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south to myrtle beach, and that is where we find allie velshi who will pick up our coverage of hurricane florence there in south carolina. good luck, my friend. >> your home state, craig. i love it but, boy, it is a hard day to be here. the winds have really picked up in myrtle beach and, unfortunately, as craig has reported we now know of at least three confirmed deaths, a mother and an infant in wilmington, north carolina, and then another person in pender county. we will get more information on those, but this is a deadly hurricane florence. it is still a little bit north of us. you are starting to see this in myrtle beach. we are starting to get power outages here. we have power lines down, we have transformers broken. this is a serious, serious storm. let's take a look at what it has done so far. >> this is only the beginning. florence is a very slow mover.
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>> we are getting calls for emergencies. we are not being able to get out while this storm is underway and get to anybody at this time. >> you guys are waiting on a ride out of here? >> yes, sir, as soon as possible. >> reporter: you had about enough of this? >> oh, yes. >> it will be quiet for a minute and then it just -- i mean the wind is at 80 miles per hour. we've got eight-foot swells around our house. it is like we're standing on a pier at the beach and they're crashing on our ten-foot deck. >> reporter: we are still going to get the worst of it here in myrtle beach sometime in the next few hours, and it is these winds like they were in eastern and northern north carolina. they're going to be with us for a while. that's where the damage comes from. it is the sustained winds, the rains and the storm surge. i want to go to new bern, north carolina. garrett haake is there where they've been getting rescue calls and emergency management and the national guard have been performing rescues since early
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this morning. garrett, what is the situation where you are in new bern? >> reporter: ali, they are getting new rescue calls but i think not at the pace they were overnight. they got about 500 of those rescue calls and workers were out really at first light this morning in boats and trucks whenever they could to get people out of flooded neighborhoods. most of the flooding was due to the storm surge, which i'm pleased to tell you is not nearly as bad as it was earlier. you see some debris behind me. it was pushed up about 11:00 p.m. last night. when it got to the high tide today, it was not pushed up quite as far. you can see people are outside on bicycles despite the fact we're in the middle of a hurricane. ali, the storm surge has gone down but the wind and rain haven't stopped here. i'm living about 24 hours in your future. this started raining here about 3:00 yesterday afternoon and it really hasn't stopped since. we have had a little bit of a break in some of those bands, but the rain continues to come down here. 30,000 people in this town,
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21,000 of them are without power including us. i think that's going to be the situation here for quite a while. this is a soggy, nasty, rainy storm, continuing here with some of the rescue efforts still underway in scattered parts of the city, ali. >> reporter: what is causing the rescue efforts? these are people who stayed in and then what happened, garrett, the flooding was more serious than they expected? >> reporter: everyone we talked to today told versions of the same story. it is basically that, ali, that they did not expect the flooding to be this bad. lots of folks including one guy who said he lived in the same home for 30 years, he didn't expect it to be like this. people hear that category 1 or 2 and think of it as shorthand and don't worry about the storm surge as we've been talking about for at least the last 24 hours. it is really the wrong way to approach this. the surge can be much more dramatic, particularly communities like this along the river. i'm not anywhere close to the coast. this is all river flooding for the most part that has jumped
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the bank and come into these communities. what you typically see are folks with elderly relatives, pets, little kids, economic reasons that they don't want to leave, and a lot of these folks lost their power overnight, woke up this morning with water coming up to their front door, in their homes and realized they would need the help of the professionals or the highly-trained amateurs like the cajun navy to get out of those homes, get to shelters and to safe places for the next couple of days. >> right. you started getting rain there a lot earlier than we did. we didn't get our first rain until late this morning. thanks, garrett. i want to give you a picture of this. you may be able the see it. the surf is up here now. this is the first time we've seen that in this storm. the surf is up, but if you can see the wind is still blowing in the opposite direction of the surf. so for the moment places like this, inland a little bit from myrtle beach and myrtle beach itself, flooding is not yet the concern, but there are rivers about 15 miles in and when high tide comes in about 11:00 tonight, combined with the fact
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that this storm will intensify, we're going to see that problem. i want to go about 40 miles north of where we are, north/northeast, back in to north carolina, oak island. that's where mary ann a, how is the situation where you are? >> reporter: i have been reporting from the ocean side of the island, which is the southern side. i wanted to move north to show you the intracoastal waterway behind me. yad yesterday we were here. this water, this was about three feet lower yesterday than what you are seeing now. it gives you an idea of how high the water got with this storm. we were told with hurricane matthew in 2016 it went even higher than this, so it just shows you the extent of what the damage could have been had this storm not turned at the last minute. but residents just beginning to see the damage to their homes now that the rain has died down a little bit. you can see this huge tree fell
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down in front of the property of a woman named cathie who we just ran into here. cathie, i want you to tell all of the people watching, how do you think you fared here in oak island? it was looking scary for a while? >> it was a rough morning, i will say that. the winds were just really awful. it was a little heart-wrenching not knowing how bad it was going to get, you know. but i think we did all right. we have a screen out and a fan out, obviously a tree which we hate to look this beautiful tree, and the debris is going to be a mess. >> reporter: what concerns you still at this point? are you out of the woods? >> no, we're concerned that we still might lose our power. we still do have power, but we could still lose that overnight, and we're also concerned about the high tide tonight which is around midnight i think, 11:30, 12:00 at night. >> reporter: can i ask you quickly, our garrett saying about many people that decided to stay and now they're having
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to be rescued. why did you decide to stay? >> we felt very secure in our house. it was only built three years ago. it has high-impact windows, a metal roof and a superior wall system which, you know, rebar and concrete. we felt very safe in the house. when they downgraded a little bit we decides -- and we did have a hotel room. we decided we could go inland and get stuck and not be able to get back home with inland flooding they were predicting. so we decided to hunker down and just bite the bullet and see what we can do. >> reporter: thank you, cathie, for talking to us. >> sure. >> reporter: i know you have been through a lot and i'm happy your home is safe. stay safe. >> thank you. >> reporter: as you heard, people not out of the woods. this home has power because the power lines are underground, but as we have been reporting more than 600,000 people throughout the state can't say the same thing. >> yeah, we have 615, almost 616,000 at our last report in north carolina. of course, this is happening on
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a rolling basis. people are losing power even faster than that, so it is upward of 615,000 in north carolina. here in south carolina we have only had this storm for a few hours. our last reports are about 80,000 people out of power. i would imagine that's going higher because here in myrtle beach we've still got power exactly where we are, but we know that there are power lines down, there are transformers that have blown, there are power lines that are even burning here in myrtle beach. so we're watching that very closely. i want to go to michelle grossman who is tracking the storm. michelle, this is a hard one to understand because normally a storm comes in, it gets the land, starts to move in and starts to weaken. this thing has weakened a bit, it is 75 miles per hour sustained winds but it is still a serious storm and still heading down the coast. >> absolutely. it is going to continue to follow that direction, so we are seeing it move south. you are enjoying the calm before the storm. even as recently as this morning
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residents were calling officials to see if they could get back into myrtle beach, officials were saying no way, and this is a good reason why. we are seeing this storm move down to the south. we are seeing these changes already with you, and we're going to see a rough afternoon and evening overnight in myrtle beach. in terms of radar we are seeing some heavy rain falling. here is myrtle beach and the center. it is going to move to the west and to the south and we will continue to see the heavy rain falling and strong winds for a duration of maybe 36 hours. we will continue to track that. that pink line a tornado watch for 26 counties. keep that in mind. i know we talked about that yesterday, power outages across the area, and we could see once the sun goes down that could be trouble with tornado watches and tornado what, a tore nade -- tornado watches and tornados that are spawned. we are looking at very strong
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winds. we have seen damage in a lot of spots. of course, north carolina has been dealing with this since this time yesterday. now south carolina is getting in on the action. ali kind of asked about the path here. so a category 1 storm. it is very rare when a hurricane goes on land it doesn't weaken right away. usually that friction weakens it right away. as we go towards myrtle beach, still a category 1 storm. so we're going to see winds that are 74 miles per hour, maybe even a little higher than that. as we go throughout saturday, this is unheard of as well, tropical storm force winds over to columbia. watch what happens as we go throughout time here. we are not talking about a story that happened yesterday, today, tomorrow, also on sunday. we are talking through tuesday, the remnants of the storm will be affecting the northeast by tuesday at 8:00 a.m. of course there will be massive clean-up efforts going on here as well. this will be a story that will last for weeks and weeks. let's talk about the wind gusts. we are talking about up to 90 miles per hour in wilmington. this is afternoon forecast.
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myrtle beach where you are, ali, 77-miles-per-hour wind gusts and we will see ones higher than that. we will see additional power outages. this is an awesome graph telling you the potential for that. we have seen a lot of that. where you see the reds and oranges, that's includes myrtle beach as well. of course, the storm surge has been the biggest story for the past five days and continues to be the biggest story as we go on. >> so, michelle, to be clear, what is the likelihood or the possibility that this storm does get back out into the ocean and continue down? >> so we've been watching this. it is so unpredictable, it is moving so slow. when a storm moves slow it tends to wobble back and forth. so there is a chance it could happen. looking at the latest data, it doesn't look as though that's going to happen, but you know what? it is still going to remain strong even over land. so it doesn't matter much, even if it did go back over the water it wouldn't strengthen that much. it is going to hold on to that category 1 strength for quite a
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while. >> got it. michelle grossman, thanks very much for this. >> sure. >> we'll stay close to you on the updates for this. i want to go to mark who is the chief information officer for myrtle beach. mark, you are on the phone with us. i am standing exactly where i was when you were with me last. what is the situation? because i'm on the beach, what is the situation in myrtle beach in terms of power and downed trees and downed power lines? >> we do have some downed trees, some downed power lines. i think area-wide we are talking about maybe 55,000 customers without electricity at the moment, and that's grown over the last couple of hours. it started out at about 16,000. we have some electrical problems. i'm not aware of any significant property damage at this point, which is a good sign that this storm is not quite what we expected. all week it hasn't been quite what we expected. we are in reasonably good shape. we are hopeful by dawn tomorrow morning we can get crews out and about and survey the damage.
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>> all right. as michelle was saying, the storm is a little wobbly, it is hard to know exactly where it is going. there's some likelihood as we've been looking at new bern and places on the eastern side of north carolina that these winds and rain, regardless of how strong they are or weak they are, are going to hang around here for a while. this could be a problem for longer than we were expecting. >> correct. this may become a flood emergency, not a hurricane emergency. we're concerned about that. we've seen the large numbers that are projected in terms of rainfall. it will be interesting to see what the actual rainfall totals are, but all of the rain falling in north carolina -- and our hearts go out to everybody along the north carolina coast -- all of that rain in the next four, five, six, seven days is going to come to south carolina, ali, through the river systems. that's just where the water flows. so we'll get rain. north carolina has gotten rain. we really are concerned about flooding not here at the beach on the coast itself, but inland
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starting at about the city of conway and moving westward from there. there are a couple of communities -- lumberton in north carolina, one of the smaller communities in northwestern orrie county that have not recovered fully from matthew's flooding two years ago. we definitely have the flood problem on our radar. >> all right. we're looking at flooding. we are looking at power outages. mark, thanks very much for joining us. mark kruea, the chief information officer for myrtle beach. our coverage of hurricane florence continues up and down the carolina coast. from myrtle beach, we will be back after this break. you are watching msnbc. who would have thought, who would have guessed? an energy company helping cars emit less. making cars lighter, it's a good place to start,
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we will, of course, continue to follow the latest on hurricane florence, that developing story, but we also have this stunning development in the russia investigation. the president's former campaign chairman, paul manafort, who repeatedly said he would never do it, is, in fact, now fully cooperating with the special counsel's office. the deal announced this morning in court where manafort stood before the judge and admitted guilt to two charges, conspiracy against the united states and obstruction of justice for witness tampering. he remains in jail for now until
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sentencing. the cooperation agreement with the special counsel's office coming days before his second trial was set to get under way. remember, it was just a month ago that president trump referred to manafort as a brave man for not breaking and talking with disdain about people who he called flippers. so far though today the president hasn't been heard from directly, no tweets so far. his press secretary, sarah sanders, did issue this statement. this had absolutely nothing to do with the president or his victorious 2016 presidential campaign. it is totally unrelated. his lawyer, rudy guilliani, issued a similar sounding statement. quote, once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with president trump or the trump campaign. the reason, the president did nothing wrong. for more on all of this i'm joined by ken delaney and at the federal courthouse where he has been all day, along with our new nbc legal analyst, glen kirshner
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in washington, d.c. is it accurate, what both sanders and guilliani are saying, this has nothing to do with the president, has nothing to do with his campaign? do we even know what he has to offer robert mueller? >> we don't know, chris, but it is not accurate to say it has nothing to do with the president. the president is the subject of robert mueller's investigation into whether the trump campaign coordinated, conspired with the russian election interference. today it could be the most moment us day yet in the course of that investigation. it began when paul manafort walked into a courtroom in that courthouse behind me and uttered the words "i plead guilty." before he did that, the lead prosecutor, andrew wiseman, walked the court through about 40 minutes of all of the illegal conduct that the mueller team has alleged against paul manafort, both in virginia and d.c. in the first two rows of the courtroom were filled with investigators and people associated with the case, a case that's been called a witch hunt by president donald trump, that's been lambasted by trump
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allies. while paul manafort pleaded guilty to two charges, he admitted to all of it, the bank fraud, the tax fraud, the failure to file as a foreign lobbyist for -- let's not forget -- russian-backed ukrainian interests. he got a sweet deal. the question is what does he have to offer the mueller team. he has agreed to fully cooperate, that means meeting with investigators without his lawyer present, testifying when they say he needs to testify, and postponing his sentencing until they're satisfied he has fully cooperated. the big mystery remains what does he have to offer about roger stone, about the trump campaign, about his relationship with the russian oligarch. this is going to play out in dumbing months. >> manafort's attorney -- by the way, welcome aboard. it is great to have you as part of the nbc team. >> thanks. >> his attorney spoke briefly after the hearing. he also hinted that these charges were just from years ago. i want to play that. >> tough day for mr. manafort
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but he has accepted responsibility and he wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life. he's accepted responsibility and this is for conduct that dates back many years, and everybody should remember that. so thank you everyone. >> so, glen, you have him as well as the people on trump's -- in trump's administration saying, oh, this happened a long time ago, and yet the reality is paul manafort has pled guilty. he also was convicted in his previous trial. he's going back to jail. he is in jail right now until this all plays out, which i wonder is that just a daily reminder from the prosecutor for paul manafort, hey, if you are having any second thoughts, if you are going to hold anything back, if you're not going to tell everything you know, this is where he could spend the rest of his life. >> yes, chris. there are two important takeaways from what we saw develop today. first, let me say with respect to the defense attorney says
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this is from years ago, you need to only look at the paperwork filed in court today. paul manafort pled guilty to criminal conduct that spans from 2006 to 2017 including the time he was then candidate trump's campaign manager. so this years ago dog won't hunt. but the two important takeaways from this, chris, are, one, as ken actually mentioned. manafort pled guilty to only two counts, but those two counts included all of the criminal conduct that was laid out in all seven counts. so what he admitted to the court was that, you know what? mueller got it exactly right. i did all of these things. and then over and above that, he also included -- >> yep. >> -- taking responsibility for his virginia crimes. so this i think puts yet another nail in the witch hunt argument coffin. >> glen, ken, thanks to both of you. much appreciated. let's go back to myrtle beach where ali velshi is standing by.
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what is going on there, ali? >> reporter: it is pretty rough over here. we are starting to get heavy winds and more rain, but i want to go back to north carolina to wilmington. the weather channel's mike seidel is standing by for us. what is going on where you are? you seem to be getting whipped around pretty good, too. >> reporter: ali, we are getting hit pretty hard right now. this is about as strong a band as we have seen outside of the eye wall this morning. these gusts pushing 60 to about 70 miles per hour, jostling us around pretty good. we're in wilmington but right at the bridge, the intracoastal bridge that takes you across to wrightsville beach which was evacuated on wednesday. there's just a few people leftover there and some media, and now we're on the backside of the hurricane, but the hurricane is barely moving. seven hours after landfall we are still getting bands like this. i have never seen this before, only because most hurricanes don't move at four or five miles per hour. we have no steering flow, so this will be an issue not only
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from the surge perspective with another high tide at midnight tonight and noon tomorrow on this side of the intracoastal, also out on the atlantic side and rainfall totals have already added up to over 20 inches in some spots. unfortunately, this storm is now a killer here in wilmington, ali. a tree fell on a home earlier today killing a mom and her infant. the father was transported to the hospital with injuries. so the best thing to do is stay put. power out right now to about 610,000 customers in north carolina and 80,000 and climbing in south carolina. it will be a long several days. even once the winds die down and florence weakens and moves into the appalachians later in the weekend, we will have river flooding that may last into the first or middle part of next week. ali, just when you think it is going to wind down, not with florence. this is uncharted territory because of the slow movement of
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the hurricane as we get rocked pretty good here on the intracoastal here in wilmington, north carolina. ali, back to you. >> reporter: so, mike, what a lot of people hope for is as this thing goes inland it starts to weaken over land as opposed to over water. do you feel this storm is now committed to going inland or is it still bouncing around, maybe heading south? >> reporter: the official hurricane center track is going to keep it inland. right now it is midway between wilmington and myrtle beach, but the european model that came in this morning keeps it closer to the coast and takes it farther south to between myrtle beach and charleston. we will see how it shakes out, but it is such a broad circulation, that's why the winds will stay up. and while it is near the coast it can hold on to some of its energy, but it is a minimal hurricane at 75 miles per hour right now. you wouldn't know it by what we're seeing here in the wilmington/wrightsville beach area. another tough day and we're
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going to be in this kind of wind, or at least wind gusts over 40 miles per hour right on through the day on saturday, and the inland flood threat will increase as you go back towards fayetteville, down towards charlotte, down towards florence, south carolina. ali. >> reporter: thanks very much. we will keep in touch with you and visit with you later. mike seidel in wilmington, north carolina. when we come back, i'm going to visit with the mayor of emerald isle, north carolina. i talked to him earlier. we want the see how things are faring for him. our special team coverage of hurricane florence continues on msnbc. ♪ that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. we've chosen a job so difficult... ...we're going to have to start from scratch. armstrong, we'd like you to command. your dad's going to the moon.
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satellite pictures, until you see this you don't know what it means. hopefully when you see this, you're calling people, you are texting people, or before you see this all you are telling people, hey, this is dangerous, this thing could head to columbus, south carolina, not a tropical storm or a hurricane but it could flood. it is still heading down the coast of south carolina. we're not even seeing anywhere close to the worst of this thing. this is an unusual hurricane in that the path of it is difficult to determine. i want to bring the guy who knows this best into the conversation. al roker. al, this is powerful. it is 75-miles-per-hour winds. it is not 125 like some people thought, but 75-miles-per-hour winds consistently with rain and flooding can cause damage and even death. >> well, we have already seen that, ali, to your point. on the "today" show this morning we had a number of people saying, hey, we went to bed last night and it was counsdowngrade category 1 so we didn't worry about it.
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and then they woke up and were stranded or had damage to their homes. that's the point we have been saying for 72 hours. yes, don't pay attention to the category. we told people when it was a 4 or could be a 5 because it could cause catastrophic structural damage. the winds are still pretty good. we have wind gusts of 64 miles per hour right now in wilmington, 43 in myrtle beach, buoys off the shore at 67 and 67. so we still have a pretty potent storm out here. this is the latest. it is still a category 1 storm that has moved 35 miles west/northwest of wilmington, north carolina. it is moving west at six, but at one point it was three miles per hour. even i could walk faster than that. but we also have to worry about tornados. there is a tornado watch still in effect, and the path right now, at least the good news is it had been going southwest. now it is going west/southwest and that keeps it on shore, on the land. that's good. myrtle beach will be seeing
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tropical force conditions tonight at 8:00. saturday morning, we still have a tropical storm that hits columbia saturday night with 40-miles-per-hour winds and then takes its way up into the ohio river valley and continues through ohio, into pennsylvania by tuesday. wednesday, the northeast of new england will be feeling some of those effects. i want to give a shoutout to the national hurricane center in miami. this is the path they put out for september 9thth. well, take a look at where we actually ended up with landfall. all right. here is the landfall, the observed landfall. it was two-mile difference from the forecasted landfall to where it actually did. that's pretty good. i mean that's really pretty much a bulls eye. we are looking for this evening possibly wind gusts of up to 90 miles per hour for wilmington, 77 in myrtle beach. even raleigh, a 43-miles-per-hour wind gust possible. you add that to the power outages and you've got a real miserable night, and probably next several days it is going to
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be for some places a week or more before they get their power back. the storm surge, again, ali, something we are talking about. seven to 11 feet. you have already gone through a high tide throughout the coastline there. the next one is around midnight to 11:30 this evening. this is the area, the cone from cape fear to cape lookout where we are expecting the problems. rainfall amounts, still we could see totals of about 40 inches of rain. oriental, north carolina picking up 20 inches of rain so far. so there are places that will still see those accumulations, ali. believe me, i have been on a beach before during a hurricane. the good news for you, my friend, is you are getting a free dermabrasion. >> reporter: my skin is feeling so much better already. >> you look magnificent. >> reporter: that's what it feels like. it is those little pinpricks it feels like. let's talk about raleigh, charlotte, columbus. are these places that are going
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to get rain or do they have to worry about flooding? >> columbia is going to have to worry. we have charlotte as it makes its way up. you see heavier rainfall amounts. raleigh is right on the three-to-five-inch rain and some areas could overproduce and end up towards the seven-inch range. i think we will have windy conditions. we will have heavy rain. as you know, ali, this area has already been saturated and inundated so there's nowhere for a lot of the rain to go. so i wouldn't be surprised to see some flash flooding and maybe flash flood watches posted as well. you know, again, you don't need to have a declared tropical system to have problems. >> right. all right, al. thanks a million for that. al roker for us in new york. let's go to eddie barber, the mayor of emerald isle, north carolina. he and i have been in touch. mayor, what are things looking like on emerald isle? >> thanks, ali.
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we have no electricity. we have really the storm surge is really bad on the ocean side. we have significant sound-side flooding. the island is still closed and we have a 24-hour curfew going on. we've had wind gusts last night to 85 or 90 miles an hour, but the main thing was the storm surge on the sound-side flooding. we have no electricity on the island. it may be a week or two weeks before we get electricity back. we're just not certain at this time. but it is hard to believe a category 1. we all worry about these 1s, 2, 3, 4, 5, but a 1 can pack a punch, too. >> that's right. if you are talking about a 4 or 5, are you talking major structural damages to buildings that would otherwise be fine. but when you are talking about a 1 or a 2 or a 3, you are still talking about that flood damage. you also have a structural issue to consider that a lot of people do on the north carolina coast, and that is bridges, bridges
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that get you to the main land, bridges that get you to other places. you haven't had a chance to check out your bridge, have you? >> yes, i went across the bridge this morning. it is fine, but the bridge is closed for incoming traffic though. we are a barrier island and with the bridge fine right now. so we're fortunate about that. but a category 1 can be a tough storm, too. the storm surge is really, really bad on this storm. >> reporter: yeah. all right. you and i, i told you that we will stay in touch. we will continue to do that. mayor eddie barber of emerald isle, north carolina. we do -- i'm just getting news of a fourth confirmed death as a result of this hurricane. this is deadly. don't let the category 1 fool you. we now have a fourth confirmed death. as soon as i have more details on that, i want to bring it to you. someone else who i spoke to just a few days ago is the mayor of myrtle beach, brenda bethune. we were talking about the
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preparations a few days ago for that. mayor, now we're in it. now we're in it, and as al said, it is going to get worse by tonight. we're going to feel more of the effect. i'm standing here on the beach. feels like 65-miles-per-hour gusts to me. it is going to get worse. how are things looking for? >> it is looking pretty sense right now. we do have some pretty strong wind gusts, 75 to 80 miles per hour. the one thing i can say about florence is that she requires a lot of patience. we have been waiting for days. now that she's here we are waiting more. >> reporter: how did you succeed? you and i were talking about the degree to which you were encouraging people who were in low-lying areas or in vulnerable places to leave. what is your sense of how many people are here and in need of help or will be in the next 24 hours? >> we don't have a number yet because people have literally been lost in their houses, and those who evacuated cannot get
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back. if we don't have a hard number as to how many are here. what we do know is that as it stands right now we have over 7,500 people without electricity and we don't know when that will be cut back on. we have not been able to do an assessment of our roads and our bridges, and what we're worried about at this point is the flooding situation. that can be in a matter of four to five days before things crest, so we really don't know what the true impact of the flooding is going to be really across our entire state. >> reporter: yeah. when you say 7,500 people without power, the state -- the reported numbers right now are about 80,000. so you have almost 9% or 10% of the state's average are out. we will probably see more than that because we've seen downed pow irlines and transformer explosions. i guess you are getting reports
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of that? >> we are. our focus is for preparing after the form, getting our crews out as soon as possible to do a safety assessment of our roads, of the bridges, of the community, and especially getting our police out to secure the city and make sure it is safe. we have businesses and homes that don't have people in them, and our main concern is looting and crime, and we're fortunate to have over 800 security cameras throughout the state that are -- throughout the city, i'm sorry -- that are currently working. so if you're here to cause a crime or loot, you will get caught in myrtle beach. >> reporter: and i just saw one of your myrtle beach patrol cars driving by ocean boulevard. mayor, good to talk to you again. stay safe. you and i will stay in touch. mayor brenda bethune of myrtle beach. we will take a quick break. when we come back there's another major, major story we are following in addition to hurricane florence, and that is the plea deal, the deal for
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cooperation with paul manafort. we'll come back and bring you the latest on that. you are watching coverage of hurricane florence on smng. covf hurricane florence on smng countries that we traveled- "what is your nationality?" and i would always answer, "hispanic." so, when i got my ancestrydna results it was a shocker! i'm everything, i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder, what do i mark? because i'm everything. and i marked "other". discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at
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manafort has nothing to do with our campaign, but i feel --
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i tell you, i feel a little badly about it. they went back 12 years to get things he did 12 years ago. you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. he worked for ronald reagan, he worked for bob dole, he worked for john mccain, or his firm did, he worked for many other republicans. he worked for me, what, for 49 days or something? >> reporter: you say that you feel badly. is there any consideration at any point of a pardon for any the people -- >> i don't want to talk about that. no, i don't want to talk about that. >> that was the president back in june, but today paul manafort agreed to cooperate fully with the special counsel's office. so what does it mean for the investigation and what could it mean for the president who, by the way, still hasn't tweeted about it? i'm joined by jill winebank, peter baker is chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." jill, let me put it bluntly. how big a threat does paul manafort pose to the president? >> of course, it is impossible to know until we actually see what he tells the prosecutors,
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but potentially it is big. we know that he was at the june meeting in trump tower, and that's been a very key point of evidence. we know that he got the change in the platform for the republican party that favored ukraine, which -- or favored russia over ukraine, so that is something that was a quid pro quo. he was working for free in order to help ukraine, and the russian -- pro russian government in ukraine. >> doesn't that mean though, jill, how much do you think is out there potentially that paul manafort knows that we don't know about and does robert mueller know everything that he's getting from him? >> he won't know everything yet, although i would assume the traditional practice would be for him to have made a proffer of evidence, that is for manafort to have said this is what i can tell you in exchange
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for your accepting only two counts of a guilty plea. now, the guilty plea does layout enormous detail, evidence. he's also for fitting a lot of property. he's forfeitting millions of dollars. i think the government will have made money on accepting this plea compared to what it cost to bring the case against manafort. it is all good in terms of the government. they probably have a pretty good idea of what he can tell them. i think it has to go well beyond anything that has to do with the plea agreement itself or the crimes in the plea agreement. it has to be related -- >> so probably is going to tell us. >> -- related to -- >> time will tell you what paul manafort has to offer. peter, one of your colleagues at "the times" described it as an unsettling development as a front page story for the president. we know how he reacted to
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cohen's plea deal. are you hearing anything from people around him today? it is hard to imagine donald trump isn't maybe a little shocked given the many times that paul manafort suggested he would never flip and upset given those many statements as well? >> that's exactly right. he praised paul manafort for standing strong against the pressure from the prosecutors to flip. flippers are bad, he said. paul manafort was good for the fact that he had not. now paul manafort has, in fact, flipped. he is going to tell the prosecutors what he knows. as jill says, we don't know exactly what that's going to be but it has to be an unsettling moment nor the president. all along he said he doesn't want people talking to the prosecutors and spilling secrets. we just don't know what those secrets are yet. paul manafort was the chairman of this campaign, not just there for 49 days as he said in the clip you played there, for five months. the fact he was hired knowing his background for a pro russian, you know, lobbying effort raises all sorts of questions. why was he, of all people, chosen to be the campaign
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chairman? what did he do while he was there? he offered briefings to a russian oligarch that he was in debt to. there's all sorts of questions, no doubt, robert mueller would like now that he's got cooperation. >> we haven't seen the president today but he's canceled rallies because of the hurricane. maybe stuck at the white house because of the weather. it's not looking like it may be golf weather this weekend. so we'll see if he stays quiet. peter baker, jill, thanks to you as well. we'll get back to our special coverage of hurricane florence as it batters the carolinas. and we know now it's turned deadly. just look at this flooded neighborhood in jacksonville, north carolina. some dogs were rescued, by the way. that's another thing going on here. not just people but also animals that are being rescued. we'll go back to ali velshi in myrtle beach, south carolina. you're watching msnbc. ♪ ♪ i'm going to be your substitute teacher. don't assume the substitute teacher has nothing to offer...
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all right. our team coverage of hurricane florence continues. i'm ali velshi in myrtle beach. we've just heard from the white house about hurricane florence. we have heard about hurricane florence. the president will travel to the affected areas next week. that's going to happen next week. that's all the detail we have now. we'll let you know as we have mo more. not that they're looking for advice from me but don't show up
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and toss paper towels. a number of the rescues we've seen today, over 6,500 national guard troops activated between north carolina and south carolina. but there are military standing by to assist in the recovery after this hurricane passes. i want to go to camp lejeune where hans nichols is standing by with their preparations. hans? >> ali, we've been hunkered down with the marines. they've been here for 77 years. they weren't going to leave because of this storm. they wanted to be in a position to help with the recovery as soon as there is the relief efforts started. they haven't gotten those orders. it's interesting that president trump may be coming down to this region next week. what they are waiting for here is what they call tasking. that is that someone from fema, someone makes the request that goes up the chain of command and comes down the chain of command. they have all kinds of assets at the ready. you can see some of the devastation. the only vehicles that are technically allowed to be driving around this military
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installations are vehicles delivering fuel because the power is out here. they need the fuel for generators to stay in touch with each other to have good communications internally and with the ships at sea. we didn't break that rule but bent it a little and drove around and got a sense of how much devastation there is on this base. trees are down every other block. you see all kinds of debris that's going to need to be removed. that's important because before the marines can get out and help other people, they'll need to make sure this base is ready and functioning. that's why they stayed here for the duration. that's why they wanted to make sure that they were able to be in a position to start helping immediately. now there are two important caveats to that. namely, the "uss arlington," two big ships off the coast. just a little south of the storm. they can head in at any moment and start rendering assistance. 800 marines are ready to go.wat
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this rescue continues. i want to go to the commanding officer for the u.s. coast guard, charleston sector. good to talk to you again. when we lost talked it was not entirely clear where this hurricane was going. but tell me what activities the coast guard is taking now. >> thank you, ali. as you mentioned, the -- with the changes in the forecasted weather, the forecast track of the storm, we've actually started to reposition assets closer to the impacted area moving search and rescue capabilities back toward georgetown, as well as repositioning those shallow water rescue teams from georgia into south carolina this evening. and we'll be standing by ready to make the rescues happen as soon as possible. also, we've repositioned aircraft from air stations clearwater and miami up to air station savannah. those air crews are taking familiarization flights right
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now up into south carolina to get those crews ready to respond as needed. >> what's the main work you'll be doing? is it logistic support or rescues? >> ali, based on what we heard from the state which is historic levels of flooding, i anticipate that the majority of our work will be involved in life-saving missions. saving people from flooded areas as well as responding to any environmental issues we have in the overswollen rivers. >> all right. we're going to be watching very closely. thank you in advance for the work that we know you do every time we cover one of these hurricanes. we know the men and women of the coast guard, the national guard and the active military are always the ones we count on for that support. john reed is the commanding officer for the u.s. coast guard charleston sector. we'll be talking again. here's our situation. here in myrtle beach, we have not seen the worst of this.
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it's probably not going to happen until 8:00 tonight or even later. it's also going to depend on the path the storm takes. as of right now it's headed largely our way. maybe a little bit northwest of where we are. but this storm remains unsteady so it could hug the coast and continue to do more damage down this way and down the way to charleston which is over there. or it starts heading inland and we'll see those effects. the flood, the storm surge, the extra rain and these consistent and continuous winds. right now we're looking at winds that are upward of 70, 75 miles an hour here in this hurricane. and we're starting to feel gusts like that right here in myrtle beach, south carolina. i'm going to stay here. i'll be here joining you for much of the rest of the evening and overnight and into tomorrow. but our team coverage continues here along the carolina coast in south carolina and north carolina of hurricane florence. time now for me to hand it over
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to "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace. >> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. it's a blockbuster day of news. and we're going to bring it all to you. hurricane florence is pounding north carolina with rain and devastating floods. it's a slow-moving soaker that still threatens homes and lives in that state and beyond. we'll bring you the latest. but we start with that jaw-dropping breaking news from donald trump's one-time campaign chairman paul manafort who today uttered the words, i plead guilty, and became the latest trump confidante to join team mueller as a cooperating witness in the special counsel investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 election. what this means for that investigation, robert mueller now has eyes and ears inside that trump tower meeting and any other coordination or communication between the trump campaign, the president's family members and the


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