, a leadership vacuum in our national politics. there have been some athletes who have stepped in around issues. and this was around the most basic american idea of free speech, and filled the vacuum. we'll leave this here. when we come back, two men, both powerful figures. and that's about all they have in common.
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all of your time in republican politics and all your
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time working in the white house, how many people came up to you and said some version of "russia" or "russians" or "i would like to introduce you to joe russian" or "join me at the russian embassy." >> never. never, never, never, never. >> we talked about russians when we were last here in this beautiful space. we didn't talk about vladimir putin, number 6. >> american presidents come and go. but putin has outlasted them all. he's perfected the art of controlling every detail to achieve his own goals. all you really see when you look putin in the eye is exactly what he wants you to see. >> there is an inexplicable, so far, an irrational affinity and i think affection on donald trump's part for vladimir putin. >> in every utterance during the campaign, the president went out of his way to praise vladimir putin, to speak highly of him.
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>> he bragged about what a good, strong leader putin was when confronted by our colleagues joe scarborough and mika brzezinski. >> we get to hang out with terrific experts. you take a guy like malcolm nance, a 35-year veteran of counterterrorism, get him started on vladimir putin. >> he views the fsb and kgb officers as the new nobility of russia. they are the pinnacle of russian society. and he uses them on a daily basis. >> it used to be called kgb, now it's fsb. they all sound like savings and loans institutions, and they are decidedly not. >> they can both find you, though.
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>> he would argue he's a trained killer. >> at the end of the day, he messed with us. the only part of the story that doesn't satisfy most americans is that trump isn't mad about it. there was incredible reporting in "the washington post" about how the obama administration knew about the russia meddling and didn't do anything, somebody described it as "we choked." the putin story could have end of the on election day if donald trump said, i won fair and square, but i'm not make sure that putin stays out of our democracy. >> i am puzzled by why our president isn't getting our defenses up so that we don't get hacked in another election. we've got all of congress coming up just next year. and then two years after that we've got another presidential. i don't feel prepared, i don't feel like we've been warned. our number 5 selection on our 10 most list is john mccain.
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>> i love my life. i've loved every minute of it. the disappointments, ups, downs, wins, losses. but no one has had the wonderful life that i've had. no one that i have ever known. >> he's an american icon. he too got caught up and criticized in the sweep of donald trump. he was a prisoner of war. so not for the first time in his life is he in the fight of his life right now, john mccain. >> he's become an extraordinary spokesperson and a valiant warrior now against cancer. [ applause ] >> i stand here today looking a little worse for wear, i'm sure. i have a refreshed appreciation for the protocols and customs of this body and for the other 99 privileged souls who have been elected to this senate. >> john mccain's place in history was secure, even before
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this year. but this year, you could argue, has been really extraordinary. one, in the fight against cancer, and two, in that thumbs down vote against repealing health care. but there was a lot of drama leading up to that. >> it's expected to be a very long night in the u.s. senate, where republicans are in a marathon session leading up to an expected vote. >> there's going to be a vote-a-ram ma on a gazillion amendments to the republican plan. >> in that moment we carried live on television, it was a harrowing moment when he came out of the cloak room. everyone saw something different. i saw a man with his outstretched arm put his thumb down. but just in his outstretched arm i saw the scope of history of john mccain, both of his arms were so grievously injured, he's never been able to comb his own hair. >> right.
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>> you can't raise them above shoulder height. everything he was about was put into that moment. a vote he could not cast despite feverish lobbying efforts. >> looking back, it was so john mccain. if you're looking for a republican senator who has never strayed from his set of principles, that's john mccain. >> stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio, television, and the internet. to hell with them. [ applause ] they don't want anything done for the public good. our incapacity is their livelihood. >> they won't always be in line with what democrats like and believe to be the right policies. but john mccain has never stopped putting the country ahead of politics. he sort of represents the best idea of what the senate was supposed to be. >> i believe in americans.
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we're capable of better. i've seen it. we're hopeful, compassionate people. and we still have leaders who will uphold the values that made america great and a beacon to the oppressed. >> he's got some of the best friendships i've ever seen. he's got lifelong friends in lindsey graham and joe lieberman, they were the three amigos. >> together again, the band. >> the band is back. >> the e street band, the f street, i don't know what it is. >> another good friend of his is joe biden. he was on "the view" recently when he tried to comfort meghan mccain. joe biden's son beau had the same type of cancer. >> there's hope. if anybody can make it, your dad -- her dad is one of my best friends. [ applause ] her dad goes after me hammer and tongs. we're like two brothers who were somehow raised by different fathers or something.
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>> what do you want to be remembered for? >> he served his country. that's what i would like to see. he served his country, hopefully with the word "honorably" on it. that's all. we'll be back in a moment. and when we do, the news media start to work their way into our list. old and new.
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when we first sat here, one of our more boisterous conversations was about what -- >> you attacked me about -- >> you were not under attack.
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>> -- buying toothpaste on amazon. >> you have amazon. and is that amazon prime or are we talking three to five days? >> amazon is a multi -- it's an on multiple levels that i put amazon. >> big customer here. >> so i live above a drugstore and i order toothpaste and deodorant from amazon. >> tragic. they might as well call that carbon footprint toothpaste. amazon does get us to the owner of amazon, jeff bezos, who is also now the owner of "the washington post." great news for the journalicist at "the washington post," i think they would agree, because they're a well-financed news organization. this brings us to number 4 on the list. >> the reporters. joining us is michael schmidt who broke the story tonight. >> with me is david ignatius, editor for "the washington post." >> my colleague, carol lee. >> covering this administration
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has sparked an entire industry. >> it's also created some of our best tv friends. >> ashley parker, white house reporter for "the washington post." >> "morning times" political reporter nick confessore. >> these people are family for us, because we rely not just on their scoops, which come at a space that's dizzying. but they've also become our storytellers of this presidency. >> kasie hunt, thanks. ken dilanian, now to you. >> they manage to cover this white house, to maintain all the access that they have. >> carol, you're the lead by-line on this story, so i'm going to start with you. >> not to take anything away from our investigative unit, which breaks stories all the time. but to cover such a disruptive period in politics, whether it was a democrat or a republican, it takes a village. so what we get to do is showcase all the journalism. >> nbc news has learned that special counsel robert mueller
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has enough evidence to bring charges in his investigation of former national security adviser michael flynn and his son. >> as we're having this conversation, i'm remembering, on my broadcast we had julia ainsley of nbc news talking about her exclusive, peter baker of "the new york times" and robert costa of "the washington post." >> republicans are enthused at this late moment because president is in the corner of roy moore, trying to rev up his base in that state. the stakes are enormous and at this point it's a jump ball. >> more often than not that resembles our first segment. we throw out stuff that we can't handle in our hour. there's so much news now, this network is all about covering it. >> they're competitive, i'm sure. but there's camaraderie to covering not just donald trump and the unconventional ways that he has turned the presidency on its head, but covering this
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moment. you just think of all of the people sort of bringing us these stories day after day after day. it's an embarrassment of riches. >> we also sit here knowing that this christmas season, meryl streep and tom hanks. >> i've heard of them. >> in this movie called "the post." >> 7,000 pages detailing how the white house has been lying about the vietnam war for 30 years. >> the first thing i'm going to do on my first day off of christmas break. have you seen it? >> no, i have not. >> and it goes to this point about what we're living through. and the idea that the media was a check, at these pivotal points in our history, is an important inflection point. the parallels can't be ignored. >> under constant fire, these institutions like "the times" and "the post," like nbc news and msnbc, have to make it through the other end. >> exactly.
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and the publishing of the pentagon papers is often overlooked when people talk about watergate. and there have been a lot of movies made, deservedly, about the great journalism of carl bernstein and bob woodward. but this one, i can't wait to see this. >> number 3, the twitter feed of the president of the united states. >> it comes after president trump unleashed a highly charged allegation on twitter accusing the former president of spearheading a nixon watergate style plot. >> there's always statements from the president available. >> declarations of war, declarations of peace, and then from donald trump, barack obama tapped my wires. it's pretty audacious. i think this will be controversial, because even in the press, there is a group of thought, a school of thought, that we should ignore them. i come down on the other side. it's on his twitter feed that we see the sharpest edge, the fighter that they all describe.
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and everyone's been talking about the from daytime to "late night with seth meyers." >> maybe president trump thinks he's working hard because twitter went from 120 characters to 280. "my workload has doubled." >> sent from the president's twitter account saturday, "i had to fire general flynn because he lied to the vice president and the fbi." >> despite the constant negative press covfefe. that was it. >> why would kim jong un insult me by calling me old when i never call him short and fat. >> it's hard to believe the people he has gone after on twitter and as the phrase goes, the whole world is watching. and it's hard to believe the time of day, the frequency, the day of a terrorist attack, he is likely to attack the media, on the country already under attack.
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>> it's not nitpicking. getting these things right goes back to where you started. they're official statements from not just donald trump the man, but the office of the american presidency. >> they are. >> and to the degree that it is our job to mark dramatic shifts to institutions, the office of the presidency has been dramatically altered by donald trump. when we come back, the placement on our list of an issue americans have been talking about nonstop, in the last several weeks and months, the tail end of 2017. also the items that did not make this year's list.
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he's opening up a lead in this thing, 100% is in, jones is not getting any more votes. meanwhile, go to the population centers, take a look at mobile, there's a lot more votes. >> listening to steve kornacki
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talking about this race is like listening to eli gold call a crimson tide football game. >> steve kornacki, howell raines says you're calling this just right. >> i want to bring the audience in on the treat of what was our first discussion of what wasn't going to make the list. none of us have donald trump because it's a given. we are doing this broadcast and compiling this list in the era and in the presidency of trump. neither of us have mr. bannon. i don't know if i agree with that. >> trump and bannon, i would give them last year if we had done this last year. we were busy. but i would give them 2016. i would put jared kushner on that list too. i would put -- you know, the trump campaign and sort of what they pulled off on the 2016 list.
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>> melania trump is on your list. >> she's stoic. in 2017, she's been perfect. >> george papadopoulos who i guess was an unpaid policy adviser to the trump campaign. >> he actually pleaded guilty in a secret court hearing on october 5th. it looks like the government, in his case they've only charged him with one count of lying to the fbi. >> papadopoulos. >> just because he was such a nobody and now we all know his name and can spell it. >> well, it's fun to say. papadopoulos should be on every list because it's just a mouth party. it's just fun. >> george papadopoulos had no formal role in the campaign. he was a low level volunteer. >> you're a greek american. so there's some element of pride, i'm guessing, that we're saying papadopoulos. >> president trump ignored shouted questions today but called his former adviser,
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papadopoulos, a low level volunteer and a proven liar. >> i brought some things not on the list, either cultural or news markers of this year. >> okay. >> ken burns' series on vietnam will go down as having been a product of 2017. >> okay. >> dounkirk, which i thought wa extraordinarily powerful. spicy and the mooch. fidget spinners. houston in terms of floods and world series victory. the total eclipse. >> there's the corona! >> love the eclipse. >> we were all out there looking through odd devices. >> i think i have permanent damage. >> unbelievable! >> what las vegas endured. what mexico city endured. what charlottesville endured. o.j. simpson is out of jail. you have some favorites. >> here is my big little lies i thought deserved an honorable mention on the list. a new category. >> this is happening now. >> see, they didn't know we were going to do this, we're going
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rogue right now. honorable mentions. big little lies. by putting so many successful actresses in one body of work, by putting rape and sexual assault at the center of the story line, really elevated the topic. >> all of which brings us to number 2 on our 10 most. something we are calling, after some deliberation, "the reckoning." the wave of sexual harassment, assault, accusations, and dismissals certainly in more than one industry. >> i have been silent for 20 years. i've been salulut shamed. i've been harassed. i've been maligned. and you know what, i'm just like you. >> mr. moore attacked me when i was just a child.
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he did nothing to deserve this sexual taattack. >> i think the best thing about companies and institutions purging any man who is harassing women from its ranks, a lot of people probably believe that's long overdue. that moment for so many women who have felt voiceless has come way too late. but come it has, and it's a wave that's swept through this company. >> good morning. breaking news overnight. matt lauer has been terminated from nbc news. >> as i'm sure you can imagine, we're devastated and are still processing all of this. >> savannah guthrie sort of articulating what we all feel, that complicated feeling of not knowing all the sides of a person and feeling heartbroken, and feeling so proud of the brave women who come forward and tell their stories. >> before 2017 was born, in its formative dna, this was coming.
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this was baked into who donald trump was, the man 63 million people voted for was the man on the "access hollywood" tape. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> 2017 was born of a women's march that exploded. from the streets in this city, other cities around the country, other countries around the world. that was the formative dna. >> the revolution starts here. >> the loava that then formed into rock and gave us something to build 2017 on. harvey weinstein is related to that. >> it's all related. and listen, harvey weinstein denies the allegations, but, you know, in so many of these things on our list, they're connected. you go back to the newspaper and the journalism that's taken place this year, just the
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journalism, in the first stories about harvey weinstein and the journalism in "the washington post" about roy moore's accusers. >> "the washington post" sought me out. i didn't go looking for this. this fell in my lap. >> roy moore denies the allegations and furthermore says he doesn't know you. >> i wonder how many maes he says he doesn't know. >> the wave of men swept up is one phenomenon but the journalism that's chronicled it is another. in the view of many women, certainly women who have been victimized by men in the workplace, probably a moment long overdue, but undeniably one sweeping every industry, sweeping hours, sweeping through corporate america, through technology, getting tripped up a little bit in republican politic. >> elective office. >> right, there's donald trump. but even the trump accusers
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getting a lot more attention than they did during the campaign. >> all of a sudden, he's all over me, kissing and groping and groping and kissing. >> i think to his that to his g surprise and great dismay, he might have thought that to coin a phrase this matter where he was concerned was put to bed. >> i think that he thinks that -- and he has sent his press secretary out to say this, that the victory cleansed him of all transgression, and that is the message. while people knew it and they won anyway. >> the president has addressed these accusations directly, and denied all of these allegations. >> no one who has been accused of sexual harassment in the workplace was spared when it came to their company's decision about how to handle it. it is something different to see donald trump and his allies try to distinguish his conduct from
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the others. it is no distinction. >> when we come back, our number one selection on our list of the ten most.
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this is probably a good time for me to admit that favorite part normally of the emmys and the oscars has nothing to do with to a awards they hand out, but as a news person, i always look at those who have departed and left us this past year as the sign posts of what the year was all about, and little bit of who we are, because they take a little bit of us with them. with that in mind -- >> you make me feel shallow, because i look at the dresses. >> and just to remind everybody of some names and face, and what a year for departures this has been.
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mary tyler moore, glenn campbell, greg almond, judge wapner, roger moore, jim neighborers, david cassidy, harry dean stanton, robert osborne, bill paxton, robert gee own, della reece, adam west, hugh hefner, fats domino and chuck berry and tom petty, dick gregory, sam sheppard, and two giants of comedy jerry lewis and don rick kls. that was a huge part of 2017, and think what they, what they take with them and what they gave us in life. and now the time has come for number one. >> you ready? >> robert mueller. we did not disagree. quite the opposite from the first conservation that we had about our number one selection -- >> nobody more important in
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american politics than bob mueller. >> this is the mueller story that i hope that we focus on. there is a picture of the st. paul's hockey team. did not know what st. pauls was growing up, and i think it is called america's hogwarts, and i mean it only many in the nicest way. there is a picture of the st. paul's hockey team, and there is mueller and kerry on the hockey team together. >> i didn't know that. >> and so mueller grows one enough money and awareness to go to a place like st. paul's which most american kids have e never heard of and then at princeton, and at a time when all of the guys his age are trying to get out of vietnam, he joins the marines infantry and becomes a captain and wounded by the north vietnamese and comes home to uva law school. >> as i reflect upon my career, i could say that i never would have anticipate where i ended up. >> we have talked about him on
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television together many time, and we always come back to the themes of his life, that he is someone who has always chosen public service. he is if you were to go into the laboratory and create the perfect nemesis for donald trump, and someone immune to twitter and someone who does not care about his own press, and someone who is not at all distracted, and he is not distractible. he is the opposite of donald trump in almost h every way. >> what the prosecutors should be looking at are hillary clinton's 33,000 deleted e-mails. >> he defines discipline and focus in a way that makes him, as you end 2017 and head into 2018, he is the looming threat the over donald trump's presidency. >> and the commitment to the rule of law, and to the safety and security of the scitizens w serve.
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>> think about this. since the first discussion that we had, his power has only increased, and we have not seen him eat in a restaurant. we have not seen him drive a car. and we have not really heard his voice. yet, his power, more than undiminished has increased, and people in the center politically in this country, and people certainly center-left view him without question -- nothing dramatic about it -- but as the most important person in our democracy right now. >> and we'd be remiss to leave out the fact that he is under vicious assault night after night after night on another network. >> special counsel and former fbi director robert mueller must be fired immediately. >> they assail the integrity and the character of bob mueller and his team, and so, i think that if they knew how ineffective it was with a man like bob muellerer they may not do it,
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but they are doing for it the audience of one, and the audience in the oval office, and it is the kind of thing that bob mueller is likely to brush off, but it is a sort of thing that makes him even more riveting as the year ends. >> it is a formidable list. i would defend it. i think that it will h hold, and how do we end this? >> i think that the list was t ant -- was about difficult choices, and about too much, the velocity of the year and the events. >> al teternative facts. >> no, russia did not help me. >> yeah, that's him. >> mr. rosenstein, your testimony today is that you believe that bob mooul ser a person of high integrity, is that right? >> yes. >> are you going to investigate president trump. >> i think that bob mueller is number one, because he has indicted or plead out for former national security advisers and
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he is heading into 2018 with the fate of the presidency in his hands. >> and just been told that we have had cameras on us while we have had this conversation the whole time. thank you very much for joining us. >> good night. thank you for joining us this hour, and nice to have you here. we have a special report tonight on a story that we have been workingn for a long time. going for a year and half, we have been digging into the russian attempt and not just toer interfere in the last election, but to interfere for the benefit of russia's chosen candidate that. candidate of course is now the president, and his administration has been dogged since before day one by questions of whether his campaign was involved in the russian intelligence operation that the tried to influence our election. two members of the president's campaign, including the former national security adviser have

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