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sears catalog that took over retail in the united states. amazon's done that. people need to step up and compete and i think it will be even more of a benefit to the u.s. >> hard to compete with amazon given the infrastructure they've built up. >> it is difficult. >> and we know where sears is now, nowhere. thank you so much. we are out of time. i don't have time for news reels, i'm going to have to give it to you online. but today after this week we could certainly use some. we always can. have a great weekend. i'm not going to be here at 11:00 i've got a kid's show go to. i will see you monday and all day long on twitter. right now, more news with my friend hallie jackson. we have a show four because happy breaking news friday. within the last 20 minutes, a new russia report is out. one of them at least. the once in the house intel committee releasing the declassified investigation its findings. we've got our teams pouring through all 250 pangs right now. we'll give you a live reported. on the other side of the world, it's a day for the
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history books. because north and south korea are making major peace proxts, we've seen this story before. so, will north korea keep its word this time? we're in the region for what could be a legacy-making moment and one for president trump too who's feeling triumph fant as we go live to the white house where he's hosting german chancellor angela markle next hour. there will be no hand holding, back slapping stuff that we saw with macron, but the message from germany will be one that france tried to deliver this week. plus, richard engel joins us with more details on this woman, the russian lawyer at the center of that infamous trump tower meting. her ties to moscow closer than we thought. our team is set up here and ready to go. we want to start brand-new with mike. mike, the house intelligence committee has just released its final declassified report on russia interference in the 2016 election. we all remember last month the committee voted to end its investigation and release a
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report over intense objection business democrats, right? so the bottom line is, the prism to whi through which this is viewed is largely political is that fair? >> that's fair. that's been the complaint about democrats about the process all along, especially here in vote tongd the ing to end their investigation last money. they're saying they continue to go ahead with the investigation and just this week they will an interview with the clak whistleblower so they're full steam ahead. in terms of what the report says, we're getting the declassified version of what was voted out last week. it's 253 pages so we'll spend a lot of time digging in for those details. but some of the most controversial findings involve the key question of course was there collusion between the russian officials and trump campaign officials? the finding from this report is, no, there was not. another key question, did russian officials seek to hurt the clinton campaign or help the
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trump campaign? there was a semantic debate that was exposed within the republicans on the committee when they decided to finalize this investigation in this report, and that was the report tried to say they didn't want to hurt clinton but not help trump. now, you can argue that by doing one you're doing the other. that was certainly a source of conversation. one of the things i'm really interested in seeing today is the democratic response. because this was an official report of the house there will be officially minority views. they've had a lot of complaints about process. but we're going to hear from them based on all the interviews that they did and all the information that they did have at their disposal. some s'more substantive responses,less say, to the republican report. >> well, responseors bush pac, mike? >> this is basically, you know, you remember the devon nunn knows memo, this is that on steroids because we're talking a much locker report on a much more comprehensive subject matter. >> yeah. >> this is going to be something we'll be digging into all day. i will note also this.
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some republicans as they're announcesing the final report, both chairman nunez and mike conway to led this investigation are complaining that the intelligence committee wads a little too aggressive in their reactions. there are thingsed that the republicans wanted out there that the intelligence community is not willing to allow to be public at this point. >> mike, i'll let you get back to reading, my friend, so please read fast, bring us the latest as you get it. i want to bring in matt miller former spokesperson for the doj and nbc analyst. we also have a former prosecutor in the u.s. attorney's office here in d.c. and our panel for the next 56 minutes, white house kpornt anne gearrin and former policy reporter for the associated press, josh letterman. matt, to you first. to set the context here as mike did, this report may talk about no collusion, it may not be a surprise to see the president sees on that he's has in the past but the bottom line is is this committee has been crit sides for being overly political. it seems as though a lot of people in washington are looking
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toward the senate committee as well as the special counsel to determine what is the deal with russian interference? >> that's right. if you look at what they have done on the house committee, they have tried to drive to two object fifs. one to come to a report where they found the conclusion first and went for facts to justify it later. that conclusion they were looking to justify was always that there was no collusion. they wanted to gift president the headline he wanted. the second aspect is them trying to interfere with the nib's investigati -- fbi's investigation and you've seen that with the summary of the fica warrant into carter page. this goes back to the first aspect. the problem with their investigation has always been they didn't fully pursue all the questions that they could. they had witnesses that came before the committee, people like steve bannon, hope hicks, who just refused to answer questions. sometimes they would cite privileges, sometimes they
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wouldn't, and the committee never tried to compel any of those witnesses to answer the key question. so if you're not going to use your full investigative powers to compel testimony, it's hard come to with a conclusion that's based on evidence. >> stand by for a second because i want to bring in former fbi special agent and msnbc naushl security analyst clint watts. clint, given what matt is talking about, and what we heard from mike regarding the politics of this, how significant really are these 250 pages? >> i think they're mostly worthless. what i've read through so far, it's eeth sorither so rekt dakdu can't make much sense of it and there seems to be so much here you can't tell what's there. and it tries to push the narrative and two of the ones that i noticed right away were about paul manafort. but he shouldn't have been acampaign -- a campaign adviser.
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he was known because president trump didn't know what he was doing. he played to the fact there was no exclusion, it's just saying we didn't find it in this one aspect but there still is opportunity for that. i think that's where ultimately the mueller investigation will take over and it's going to be so much more robust and the document over time will become worthless. >> strong words, clint watts. seth, talk about reaction here's. because you're nodding your head as clint was talk about the idea that there are lots that left out in this. >> the intelligence community has a vested interest in protecting its method and sources. so when the intel committee wants to put out the names of the people they were interviewing and the methods they used to come to that report, the intelligence community has an alternative or side set of objectives which is to protect the integrity of how they go about their business. redactions are common and i would expect to see them. >> thank you all as we continue
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to pour through and sift through these 250 pages. we also want to talk about big developments on another issue related to what we saw, that break-through this morning, that historic summit between north and south korea, decades of division, death, dispute might be coming to and he. the two leaders, kim jong-un, moon jae-in signing an agreement tend to the state of war and they want to move to total denuclearization of the two nations. jeff, this morning you've got the white house with the flurry of international issues today. you've got to meeting with angela merkel which might be a little bit rocky that's set to happen in been an hour. and then you have the president feeling triumph fant on whaty t morning. >> >> reporter: he characterized
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the news as korean war to end even though it's not a done deal. he also singled out his chinese kaernt part for praise. . the announcement that north and south korea intend to end long-standing hostilities comes ahead of the anticipated meeting between trump and kim. had is certainly part of the run-up to that potential meeting with president trump suggesting all the while that he might be poised to accomplish what other administrations have not. even as world leaders seem to be reacting with trump with some skepticism. i caught up with the president's kellyanne conway and i asked her if she thinks president trump thinks kim is being an honest broker in all of this. here's what she said. >> he's happy with the process. he's happy that people are come together table and being very open about it. he wanted to use this picture -- as director pompeo and secretary
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of state and mr. kim jong-un. but as the president says frequently, we'll wait and see and see what happens and if the conditions are not right, then the united states will reconsider. but so far it's been positive. >> reporter: that might have been hard to hear. she said that the president is happy with the process. so add north korea to the list of things president trump is going to speak about today with german chancellor angela merkel when the two meet. he's coming on the heels of a visit by french president emmanuel macron. and man krone enjoyed three days of fancy dinners and bro hugs, merkel is getting less than three hours on the president's schedule today even though the two are in lock step, angela merkel are in lock step on trade, climate change, she also wants them to grant some relief on steel and trade. although i would point out she has one advantage that macron did not when she meets with the president today and that's the expectations that she can situate president on any of those issues are fairly close to zero. >> see new just a little bit, my
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friend, for that news conference later on this afternoon. i want to go over to janice in seoul. about 30 miles from the border where the summit was all going down. janet, the headline here, history was made, but this is just a first step in what is undoubtedly a long road ahead. >> reporter: there are four goals, but they're also very familiar to people here. they've been down this road before, they've had these brokered and broken before. we need to unpack this statement on denuclearization a bit. first of all they made this pledge to end the korean war. what does that mean? they still need to have three-way talks with the u.s., four-way talks with china in order to forge a peace treaty that's been in place for decades. they did say this was the end of war on the korean peninsula, that so that's a statement in
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itself. but the statement on denuclearization was a bit americaier. it was they would move toward the common goal of the denuclearization on the peninsula. they don't define what that means and there's not a hint of concessions by anyone. so at this point north korea is pror promising to give up nothing, and that's why there's this degree of skepticism here is kim jong-un is using a tactical move, this shift of diplomacy because he achieved the credible nuclear deterrent. he got other players to the table. he had his own maximum pressure campaign of sorts and now he's moving towards maximum engagement. it doesn't change the fact that what we saw today was extraordinary. seeing him walk across the dnz shaki shaking hands with moon jae-in and this sense of friendliness and warmth, there was banter and hugging. this was a historic day, but it remains to be seen whether it will actually change history.
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this all, of course, was an important intelligence gathering opportunity to the united states as it makes the preparations for kim's summit with president trump. hallie. >> janice in seoul, thank you. i want to bring in somebody who knows a thing or two about north korea. ambassador phil richardson. he's part of talks and negotiations with north korea since the early '90s. appearance a pleasure to have you on and i got to get your reaction to what you saw develop overnight into the early morning hours. real progress or just show? >> well, i think it's real progress. yes, showmanship too. but, you know, for the people of the korean peninsula, this is enormous. this is a dramatic easing of tensions. people in south korea, the 25 million that are vulnerable to a north korean attack, you know, are probably more comfortable this morning. and that's good. and that sets a tone for the talks with president trump and
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kim jong-un. >> so you have the specifics, setting up the jointly a son offices, resergeant transportation projects. other than that, what's in here that has not been in past agreements on interkorean talks? >> well, human rights issues, i think it's important family reunification between the tkore instap insta instances like that. i think what's most important here significant is the end of the arm miistice, the korean wa how is that going to affect for instance american troops and the relationship with south korea? i know kim jong-un has said they can stay, but what does this do to nuclear submarines of the united states? so there are a lot of issues that have not been settled that are part of it.
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and then there's denuclearization. >> right. >> both sides, the u.s. and north korea have different positions. >> what is -- what is i think so extraordinary, one of the pieces that extraordinary about this are the visuals that we're seeing, not just yesterday's picture of mike pompeo and kim jong-un hand ha in hand in the handshake, but also images like this of the two leaders side by side. for example you had that one shot of these leaders from the back as kim jong-un pulled the president of south korea or walked with him, stepped with him symbolically in north korea. but just compare that to this time magazine cover of 2000. we have been here before. we have seen this story. there has been hope of reconciliation this picture from 2000 on the peninsula before. what has changed this time? is it president trump? >> two things have changed. one, it's going from the top to the bottom. this time kim jong-un himself is engaged. he's the nuclear negotiator. in past cases, his father would
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delegate to his nuclear negotiator. in hour case it's always gone from the bottom to the top and now the president is personally engaged. my worry there is that we're not going to be ready and the president is impulsive and shoots from the hip. but at the same time, this is good. and i think lastly, i think kim jong-un has a plan, an end game. and the end game is possibly trading his nuclear weapons for economic growth, for assistance, ending sanctions for assurance that we're not going to try to knock him off for a number of private sector initiatives pit think that -- i think that's his end game. >> thank you for talk through these significant developments. i appreciate it. with us onset is david visiting professor at my alma mater johns hopkins university. and anne and josh are here as well. get you guys into the
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conversation. let me start with you, david, with what lindsey graham said this morning. he was down in south carolina talk about this. he was talking about the president, his involvement on the talks and whether the president should be taking credit for it. listen. >> it wouldn't have happened without trump, it may not happen. but it's the biggest change since the end of the hostility. the fact that the north korean and south korean presidents met and they vowed to end the war, what happened? donald trump convinced north korea and china' was serious about change. we're not there yet but if this happens president trump deserves a noble peace prize. >> big talk, david, from lindsey graham. >> i don't think it's quite ready to dust off the place on the shelf for the noble prize just yet. a long way away from this and there are a lot of reasons to believe that it's in kim jong-un's interests to say we'll talk about denuclearization but that he won't actually ever get
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there or that it will be a long, long process. >> so you think this will be what we've seen in the past, talks start to happen and nothing comes out of it? >> i think it is. i think what's especially interesting is how it affects other things. for example, kim jong-un might not agree to anything at all if the u.s. pulls out of the iran deal. so kim jong-un has a lot of leverage over trump in a way that merkel and macron have not got leverage and we'll see that again today. >> that's an interesting point. anne. >> i mean, that actually has been an argument in favor of staying in the iran deal. >> an argument that you're explicitly making. >> if you look at that time from kim jong-un's perspective, why would he cut a deal with the united states if the track record is that the united states pulls out of a deal when the next president comes in with a different political perspective. that's -- i mean, trump has an
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answer for that, but it's definitely an argument now being tried in defense of the iran deal and to try to bring some skepticism to the question of whether or not there really is a nuclear deal that could stick that they could do with north korea. because what's on the table appears to be a deal that would be very much like the iran nuclear deal, an international pact under which north korea backs out of certain nuclear commitments in exchange for release of sanctions and economic development. it sounds very familiar. >> what was so interesting, too, josh, we've talked about this a little bit, is the optics of this. it seems like kim jong-un is trying to remake his image from that of ruthless dictator who kills members of his own family, at least you think he does, versus international statesman, going out there and shake hands with mike pompeo or shaking hands with president moon. is that going to work particularly we have president trump calling him at times honorable? >> the optics of this are
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important, and especially for generations in the koreas whos have v been watching this for a long time. it's hard to say whether it will be is substantiative or anything will come out of it. but we shouldn't undercut the value of this in the short-term. it was only a few months ago where president trump was talking about fire and furry. >> the state of the union he said oppressive regime. >> people were scared on this continent and on asia about the serious risk of military confrontation. as long as we have the optics of this, it will be very difficult for trump to escalate militarily. >> hewhat we're watching for th hour, we have president trump meet with olympic athletes at the white house before greeting angela merkel there. you have mike pompeo in his role as secretary of state overseas who be meeting with nato and talk with military personnel.
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given all of that, how does the president grap he will with tplh angela merkel? how does the president work through this with merkel when it comes to north korea, when it comes to some of these other international issues? >> well, this is a photo op. >> not a photo op like we saw with macron. >> he's not giving her time. he gave out this tweet earl dwlaer sai -- earlier, he's giving her time because they don't get along well. he's about to hit her with trade sanctions which are disturbing. he's not going to give them what they want in terms of the jcpla. in fact, the relations are probably at the worst level they've been since the second world war. >> you saw kellyanne conway in the driveway which sometimes happens and she talked about the idea that you're getting at here. here it is. >> i see there's comparison. i think every leader is
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different, every relationship is different. but the important part is the relationship between the country. and we're very happy to -- angela merkel is making another appearance here to the united states and we welcome here today. >> so just look at direct position between the reception given to emmanuel macron and the reception given to angela merkel. you know, days upon days of fancy dinners and so forth versus a couple of quick meetings and a press conference on a rainy friday. and you have -- and you have all of the information you need, really. macron was the designated emm s emsayry on trade and climate. and germany is also a signatory to the iran nuclear deal and those are every bit as important to germany and the case of trade
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more so. but she gets to come make her argument but for a very short period of time. >> i'll let you have the final word here in this conversation when it comes to where this goes next because now you have the idea of continued talks, obviously, and interactions between the south and north, you have these potential summit talks with president trump and kim jong-un which are going to be highly significant and i feel like half the white house press corps is wondering what are we doing? where are we going? so how does this unfold? >> i think it winds up with the summit because trump wants the summit. legacy issue and redemptive and counterprogramming to mueller and everything else. but what happens after the sum submit? you get a smum mitt rare photo op are a, announcement, big discussion about the end of the korean war and now we'll have the negotiations and the negotiations will go on and on and on and the hard part is a long way from now. and so i think we just need to sort of cool our jets a little bit in terms of declaring, you know, victory on this thing.
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one other last point. this support to the collard greens. t -- koreans. the koreans are making this happen. >> trump likes to say his involvement. >> we always talk about this is trump centric. but actually this is korea centric and we have to keep that in mind as we go forward. >> anne and josh, stick around. david, glad to have you. we're going to be right back with more on arizona which is the latest state where teachers are walking out of the classroom. there are new developments on this. the governor offering a compromise. organizers saying his plan does not go far enough. patrick woke up with a sore back. but he's got work to do. so he took aleve this morning. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that.
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too. we cover it all here on this shoe, everything, including world baby news. we want to cover what's happening out west in arizona because the schools are closed for a second dave teacher strikes. thousands of teachers expected to turn to the capital. schools were closed for about 75% of students. the teachers want the state legislature to raise taxes to give more teacher pay, more funding to schools. arizona and colorado is the latest in a national wave of protests. remember the ones in virginia last month where teachers closed school for almost two weeks. they propose a 20% raise for teachers over the next few years but they say that plan doesn't get at the underlying funding concerns they have. we're joined now live from phoenix. great to have you on the show. you've been talking to teachers, let me know what you're hearing. >> reporter: good morning, hallie. so just to talk about that scope which you were just talking
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about, when we saw those teachers out here, 50,000 to 70,000 teachers, that means that about 840,000 students across arizona are not going to class today and they didn't go to class yesterday. tnd unclear when a lot of them are going back to class. one of the things that we heard over and over again among all those teachers is that educators are having to find second jobs, third jobs just to support themselves, that's how bad the pay has gotten here. teachers saying that they want a 20% increase and they want a billion dollars back into the classroom. but that shows how big of a discrepancy is. they say even with that billion dollars and i 20% raise they wouldn't be at the national average. i want to bring in melanie here. you're a third grade teach are but tell me what else you're doing to make ends meet. >> in addition to be a classroom teacher i tutor, i'm part of a staffing agency so i waitress at different restaurants, weddings, i'm a dog walker so i do that.
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i also help with weddings and so just a lot of different things to try to make ends meet for my familiar. >> i that's four different jobs. >> yeah. >> reporter: in addition to teaching which is not a 9:00 to 5:00. >> correct. and all thuf and it's just frustrating. i worked hard, i went to school, that's what i tell my kwids do. i have a masters degree. i'm a dissertation away from my doctorate as well. >> reporter: and you're doing all of this. how do you do it? >> support of my husband and family knowing that my kids deserve better. so i'm out here for them. yesterday joe thomas said it perfectly is we expect our best of our students every single day so i'm out here for them to show them that i'm going to give my best for them. >> reporter: thanks so very much. thanks for your time. that's just one of the stories that we're hearing out here. again, the governor saying that he is willing to meet them at that 20% raise but a lot of teachers out here, a lot of lawmakers are still unsure where that money's going to come from.
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nbc news cluessive interview. our chief foreign correspondent richard engel has uncovered new details about the russia lawyer at the center of the trump tower meeting back in 2016. it turns out that lawyer who said she was there in the meeting as a private sit zone offer dirt on hillary clinton has deeper ties to the russian government than she's previously admitted. richard joins us now from alstonia to tell us more about the evidence he dug up and has traveled to moscow to confront her, right? >> reporter: so a lot of this goes back to that meeting in trump tower. so you remember this was a key meet rearing lot of people had been focused ton in which the members of the trump team, this was before the election, are there and they're meeting with a group of russians. to a lot of people, that looks conspirtorral, why were they there? this was the meeting in which donald trump jr. wrote if this is what you say i love it
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because the trump team went in, donald trump jr., manafort, kushner, expecting to get dirt from the russians on hillary clinton. they show up, a russian lawyer is there with some other people and they start talking to them about sanctions. they start talking about how the russian sanctions, the u.s. sanctions out of russia are unfair, that they are based on lies, they're based on a conspiracy. so, we've been looking into who is this woman, how connected is she? she has long said that she's just a private lawyer, doesn't work for the government, doesn't work for the kremlin, is just a concerned citizen who wanted the trump campaign to now how wrong and misguided the u.s. sanctions are against russia. so we started looking into her. we interviewed her and we found court documents that show that she's represented the intelligence agency, the fsb, the russian intelligence agency in the past. we showed that we also uncovered
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this document that was given to us that is an e-mail exchange that suggests she was collaborating with a senior russian official to come up with an official government response in a u.s. court case which suggests that she has a great deal more influence with the kremlin. and perhaps officials of the kremlin than her role as just a private lawyer would suggest. >> let me play a little bit of this interview, and i now you'll be talking about it more on this dmet network, 9:00 p.m. eastern so people can watch the full interview. here's a piece of it and then i have a question four after we watch. >> you said that you never tried to dictate the case that the russia prosecutor was giving. if you did, and that's what these documents suggest, would that be an obstruction of
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justice? >> so she seems a little bit angry, richard. how would you characterize her role in all of this? >> she is -- she was very angry in the interview. she insists emphatically that she's just a private lawyer and doesn't have these kind of connections and didn't have an agenda in that meeting in trump tower. but these documents suggest that she was going back and forth with a senior russian government official to work on a coordinated response to send to the u.s. justice department. that implies that she has a much more role -- much more of a roll than just an average russian lawyer might have. and we've spoken to quite a few people who say that this was a way to make a tempting offer to the trump campaign and see if the trump campaign would respond and do it in a twha is deniable using a -- because at the end of
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the day she is a lawyer, using somebody like that who is friendly with government officials, known to government officials, has influence with government officials to go do that meet, get a reached how the trump team would react, and effectively see how things go from there. >> and just to remind folks here too, she was actually was talk together senate judiciary committee, she gave a statement to them in which she said i operate, sort of what her claim as been to you, richard, it sounds like i operate independently of any governmental bodies. i have no relationship with mr. chaika and his representatives and his institutions other than those related to my professional functions as a lawyer. >> and he is the prosecutor general. >> right. >> it's hard to know. she was acting in a professional capacity as a lawyer. this case, it goes back to a case in new york, so there was a dmas manhattan where the prosecutors wanted to seize some
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property. she came in as a legal consultant for her client offering advice in the background. and the american prosecutors wanted some official documents from russia. these e-mails suggest she was coordinating with the russian government to get the response to the american prosecutors. and, again, what that says about her, whether -- whether -- that says she was an agent of the kremlin, it's hard to say. but it does suggest that she has a lot more influence. >> yeah. >> than just an average lawyer, that this was not just some lawyer who found herself in the trump tower meeting at a very key time. >> real quick, richard, before i let you go. anything from the russian government, russian officials on th this? >> reporter: well, the russian government and she herself have been adamantly denying that this is true. they say she is a private
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citizen rare priva citizen, a private lawyer but that there fwhoos collusion that that trump tower meet was not an attempt to dangle dirt on hillary clinton and then talk about sanctions. some people, frankly, we've spoken to, we interviewed for our spot tonight, our show that's coming up at 9:00, former cia officials, we interviewed prosecutors and they said you have to look at that time differently. look at it like a business meeting where somebody shows up, they expect to talk about one thing and the other party starts talking about an issue that they want resolved. >> right. >> is that collusion or is that sort of an unofficial offer? we want this and in exchange maybe you get that. >> interesting. >> reporter: so we'll be talking about that tonight. >> we are lucky to have you live on this program from alstonia before your special programming tonight so thank you for that. the interview 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc. do not miss if the. back here at home, it was supposed to be a week of good news but some major distractions
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keep stealing the show. we're diving into what's been five days of chaos for donald trump and what it means for the president.
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intelligence committee we told you about at the top of the show. republicans there are releasing their findings in the russia investigation. as kind of predicted, president trump is now weighing in on twitter. he is taking a bit of a victory lap but democrats who have now come out with their response in the last 30 minutes have a different perspective. msnbc's garrett hake son the hill. garrett, bring us up to speed on the latest because between mike and matd miller talk about this with us 40 minutes ago, things have happened. >> reporter: that's right. we're still digging through this report. it's only been out for about 45 minutes but we have seen complaints about it from both sides. some republicans don't like how much of the report was regakted by the intelligence community. democrats in their statement from adam schiff who's the lead democrat on this committee say not just the documented self is flawed but really the entire process by which it was introduced is flawed saying republican members of the committee refuse to pursue meaningful leads and subpoena folks who were not answering
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questions and the entire process resolved into a partisan sham. but, however, in the last 45 minutes we have heard from the president of the united states and he's thrilled with this report. the president tweeting a short time ago just out, house intelligence committed tee report released, quote, no evidence that the trump campaign colluded, coordinated or conspired with russia. clinton campaign paid for opposition research obtained from russia, wow. a total witch hunt. must end now! not surprising that the president would greet these findings in such a way. although the last part of this is interesting and will concern folks who are worried about the integrity of the special counsel's investigation. because in this case, the idea that something must end now, the house intel committee has ended. their effort on this is over, it's done, it's complete spot what he's calling for to be ended there is not that probe, it's another one. and if it's the special counsel's, this will once again concern people that the president is targeting robert mueller in that effort. >> and quickly because there was some news on that, some
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republicans sending a signal to the president by passing i believe out of the judiciary committee that bill that would try to protect mueller. >> yeah. >> here's the thing. mitch mcconnell is never going to bring it to the floor, right? >> that's leader said this bill that has bipartisan support came out of the judiciary committee yesterday and will never come to the floor. the president would never sign this. supporters of the bill, in this case, some of the republicans say that's not the point. they wanted to send a signal and did so in a public way yesterday. folks who have backed the president, senator hatch, he didn't vote for this but speaking about how damaging it would be for the president to fire mueller. lindsey graham saying the same thing and four republicans joining every democrat on that committee to pass this bill hoping that the president will pay attention to the political consequences to him even if the bill doesn't become law. >> garrett haake, pleasure to have you on. thank you. i'll let you get back to your required reading assignment.
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appreciate it. listen, let's take a beat. this latest news coming out of congress is capping what's been a whirlwind week in washington. this in particular is interesting. you have the president looking toward a diplomatic visit, the second one of the meweek when h meets with angela merkel. that comes on the heels of his buddy buddy meet with macron. the potential diplomatic breakthrough with north korea. reasons for the white house to want to talk about foreign policy. right? but there are these side show distractions that continue to suck up a ton of oxygen. they're not just distractions. they're policy and personnel issues for president trump. look at the headlines out this morning. this one from the washington post. a week of try f-- >> the v.a. secretary's nomination up in flames. the fbi directly contradicting with the white house said it knew about rob porter, the
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former top aide fired after allegations of spousal abuse. let's bring in white house reporter and analyst friend of show, ashley parker back with me, ann gooern and josh letterman. ashley, more chaos, more contradiction. right? >> that's right. you mentioned some of these things that the president also has a rally scheduled saturday where he's going to get to be out with the people. while sort of the washington swamp marinades in itself. instead, the focus was on a number of self-inflected wounds. we saw dr. ronny jackson having to withdraw his nomination, but only after 36 hours in which the white house kind of took every single side of how to defend him or not or tell him he should leave or double down on defending him. scott pruitt, there's not a single person in the white house basically except for the president who thinks he should be there. so he had to testify before
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congress and face some pretty tough questions. you have null vainny saying he prioritizes meetings with lobbyists who give him true. that's not something you're supposed to say, especially not when you're working for a drain the swamp administration. you had mike pompeo, the president's secretary of state pick. he did get through, but it was way more of a squeaker than it should have been, and now the woman nominated to replace him at the cia is coming under a lot of scrutiny for her overseeing some advanced interrogation techniques and she was described as having to be near perfect to get through. so far nothing in this operation has been anywhere close to perfect. so they did a lot of good things this week. the headlines were not focussed on any of that. >> what's been interesting in the reporting from my conversations with folks at the white house is the role of john kelly. you're writing about it. saying personal matters are usually the per view of the chief of staff.
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you're saying a down fall one west wing staffer characterized as moving from the enforcer to an afterthought. w i want to bring in ann and josh. they say people misunderstood his role. he was never going to come in and be the guy that was going to slap the phone out of donald trump's hands and wouldn't tweet anymore. how do you read his role now? >> i mean, maybe he would like to say he wasn't supposed to be that guy, but he behaved that like that guy, and he let people know in the white house early on that he was going to try to corral leaking and chaos and what he saw as an undisciplined work space. there's very little that goes with that that can involve corralling the president himself, but that around him was exactly the goal. >> one of the things we try to do in the show because my other job for nbc is to be a reporter
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on the field. what do voters think? do they care about some of this stuff? when people inside the beltway get into this personnel issues, ashley writes about a former congressman who said a lot of this is background noise and people push the mute button. >> people don't care about the personnel stories but they care about the functioning of the white house. the broader issue that is affected by that. and when you have a president that actually points out how they want -- talking about other things. white houses are built to juggle multiple stories and be thrown off message, but the number of self-inflicted wounds, nominating people who aren't ready for prime time, it starts to undermine the president himself. >> josh, and ann, ashley parker, thank you for joining us here on the program. i appreciate you all being here. we want to show you quick president trump talking at the white house to team usa. he's congratulating the athletes on their success at the winter games. so far the president is sticking to just olympics talks. if he makes any news, we'll bring it to you.
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later. protesters are marching for the students that have still never been found. it's a story that we'll still be talking about. the photographer is from the associated press, marco aguarto. i'm going to head to the white house to try to get chances to president trump and chancellor merkel. cross your fingers on this breaking news friday. >> i always do. i think you have the best questions. >> thank you. >> we'll be on possibly later this afternoon together. >> thank. good morning. stephanie ruhle is off. it's friday, april 27th. i'm ali velshi. let's get started. this hour on the trump tower meeting between russians and drop trump campaign officials, the lawyer at natalia veselnitskaya appears to have been in closer coordination with the kremlin than previously known. new


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