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see you tomorrow on "a.m. joy." "the 11th hour" starts now. breaking tonight, former trump campaign aide rick gates pleads guilty and flips as a new indictment comes down for paul indictment comes down for paul manafort. we've got the latest reporting on the mueller front. plus, breaking from the "washington post." rod rosenstein's call to the white house two weeks ago about issues with jared kushner's security clearance. the report coming just hours after the president says he'll let john kelly decide whether kushner gets final approval. all that plus highlights from a classic trump performance today before conservatives. "the 11th hour" begins right now. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. i'm kasie hunt in for brian williams who has the day off.
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it is day 400 of the trump administration that brings new legal trump for two former trump campaign aides. "the washington post" reports tonight the deputy attorney general warned the white house weeks ago about problems with jared kushner's security clearance. we're going to have more on that just ahead. but we begin with the mueller investigation. special counsel robert mueller has obtained another guilty plea. this one from former trump deputy campaign chairman rick gates who stayed on during the transition. today gates pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the united states as well as to lying to investigators. and he admitted to secret foreign lobbying, potentially illegal mortgage schemes and helping paul manafort cheat on his taxes. mueller also got gates to plead guilty to lying to investigators
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after he was indicted. gates is now cooperating with the special counsel. this is not good for his former business partner and one-time trump campaign chief paul manafort who was hit with brand new charges today just hours after gates pleaded guilty. mueller is accusing manafort of lying to investigators on two specific occasions. november of 2016 after the election and february of last year after trump's inauguration. mueller is also bringing new charges related to manafort's lobbying work for pro-russian ukraiian political figures. gates and manafort were indicted together in october in washington, d.c. on charges related to their lucrative lobbying work. and this week faced a new indictment containing additional charges of tax and bank fraud. tonight the white house says it has no comment on the latest charges involving both men. during the 2016 election, they were both seen as integral to winning the white house. >> come on up, rick. we have a group of people that really wants to win and i think knows how to win. >> the fact is just over there in trump tower today, the core
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four, trump, gates, myself and manafort, we have met and they have done a phenomenal job building up this campaign over the last five or six months. so i look forward to continue to work with both of them. >> we'll bring in the first panel on another busy friday night. ken delanian and national security reporter, jennifer rogers, former assistant attorney for the southern district of new york, now the executive director for the public advancement of integrity, and frank loozy, who in the past has worked for robert mueller. he is also an nbc national security analyst. there is so much to talk about with all of you tonight. ken, i want to start with you because you have been doing kind of the nitty grit fi day-to-day, your e-mails have begun guiding me through the afternoon and evening preparing us for the show tonight. can you walk us through what we
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learned tonight, what we should be paying the closest attention to? >> well, kasie, we have learned that a man who is essentially paul manafort's right-hand aide for years has now turned against him and is prepared, it seems, to go to court to testify that they together participated in some very serious crimes. and in order to get that deal, or rather rick gates has agreed to plead guilty to charges that could land him in some prison time, but could also result in probation if he offers substantial cooperation. so this is putting enormous pressure on paul manafort, up until now you had a strong case against paul manafort, but it was a paper case. it was mainly documents accusing him of failing to register as a foreign lobbyist, accusing him of bank fraud and tax fraud. now you have this very compelling witness who can say that he was there every step of the way with mr. manafort as
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they committed those crimes together. and that is putting enormous pressure on manafort to plead guilty, which seems to be what robert mueller wants, because at the end of the day, this is not really about bank fraud and tax fraud. this is about whether the trump campaign colluded with russia. and it seems like robert mueller believes that paul manafort has information relevant to that question and wants to get that testimony. kasie? >> to that point, you have worked with robert mueller and seen him operate under high stakes, high pressure. what can rick gates offer to him and if, in fact, he wants to potentially get away without serving any prison time, what is he giving mueller in exchange for that? >> yeah, so look, bob mueller is extremely focused, mission-oriented and won't give up until he gets the truth out. and the gates plays a role in that, but you've mentioned something significant here, which is gates is going to have to substantially cooperate and give up everything he knows in order to avoid prison.
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i'm not sure he's going to avoid prison. these charges, the latest charges are extremely significant. he's going to have to talk about russians, ukrainians and the campaign. he takes us beyond the campaign, he remained with the trump white house. so he's got insight or knowledge
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most worried about? can you sleep tonight at all? >> i'm worried about everything, but i tell you the lawyer is sleeping better than the client. but certainly gates knows a ton about manafort. they are involved in all the criminal behavior for years and years and years. so he really knows everything about what manafort is doing. and manafort's facing down the prospect of his very close former colleague and partner in
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crime getting on a witness stand and testifying against him. so this is a very, very bad development for him, obviously, puts a lot of pressure on him. so, you know, for me, if you're manafort, i don't know if you're still holding out for the hope of a pardon. maybe that's kind of your saving grace here, because otherwise, i don't really see a path out for him that is anything other than jail time. >> ken dilanian, one of the more interesting pieces to this is one of charges gates is facing has to do with lying to mueller's team in the last month as they were negotiating this plea. and he lied, apparently, about a meeting with a pro-russian congressman is how it's described, who nbc news has reported as dana robacher. what do we know about that meeting, why is it potentially significant and why would gates lie about it? >> that's a great question, kasie. the office has told us that according to the charging documents, gates lied about it because it was essentially about ukrainian lobbying, which he wasn't supposed to be doing because they hadn't registered. but it's just absolutely unheard of and bizarre to be lying while you're in a proffer. he was there negotiating with a plea. and you're allowed to admit to crimes under those circumstances. the only thing you can't do is lie. but apparently he did that and opened himself up to further charges. and it really seems like, there was some back and forth in recent days about whether gates was going to plea. there were stories about maybe he was firing his lawyer.
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and it seemed like it was a close call. at the end of the day, this may have been one of the things to push him over the edge, because this was a clear-cut case. they had him dead to rights on the lie and now he's pleading. i want to go back to how frank says this seems like something out of a mafia movie, "the sopranos." robert mueller is approaching this like he's prosecuting the gambino crime family. he did prosecute the gambino crime family back in the '90s. he approved the prosecution of the hitman, and the man turned on john gawdy. so robert mueller knows how to flip people. and we have seen that again today. >> frank, tell me more about that, what is it like to be in a room with bob mueller when he's putting these kind of screws to somebody? >> so, look, he gives direction well to his senior staff. he surrounds himself with people who have the skillsets to do that. and he's created that dream team in the special counsel's office right now. but what he does is, he is relentless in drilling down on the facts.
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he is data-driven and data-analytics driven. so if you're going to try to smoke him, if you're going to try to weasel around him as a defendant, there's no way you're going to escape his command of the facts. and that's ultimately what wins the day. >> jennifer, what has rick gates agreed to give up here? what does he have to do for bob mueller? >> so he has to meet with them whenever they want. he has to tell them the truth about anything. he has to not commit more crimes and he has to testify, whenever they call him and wherever they call him. so certainly in the manafort trial, if it goes in any other related trial, so oftentimes you'll have someone plea as a coop ray or the and their sentencing is delayed because they want full cooperation to happen before the sentencing. so the cooperator can be pending for a long time to make sure they get in all the things the prosecutors want to use them for. >> we obviously don't know if
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the president has considered pardoning either of these men, paul manafort or rick gates, but you raised kind of an interesting question, is there a scenario where if the president is in trouble, pardoning rick gates potentially helps him? >> well, it might. i mean, if he pardons gates, gates then is under no pressure to cooperate anymore. that takes the pressure off of manafort in theory. i mean, presumably the president would also pardon manafort to take care of his case, too. but it could, in theory, take care of those things. and to the extent that manafort and gates are kind of the nexus between the president's campaign and russians, i mean, they were so involved with these pro-russian/ukrainians, basically russians, that i would think that if that collusion was actually happening, that manafort and maybe gates, too, would have known about it. so if he can kind of take those guys out of the picture by
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pardoning them, you know, in his mind, he might think that that kind of puts him in the clear. >> ken dilanian, let's pull the lens out a little bit and just talk about in the last week, it's been quite a blockbuster week for mr. mueller and his team. what does that tell you about where they are in this investigation and what might happen next? >> just before i get to that, one thing on the pardons, the new york attorney general is investigating paul manafort. so that would be -- that is not a case that donald trump can pardon if state charges are brought. but absolutely, kasie, the momentum is picking up in this investigation and it's very clear. and that indictment of 13 russians that laid out how the russians, at least in part, how the russians meddled in the election and laid out a grand conspiracy, that essentially
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laid the foundation for charging americans if evidence develops in the future. that really put a lot of cards on the table. and now we're seeing this series of guilty pleas. we're up to four cooperators. mueller is picking up the pace, it is very clear here, and i wouldn't be surprised to see other charges drop in the next few months. i mean, we still haven't heard what happened with the hacking. there are russians who hacked and violated american law. those people potentially could be charged. and they may have had help from americans. so i think we'll see a lot of action in the next few months on this, kasie. >> we'll be watching all of it. ken, jennifer, frank, thank you all very much. coming up, president trump says he'll leave the issue of jared kushner's security clearance up to john kelly. but tonight there's new reporting on why it's been held up. and later, from his story of the snake to the grooming of his bald spots, the president veered off script at cpac this morning. all that and more as "the 11 hour" gets underway on a friday night. e's gone noseblind. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics... ...there's febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn't just mask, it eliminates odors you've... ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric.
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your chief of staff general kelly recommended ending the practice of interim security clearances to members of the trump administration. if that proceeds, would you be willing to grant a waiver to jared kushner, one of your senior advisers? >> well, jared has done an outstanding job and has been treated highly unfairly. he's a quality person. he works for nothing, just so nobody reports that, but he gets zero. he doesn't get a salary. so that is up to general kelly. general kelly respects jared a lot and i will let the general who is right here make that call. >> that was president trump this afternoon saying he would let john kelly decide if jared kushner should be allowed to keep his interim security clearance. kelly ordered an overhaul of the white house security clearance process after the rob porter
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scandal, including eliminating interim clearances that have been pending since june 1st of last year. the new guidelines were slated to take effect today. all this as "the washington post" reports tonight that the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein alerted the white house two weeks ago that significant information requiring additional investigation would further delay the security clearance process of senior adviser jared kushner. according to three people familiar with the discussion, the post also reports, quote, the justice department officials said rosenstein did not provide any details to the white house about the matters that need to be investigated related to kushner. with me to talk about this is ken thomas, white house reporter for the associated press, my former colleague, and frank figliuzzi is back with us. frank, thank you for sticking with us. i'm going to start with you because you have an understanding of behind the scenes of how the processes
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unfold. can you just kind of explain why, how unusual is it for a clearance to take this long? >> despite some white house assertions to the contrary, this is unusual. it is way too long and there are issues. when the attorney general picks up the phone and calls the white house and tells you there are issues, it's going to take longer. then isn't because jared kushner's neighbor said he plays his music too loudly, this is likely because of foreign financial entanglements they can't figure out. and why is it that it's rod rosenstein calling the white house and not the attorney general? the attorney general is recused from the russian matter. so it's a decent theory to think maybe some of the issues with jared kushner are because of the russian inquiry and what they developed there. so look, you typically have an interim top secret clearance for
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about 90 days. we're way beyond that. and the other thing is, we're hearing that kushner has access to compartmented code word classified information within the top secret category. this is something that should not be happening at this level for this long. >> ken, to this point, "the washington post" also reported that in the call rosenstein didn't say whether the information that had come to the attention of the justice department was learned by the fbi as part of the standard background clearance investigation or they point out that rosenstein also oversees the investigation by special counsel robert mueller who has scrutinized kushner's contacts with foreign officials. what is your reporting telling you right now about the content of the call? what sticks out to you in this
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"post" report? >> well, it raises questions of exactly what has tripped these concerns. whether it's mueller-related, whether it could be some other financial entanglements or something, you know, more bureaucratic related to his forums. but i think you have to look at the singular role that jared kushner has played in this administration. he's not only someone who is dealing with middle east peace or mexico, he's also dealing with infrastructure and opioids. and he's just someone who has so much access to top information as the year of the president, and it just raised questions on whether there's a double standard, whether nepotism is being played here. and if he were someone else, would he be treated the same way? >> well, ken, the president could essentially unilaterally decide to grant this, which is why what he said today about john kelly is noteworthy. what is the behind the scenes tension between jared kushner and that melania trump could be
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siding with john kelly in all this. what is going on? >> it was interesting, at the white house news conference today, the president spoke about ivanka trump and how he could send no better person over to south korea to represent the country in the olympics. in that audience was rex tillerson, the secretary of state. so you have heard of tensions between the secretary of state and jared kushner and ivanka trump over some of their roles on the international scene. you've also -- we've heard of tensions between john kelly and jared kushner because of this wide-ranging role that kushner plays that could be seen by some as undercutting john kelly's ability to have full access to full range over policies within the white house. so all of this is kind of
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coming, you know, to a head. and it will be very interesting to see how john kelly handles this issue. the president is essentially punting to john kelly on this one, giving him the wherewithall to make the leeway. at the same time, we heard the president speak so highly of jared kushner. it's hard to imagine that john kelly would create a situation in which jared kushner would be forced to leave. >> frank, one interesting aspect of this is that this conversation between rod rosenstein and don mcgann did not occur between rosenstein and john kelly. because originally that is who rosenstein called to talk to. he said i want to talk to the white house chief of staff, the chief of staff was not available to that have conversation. do you read anything into that? >> well, we don't know the facts.
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it could be that he truly wasn't available. i have to tell you, i'm actually pleased that two lawyers were talking with each other. because maybe there is some sense of policy and protocol and avoiding a double standard and all the repercussions of carving out the exception for just jared kushner when you have about 30 people at the white house who are similarly situated. so maybe it was a good thing. and now we've got the white house counsel weighing in on this. it may actually help kelly, it may actually help kelly say i had counsel advise me to the contrary and had to do it this way. >> ken thomas, really quickly, the president said today he has confidence that john kelly will do the right thing. is there a sense that there's some sort of implicit threat in there, that the president has informed john kelly what he believes the right thing to be, and that's the course of action he expects? >> well, reading between the
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it's concealed! so this crazy man who walked in wouldn't even know who has it, that's good. that's not bad, that's good. and a teacher would have shot the hell out of him before he knew what happened. and there's nobody that loves the second amendment more than i do. and there's nobody that respects the nra, they are friends of mine, they have backed us all. they are great people, they are patriots, but they're great people, but we really do have to strengthen up, really strengthen up background checks. >> president trump took to the cpac stage to talk about among other things about his plan to arm schoolteachers. that's one of the ideas he's floated to prevent mass shootings like the one in parkland, florida. the white house hasn't sent a plan to congress. and it's not clear what exactly such a plan would include or if the president himself planned to put forward a proposal.
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>> what specific pieces of legislation or legislative framework would you propose to lawmakers following the parkland shooting? >> well, we're going to do a lot. but we're going to be very strong on background checks. i expect that many of our people in congress, our senators, our congressmen and women and there's a movement on to get something done. we want to be very powerful, very strong on background checks. and especially as it pertains to the mentally ill. we're going to get rid of the bump stocks. and we're going to do certain other things. >> we'll talk about this, lanhee chen, now a research fellow at the hoover institution. jonathan allen, and christina bellantoni is an editor for "the los angeles times." thank you for being here on what is the end of an incredibly busy news night. christina, i want to start with
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you. the president says he's going to have very powerful and strong changes to the background checks system. that is something that potentially if he's talking about the kind of film we discuss in the wake of newtown shooting would expand background checks. right now that's not what congress is talking about doing. they have a limited version of this bill that would make some changes to the background check system. that broader background check expansion couldn't pass congress after newtown. is there any chance in this environment that something like that could happen if this president pushed for it? >> i mean, i guess there's always any chance, right? but it is pretty unlikely. you and i both covered that debate on gun control after newtown and that was a moment when everyone sort of thought, this is when something could happen. you have all the bipartisan
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energy and intensity behind it. and that didn't happen. and when you think about the fact that it's an election year, less than 300 days out from an election, the nra is incredibly power force, and that is one of the things we saw today at cpac is how powerful they are for a certain group of voters. so i think it's probably pretty difficult. and trump can do some things on his own. there are things he can do with executive orders. president obama did it as well. but as senator feinstein said after the bump stock proposal, that could tie things up in courts by pushing it to the atf and then things are thrown into the court and don't have certainty. so you actually need legislation to make sure that this can be solidified. and getting anything through the house or senate is a difficult issue. on such a thorny issue like that, my prediction is unlikely. >> we have seen this president already have a history of making a very bold statement or more
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than one very bold statement about an issue only to backtrack as he starts to have private conversations with his own staff in the white house or with outside groups. you saw this on immigration. are we seeing that play out on the guns issue as well? >> i think the president seems to have a pretty good feel for what his backers and the gun owners of america, the national rifle association and others want. he was already somebody who was in favor of legislation to repeal the gun-free school zones act, which basically didn't allow for teachers to carry. now what we're hearing about plans to possibly subsidize and train teachers to carry weapons. and if the debate is about that, then donald trump and those who argue strenuously for limited limitations on the second amendment are winning in terms of where that ground is. they're not talking about limiting clip capacity, they're not talking about weapons themselves and instead talking
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about arming schoolteachers, perhaps tightening background checks, getting rid of bump stocks, accessories, basically, that's good ground for trump to be on to protect what second amendment advocates say is almost an invaluable right to bear arms. >> where should republicans be on this today in the wake of parkland as the students are clearly making an impact that maybe felt for longer than has frankly been felt in the past? >> it is untenable for them not to support packages of reforms. and the bump stock is one relatively low fruit. they have not been able to get that done. they have to combine a number of different factors. if president trump is serious about actually putting together a package, i think republicans on the hill would be ecstatic about that because then they have some cover. look, president trump is in
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favor of these things, we're in favor of the same set of reforms, whether it is background checks, really beefing that up and looking at the loopholes that exist in the system now, addressing the mental health questions and addressing the age at which certain weapons can be purchased. that's a more robust package than the republicans have supported in the past, but it will take presidential leadership because that's the only place this can come from. >> that's getting to the politics of this because members of congress don't trust trump on a lot of things. and he may say he's for this one day and tweet he's against it the next day. and they are incredibly weary with going with where he says he is on an issue. >> if the president has a history of anything, he has, in many ways, democratic roots in new york that might give him a slightly different feel for this debate or at least one that he might have had initially. >> yeah, that's an excellent point. and, in addition to that, how much power the states have in how they handle gun control, you know, the president has said a lot about, for example, what california is doing on a lot of issue, but this hasn't been one
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he's criticized the state on. >> jonathan allen, really quickly, were you surprised about the senate campaign announced in florida or considered the top recruit, that he came out today in favor of raising the age for buying an assault weapon to 21? >> i think he's looking for something to be for in terms of the gun control issue at the moment because he doesn't want to be seen as an absolutist in this. that's pretty low hanging fruit, talking about bump stocks, raising the age to 21 is pretty low-hanging fruit for the governor there. obviously, it's a time where you're seeing some shifts in attitudes in florida. there's a florida congressman today, representative mast, he lost both republics in kandahar, and he said no one should carry around the kind of weapon i carried around as a soldier. and he came out and basically flipped on the assault weapons ban. so there's a lot of pressure on
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florida politicians. i think this is a smart move politically for scott and one that won't cost him a lot with gun owner. all right. we're going to take a quick break, but all of you are going to stay with us. coming up, red meat for the base was on offer during the president's speech today at cpac. you will see all of it when "the 11th hour" continues.
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don't worry, you're getting the wall, okay? i heard something. i had a couple of these characters in the back say, oh, he really doesn't want the wall, he just used that for campaigning. i said, can you believe it? you know, i say every time i hear that, the wall gets 10 feet higher. you know that, right? we have a very crooked media. we had a crooked candidate, too, by the way. but we have -- we have a very -- we have a very, very crooked media. >> lock her up! lock her up! >> those were just a few of the highlights from president trump's remarks today at cpac. the president brought his well-known campaign-style speech to the conservative political gathering. and as you could hear, the crowd was more than pleased with what
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trump had to say. after that speech, phillip brucker of the "washington post" said his presidency is basically a never-ending campaign. and although the president's approval rating sits at just 37% among all american voters, his approval among republican voters stands at a solid 86%. back with us, longheng chen. before we show you the come over, we'll show you a piece of the speech getting a lot of attention. it's something he used to say over and over and over again on the campaign trail. but it's something that perhaps we would think would mean something or would be something that you would leave once you became the president for all americans. take a look. >> this is called the snake. and think of it in terms of immigration. and you may love it or you may say, isn't that terrible?
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take me in, oh tender woman, sighed the vicious snake. i saved you, cried the woman! and you've bitten me, heavens why? you know your bite is poisonous, and now i'm going to die. oh, shut up, silly woman, said the reptile with a grin. you knew damn well i was a snake before you took me in. >> when the president says think of this in terms of immigration, he's essentially saying he look you in, we cared for you and you turned around and bit us. many people see this as a very racist way of looking at the world. how do you view it? and is this what the republican party should be saying? >> there's no distinction, even
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if he wanted to make the claim he was talking about illegal immigration, there was no distinction there. and i think this is a continuation of the kind of rhetoric during the campaign that i think was problematic and damaging for the republican party. and will be in the long run. i think the question is, does it matter at this point? you look at cpac, you look at the gathering that it's become, this is not your father's cpac anymore. this is a very different kind of gathering. and people that have wondered about whether the republican party has become the party of president trump, i think, i submit to you exhibit a, which was what you saw today. the kind of speech he gave there, the audience loved it, and that's suggesting that this is the kind of gathering and the kind of party unfortunately
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moving this that direction. the question is how much of this will be lasting, is this a temporary thing? we won't know the answers to those things for some time. but using that speech and talking about immigration broadly in terms of the themes was very troubling to me as the son of immigrants. >> jonathan allen, you were at cpac with me as well this week, do you agree with his assessment of the different kind of atmosphere? >> absolutely. i agree with you about the atmosphere, just to go back to something he said very quickly, i think it is very important there was no distinction there. there was no distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration, legal immigrants and the illegal immigrants. there are members of the president's family that were illegal to this country, including his wife. to not hear that broadly and to not think of it meant broadly, the president gave people to think of it like all immigrants. but in terms of the cpac changing, i talked to "the weekly standard's" political editor this week, jim swift, and he said, cpac was always like a ringling bros. circus. now it's more like cirque du soleil. like a circus on acid. this is where they debated over issues. and now you have a very sort of inline group that is following donald trump. trump is defining conservativism much more than conservatism is defining trump. and he said, people used to ask whether i'm a conservative, and
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i'm paraphrasing, but the answer is yes. the term conservative doesn't mean what it did a year or two ago. now conservatives seems to mean whatever trump defines the republican party to be. >> christina bellantoni, very quickly, last word to you. what is your sense of this broader discussion? and is trump narrowing the definition of conservatism so much that he is fundamentally alienating people like mitt romney and others who identify themselves differently? >> sure. one thing we know is he motivated a certain type of voter that hasn't been excited to come out to the polls, apologies to mr. chen, for mitt romney and republicans in the past. and enough of them showed up that it won him the presidency. so if in three years we're
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talking about, can the president still motivate that type of voter and he's still behaving this way? the answer is yes. the question is, can the opposition motivate the type of voters who didn't feel excited enough for hillary clinton, in particular, to show up? >> christina bellantoni, lanny chen, jonathan allen, thank you. coming up, it is one of the president's favorite words, and he was back at it again today. "the 11 hour" is back after this. when only the best will do... tempur-pedic delivers. only tempur material precisely conforms to your weight, shape and temperature. and tempur-pedic is the best at minimizing motion transfer from your partner, so you won't be disturbed during the night.. you'll wake up, feeling like a champion. this president's day save up to $600 on select adjustable mattress sets
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we know he's a big on telling people believe me and promising reporters answers in a very short period of time but then seems to go on forever. but, no, this one is a word, reciprocal, plus its close cousin reciprocity. >> it must be fair and must be reciprocal. such an important word. hasn't been used very much in the united states. reciprocal. >> we both seek a trading relationship that is balanced, reciprocal, i love the word reciprocal. >> fair and reciprocal trade. >> fairness and reciprocity. >> with partners who abide by the principles of fair and reciprocal trade. >> reciprocal meaning if they're doing it, we're doing it. we're reviewing all of our trade agreements to make sure they are
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fair and reciprocal, so important. we're fighting to create fair and reciprocal trade. >> reciprocal. >> and the word reciprocal is so important. >> reciprocity, my favorite word. >> fair and reciprocal trade, a word you'll hear more and more coming from this administration. >> from now on respect trading relationships to be fair and very importantly reciprocal. >> reciprocal tax. we're going to be doing very much a reciprocal tax. you'll be hearing that during the week and coming months. a reciprocal tax. how do you feel about that? >> well, told we got two more and i would be derelict in my "the 11th hour" guest hosting duties tonight if i neglected to they're them to you. here is the president with the prime minister of australia,
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malcolm turnbull. >> our fair and reciprocal trading relationship is a model for other countries as we seek by l by l bilateral agreements. if they do something to us, we do something to them. >> a quick break for us but first a reminder, if you missed "the 11th hour" or many of your other favorite msnbc shows, download it from the app store, log in and watch on the go. we're back after this.
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tonight, as they cheered at cpac, yet another top trump aide pleads guilty, >> why are you pleading guilty? >> tonight, what we know about the fifth guilty plea in the mueller probe. what the flipping of rick gates means for paul manafort. just what were these two up to with their massive alleged money laundering ring? and how it may all tie back to the president. >> that's what he said. that's what i said. that's obviously what the, our position is. >> plus, the mass corporate exodus away from the nra as the president fully aligns himself with gun dealers and the president gets gruesome on immigration. >> they slash them with machetes. >> a trymaine lee report on fearmongering and ms-13. >> they should give him a retainer terms of promotion and outreach. >> when "all in" starts right now.


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