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flints all over this country. i'll be in flint to make sure of that this afternoon, hat i do my part. that does it for me. thanks for watching. now to my colleague. safe travels. thank you. i appreciate it. at world headquarters in new york, alex witt is off today. it's 9:00 in the east, 6:00 outwest, and here's what's happening, in the carolinas an epic weather event. >> just absolute total destruction. >> it was horrifying. just wondering how high it's going to go and how we're going to get out. >> the latest in live reports. manafort fal out. is the one time trump campaign chairman's plea the time piece of robert mueller's puzzle, and what would that mean for the president and his family. and balance of power. a new poll suggests a tighter
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than expected battle for control of the senate. we're going to go through it race by race poll by poll next on msnbc live. right now it's a growing catastrophe. more than 50 towns and cities from south carolina to virginia are now under flood waters with more than 30 inches of rain recorded and much more on the way. submerged roads around the state are closed including i-95 in carolina. officials are warning residents to stay home. water rescuers are under way right now. there have been more than 400 of them in the town of new bern alone. coast guard plucking flood vo victims. >> this is terrible. this is worst i've ever seen. i'm scared, i was scared.
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>> more than 13,000 military personnel are actively involved in the rescue efforts. the death toll from florence is now at 14. and warnings from flash floods, and land slides remain in effect. officials are keeping a close eye on the mouth of the cape fear river. i know you were concerned about the samford dams. what's the latest there? >> reporter: david, good morning. we reported the news on your show last night. the dam was about to break. well, it gave way ability five hours ago. we tried to reach it this morning but it was just impossible to get through because of the flood roads that you were talking about. so we made our way to south port here in north carolina, a couple of miles where that dam is. and you can just see the extent of the damage to these waterfront restaurants here.
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this is the intercoastal waterway behind me. we have also been stuck in these outer bands and relentless rain. even though you tapered off now, you just never know when you'll get stuck in these bands of rain that can lost from a half-hour to a couple of hour. over here you can see the damage caused to this business. i want to go to paul over here, this business owner. can you describe what this scene would look like normally and what his storm has done? >> normally you would seating over here for our restaurant and seating over here. >> all of this came from where? >> it came from the docks to the left of us here. and the storm is so relentless, it kept on pounding and pounding away. >> what's your concern right now? the rain has not stopped. >> getting back open, that's a concern. we'll get to work first thing monday morning, we'll hit it, get back open.
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>> good luck to you, sir. david, that is seizure said than done because i've been on the phone with the police department in this area as well as at the dam over there, and they say if it continues they can't even do their assessment. and people are worried about the bottom line. they want to get back on their feet. and this is the recovery and cleanup they want to look at here in north carolina. >> i want to head to jacksonville, north carolina, to nbc's joe friar. what's the situation where you are? i understand the flood level there on the new river was 14 feet last night and crested 19 feet. what's the latest from jacksonville? >> that's right. that is the flood river here. it went at least 5 feet over and the river gauge actually failed. so we don't know how high it actually got past flood level. we were here 24 hours ago and the water was much higher, so
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things are starting to go down in this neighborhood. but you can see here the street is still flooded and some basements here at least are under water. yesterday in the morning around 6:00 people woke up and said this was a neighborhood that had never flooded before and then they started to see water in their basements and quickly rose. catching people off-guard. in fact one family had to hop in their dinghy in their backyard to try to get to safer ground. and it didn't take long for volunteers to ascend and bring people to safety. at one point we saw people walking around here and it was about chest deep. the official total as of last night was around 18 inches of rain from the storm and no doubt in isolated areas they got more than that. in a subdivision about 20 to 30
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people needed to be rescued from a coast guard helicopter. the good news in some neighborhoods at least here is the rain hasn't been as bad as it's been in the past 60, 67 hours. we started to see little glimpses of a return to normalcy. we saw a gas station with people lining up to fuel up. something they haven't been able to do for several days here. and we even saw what appeared to be one restaurant open with power. >> you saw a few folks there, vivid images of folks trying to escape in a dinghy. are folks expecting to come back? >> we haven't seen that, but we're expecting some of the folks that lived around here that had to escape are going to make their way back this morning. and we're going to check a few other neighborhood to see if the
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water is low enough. it's certainly pretty my so certainly officials are not going to recommend people going back until the water is lower. we know some people we spoke with yesterday that anything on a lower level is lost. whether furniture or electronics they tell us they know those things are lost, they hope it doesn't get much higher. >> president trump will visit the carolinas some time this week, but in the meantime, the president tweeting last night, quote, while my, in parentheses there, our, poll numbers were good, the with the economy being the best ever, if it weren't for a the igared russian witch hunt, they would be 25 points higher. the president includes that tweet, no collusion. the white house dealing it fall
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out of a decades sexual misconduct allegation against brett kavanaugh. new allegations against one of the democrats that grilled him during the hearing. >> not only about his believes, it's the fact he's been an operative, a political operative. twice in a public opinion he used the term racial spoil system. there was a one immigrant woman 17 years old who went through every step that the law acquired her to go through to obtain an abortion and yet he called it an abortion on demand because those that would deprive women about the ability to make decisions about their own body would try to suggest it's like tv on demand, you just click a button and you get it. >> i want to bringen a political reporter for the boston globe and, let me start with you. you heard what the junior
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senator had to say there. now weave the inclusion in this judge's file of the allegation made against him when he was a high school student. where do things stand for the confirmation vote on thursday? >> i think this allegation has just poured fuel on the fire over democrat's anger over kavanaugh's nomination in general. they're still angry about mayor garlands being blocked a few years ago. they're saying this is the same case. why do this now? so they already felt steam rolled and now this 11th hour allegation of attempted sexual assault from an anonymous woman back in the 1980s. because senator feinstein is taking heat for not releasing these allegations earlier, she
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had a letter with them and kept them private. but it seems feinstein's calculus was this allegation wasn't solid enough because the woman didn't want to come forward to be used in his hearing, and it seems maybe senator harris agrees and she continues to focus on kavanaugh's beliefs, his past as a political operative and she's not really pushing this, which i thought was interesting. >> he said i categorically and unequivocally deny this allegation, i did not do this back in high school or at any time. >> there's been a lot of criticism about how rushed this process has been especially from democrats. you look back on neil gorsuch's hearing, the clarence thomas hearing, things came to light after the public hearing concluded and there was more of a delay than we're seeing here today. >> i am skeptical there will be a delay unless there's more information that comes to light.
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right now the senate judiciary committee is scheduled to vote on kavanaugh and get him out of the committee and onto the senate floor on thursday. i think it's difficult when we have charges that are one decades old and two the accuser want to remain anonymous. if more facts come out in the next few days and i know reporters certainly are working hard to get them, then we may know more and republicans may be in a position where they have to just hold off. but i think barring any big revelation, they're going to try to just rush this through, push the through, give this to their base before the mid-terms and really make sure they secure this because as you've said, republicans might lose the senate in the mid-terms, and so they really want to get this through. >> i want to turn back to the storm, the damage we're seeing across the carolinas. president trump is expected to
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travel there to see how the recovery efforts are going. we're approaching this one year anniversary mark for hurricane maria. it seems evident as you look at the president's tweets, something he's thinking about as well. what's the president thinking as he approaches this disaster having been through the last one, having received the criticism that he did for having handled the hurricane in puerto rico? >> i think president trump is obviously making a big effort to show that he was on top of the storm. his twitter feed until today was covered in, you know, warnings about hurricane florence and very focused on hurricane florence. though, sort of typically he wasn't able to stop himself complaining about the coverage he got for hurricane maria. he's, you know, sort of ranting about a study that says many more thousands of people died, many more people than were initially koumted becau
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initially counted because of after effects of the storm. he calls that fake news and rails against that. and even some of his formered advisers have said they wish he would focus on florence, show more empathy, that some of these tweets make it seem he cares more about his own image than thousands of people who died. >> on that point we're just two months away from the mid-term elections and how they're approaching both those things as they hit their home districts, how big an issue is this, the president as we approach the mid-terms? again, the economy doing pretty well by most indicators here. a lot of republicans frustrated by the president still. >> yeah, i think president trump is the issue here. i think there's an argument that if he was just a little bit quieter, if he wasn't stirring up controversy, if he wasn't bringing everyone's attention to the mueller investigation all the time, if he was pushing the economy and how good it is, if
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he say just sort of on that message and calm, he would really give those republican voters who might be disenchanted of him, those suburban women for example, he'll give them a chance to turn out and vote for him. >> i want to ask you about paul manafort's plea on friday, the time we have left here. we're going to dig into the legal side when we get back from the break. let's talk about the politics of it, but you have paul manafort making this plea. he's going to lose a lot of his properties. his brown stone in brooklyn, and the one in hampton as well to the tune of $2 million. it's been rather muted thus far, and we did get a statement from sarah huckabee sanders. it is totally unrelated. how do you expect the president of the white house is going to play this as we get into a new
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week? >> yeah, i think this is terrible news for the white house. it was a bombshell. sometimes when the president is quiet for a few days is when you get a sense of something's really a shock to them and someone's holding his twitter feed from them. and i think there's no way to spin this. you know, his campaign chair is cooperating with mueller on a probe that really strikes at the heart of his presidency. it's a huge risk for him, and it doesn't -- it kind of works against the white house's argument this has nothing to do with russia. because even though the charges don't, he's now cooperating on the russia probe. so i think it's terrible news for them. >> thank you for your time on this sunday morning. and in just a moment here why manafort's cooperation could mean the end of the russian probe in sight. what that would mean for president trump.
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welcome back. new insights this morning into why paul manafort may signal robert mueller is nearing the end of his investigation. there's an article "the washington post" entitled robert mueller's real divest here is for truth. how paul manafort's plea brings the special counsel probe closer to its end game. it breaks down how the special counsel came closer to the president and the final end
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game. cynthia, a line that stood out to me in this piece is on friday they write where the special counsel finally nab the big whale. how important is this plea? >> it's very important. it's a huge white whale. it's going to be interesting now between this period and now and the mid-terms when the mueller team has tried to go underground and tried to be quiet, and they have the time to interview manafort. i don't think people realize the interview process is going to be different now. he's not going to be surrounded by lawyers and change clothes into a fancy suit and have his hair die. he'll be in an orange suit, probably 5:00 in the morning, 6:00 in the morning when there's no press, and teams of agents, counter intelligence agents will come and interview hem and that will be without lawyers. and that's going to happen for
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the next couple of weeks until he's completely debriefed and rock solid. >> conversations have been going on for a few day heres. there was a proffer session he was given some indication of what he has of information he could provide. for the record it took 25 minutes for it to be read i gather from its entirety. >>tist interesting the proffer session was exceedingly long. usually you just put in basically mutt you need to do to make the facts, but this went on forever about every single thing including all the underlying facts in the virginia case and the d.c. case in which he not only had to say yes, i'm guilty, but they filed a piece of paper where he had to sign every piece of paper on what he did. attached to that is something interesting, and that's memo he wrote to the ukrainians about what he was doing for their lobbying. and it's interesting, he's kind of a kiss-up kind of guy when
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he's working with his boss. that may turn out to be fascinating because he was in the june meeting with the russian and with don junior, and that's so critical we're all interested in. it's hard to believe after you read these memos, which i invite your viewers to read, they're all online, that he isn't the type of guy that would tell his boss, look, look, i'm going to bring in these memos or look, look, i know about these memos. what we're looking for is to find out whether trump knew that meeting was going to happen before or after. and probably mueller already knows. >> we have been focused on what's known as a pardon dangle, the prospects for a pardon for manafort, and we were just days from the start of another trial in washington, d.c. something fascinating in this "the washington post" piece is the defense joint agreement that
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manafort had with the president's personal lawyers. there was an interview where he praised manafort in virginia for not being a flipper. what's your sense of that agreement? >> the joint defense agreement is null and void. what's interesting about it as late as friday giuliani was saying there was a joint defense agreement. that was kind of odd because he was in the at or near's office on tuesday spilling the beans. so that either means the joint defense agreement was -- or something happened in there that we're going to find out now. first of all joint defense agreements are supposed to be secret and he was talking about it. and second of all somebody had to make that phone call to je l
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giuliani, hello, the joint defense agreement is off. there's obviously a radical change from the time he thought he had a joint defense agreement and then he's going to plead to an indictment. >> there was a filing this week going back to the watergate era. ben wit s of the brooklyn institution is a legal analyst for here. >> very smart. >> chat goldsmith, a harvard law p professor filed this asking for the watergate records to be released publicly. we don't know what the end game looks like. who's going to be able to see it, whether it goes to rod rosenstein to the judiciary committee. what's your sense of what's going to happen when all is said and done? >> well, a couple of things we know about mueller. first of all, he's a very conservative person. i worked with him a long time
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ago in the united states attorney's office when i was young. he's a conservative person and not someone who pushes the envelope when it comes to rules and regulation. so i think that would mean he goes directly to rosenstein. and secondly they're filing speaking indictments, which means they're filing indictments that include a lot of information so that it can't be hidden. i would expect that's the route it goes. he files a report are rosenstein and then additional documents attached like the one that went to manafort. the wittis argument is interesting, he filed this report arb where a smart guy, and we should get the watergate reports so it can be a blue precipitate for what manafort is going to do. i think it's interesting, i think we should have the information but mueller doesn't need it. he will handle this in an
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new today the mid-term elections are only 51 days away and fresh polling shows many races are beginning to tighten. president trump and president obama have vowed to hit the campaign trail, but who is going to come out on top? joining me now to discuss is democratic pollster fred yang. and you're looking at how narrow, when you look at how that generic ballot has become, what's your best estimation that dems are going to be able to take back the house and the senate? >> i think all indications are the democrats have enough momentum and energy, and pormly vulnerable republican incumbents to take back the house. i think really the big, you know, excitement on election night will be how democrats do in some of the states with very competitive senate races in which president trump won big margins in 2016 -- north dakota,
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missouri, indiana, tennessee. if, and if is always a big if -- if the elections were held today and president trump's numbers are where they are nationally democrats stand a good chance of taking back the senate in november. >> he's been back on the campaign trail. we've seen him in illinois, in california as well. how's that translating when you look at the polling data? >> look, i think the number one objective for both parties in a mid-term election -- actually, three objectives. turnout, turnout turnout. president obama still a very popular figure with democrats. democrats didn't do well on the 14 and 10 mid-terms because of turnout. democrats are energized. it's sort of always a cliché. we have the votes to win elections in negative. we just have to turn out. and i think that's all really
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positive for democrats. >> let's talk a bit about texas, first of all, if we could. a lot of attention focused on the lone star state. you've got senator cruz seeking re-election and up against republican o'rourke. how likely is it he'll be able to pull this one off? >> i think in 2018 if you're on outsider, if you're not part of washington, you have an advantage. i think senator cruz is incumbent, he's in washington, he's the establishment. texas is a very tough state for democrats, but it's becoming increasingly competitive. look, i think the cruz and o'rourke race are one of the several races we're looking at saying we know republicans aren't happen in washington, i think that's a case study of will that happen in november. >> let's turn to that state now,
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senator joe donnelly cruising around for re-election there. if you look at the latest fox news polling from september 8th through the 11th he has 43%. and mike braun has 45%. >> i think he faces the challenges that strong democrats face in states that frankly president trump carried strongly in 2016. indiana is a republican state. they've elected republicans. but senator donnelly is a strong candidate. he not only is a senator now, he representatived a very republican area of indiana before he got to the u.s. senate. he's gotten the republican votes he need to win elections. look, indiana and texas and some others states will be the bellwethers. >> let's go to another state
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where an incumbent seems to be facing difficulty and that's in north dakota. she's somebody who enjoyed some favor of the president here for these last many months. what are the challenges of her candidacy, her re-election here, trying to appeal to republicans who may have voted for him back in 2016. >> i think she faces challenges a lot of democrats face in these red slash states. the challenge for our democrats in 2018 are these are also states obviously president trump carried by big margins in 2016. again, going back a couple of questions ago, it's about turnout, turnout, turnout. even in these red states we are seeing democrats are more
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enthused than republicans. look, as we know polls go up and down. all i know from other polls i'm seeing is each of these democrats are locked in very competitive races. we have seven weeks to go. again, a lot of what will determine these races is where president trump stands. and if he continues this trajectory i think democrats will win these states in november. >> tennessee, of course, martial black ber blackburn, your expectations for those states, arizona and tennessee? >> again, very strong competitive democrats. congresswoman sinema in arizona and marsha blackburn and, i think 2018 will we a year in
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which voters actually in 2016 are sending a message against the establishment in washington. i think in 2018 the establishment our republicans in washington and i think that's the advantage the democrats have in all these races. >> fred, thank you very much. a democratic pollster joining me from washington this morning. a new book enumerates 100 reasons why trump must go, but it also includes one big reason to kim him in office. the author of that book, bill press, is going to join me next. . minor accident - no big deal, right? wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different insurance company. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪
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this just in, new reaction from congress on just how significant paul manafort's plea deal could end up being. here's what democratic congressman adam schiff, the ranking member of the house committee told chuck todd just moments ago. >> this sends a message to anyone who's in bob mueller's cross hairs right now, you better get to the special counsel and make your deal now. because anyone who gets indicted by bob mueller goes down. and the longer you wait to come clean, the worst deal you're going to get, the more time you're going to face. so i think it obviated the need for these trials and gave him a key cooperating witness who's already seen what happens when you mess with bob mueller. he tried to essentially tamper with witnesses, he got caught, he went to jail.
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he better come clean. >> joining me now is bill press a nationally syndicated radio host and author of the new book "trump must go, the 100 reasons to duchl trump and one to keep him." . you've been in washington for a long while. give me the historical import of what happened in washington? >> i think this a game changer. i mean, this is bad news for donald trump, and it's a big deal. i mean think about it, now you have michael cohen, george papadopoulos, michael flynn, rick gates and paul manafort who have reached plea deals with robert mueller, and manafort himself has of course been convicted on eight counts. i think it shows what an immovable force mueller is, how he's close 'ing. and think about who's left,
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donald trump, jr., roger stone, and donald trump himself. so i think we're seeing maybe the beginning of the mueller deal and he's closing in on the oval office. >> you're no stranger to the treacherous terrain that is washington, and when we look at what we saw on friday, it says an awful lot about how crooked some of those relationships can be when it comes to lobbying, when it comes to information and disinformation. what happens as a result of this to the lobbying industry in washington, d.c.? >> well, i would hope there would be some correction, of course, david. it is sad to see how you walk into washington with a little bit of money, you can get things done. you walk into washington with as much money as paul manafort has from these russian oligarchs and he was even able to get good democratic firms play along with him. it says terrible things about the lobbying force and i think
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the reality of washington, d.c. frankly, i don't think it's going to change all that much. it never has. but what i think also is significant here is that there was this defense agreement between paul manafort and the trump lawyers. they were talking comparing notes how to deal with robert mueller. all of its assuming that paul manafort was not going to flip, which donald trump praised him for. and now that's meaningless right now. and you wonder what they talked about and did they discuss a possible pardon by donald trump or paul manafort. if they did, that is obstruction of justice and nobody knows about possible collusion than paul manafort. he brought the russians in with him. >> let's turn to the book now. back in 2004 you wrote a book called bush must go. so why write this?
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>> i believe in subtle titles, david. here is the deal on this, i see it with all humility as a companion to the woodward book. bob woodward's book documents the disarray in the white house. what i've tried to do here is document the damage donald trump has already done in 18 months. damage on the domestic front, damage on the foreign front. and when thomas jefferson wrote the declaration of independence about throwing off one tyrant he said -- these are his words, let the facts be submitted to a canned dud worl candid world. >> you've got unfitness in there, russia connections, he's sexist, he's racist, steve bannon is number 65. when you look at all of these what do you think the public is
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going to be most sympathetic to. >> first of all, i would hope there would be more attention to his policies. that's what i try to focus on. the environment, immigration, the judges on the foreign policy cruising up to all these dictators, tracking the paris accords, trashing the iran nuclear deal. but i think in the end what the american people will be most concerned about is how donald trump has disgraced the presidency, just by the lack of respect he's brought to the oval office. i mean a president of the united states calling women dogs, attacking his political enemies, constantly lying on twitter all the time, i think that's what people -- they want to be able to respect the presidency whether it's a republican or a democratic, and there's no way you can respect the presidency of donald trump, in my opinion. >> i've got to ask you what that one reason is, but you've got that one reason here. what is it, bill? >> well, i could say because he's so good for ratings for people like me and you, david.
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you could say he's good for democrats because he's encouraged a lot of democrats to run. i think the one reason is mike pence, that mike pence because he's sort of a washington insider dd be mo insider could be more effective and more dangerous than donald trump. >> the top 100 reasons to dump trump and the reason to keep him. up ahead on "a.m. joy," california congresswoman maxine waters.
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welcome back. i want to flag a new article highlighting growing concerns on the right about president trump's effect on republican prospects in the midterm elections. "the new york times" reporting this morning on the tensions between the white house and congressional republicans over their political difficulties, saying, quote, republican leaders do agree on one surprising element in the battle for congress. they cannot rely on the booming economy to win over undecided voters. let me start with you. i'll put up some polling here
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first. democrats with 52%. republicans with 38%. in that piece, congressman tom cole is quoted as saying this is a referendum on the president. >> i think the biggest concern right now, david, is to hope that the president doesn't do anything policy-wise or with a comment that could potentially benefit democrats. what i mean by that is doing something that will further increase the enthusiasm on that side. if you read through that article, it goes through the fact that republicans are now preparing to shift money from some of the more vulnerable candidates to republicans who they actually believe can win. what that does indicate is, number one, donors are tightening who they are giving to. and number two, republicans by and large realize we are likely going to lose this thing, but let's try to make sure we don't lose by such a large enough
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margin where it could become problematic for us in the base in the senate side. >> you have to be happy about this. i mean, you look at the economy. we can talk about the real facts here. this economic growth began under president obama. but the fact that you have got republican -- strike that guio >> mitch mcconnell has found ways to keep democrats in session through -- deep into october to just keep them from campaigning. if you look at all of the primarying. we just had one in new york a few days ago. you see record turnout, greater turnout that you may have seen in decades in some places. that's certainly very encouraging. i would add another piece. there is all this talk about democratic socialsocialism. i reject that a little bit. what i like to look at is the fact that you have new
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coalitions of democrats being built. i think our candidates are reflecting that. that is also a very promising sign because it means we are engaging new voters or voters that, you know, had lapsed over the last few cycles. when you add, i think, all of which you discussed in the beginning, which is the trump tweets and we hope that even in engaging democrats in this electorate we can also bring back a lot of independents that took a chance on donald trump but giving us another look. >> if i can comment really quickly. >> yes, please. >> i do think the whole concept of democratic socialism is something that the democratic party establishment is indeed concerned with. if you look at some of the comments from nancy pelosi, a recent speech or two from president obama where he referenced this. their concern doesn't resonate with middle america or many folks in the south. i think this knew phenomenon may
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do well on the east coast or the west coast. but i think it is something that a lot of voters in the middle aren't necessarily sold on just yet. >> we're focussed on 2018. and president trump is front and center, even though he's not on the ballot in that election. you can have democrats running on that now as we approach that midterm. how incumbent is it upon democrats to refine for 2020. can they run on the same message, anti-trump in 2020? >> i don't think being anti-tru anti-trump. we have to be a lot more pro voter, pro economy and that's something that i know republicans have tried to sort of craft a narrative around that for the midterms. but i do think that's something that we can actually be successful with in 2020. to go back to this democratic socialism piece, i think that works in certain districts, but not all. we don't have a candidate that's
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going to aggregate all of those policies yet for 2020. that is yet to be seen. but i do think if we focus on the economy, because there is still so many voters that ten years after the financial collapse haven't seen any gains, and that's concerning. i think that's why donald trump won in large measure in 2016. but that's a way that -- that's an opening we have for 2020. >> are we going to get to a point where republicans actually distance themselves from this president? you look at the tweets from puerto rico and you had lawmakers criticizing him. you have seen that. senate ben sass will come back and push against the president. how about actually moving away from the president and throwing their support behind another candidate. >> you know, i had a conversation with a colleague of mine yesterday, david. and i don't think you are going to see republicans back away from the president unless you begin to see a huge decrease in support with registered
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republican voters. let's keep in mind he still has over 80% approval. the only president with higher approval at this point in their presidency was george w. bush after 9/11. i think a lot of economists -- something we will have to start worrying about in a year or so with the recession. if that occurs, if the numbers start to shift, then i think republicans will look at the president and say maybe it is possible for someone else to run to primary him in 2020, but i don't predict that's going to happen. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, david. >> coming up next hour on a.m. joy, maxine waters will comment on the sexual allegations against nominee brett kavanaugh. can be relentless.
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