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katie who picks up coverage in atlanta, georgia. it's 11:00 p.m. out west. 2:00 p.m. here in georgia. georgia is on our mind. it's where history could be made on tuesday. voters in this state could elect its first female african-american governor. right now stacy abrams and her opponent are locked in a dead heat and we're not exaggerating. it's a matter of decimal points. we enter the final stretch of the 2018 midterms, many of the contests that will decide who controls congress are extremely tight. the face off we'll see today is one people will not necessarily or they won't have chance to vote on. it pits the current president against his predecessor. obama versus trump. while neither is on the ballot this november, the former and current presidents are criss
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crossing the country ahead of what might be the most important midterms in modern political history. in moments president obama will rally voters in florida on behalf of andrew gillum and bill nelson. gillum who is polling just slightly ahead of his republican opponent could become the first democrat to win the florida governor's mansion in two decades. this hour, president trump will leave the white house for west virginia where he's going to appear later today for gop senate candidate patrick morrisey. two presidents. two very different messages. >> what we have not seen before in our public life is politicians just blatantly, repeatedly, baldly, shamelessly lying. just making stuff up.
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calling black white. >> the democrat agenda is the agenda of the extreme far left. they've gone crazy, folks. they've gone totally loco. they dismissed and demonize anyone who questions their radical ideas. >> the big question we're asked today is in 2018 who inspires more voters? president obama or president trump. our road warriors are fanned out across the country as they have been all week. from obama's event in miami, florida maryann otensa and capitca capitol hill reporter, kasie hunt.
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president obama will show up down there to rally for an drdr gillum and bill nelson. how much excitement is he generating and could he be a difference maker for some voters in purple florida? >> reporter: president obama here on the ground in florida is generating what we're hoping for. presidential scale excitement. you look at the ground behind me. organizers say there's about 4,000 people. very loud crowd. i hope you can hear me well. i spoke to people who said i droech t drove two hours to catch a glimpse of president obama. as i walk up and down the people, you heard from people that they are here for a message of unity. somebody told me i'm here for a palette cleanse.
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some of them is robin. you're here with your granddaughter. what are you hoping to hear from president obama and why is it important to bring her to this event today? >> i want to hear barack obama talk about how we can move this country forward. >> i think we lost sound. >> the next governor of this state. >> it's so loud inside that rally we're not quite able to hear that voter. i'm sorry about that. inside those rallies it can get really excitement. sometimes the mikes just aren't sensitive enough to the voice to get to it.
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i notice she was saying is voters out there are coming out to see president obama because they want to hear a message of unity and equality. donald trump is running on a much different message. a much more divisive message. a message a lot of folks would call fear mongering. they wouldn't be far off if they said that. what are you hearing down there from voters? why are they going out to see donald trump? why do they believe that his message is one that will work better for them in the 2018 midterms and does it translate to votes for the republican candidates? >> reporter: you and i have been talking about how the immigration message is percolating here through the folks that show up at trump's rally. those are the people that make up his base. that's a message they are waiting, willing to receive. this race is all about trump and the fact that both the democrat, joe mansion and patrick morrisey have tried to stick close to the
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president. his constituents here now his brand does have some meat on the bone when talking about voting with president trump some of the time. patrick morrisey is the attorney general. he has said he's going to stand with president trump. i caught up with him earlier. i asked if there was a moment he think he could break with the president. he couldn't list any. we talked about what else there is in the race besides trump. listen. >> he's tried to make the case that he voted for kavanaugh, gorsich. what's the factor besides trump between you guys? >> every sdindecision he makes about politics. it's calculating. he goes to the bathroom right before the vote. his name gets called, no answer. then they can to bring in susan
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collins. she votes and then and only then does joe make a decision. west virginia needs a leader. >> reporter: not afraid to stay too close to president trump. it makes sense when you think about the fact this is state the president won by more than 40 points in 2016. we asked if that was the only reason was they out here. they said if it's good enough if r the president, it's good enough for me. one undecided voter was a former mansion voter. she wanted to hear what they had to say on immigration. >> he has been the epitomy ofam red state democratic. i found it interesting that he brought up his vote on
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kavanaugh, it comes too late. he did break with the democratic party and he did vote on the republicans donald trump nominee for the supreme court. do you have any voters there that you can ask a question or two about what is inspiring them to go out and vote. anyone that's going to see donald trump and is just voting for morrisey because they like donald trump or anyone in the crowd that still likes mansion opinion i'll give you a second to try to find somebody. we're going to go to chris. i know you're not necessarily right next to a voter. are you? >> reporter: no. they're being bussed in and mostly inside for the most part. we have met voters who fit all the categories that you outlined. they're definitely here. >> got it. sorry about that. i departmenidn't mean to put yo spot. chris you're in california. you're covering a few tight races down there.
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there's a number of races that could make the difference for the democrats in the house. i think it's five or six. you're talking to women as well. tell me what you're hearing out there. >> reporter: there's four in this county alone. you know this is an area that's as iconic republican as the view you see behind me. something started to shift with donald trump. hillary clinton won here. now we're seeing things like this. they are coming out and doing get out the vote. there's also a tv ad i can show you. it's put out by a women's republican pact. it has republican women in it but they are women who are going to vote democratic. one of them is with me. kathryn, thanks for having us to your house. you've been a republican for 26 years. why are you flipping now? >> i believe that the republican party has changed. we used to be a party of personal responsibility and now we're a party of personal
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attacks. >> you also told me you have a daughter. >> she's 18. she's voting for the first time. i felt it was my responsibility to be counted and make a change and not lose more rights for women. >> what we're hearing from the president is about immigration. the president said yesterday, in fact, that if somebody throws rocks at u.s. mexico border, they can shoot. what goes through your mind when you hear things like that? >> i really think we need to have a difference between asylum seekers and illegal immigration. there's a huge difference. if a mom travels across thousands of miles to the u.s. as an asylum seeker, they're not the same add is illegal immigra. >> you've got all these folks here. i know you've been going door to door. how many have been hearing that kind of story from republicans? how many think there will be a surprising number of republicans
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who flip and vote democratic? all of you. really. >> s she lives with one. among their friends, the women are flipping. their husbands not so much. the new york times looked at npps. that's independents. this is not true across california but it is in orange county. they are seeing them turn toward the democrats pretty strongly. we could see a big sea change in what is the reagan heart of republican country in california. >> very interesting. our opening question was about donald trump or president obama had the ability to inspire more voters who may still be undecided. is the past president, is president obama coming into play for voters here or is it more that donald trump is turning them off so much? >> so let me ask, how many of
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you have been -- i'm going to ask you to pick one or the other. raise your hand if you're inspired by obama or turned off by trump? how many are inspired by obama? a few. how many have been turned off by donald trump? there's a lot of double hands. i've talked to a lot of women. i went to three different events yesterday. i'm here today. they talk about mom issues. they talk about being afraid to let their kids listen to the president. they talk about being values voters and they say these are not our values separating families at the border. these are not our values when we hear the kind of language that we have heard. i also hear disappointment. i think one woman said i'm talking it out on my local republican congressman because i don't think republicans beyond the president have stood up. obviously, these are people who have been activated by this. they have a particular way they are thinking about it. i have to say, going with people
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out into the community, talking to people out in the community, there's a sense there is a shift here. >> very interesting. chris, i'm jealous of your location today. the weather looks a lot nicer than it is in atlanta. >> you should be. >> we have a gloomy day. enjoy yourself. kacie, you're in tennessee. talking about whether donald trump or president obama are inspiring or turning people off, you're focused on a race down there that i find interesting. you have phil who is popular democratic governor and you have marsha blackburn who is the republican in the race and she appeared a lot with donald trump on the campaign trail. she's somebody that's championed donald trump's policies, his rhetoric. the way he goes out and campaigns. right now she's up five points according to the latest nbc
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marist poll. >> reporter: she is. the dynamic shifted in wake of the kavanaugh hearings. you're seeing a similar dynamic as the one ally was talking about. phil brettison is a pretty moderate guy. he likes to come across in sort of a reason well i've taught about this type of manner. it's very different from marsha bla blackburn who has a lot of practice being very sharp. kind of talking in sound bites and appearing frequently on fox news, for example. quite frankly, while tennessee has a long reputation of sending republican senators to washington, they haven't been in that kind of a mold. they have been people who build reputations for working across the aisle. lamar alexander hasn't
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criticized donald trump but is known for spending a lot of time working on big pieces of legislation around education and other major issues. it would be a break with that kind of mold if marsha blackburn were to win here. for phil, the challenge is figuring out how to navigate what the president is doing and saying. i thought his answers about immigration were particularly interesting. they are a bit different from what i heard from some other republican candidates. take a look. >> do you think that the caravan that's coming through mexico is a threat to the united states? >> i'm amazed that we're economically and militarily the most powerful country in the world and the notion that anybody should consider a caravan of a few thousands poor people, mostly women and children with no weapons purging our border as a threat oto the
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country. it spritrikes me beyond belief t anybody would think that way. i think it's something we ought to handle appropriately. i think we ought to control our borders. when i was a governor i sent national guard troops down to the arizona border after 9/11 when the president suggested it would be helpful. >> reporter: now i should have said that other democratic candidates. what i think will happen is we're going to get a test of just how tribal our politics are. that's been the theme of last few years. donald trump has worked hard to gin up his base that has the effect of dividing people from each other. if he's able to win in tennessee, it may send a message. there may be space for that different of politics that tries to unite a broader coalition. he had tough words for the national democratic party. he acknowledged that democrats
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are a real problem for him as he tries to make that bridge. >> it's a real lesson in when national politics can be negative when trying to run a state race. that goes for both sides. it goes for republicans and democrats. if you're in a moderate state and republican goes to extreme like donald trump's rhetoric has been on immigration, that can be hurtful as well. i want to ask this because i think this is your fourth or fifth state this week? >> reporter: fourth. i've lost all track of time. >> it's hard to do that math in your head when you're on the road and don't know where you are most days when you wake up. i called you the grand dame of midterm politics or election
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coverage. you know these races so well and you might have just answered it in your answer before, but my question is going into the weekend, we're just a few days out from the midterms, what's your big take away of where politics stand and where voters stand. what are you going to go into the weekend thinking about? >> reporter: i was reminded being out here and we structured our trip this week as a journey through the heartland of america. those midwestern states are the ones where republicans won back the house in 2010. those are the states that donald trump flipped there. places where unions have played a major role and that's driven democrat politics and a lot of people have gotten disillusioned as the manufacturing jobs have left. all those themes playing out. one thing we were reminded of as we talked to voters of all political stripes is most people
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have a different view of politics generally and of where the country should be going. more than 100 miles from an ocean. the noise machine from people most active on twitter, watching the news, they don't reflect what still feel ts lis like a b center where people are focused on the issues that help them. that's why health care has become an important issue because it matters to everybody's bottom line. it's a good reminder to say people are capable of getting out of those bubbles. it gave me some hope. >> that's great to hear. >> thank you.
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>> i believe we can hear you now. >> talk about presidential scale kpieltme excitement. that was a loud crowd. we stepped out here to talk to people about what they expect to hear. i'd like to thank robby for stepping out here as well with your grand daughter. what are you hoping to hear from the president? why was it important for you to bring her here today? >> what i wanted to hear from the president, i want him to help us move forward. he has been a great leader in the past and he can help the state of florida and andrew gillum move forward. i brought my granddaughter because it's important for her to see two powerful black men. i didn't vote for either person because they are black. i voted for them because of their politics. they are the right people to lead the state, lead the country forward. >> thank you so much. i'm going to let you go back to the event. when i walked up to line, i
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asked people what brought you here. many said truth, unity, a palette cleanse. >> so happy we were able to get that voter outside. thank you. >> reporter: we have dorothy here with us. you said you just voted. what was the biggest factor in your vote? >> immigration. the economy. promises kept. >> that's a line we hear a lot from president trump. >> that's why i'm for president trump. >> when you consider he's here for patrick morrisey. is that why you voted for morrisey? >> it is. personality wise, i like mansion better. being for more morrisey is a vote for trump.
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>> not even the fact that mansion voted for kavanaugh was nufr enough to turn you to him in. >> no it wasn't. >> that's another thing i like of trump putting conservatives on the court. >> that's the message we have heard from not just dorothy but other voters for the past three days. as mump as you were talking at the beginning of this about how some people on the left might interpret the president's closing message of immigration. folks that are part of his base, like it. this is the issue they want to hear more about. it's the issue that led you to trump away from the democrat here. >> i'm also pro -- i shouldn't say anti-abortion. that's another reason i'm for the republicans. >> got it. we'll throw it back to you. >> thank you and thank that voter as well. you have two sides of the coin there. this is really about donald
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trump. about the anti-donald trump voter and the pro-donald trump voter. you saw the woman saying she's voting for morrisey because donald trump is there to support him. remember president obama is in florida now. it's off to georgia for obama. can the country's first black president help stacy abrams become the country's first black female governor. we're back live from atlanta centennial park after a quick break. opportunlike here.rywhere. and here. see? opportunity. ev-er-y-where. about to be parents. meeting the parents. and this driver, logging out to watch his kid hit one out of the...
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welcome back here in georgia . a federal judge ruled on the fate of nationalized citizens. the judge ruled they must be allowed to participate in tuesday's elections. pete, walk us through this decision. >> here's the problem. if you get a driver's license in georgia, you can get one even though you're not a citizen. then there's a record that says you're not a citizen but you have a driver's license. then you go to vote, the state checks and says you're not a citizen. here's the problem. some people get those driver's
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licenses then become citizens, but that's not reflected in the database. what the judge says here, for people like that, they have to be allowed to vote at the polling place. they have to get a regular ballot if they can show they are a citizen. there's a number of forms they can show. they can show a driver's license. they can show a passport. they can show a birth certificate. the judge goes further than that. she says the secretary of state's website in georgia has to be updated to reflect this. county poll workers have to be told about it. there has to be something posted in the polling place that shows what the acceptableovf proving citizenship are. they have to be given a phone number and they can try to change their registration before they vote by sending proof to the registrar. all intended to help those people vote. >> these registrations were on hold in the attorney general's office. in the ruling, and i read a
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snippet, the judge said their right to vote overruled any of bryi brian kemp's rule of whether they were able to vote, right? >> it's standard analysis of a judge to issue an injunction like this to not doing anything out weigh what would happen the inconvenience to the state if you do order this. it's always a balancing act. the judge said it out weighs whatever ministerial problems for the state. >> well said. now the weekends before any election are always nuts but this weekend may be the wildest. any moment now president obama will take the stage with bill nelson and andrew gillum in
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florida. both are in toss up races against republicans trump has campaigned or endorsed. after that president obama will head to georgia to stomp with stacy abrams. you remember brian kemp from his commercials about using his pickup truck to round up undocumented immigrants. trump will be here for him on sunday. georgia has become a must visit state. >> this is a very important election. not only for the future of georgia but the future of the whole country. we need stacy abrams as governor of georgia. >> we're now powerless. every single one of us has the same power at polls. >> i'd like to remind stacy as
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oprah and will ferrell, i'm kind of a big deal too. >> joining me the former regional director for obama 2012 campai campaign. that mike pence joke, i told you i'd mispronounce your name. that mike pence joke got a laugh from all three of you. this is a tight race. we're not understating it. it's a decimal difference. the margin of error in this latest poll is 3%. it could go one way or the other. votes could go to the third party candidate ted metz which could mess things up for the ability for one of those candidates to get over 50%. what happens if they don't? >> if they don't get over 50% we have a december 4th run off. no thanksgiving for the voters
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especially not for political reporters like me. we'll go into overtime. this will be the first fall gubernatorial run offer in georgia history. we had u.s. senate races that have gone into run off and both have favored republicans. >> what does the race look like now? is it as close on the ground and from the voters you talk to as the poll suggest it is? >> it is. even the campaigns say their internal polling reflects a close race. what's not known if either can transform the electorate. >> donald trump is not on the ballot. president obama is not on the ballot. both will be campaigning for both candidates or their chosen candidate this weekend. how much do the former presidents play into a voter's choice here in georgia or is it more about the folks who are on
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the ballot? >> i think it's definitely the folks on the ballot that are the most important in this race. i think both donald trump and former president obama do play a significant role in this because they are both extremely popular with the bases of the party. what this race will come down to is base versus base. >> i think it's definitely a base plus election. we're about to bring in the most popular democrat in the nation. there's no one that can motivate democrats better than former president barack obama. i think that the plus lies that in order for stacy abrams to become the next governor of georg georgia, she's got to appeal to a lot of these disaffected republican women. they do not like the unhinged behavior they are seeing in washington for president trump. you got to give stacy abrams a
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lot of credit. for her to be leading in post polls in georgia is a historical moment in itself. the one thing she is doing, she's not focusing on metro atlanta. as we sit here, she's got a massive caravan of buses and surrogates going all across south georgia and north georgia. she's trying to visit every county to ask them for their vote. >> edregistrations and the abily to vote as gotten a lot of coverage. a judge ruled that 3,000 people can vote. they can get registered that were on hold with the governor's office until today. how much of that is factoring in and what is your take away from what you're seeing with those voters? >> it's heightening scrutiny on brian kemp's role. they say she should not still be in that office. what he's said to us, the media and the public is he was elected
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to fulfill this duty. he will do it. he will do it if there's a recount that he has to direct. >> are there any voters who are uncomfortable with that? any republican voters uncomfortable with the man overseeing the lelections run ng in the same election? >> yeah. it showed about an even split. there's a threat of concern. >> that there been as much scrutiny? >> no. this was a long running feud long before this election. it exploded. >> what's that issue? >> i think this is a
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manufactured controversy. i think if you go back to the fact that neither resigned when they were secretary of state. they were both democrats. i think withaccusations of vote suppression, it's false. all people have to do is show up, show their id and they can vote. >> why does it disproportiona disproportionately affect africa american voters? >> i think it has to do with the fact that an organization she was associated with was doing the voter registration and get out to vote among those people to register them to vote and there were a lot of mistakes on the voter registration forms. i think that it ties into the whole idea -- >> it was a pretty minor mistake.
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stuff like not having a hyphen. this is something if i went to a polling place in my state, wouldn't mean i wouldn't be able to vote. >> i understand. there were people registered several times. >> here's the problem. let's talk about what happened before we got to this point. this is the secretary of state that has purged 1.4 million voters off the list since 2012. the problem is that when we look at voter restriction laws that republicans have introduced all across the country, it's disproportionately affect people of color. when you have 70% of the people are african-americans on this exact match list, you can't help but think there was just some funny business going on. what happens is that at a time where you should be making it easier for people to register to vote, not harder. in georgia it's become harder to register to vote and not easier. what the republicans want us to believe, we registered all these new voters and we have this 21st century strategy where you register to vote online but when
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you have people who are struck off the list of a hyphen. if they go by thomas and use tom or they decide to re-register and didn't change their driver's license and doesn't match in the social security administration, these are voter suppression tack tac -- tactics that have been used. >> democrats and republicans are worried about is this demotivated voter -- encouraging them to stay home. the message is go vote. don't let anyone stop you and make sure your bring your voter id so they is vote provisional. what both campaigns have been putting out is go vote, period. >> they have. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your expertise on the great state of georgia. we're still waiting on barack obama to take the stage. we'll be right back live from atlanta's centennial park, right after this. here we go.
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we're back live in atlanta but right there, you are looking at florida. down in miami, i believe. president obama is campaigning
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with florida gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum and incumbent senator bill nelson. we're going to listen in to that. after this he depose goes to geo stump for stacy abrams. let's listen to president obama. >> miami. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's good to see all of you. first and foremost give it up for your next representatives.
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[ cheers and applause ] a leader that we are going to send back to the united states senate, my friend, bill nelson. give it up for an outstanding may mayor. one of the most inspiring gifted candidates that are running this year. the next governor of the great state of florida, andrew gillum. let me make a confession. i love you back. you knew that. that was no confession. there are a lot of good reasons to come to miami. it's starting to get a little
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cooler back in d.c. leaves are falling and the winds getting a little brisker and around this time of year you start thinking, i wouldn't mind being in miami. got the ocean. you've got really good cuban sandwiches. you've got very nice looking people. there are a lot of good reasons to come to miami. it's okay.
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[ chanting ] we're okay. we're okay. this is what i look forward to is having a few hecklers to get me back in the mood. i enjoy that. you always got to have a few in order to know that you're on the campaign trail. these are all the reasons i've come down to miami. the real reason i came down to miami because this tuesday might be the most important election of our lifetime. politicians will always say that but this time it's actually true. the stakes really are that high.
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the consequences of any of us staying home really are more dangerous. america is in a cross roads. the health care of millions -- hold on a second. hold on a second. hold on a second. hold on a second. here's the deal. here's the deal. if you support the other candidates, then you should go
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support the other candidates. don't be here. i never -- one of the things i never understood was why if you're supporting the other guy, you come to my rally. go to their rally. go talk about what you're for. don't come holler in here. where was i? [ cheers and applause ] so america's at a cross roads. the health care of millions is on the ballot. making sure working families get a fair shake is on the ballot.
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but maybe most of all the character of our country is on the ballot. in the closing weeks of this election we have seen repeated attempts to divide us with rhetoric designed to make us angry and make us fearful. it's designed to exploit our history of rationcial and ethnid religion to pit us against eemp other. that order would be restored if folks that don't look like we look or love like we love or pray like we do. [ cheers and applause ]
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you know what? it's an old playbook. it's one that the powerful and the privilege turn to whenever control starts slipping away. they'll get folks riled up just to protect their power and their privilege. even when it hurts to country. even when it puts people at risk. it's as cynical as politics gets. but in four days -- in four days, florida, you can reject that kind of politics.
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in four days you can be a check on that kind of behavior. in four days you can choose a bigger, more prosperous more generous vision of america, an america where love and hope conquer hate. an america where we the people, whatever we look like, whoever we love, however we choose to pray, however our ancestors came here, we can come together to shape our country's course. that's what andrew gillum stands for. that's what bill nelson stands for. i'm hoping that's what you stand
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for. that's what you can do when you vote on tuesday. and then, we have been at this cross roads -- we have been at cross roads like this before and each time we made the right choice not by sitting back, not by waiting for history to happen to us, but by marching and my mobilizing and by organizing and by voting to make history happen. that's thousand we abolished slavery in this country. that's how we overcame a great depression. that's how we won women's rights workers rights and civil rights and lgbt rights and immigrants rights. that's what made the story of
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america, story of progress, ordinary people doing extraordinary things. but progress never comes without a fight. for every two steps of progressive change, we often take one step back in conservative entrenchment. every time we start pulling ourselves closer to our founding ideas that all of us are created equal, endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, every time we start including more people in that promise, some folks start pushing back. the status quo pushes back. you win the right to make a union. but then somebody comes around and tries to bust your union. you win a higher minimum wage.
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then congress decides we won't raise the minimum wage for a decade. you win the right to vote. they try to make it hard for you to vote. making this country better has never been easy. i love you too, but -- but this is serious. ten years ago -- ten years ago i was campaigning for president. i was in game shape back then. that's why i didn't lose my voice. i could talk all the time. now i'm not used to talking this much. but ten years ago we had just gone through a period of conservative retrenchment. republicans had been cutting
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taxes for the rich. they had been cutting rules for big banks and for polluters. we had just gotten hit with the worst financial crisis in our lifetimes. and guess what? the democrats had to come and clean up. bill remembers because he was there. and so with the help of democrats like bill nelson, we got the economy growing again. we covered another 20 million people with health care. we doubled the amount of clean energy we generate. we put tougher rules on banks and credit card companies. we cut our deficits by more than half. in part by making sure the wealthiest paid their fair share of taxes. so by the time i left office,
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wages were rising, the uninsured rate was falling the economy was growing and by the way, that growth has just kept on growing. you know, i know -- i do have to make this point because right now, republicans are all, look, the economy is so good. where do you think that started? when did that start? they're talking about how, oh, look how many jobs we created. the economy created more jobs in the last 21 months when i was in office than it did in the 20 months after i left office.
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and at that time they were saying how terrible the economy was. any way, we'll get to that. that's what a progress agenda did. now, we didn't get everything we wanted to do. you couldn't reverse 40-year economic trends in only eight years. you wouldn't bring all the jobs back that had moved overseas. you couldn't eliminate all the inequality that had built up, especially not after republicans took over congress and blocked everything that bill and i and others tried to do. but now republicans have been in control for two years. everywhere. in washington. white house, house, senate.
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what have they done with that power? it's not true they haven't done nothing. they cut taxes for the rich just like they did last time. they stripped out rules to protect our air and water, just like they did the last time. they ran up the deficit, just like the last time. just like the last time. and by the way, they actually know none of this is popular. which is part of the reason why just like the last time they're actively trying to disenfranchise voters to keep them from voting. they're also resorting to the same tactic that they did the last time, which is to try to scare folks with whatever boogie man or social issues they can come up with. just like they did the last time. let's take a look at what they
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have been up to. they promised to take on corruption. instead, they have racked up enough indictments to field a football team. you know, i didn't have anybody in my administration get indicted. i enmmean, i just thought that' how you're supposed to do things. they pledged to fight for the little guy. instead they doled out $1.5 trillion in tax cuts aimed at billionaires and corporations. [ crowd boos ] don't boo. vote. republicans can't hear you boo. but they can hear you vote.
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so they did not even pretend to pay for these tax cuts and of course deficits shot up. that's what happened. except just two weeks ago the republican leader in congress said, you know, now that we have gotten our tax cuts passed we are very disturbed with the deficit. we need to bring them down. we are going to have to cut programs like medicare and medicaid and social security. hey, don't take my word for it. look it up. that's what he said. in fact, look up everything i say today, because i promise you, i believe in a fact-based campaign. the point is that cutting medicare and social security and medicaid to pay for tax cut

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