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donald trump can't be happy tonight that someone who was sure to be one of his most fervent dead fenders in any judiciary committee hearing about him isn't going to be i mean the two of them have made quite an alliance. i think the president still hasn't commented onth what he thinks about congressman king's white supremacist comments. the president somehow missed that ine his daily news feed. >> you know, this is the part of it that i don't understand. i don't even have a theory for it. that is the why now? why was this the tipping point for republicans with steve king? does it have something to do with them learning something about losing the last house election? i really don't know. >> i mean we don't know, and i don't know that they'll ever tell us in a way we feel like we can trust, but i mean i -- i think it is probably worth something here that the republican speaker of the house is no longer paul ryan. it is mccarthy.
they've been on the same team and working so closely together for so long we don't know of divisions we see between them from a distance, but we may learn something about kevin mccarty being a different guy in terms of paul ryan in terms of what he is willing to endure as embarrassment from his own caucus. i'm not sure we'll know why any time soon. >> i don't know. let me think. >> it could be. come on. >> no, rachel, i want that to be true. i want that to be true. >> thank you. >> i'm going to sleep on it. i will hope it is true. >> i'm a little slow for lining -- i follow your dark cloud around, i catch it every once in a while. >>n it was beautifully prepped. i want to believe. thank you, rachel. we have breaking news tonighte indicating while many reporters andca pundits recently have been speculating that the mueller investigation is close to an end there is of more to the investigation than any of us
can know including this new report in "the daily beast" tonight with the lead, quote, the special counsel's office and federall prosecutors in manhatt are scrutinizing a meeting involving former house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes, one-time national security adviser michael flynn, and dozens of foreign officials, according to three sources familiar with the investigations. the investigation is about a breakfast event at the trump hotel in washington two days before the trump inauguration. the event came to the attention of t prosecutors who were investigating possible misuse of funds by the trump inaugural committee. michael flynn, of course, has already pleaded guilty to lying to thed fbi and has been cooperating with investigators. this is the first time devin nunes's name has surfaced in reports concerning the special prosecutor's investigation, and so robertec mueller's investigation continues and none of us really know exactly what he is investigating, who he is
investigating or how many different things and cases and episodes he is investigating, how many potential defendants still face some jeopardy as robert mueller continues his work. is devin nunes now contemplating seeking immunity from the special prosecutor ing exchange for telling everything he knows about possible russian influence in the trump campaign or the trump transition or the trump white house or russian influence overus donald trump himself? today nbc's kristen welker asked the president of the united states the question that produced theue answer that will follow donald trump for the rest of his life and beyond. it may turn out to be the most memorable line of the trump presidency. it surely would be for any other presidency, but donald trump is so verbally explosive we have no idea what is coming tomorrow. to put what the president said today in historical perspective,
let's consider just for a moment how little mo of us can remember of what presidents actually say --pr and i don't mean phrase like hope and change or shining city on a hill or a thousand points of light. i mean full sentences. the truth of it is that most of us usually cannot remember a single full sentence spoken by a president. i mean jimmy carter, i can't remember a single full sentence he llsaid, and that's not unusua that's true for most presidents. so just an example, i will now recite for you every full sentence that i can remember a president saying since the dawn of mass media in the radio age when the president of the united states first became a recognizable voice nationally through the magic of radio about 90 years ago. the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for
your country. i shall not seek and will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president. mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. i did not have sexual relations with that woman. that's all i can remember word for word in full sentences from the last 90 years of the american presidency. it is not about the eloquence of the president. we've had no more eloquent president than barack obama but his sentences were not sound bites and perhaps more importantly he was never at the center of a scandal or collapsingan presidency and that what produces some of our most memorable presidential lines, line president lyndon johnson announcing in 1968 as his presidency was drowning in anti-war protest that he would not run for reelection. johnson's party was deserting him for two anti-war candidates. so at the lowest point of his presidency lbj shocked us with
that sentence we did not expect and could never thforget, that h was not going to run for reelection. bill clinton's most memorable quote comes from his reaction to part of the scandal that led to his impeachmentda in the house o representatives. the one line that i left out of that collection is the presidential line that wasle echoede today by donald trump, and it is the most memorable line of richard nixon's five-and-a-half years as president of the united states, and it comes from the heart of the scandal that led the house judiciary committee voting to bring articles of impeachment against president nixon and not long after that president nixon's resignation. >> i am not a crook. >> i'm not a crook. today's easy-to-remember presidential line came in response to an investigation which could lead to something we've seen before, the resignation of b a president or
the impeachment of a president, and it could possibly lead to somethingsi we've never seen before, the impeachment of a president in the house of representatives and the conviction and removal of that president from office by the united states senate. >> i never worked for russia. >> in history that line will have a longer life than mexico will pay t for the wall. today, january 14, 2019, will hold its spot in history as the firstry and only day on which a president of the united states hash denied being an agent for foreign government. that is what it has come to. that is the i-am-not-a-crook moment in the trump presidency. that nixon quote is not important because it is so memorable, but because i he was denying what became the essential accusation against him by aac special prosecutor and th membersal of the house judiciary committee that voted to impeach him and it turns out richard nixon was o a crook.
that was the single-most important thing you could know about richard nixon and that is the space he occupies in history, our criminal president. when richard nixon said he was not a crook, we in the audience couldn't prove he was. so tonight after hearing the president of the united states deny he is now or ever has been a russian agent, we don't know if it is true. wekn don't know what is true. but we do know that the history of presidents deep in scandal denying the most damning accusation about them is a history of presidents not telling the truth. bill clintontr actually did do what he denied doing in his most famous quote. richard nixon actually was a crook. so now we await robert mueller's answer to the question kristen welker asked today, have youon ever worked for russia, yes or no?
that question came after a weekend of intense media coverage and reaction to a friday night "new york times" report that the fbi opened a counterintelligence investigation of the president of the united states because in the first months of the trump presidency after the firing of fbi director james comey the fbi had then the very same question that kristin welcome asked today, is the president a russian agent. shortly after the fbi opened that investigation, robert mueller was appointed special counsel to investigate, quote, any links and/or coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with thevi campaign of president dona trump and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation. so tonight robert mueller is working on the answer to that question, is the president a russian agent. when robert mueller writes his report on his investigation, president trump is hoping that mueller will be handing that
report to william barr who the president has nominated to be his next attorney general. william barr's confirmation hearing begins tomorrow morning at 9:30, and in his prepared testimony released in writing today, william barr says, i believe it is vitally important that the special counsel be allowed to c complete his investigation. i have known bob mueller personally and m professionally for 30 years. we worked closely together throughout my previous tenure at the department of justice under president bush. we have been friends since. i have the utmost respect for bob andec his distinguished reco of public service. when he was named special counsel i said that his selection was good news and that knowing him i had confidence he would handle the matter properly. i stillhe have that confidence today. the country needs a credible resolution of these issues. ifes confirmed, i will not permi partisan politics, personal interest or any other improper consideration to interfere with this or any other investigation. i will follow the special
counsel regulations regulations and on my watch bob will be allowed to finish his work. for yahoo! new. ned price is witho! us, a former cia analyst and former senior director and spokesperson for the a national security council the obama administration, an msnbc contributor. andrew wise, an expert who served on the staff of the nationalaf security council and the state department during the clintond administration. michael isikoff, i want to start with i you. having written the book "russian roulette" you have beensi trying to get toha these answers for years now. you have come closer than most of us to answers here. i want your reaction to the reporting about the fbi's investigation of the president beginning soonerig than we thoug and, in effect, sliding into and becoming part of thein mueller investigation.
>> you know, my reaction is it is time for congress to step up to the plate and fulfill its constitutional responsibility and try to get answers. look, we can spend weeks and months waiting for bob mueller to complete his investigation. i dohi think it is closer than y indicated in yourse opening, but grant we don't know for sure. what i am less sure about is that when mueller completes his investigation we are going to instantly know the t results in anyul meaningful form. we don't know what kind of report he is writing. it could be an expansive one. it could be a very limited one saying, i've charged these people, i haven't charged these other prospective defendants. wect don't know how much will be publicly released. there could be a battle over executive privilege. there could be a battle -- you know, there's nothing in the regulations that requires public dissemination of this report.
so the only people who can get answers to all of the questions raised in that "new york times" story and all of the other story we have been talking about for two years now is the congress of the united states with public hearings, with key fact witnesses, and stop waiting for, you know, some mueller report that may or may not come any time soon.r we have an opportunity, february 7th, the first opportunity, elliott cummings will be questioning before the house oversight committee, michael cohen. all questions should be on the table, regardless of whether they get directly into his mueller testimony. inec fact, they should focus on his mueller testimony, the trump tower meeting, the ukrainian press plan, peace plan, everything else we have been talking about. it is the only way for us to finally get answers to all these questions and it is really up to congress now to step up and do its job. >> ned, what michael's describing is the way it worked during watergate, the special
prosecutor was working, the congressional investigative committees were working in the senate, in the house, even the impeachment hearings were going on in the house judiciary committee while the special prosecutor was still working. >> that's absolutely right. unfortunately, in this case, lawrence, we have a very differentwe model. we have endured a very different model, largely because of the individual you referenced at the top of your intro, and that's devin nunes. devin nunes ensured at the start, at the start of this administration congress, especially the house, would not beou able to undertake a credibl investigation because he turned it precisely into partisan warfare. devin nunes started as a member of the trump transition team and he never really relinquished that role during his time as chairman of thee intelligence committee. so unfortunately we haven't been able tona benefit from that mode in this presidency. yes, we have the senate intelligence committee.
there's been a of greater degree of comity between the chair and ranking member of the committee, but one committee alone that itself is not a special committee aroundt this one issu itis has a whole host of other oversight issues pertaining to the broader panoply of intelligence activities and institutions, cannot get to the bottom of this alone. for that reason we had to put a lot of stock in bob mueller. i agree with michael. we don't know precisely what he will present us ecwith, but i ha no doubt that he will present congress with at the very least an opening to continue the important work that is now moving forward in earnest, that we have a democratic house and a house importantly with the power of thee gavel and the power of the subpoena. >> later in this hour we will hear from eliot engel, the new chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. he has announced he wants to use his subpoena power and his investigative power in that committee to find outwe exactly what donald trump and vladimir putin have been talking about.
he is trying to find different ways to find that out. andrew wise, that strikes me as an investigative mode that although it seems like relatively normal oversight for thator foreign affairs committee to ffdo, it also feeds the investigative process of what's going on here. you have pointed out there's a tremendous overlap of questions here in what robert mueller is investigating and what has emerged ing this "washington post" reporting about the president trying to hide what he says to vladimir putin, what vladimir putin says to him. >> yeah. right now i think it is important for everyone to sort of focus on a key week of events, and that was during the period for donald trump's face-to-face meeting with vladimir putin in m hamburg, germany in summer of 2017. whatme is remarkable about the chronology that is worth focusing on here is how this
very first in-person encounter between the two leereds coincided with the scramble inside the white house and inside trump's own family to respond to a breaking report in "the new york times" that sort of was the first confirmed report of a high level meeting between members of the trump campaign and a russia emissary. what was remarkable is after the first official by lat raul raul bilateral meeting in the g-20 donald trump went out of his way to seek out vladimir putin on the margins of the g20 summit. we don't know what they talked about, but when trump basically helped draft the statement for don jr. he emphasized all the russian lawyer had come to talk to people about what this horrible humanitarian situation where the russian government had cut off american families' ability to adopt russian orphans. we now know of course that was
just a smoke screen for what was going on, which was a russian emissary saying, hey, i'm here to give dirt on your political opponents. so trump seems to have created this, you know, narrative of, oh, you know, i'm really worried about russian orphans. he was promptly embarrassed when that didn't hold up. but whereid i think we all are, you know, struck by based on greg miller's report over the weekend in "the washington post" is this bizarre behavior, basically telling the translator, don't share any information about what you just witnessed, preventing the rest of the u.s. government from even knowing that the second meeting with vladimir putin had even happened. it was only about teng dayswi l that the white house basically came out and said, oh, yeah, by the way we did this other meeting and we are just informing you now as if it wasn't meaningful. the final wapoint, i will conclu on this, was about ten days later with "the new york times" trump repeated this line about adoption, pretending it was the central aspect of why this
russian emissary was received at trump tower by don jr., jared kushner and paul manafort. it doesn't add up. >> michael, as andrew just lined up in the eetimeline, it is possible in what andrew was describing that in his secret discussion with vladimir putin where only the russian translator was present at that dinner that donald trump could have been getting his story straight with vladimir putin about what to tell "the new york times" about the trump tower meeting before then getting the story straight with donald trump jr. about what to tell "the new york times." >> interesting speculation for which we have no evidence. i meane i think the timeline th andrew outlined is intriguing and i would add one more data point, something i reported almost two years ago now or at the time, which was that trump's lawyers knew about the content
of those -- of the e-mails that led to the trump tower meeting in late june of 2017. so it was two or three weeks before the meeting with putin and when the white house acknowledged that trump was awarep of it. it seemed improbable that trump's lawyers wouldn't have these e-mails laying out exactly what the trump tower meeting was about or what it was supposed to be w about and not have informed their client. but all ofin that said, i mean, look, you will have eliot engel up. i come back to my point before, he's chairman of the house foreign affairs committee and he could subpoena the translators, secretary tillerson, then-secretary, was there for parts of the meeting with putin. he can be called to testify. there areed ways to get at this without having to wait for robert mueller, who may or may not be able to answer the question.
just getting back to the point ned made, devin nunes is no longer the chairman of the house intelligence committee, adam schiff is. one of the more disheartening things i saw last week was a tweet from adam schiff saying he wants to call michael cohen is closed session before the house intelligence committee. really? at this point in the game? closed session, behind closed doors? i meannd that just strikes me as completely off. getting back to my main point, the american public and congress deserve answers to these questions, and let's stop waiting for bob mueller who may or may not be able to answer them. >> michael isikoff, andrew weiss, thank you for starting us off tonight. when we come back, "the washington post" reports president trump has gone to great lengths to hide what he and vladimir putin talk about in their private conversations, but eliot engel is now the new chairman of the house foreign affairs committee and he may have subpoena power that can find something out about all of
that.ng he will join us next. the trump shutdown continues with onep of the trump administration's top officials saying it is like a vacation for federal workers. it is a federal vacation.fe it is a vacation where you don't get paid. it is d a federal vacation where lot of them, like tsa agents and air traffic controllers, have to actually work. house representatives is now warning the president to stop trying to interfere with their hearing next month in which michaelth cohen will testify abo crimes hees says he committed wi donald trump. i hear it in the background and she's watching too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪
"washington post" broke a big story this weekend about donald trump's communication with vladimir putin, saying that the president tries not to let anyone in his administration know what he actually says to putin and what putin says to him in private meetings. "the washington post" described the sources of the article this way, current and former u.s. officials. donald trump has fired a bunch of people who are in a position to tell this story to "the washington post", including former secretary of state rex tillerson, former national security adviser h.r. mcmaster, and possibly the best position of all, former white house chief of staff john kelly, who is not mentioned in the article in any way, which makes john kelly one of the most likely sources of the article. for a report like this, you would expect "the washington post" to ask the former white house chief of staff for a
comment and then report that the former white house chief of staff declined to comment, but there is no reference to john kelly at all in the article. that is normally the way articles like this protect their sources. rex tillerson answered some of "the washington post's" questions by e-mail, but when he was asked if the president seized the notes taken by the white house interpreter and ordered the interpreter not to tell anyone what was said in the meeting that rex tillerson was in, rex tillerson refused to answer those questions. rex tillerson was in the meeting where "the washington post" said that that happened. rex tillerson could have easily told "the washington post", "i did not see the president take the interpreter's notes." but he didn't say that. didn't help the president in any way. he refused to answer that question. "the washington post" reports on one of the encounters that the president had with putin that no other u.s. officials witnessed including a one-on-one encounter that the presidents had with
vladimir putin for an hour at a g20 banquet and the president did not allow an american interpreter to join that discussion, which was a discussion between donald trump and vladimir putin with vladimir putin's translator. what will we ever know about what donald trump said to vladimir putin and what vladimir putin said to donald trump? it could be that the american interpreters who have been present in those discussions are the only people who can tell us, and right now the only people who might be able to get answers from those interpreters are robert mueller and our next guest, the new chairman of the house foreign relations committee. joining us now is congressman eliot engel, a democrat from new york city and chairman of the house committee on foreign affairs. mr. chairman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i really appreciate it. given this reporting in "the washington post", you have announced one of the first investigations or the first investigation you intend to do in your committee is to find out
what vladimir putin and donald trump have been saying to each other. how will you try to do that? >> well, let me first say that since the time in 2016 when the russians interfered in our elections and tried very hard to get to donald trump elected president, i was really offended like so many other americans. from that time on after trump was president there seems to be some kind of a symbiotic relationship between putin and trump, where trump is dissing our traditional allies, the countries in nato which have served us well since the end of world war ii, and somehow with putin there's a special kind of relationship. you just can't put your finger on it, but you sort of know it is there. of course, with the revelation that the president instructed
the interpreter to not leave any notes around or took the notes or whatever it was, it is clear that something is going on with putin that the president doesn't seem to want anybody to know about. so we're going look at that. you know, the house is organizing now. we don't have our full committee, people on the committee. that should happen after a few appointments to the committee, after a few days, and we're going to get cracking on this. we're going to be speaking about chairman schiff and our committees are talking, and we're going to figure out the best way that the american people can find out what really went on. i think the american people have a right to know what their president is talking about. it has been many months since helsinki and we still don't have a clue. it is not acceptable. >> "the washington post" says the sources include former u.s.
officials, people who could be in position to help your inquiry include former white house chief of staff john kelly, rex stiller son, former national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. are those the kind of witnesses you would like to hear from? >> well, again, we haven't gotten that far yet, but yeah. i think witnesses who would be in the know, who would understand what happened or didn't happen, who would understand why this is different than what we're used to with american presidents. so we would seek, i would imagine, down the line to speak to anyone who may have knowledge with what is really going on with putin and trump. >> i want to ask you about a late-breaking piece of news that the republicans, your republican colleagues in the house, the action they've taken tonight. they have removed steve king from his committee assignments in the house of representatives, in effect rebuked him that way, removed him from the agriculture committee and judiciary
committee. i want to get your reaction to the republicans finally taking some action against steve king for some of the racist comments that he has made. >> well, you know, the old adam better late than never. i think it was a good thing to do. i mean i think it is sad but it was the right thing to do. i think it was important that the republicans did it as well. so we can't tolerate that kind of bigotry or that kind of talk. that's not tolerable. i don't care if you are a democrat or a republican, it is not tolerable. so i think they did the right thing. hopefully people will learn from this that this is not the kind of way that certainly anyone should act, but certainly not an elected official. >> congressman eliot engel, now chairman eliot engel, thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. my pleasure. coming up, the trump
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this is the trump administration's new face of cruelty. he said on pbs news hour that 800,000 federal workers not being paid are better off. he actually used the phrase "better off" because he said they're now on vacation. his name is kevin hassett. he seems to think that smiling is the best way to get you to believe him because you will never see him speak publicly
without smiling. he is donald trump's chairman of the council of economic advisers. he is one of the least distinguished economists ever to hold that position, and judging by his public comments he is by far the cruellest person ever to hold that position. >> they have the vacation, but they don't have to use their vacation days, and then they come back and then they get their back pay and in some sense they're better off. >> are they all so oblivious? are they all cruel? is that take job requirement for working for donald trump? it is not like vacation because when you are on vacation from your job you still get paid for your job so you can make your car payments and your mortgage payments and your rent payments, and it is not like vacation for air traffic controllers and tsa agents and many others, coast guard officers, who are still going to work every day and not
being paid for their life saving work. they're not better off. no one is better off in this shutdown. joining our discuss, jennifer palmieri and former white house communication, adam jones is with us. former deputy chief of staff, harry reid and director of public affairs for democracy forward. jennifer, it is just astonishing to me. i watch kevin hasert make the most ridiculous statements i have ever heard an economist make from the white house about the exploding national debt under president trump which president trump promised to reduce, exploding deficit under president trump, a deficit president trump promised to reduce. he has said a lot of horribly embarrassing things at a professional level as an economist, but this, this about vacation takes him to a whole new level.
>> and what it portrays is they think it is all a game, right. the shutdown to them is all a game of brinksmanship and they get caught up in it and it is about getting a big win for themselves and for president trump's supporters. you know, what's -- i think he is pretty far removed from the concerns that everyday families and federal employees have who aren't making mortgage payments this week, who aren't able to make their car payments and, you know, if you ply a lot like i do, tsa employees who are showing up and being -- doing a great job and being really courteous in the face of long lines and uncertainty if they will ever get paid. it just shows, i think it really portrays how they treat all of this as if it is a game. >> adam, i flew last night and my plane took off on time, it landed early thanks to air traffic controllers who have to worry about how they're going to make mortgage payments, tuition
payments possibly for kids they may have in school. these same air traffic controllers are the people i'm counting on to get my plane back on the ground safely. they're doing a remarkable job. there's nothing like vacation here for them. >> no, that's right. you know, one of the things we see happening here i think is the republican myth of government is running smack hard into the reality of what government really is. you know, government is a force for good in people's lives across the board. from, you know, tsa workers you guys were talking about to people who process tax returns, you know, these are not jobs that are often heralded but they're important to our daily lifts, to our safety. >> to our prosperity. one of the things the trump administration is trying to do here is keep some of the sort of more high profile and essentially parts of the government open. some of them are funded by an appropriations bill, but other parts the government are just
keeping open illegal lichlt they're trying to keep the national parks open because they don't want to deal with the public relations disaster that comes from closing the national parks. the organization we work for think it is illegal and we asked for an ig investigation into that. the trump administration is trying to avoid the nasty parts of shutting down the government to try to portray a myth that government doesn't matter when in reality it is extremely important. >> jennifer, kevin hasert makes a living in his job in the white house, better off is his motto for everything. that the farmers suffering under the trump tariffs preventing them from reaching export markets they normally reach are better off. he will make that kind of argument all the time. he will do this with anything, that the trump administration, any horribly perverse economic policy that the trump administration has gotten itself into. but for him to sit there and talk about the public workers this way is a new height for me.
i have known some of the republican chairs of economic advisors for presidents, honorable economists with whom you could have reasonable disagreements about policy outcomes. i have never heard anything like this from them before the trump administration. >> right. other comments i don't necessarily agree with, but republican heads of the economic advisers for republican administrations, they have a different theory about how the economy can work best than i do. but then you have someone like kevin massett who comes in, who is merely there to spin whatever he need to, to make whatever the situation is be positive for trump. but this is really -- i think this is particularly telling about how little they care on the -- about the impact that this has on actual americans who are going -- you notice, very few people in american are not
living paycheck to paycheck anymore. to not have any kind of certainty as to whether -- when this thing will end, and you certainly have no leadership from the white house about when it will end, and facing the sense that they may never get -- there's no certainty they will get the lost pay back either. >> adam, having worked in the senate as you have, i don't know if you see it the way i do now. as far as i'm concerned it is now the mcconnell shutdown because i've never seen a senate majority leader who would stand for this conduct in the white house that mitch mcconnell is accepting. any previous senate majority leader under any previous president, even if the president was in his own party, would have taken up these house bills and gotten this government reopened over a veto if necessary. >> yeah, that's right. i mean to be completely clear about this, mitch mcconnell could end this shutdown tomorrow. he could bring a variety of different funding bills to the floor to let them pass, but one of the bills he could bring to
the floor is the bill that passed his own senate a few weeks ago yu nan nussly. he could bring it to the floor tomorrow, it would pass immediately and he would have to face the prospect it could be vetoed by president trump. >> we will squeeze in a break here. when we come back, so far the worst day of congressional testimony about donald trump was james comey describing president trump trying to get him to drop his investigation of michael flynn, but there is a of worse day of congressional testimony coming up for donald trump, and that is when michael cohen testifies to the house next month about crimes that he says he committed with and at the direction of donald trump. that's why donald trump is attacking michael cohen again and house committee chairman are warning the president not to interfere with their investigation. you're made of trillions of cells.
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we are now three weeks away from michael choen's public testimony before the house oversight and government reform committee. yesterday democrats in the committee issued a warning to president trump saying he cannot discourage, intimidate or otherwise pressure a witness not to provide testimony to congress, and they did that following what the president said about michael cohen on "fox news" on saturday. >> in order to get his sentence reduced he says, i have an idea.
i'll tell -- i'll give you some information on the president. well, there is no information, but he should give information maybe on his father-in-law because that's the one that people want to look at, because where is that money? that's the money in the family. i guess he didn't want to talk about his father-in-law. he is trying to get his sentence reduced. it is pretty sad. you know, it is weak and very sad to watch a thing like that. i couldn't care less. >> couldn't care less. did it sound like he couldn't care less? the "fox news" host asked the president the most gentle possible follow-up question, what is the name of michael cohen's father-in-law? the president's answer was, i don't know. but he does know just how harmful michael cohen's testimony is going to be for him. and as these three weeks tick down to michael cohen's big testimony day in the house of representatives, you can expect donald trump's michael cohen
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federal investigation that now refers to the president as individual 1. and we're back with jennifer palmeri. the testimony next month in the house of representatives, with stormy daniels, she announced she will be attending, will be so farce the worst day of public testimony in congress about donald trump. >> it has the potential of being worse than jim comey. we are seeing the impact of having a democratic house. donald trump's days of having unchecked power are over and when you have someone who's going to come testify about the crimes he committed with you, you try to intimidate him publicly, chairmen of congressional committees are going to call you out and say you may be committing obstruction of justice. i think the fact that steve king lost his committee assignments today, i think that is an impact of the -- an effect of the democratic house because if the
republicans hadn't taken action, the democrats in the house would have censured steve king. for the first time, you see republicans actually taking some action. it shows the impact of when one body of congress, at least, is willing to stand up and do its job and trump is going to be held accountable in ways he doesn't done before. be quite a scene next month when cohen testifies. >> adam, what are you expecting in the cohen testimony, and included in that, the trump panic in the next three weeks leading up to it? >> yeah, i mean, look, trump ran his business and is running his white house as a casual criminal enterprise. he wasn't big on due diligence and michael cohen has all the secrets so i think, you know, a lot of the road -- i think michael cohen has the ability to put pieces together and connect some of the dots from a lot of the individual pieces of information that have come out over the last couple years on trump's various criminal activities and in particular, i think some interesting things about russia will be put in
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which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? time for tonight's ""last word." 30,000 teachers in the country's second largest school district went on strike today in los angeles. their struggle with the school board is not just about salary but about important issues like class side that they believe impact the quality of education. here are two of those teachers. >> i'm out here fighting for students. fighting for smaller class
sizes. fighting for nurses. fighting for the librarians. fighting for counselors. school psychologists. just fighting because the kids deserve it. there shouldn't be a nurse on school one or two days of the week. >> question enter this profession because we care about young kids. young lives. we care about them. we want them to succeed in their future. we're out here fighting for them. their future. my sons and my daughter. >> los angeles public school teachers get tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. tonight, america has entered new territory as our president is asked a direct question on camera, was he or is he working for russia? he also defends his one-on-one conversations with vladimir putin. plus, a high-profile hearings that get under way just hours from now. will the senate confirm this man to run the justice department? and by extension, the mueller investigation? and as the impact of the government shutdown deepens
across the country, for example, as lines at the nation's airports get even longer, as families get pushed into financial peril, the pressure grows on both parties to come up with a way out as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a monday hour" gets under way on a monday night. well, good evening once again from our nbc news hours headquarters here in new york. day 725 of the trump administration. and day 24 of this government shutdown, which will become day 25 by the end of this broadcast. the stalemate over the budget that has cost 800,000 workers their paychecks entering week 4. new battle could erupt tomorrow in congress over william barr, trump's nominee for attorney general who's been critical in the past of the mueller inquiry. and this comes amid fallout from the new reporting about the president and russia. when last we spoke on friday night, "the new york times" had just broken a story that donald trump had come under fbi scrutiny, for possibly wor