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of our story. hello everyone, it is wednesday, august 7th, coming up this hour on "velshi & ruhle." president trump is in dayton, ohio where he's scheduled to meet with first responders victims and families. we then head to el paso, texas. we want to remember the reason for his visit. the nine people killed on sunday morning in dayton's mass shooting. they are megan betts, saree sareed saleh and derek fudge and monica brickhous and nicholas cumer. >> we spoke to them all week of the horror they saw. >> i walked down the sidewalk and see a row of -- a row of
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bodies. >> people shot and some alive and some not. >> we are here at the unification center, we are praying to god, please make peace here. [ cries ] >> everybody loved her, she was an incredible mom. she was just a wonderful person. she would give anything for those kids. anything, everyone hn her life. >> they had been shot when my grandma called my mom. they were crying. it hurt where they shot him at. i am grateful to be able to be alive and talk to my family and friends and tell them that i am okay but my heartbreaks for these families it is not fair. >> what i did was what i was supposed to do.
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i don't say it is heroic, that was not the reason for me. [ cries ] >> i am just focusing on the kids that i could not get. they were apart of me. >> he was not breathing. just plain hatred. >> before president trump left for his trip today, he addressed critics who say his words play a role in this weekend's violence. the president claims he try to stay out of the prophases. >> my critics are political people that tries to make points in many cases running for president and low in the polls.
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a couple of them in particular, low in the polls. if you look at dayton, that was a person that supported i guess you would say bernie sanders, i understand and elizabeth warren, i understood, it had nothing to do with president trump. so these are people that are looking for political gain, i don't think they're getting it and as much as possible, i try to stay out of that. >> joining me now from dayton, our kathy park where a large crowd has gathered. what's the crowd's message to the president? >> ali, good afternoon to you. we have been on the ground for the past couple of days, i have to say this is probably the largest scene that we have experienced and probably hearing the chanting so there are a lot of folks who are periodically chanting and saying usa right
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now. over here to my left, you have some pro-trump and over to the right, this is a bluer situation. >> the crowd trying to say the last 20 or 30 minutes or so. it has been down significantly. a lot of people were anticipating and the president coming through here, one lady is holding a sign that says no violence and unity and respect. the conversation has shifted to a political one and ali, as you mention this is where the shooting took place. a lot of people that we spoke with once honored the nine lives
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that were lost. i was . die despite the rhetoric that's being spoken right now, dayton officers are making sure that nothing -- you can hear folks chanting "peace and love." >> peace and love! peace and love! >> reporter: these moments are breaking out. a lot emotions are running high at this point. the president is wrapping up his patie visit with patients there. we are relatively peaceful and
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diets wh despite of what you are seeing here. they want to make sure that people remember it is a safe place and they want to honor those nine victims. >> kathy park, thank you in dayton, ohio. president trump is going to make his way to el paso, texas after this. i want to take a moment to remember the 22 victims killed in saturday's massacre. their names deserved to be heard. amir rodriguez. angela englisbee leonardo campos, maria flores, raul flores, gloria ir irma marquez, maribel hernandez,
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sarah regalado, horjorge garcia teresa sanchez, lewis juarez. the president is using el paso as a prop. >> i look to the president this morning as he was taking off for his visit and again no sense of se self-awareness of the role he played. he missed an opportunity for reconciliation of the facts that his words have been used. my community unfortunately has been nothing but a prop for donald trump. >> before today's visit, president trump denounced hate
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and claim his rhetoric brings people together. a new op-ed in the washington post arguing hispanics in america are under attack and the president is partly to blame. the author including congress joaquin castro of texas, black and brown people of this country are under attack. immigrants in this country are under attack. president trump is fanning the flames of hate and division and bigotry directed at us all. immigrants and u.s. citizens are alike. let's take a moment to listen how president trump talks about immigrants. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, crimes, they're rapistiss and some i assume are good people. democrats want to invite caravan after caravan of illegal aliens to pour into our country. i don't think so. that's an invasion. i don't care what they say. i don't care what the fake media
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says. that's an invasion of our people. >> the country puts the name in the basket. you pick people out of the lottery, well, this one is a murderer and this one rob banks. this one i better not say. this one, another murderer. >> joining me now from el paso is jacob soboroff and stephanie ple palencia. >> latino makes up up -- surprisingly positive is the way people are responding here in the wake of the shooting. i see calls for unity and a great spirit of togetherness. i was at el dorado high school
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this moment where there was a vigil, a moment of remembrance and a moment of silence for each and everyone at this walmart right here behind me. don't forget, i can see mexico from where i am standing right now. i talked to an immigration attorney who i got to know separation at the border. donald trump separated the first group of people systematically right here in el paso. given that and this person i spoke with remains focus at the task at hands and recovering what's happening here and dealing with the ongoing crisis that is created and exacerbated. i don't think there is a whole lot of interests based on the conversation i had and spending a lot of time focusing on the president of the united states who has had a long time
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relationship with the residence of the city. >> stephanie, you pointed out that 80% of el paso is latino. tell me what prompted you and the others to write the op-ed. >> this super personal for me. i grew up in el paso, texas, i was a couple of blocks where this happens. this is an attack. this is a domestic terrorist attack on el paso, texas. i believe and many of the co-authors signed onto the opt-ed that was published this was a direct assault of donald trump fanning the flames of donald trump's bigotry and racism. we have seen for a long time. somebody took that into a violent act of domestic terrorism killing dozens of people in a place that's 80%
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hispanics. no wonder a lot of people in the country whether they are black or ground are scared to go to school or scared to leave their home. we have to reckooncile. we need to understand this kind of dark root and roots of racism and white supremacy that exists in our country and playing out and i believe are being fuelled by the commander in chief. >> it would not be much of a secret to many latinos that president trump has repeatedly says a lot of these things. he launched his campaign. the washington post has a piece of how trump has latino supporters are sticking with him. trump voters say a lot of bad things are expressed against latinos. we don't know if this is what inspires the guns or not. there are a lot of supremacist
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groups that don't like minority groups. it is not the fault of the president because this has been around from way back in time. >> we do have a long history of racism and white supremacy in this country and what the el paso shooting did was elevate and bring to the forefront to many people's attention that this is something that can't be ignored in this country anymore. and, that it is a big problem that we have to grapple with as a country if we decide to move forward. there are 52 million hispanics in this country today. most of them are american citizens. i am a tenth generalization of new mexicans. longer than manifest destiny was a concept in people's minds. we have to think about how do we take on the roots of racism and white supremacists existed in this long part of history. >> president trump went after beto o'rourke on twitter.
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you spoke to o'rourke about it earlier today, what was his reaction? >> reporter: well, let's think about it in a minute, ali, here in el paso to commemorate 31 lives loss in mass murders. the president chose to spent his time this morning on twitter attacking beto o'rourke because of his name and because of his rally sizes here in el paso. i asked the congresswoman this morning about why congressman o'rourke chose to respond to the president and this is what he told me. >> he's trying to intimidate this community, make us afraid of one another of our differences and the border i an immigrants. we'll not stand down. every single one of us will stand up to be counted. i stand with this community that is so proud of the fact that we
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are a city of people who come from a planet over and making their home here. >> that's a general sentiment not just from beto o'rourke who's running for presidency. that's a general sentiment that i gotten from all kinds of folks here in el paso. this is a time to stand up that not only to stand up for the president of the united states but a time to remember the lives that are loss right here. the president had this adversary relationships with the residence of the city. it is almost as if they do not care about the fact that the president is coming today. that i are intere they are focusing on themselves and their neighbors and both domestically and across the border. seven mexican nationals were killed over the weekend here as well. >> jacob soboroff and stephanie
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valencia. thank you for joining me. we are following breaking news. we have confirmed with virginia police and usa today that the a gannett building in virginia have been evacuated. we have an update from our washington bureau chief, susan page, what do we have? >> this is a mistaken report, a false alarm that they have not found a person with a gun. this report did provoke va evacuation of the entire building and a massive police response there in suburban virginia. >> susan, it is a great news. we are glad to hear it. there is no danger at the usa today building. coming up next, the white house invited tech companies to talk about violent extremism online.
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plus, president trump calls for stronger background checks and red flag laws. what's the holdup? we'll look at the politics of guns. you are watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. watching "& ruhle" live on msnbc at i get to select my room from the floor plan... free wi-fi... ...and the price match guarantee. so with hilton there is no catch. yeah the only catch is i'm never leaving. no i'm serious, i live here now. book at and get the hilton price match guarantee.
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welcome back, president trump is in dayton, ohio. both cities are the site of mass shootings this weekend. we are learning the white house is inviting internet and
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technology companies for a discussion of extremism on this friday. for more, i want to bring in jake ward. the last time the white house convene tech companies. >> it became about politics. do we know who's going through this and what the agenda looks like? >> no, we don't know. major companies like facebook or twitter whether they'll be apart of this. >> we don't know who's coming. >> assuming this is meant for something and it is going to be fruit fu fruitful. what would it look like? >> one of the great difficulties right now is couldn't get inside these companies' data to do on the threat online or extremism. you can try to study the
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attitude. they look at it closely but it is not available to researchers to look at. >> explain why. what would the cost of these tech companies do. >> we got more data on this than anyone. hand it over to researchers to who ever they want. >> there are a couple of projects that siri is going forward. facebook has a project that happens with a bunch of researchers. until then we have not had that. this is the most sensitive. it is the product of these companies. they keep it very much themselves. google openly publishes the algorithm. they did not want to publish the data itself because that's the value of the company. if i weown one of those compani, i am going to get beat up with my political meanings, but in
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the way it sort of sort of their fault because they don't make available to researchers this stuff so that you have political activists cherry picking data to point one political direction or another. we have incredible data about human behavior and about human te tendency, we have not been able to look at it. >> what a change that could make. >> i hope this ends up being a fruitful conversation. some solutions have finding consensus while others are definitely not. president trump as well as many republicans are now advocating for stronger background checks for gun purchases. a bill strengthening background checks passed the house but has been waiting for action in the senate since february. the president calling for red flag laws supporting by senato
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senator lindsey graham. don jr. pushed back on the idea. gun control advocates and many democrats calling to reinstate the ban. republicans in the senate opposed that idea. here was the president today when asked about his position. >> if you look at, you can speak and do your own polling. >> joining me now is our executive director, thank you for joining us. >> no political appetite. these are these moments in history where leadership is important. there are some things that poll well and something that don't. in the face of these mass killings and the ties now of white nationalism in some cases.
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i am not sure a political appetite should be our guns and principles. >> especially when we had so many years of the nra and gun laws. we have seen politicians have not been representing the will of the american people when it comes to the need of gun safety. so you know there is no political will, that could be because republicans are filling the pocket of the nra. we know majority of the americans support restrictions on large capacity and ammunition magazines and assault weapons. that's the majority of gun owners. there is no political appetite because these politicians do not get realize d that the american people are not going to put up with this. we saw a complete change. what used to be a third rail issue is an absolute central issue to voters. when we saw the last congressional election, it was not a huge transition in congress. we saw dozens and dozens of these candidates running on a gun safety platform and winning
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and even in states like texas and georgia and colorado, this is no longer a third rail issue. this is an issue that the american people are demanding on. >> donald trump jr. says it goes around due process. red flag laws to be adjudicated or someone determined to be a threat, they can be delayed in acquiring a gun. >> the way it works is simply similar to a domestic violence protection. you can go in and somebody showing real signs of being a danger to themselves or others. there is a temporary removal of that person's gun to by guns pending a full hearing within 14 days. >> by definition due process. >> you can't go out and take somebody's gun away. >> even just to do the initial
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removal, there has to be credible evidence presented to a judge in order to temporarily remove weapons. there was a lot of care taken in writing these laws to make sure to provide it. >> including people who -- in some cases these are compromise arrangements. >> the drafting was done carefully to take into account of process and second amendment, to ensure this is a crisis temporary measure when we have signs. you look at parkland, this was a situation where there was so much evidence of the threat and risk of that individual presented in the community. there was nothing in place to temporarily remove those guns. these laws, i get asked questions what laws will present it? i want to emphasize that before we look at passing federal red flag laws or the legislation
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that is, we must pass a universal background check laws. they can't actually be properly implemented without universal background checks even if you have a restriction, if you can just go to a gun show or online. those laws won't be effective. >> you deal with it all the time. do you sense the momentum. does the president say we should do this? will that tip the balance of anything? will it get us a vote in the united states senate? >> it should for sure. >> right now the obstacle is mitch mcconnell. he has not brought it, he needs to call the senate back in. they need to vote on this. the president is behind this. we know the american people are demanding it. congress are behind it. mitch mcconnell who are in the pocket of the nra taking million of dollars of contributions and refusing to call it for a vote. when 90% of americans launch
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this. he refused to call it for a vote. who does he represent? he does not represent the american people. i think it is pathetic and we are seeing the american people suffering the toll of it. >> robyn, thank you for joining us again. it is not a good week that we are talking a few times a week but it looks like we are making progress. >> president trump's trade war with china is hitting the market hard this week. thanks to the renewed fear of china manipulating its currency and making its products cheaper than america. we'll break down how currency manipulation works and how it can affect you. >> you are watching "velshi & ruhle," live on msnbc. g "velshi ruhle," live on msnbc. johnson & johnson is a baby company.
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one of those weeks when the dow is at 145.55. the trade war between the united states and china is plaescalate. we are talking about currency manipulation. it is going to affect you. i want to talk about what the treasure department means when it accused china being a
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currency manipulator. >> that's an escalation of the trade war. they're not sure where this ends or how bad it gets. let's talk about this. under the competitive act of 1988, the united states treasury required to analyze the exchange rate policies of other countries. the treasury secretary must consider whether countries are manipulating their currency to gain some sort of advantage over the united states. here is what happens. treasury secretary steve mnuchin on monday accused china's central bank of letting their currency, the you u.n. fall below below $7 to $1. it makes china's products
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cheaper and could give them what the u.s. calls "unfair" competitive advantage in international trade. why do you care about this? say you are at the store looking to buy air conditioner. the one made in china used to be $200. you are incline to buy the ones that are made in china. the chinese made air conditioner. for argument sake, the american make conditioners for $250 and the chinese make conditioners for $250. now it may makes sense to buy the one made in usa and support american jobs. now, china manipulates its currency to work around its tariffs. they make their currency worth less which means you get more than a dollar. that's now available for $200
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instead of thinking that american air conditioner, you may be back thinking of the chinese product again. they have made their product cheaper by devaluing their currency. >> china central bank is reje rejecting -- it would seriously undermine the international financial order and trigger financial market turmoil. this move by china is being viewed as a retaliation effort by the u.s. government. so what happens now? the u.s. is going to have to engage with the international monetary fund to try to find a solution. the president reserves the right to impose further penalties on china which you understand what is leading to all the markets of uncertainty. joining me is editor and chief,
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caleb silver. china has done something that america can't do. america can't take some action to lower its currency to make american goods more competitive. >> the main reason for that is the u.s. dollars is not pegged to another currency. the u.s. dollar is a free floating currency that's valued at what the market says, based on its supply and demand. what can we do to lower the value of u.s. dollars. there are other ways but it is much more complicated. currency manipulator is mostly symbolic but it does require that the higher ups have to get other partners involved. >> china also make some other decisions. certain american agricultural outputs. that's a big deal. we produce a lot of soybean and they go to china and they get
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manufactured in all sorts of things. now we got things like soybeans or certain kind of almond that are stuck here without a buyer. >> china kanako satcan go to va markets to get that, brazil or others. it is not enough to offset the losses if this goes on everyone loen longer. this is the 10-year treasury note. it has been getting lower and lower. >> it is broken 2% by a few weeks. the reason this is happening. the treasury notice usually considered one of the safest securities in the world because of u.s. economy is pretty stable but folks have been bailing out of the stock market into
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treasures but the yield is down. >> when demand goes up, the price goes up. >> if you are wondering why everybody is selling at the stock market, this is what they are doing. >> in go gold and treasuries. everything from mortgages to autoloans are based in part off of the u.s. tenure-year. this is not a good sign for the overall health of the economy. the only good news is consumers may be paying less to borrow money at the moment. it is a signal. >> money gotten cheaper but not at a good time. >> caleb silver. thank you. >> how to fight domestic terrorism. the u.s. government found effective way to stop global terrorism. w we'll speak with the man who once supported radical jihad. you are watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. watching "& ruhle" live on msnbc this is nice.
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they have been planted. >> 2020 presidential candidate, cory booker, this morning addressing the growing number of hate crimes in the united states. in the wake of the el paso shooting and the suspected killer's white supremacist online spree. u.s. are grappling of how to identify violent extremists. once they are identified, what do you do with them then? lessons from the 19-yearlong struggle with extremism like isis and al-qaida as american looks to de-radicalize white youths. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me ali. >> i want the give our viewers a little background on you. you are a former extremist yourself, tell us about your journey. how did you get taken down the
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road of extremiology and how di you get out of it? >> i was a teenager and got caught at a house party because of guilt. i decided to get really religious that's where i went to pakistan and i had a chance to encountered with the taliban and began promoting their views when i got back to canada. it was after the 9/11, i realized that my views were wrong. i went to syria and studied islamic studies. i realized that my views were deviant views and basically came back to canada and became a walk-in for the security intelligence service. >> talk to me about how similar you think that journey into extremism and your deradicalization is or could be to this white nationalist extremism we are seeing. >> there are similarities but
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differences between the two groups. looking at similarities, basic human encyclopedpsychology, the you are apart of a vanguard. these are things that are across cultural lines. it is found with vjihadists. at the oechend of the day, the things that are common for both, ideology does not resonate and grie and -- >> it does not make sense. ideology are our actions and enabling ideas. the second part is our ideology are not acted upon. if there are bad things happening to your group, the ideology does not make sense. it has nowhere to be rooted.
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both jihadist and white supre supremacists have an ideal on two. that's the interplay that's axon between both. >> are you hopeful that if we put our minds to it that we can solve this problem? >> absolutely. i think what's lacking is federal statues and many fbi officials have said that it is just a lack of federal statute. you put the law on the books, they'll go at it. >> thank you for joining me. a former agent of the intelligence service former radic radical, somebody that was de-radicalized. >> 214 members of the house wrote to mitch mcconnell demanding immediately he calls the senate back into session. they want to pass the bipartisan
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background checks act. a press relief from gun violence, chairman mike thompson says both these bipartisan bills were passed by the house in february of this year. it has been blocked for a vote by mcconnell for more than 160 days. we want to go to dayton, ohio, the mayor is speaking at the press at dayton's city mayor. >> i was here on sunday and much of the afternoon with the mayor and the police chief and we saw some of the first responders that saves lives. we met all police officers who saves the lives of dozens of people. both of us spoke with the president right when he got off air force one. both the mayor and i ask the president to call on senator mcconnell to bring the senate back in session this week to tell the senate that he wants to
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pass the background check. i asked the president to promise me and the american people that he'll sign that bill after he spoken out in support of it with senator mcconnell. he only said we'll get things done. later i asked the president to if i said if you care about mental health and many people who support the gun lobby consistently -- well, it is not guns, it is mental health. it is not. it is mostly too many guns in the streets. if he cares about mental health, the important thing is not to repeat the affordable care act and not to cut it. that's essential. medicaid matters so much for people that struggle with mental health issues. the last thing i said to him, we just met with police officers in the hospital and the conference room. the president says we want to
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give honors and awards to these officers. a group of 20 or 30 people respectfully, the most important thing you can do is take these assault weapons off the streets so so they don't have to go up against those assault weapons and they need to take down a shooter when they need to make an arrest. >> how would you characterize your conversation with the president? do you feel like he was hearing you? >> i think he heard me. i don't know if he will take action. i'm hoping for the people of dayton that he does, but both the senator and i spoke very directly what we've been saying the whole time about the need for common sense gun legislation. >> senator, the mass shootings have been politicized, democrats and republicans pointing fingers at each other. don't both parties take blame in the inability to find solutions to these mass shootings? >> no.
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tell me why you believe that. >> there have been mass shootings under democrat and republican zraadministrations. >> respects have dun in with the nra. the gun lobby gives millions for republicans and spens millions against democrats like me that have stood up to the nra. we can't get anything done in the senate because mitch mcconnell and the president of the united states are in bed with the gun lobby. there's a lot of things we can work on to make this work better. guns is a big, big part of this. certainly mental health services matter, but the same people that say it's mental health, it's not too many guns on the street are the same people that try to cut medicaid and the same people that try to repeal the affordable care act. be honest about this. guns is a big, big part of this and we have a whole political party in this country now with the exception of congressman turner, i want to add now who's been on the right side that's in bed with the gun lobby. you can call it grid lock, but
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it's because of that special interest group. that swamp that has a lock on the government. >> senator, both you and the mayor have been critical of this president before and in fact you, senator, initially you were not going to meet with the president. you changed your mind. i'm just wondering, a lot of the american people feel as though we've been here before. we've heard all this before. we've been in this situation in the past. did either of you hear anything at all that would lead you to believe that this time something might be different? >> i changed my mind in large about coming. i didn't want to in any way encourage the president's racist talk and divisive talk. i came because the mayor asked me to come and i came because i thought maybe i'd have a chance to talk to the president about mental health issues, about not cutting medicaid and i'd get a chance to talk to the president about putting pressure on senator mcconnell to ban assault weapons which congress did for a 10-year period once,
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bipartisanly, and to get the president -- because if the president tells the congress pass an assault weapon ban, if the president says pass legislation for universal background checks, the republican congress and the senate will move on it and the house will undoubtedly move on it. we can do that. >> this for us in dayton, we hope so. i'm not holding my breath. too often we see complete inaction because they're waiting just for time, for people to forget that nine people died in dayton because of a gun that was too -- that shouldn't be legal, frankly. we pointed out, i pointed out to the president that now governor, former senator mike dewine voted for the assault weapons ban. there was a time when this was bipartisan. and so we're looking for those people in congress to come together because the majority of americans agree, so this should be an action. do i think that we're going to see another mass shooting
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tomorrow or friday? probably. because washington will not move. >> when you looked in his eyes, did he seem like someone who was ready to take action or did he seem like someone who will let this, as i said, die down. >> this is the first time i met the president so i don't think my ability to look in his eyes is going to give you any insight on what he's thinking. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm sorry? [ inaudible question ] >> the conversation at the airport was pretty brief. he was kind of moving pretty quickly towards us and it was, like, mr. president, the city of dayton and the people of dayton really are looking forward to some action. that's what you can do to help us is to get some action on common sense gun legislation. >> did he specifically talk about his tone? >> no. i'm very concerned about a president that divides in his rhetoric and plays to race in his rhetoric and is racist. i remember president bush whom i agreed with about very little
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wanted to privatize social security and lied about the iraq war, but after september 11th he went to a mosque and said muslims -- president obama after all the shootings, sandy hook and charleston went to comfort them and talk ds ed in healing language. i wish this president would do that. we did not talk about that. we talked about medicaid and getting the president to move. i don't know the president, but i will continue to call publicly on all of this. >> [ inaudible question ] >> he was received by the patients. >> what did he say? >> he was comforting and he did the right things and melania did the right things. it's his job in part to comfort people. >> the police department sent a tweet about an hour ago for the president to stop by the oregon district. there were well over 100 people there.
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what are your thoughts on that decision? >> i think it was a good decision not to stop in the oregon district. >> why is that? >> how many of you were here for the sunday vigil? any of you? so you saw just some of the anger and agitation in our community about it. i think a lot of people that are owning businesses in that district aren't interested in the president being there and a lot of the time his talk can be very divisive and that's the last thing we need in dayton. >> how does he feel about your community's response? >> i've been proud of it. i haven't paid a lot of attention to the response today, so you might know something i don't know, because the senator and i literally just got back from the hospital. we didn't have cell phone service and then came right here. >> i would say as someone who doesn't live in dayton and admires the mayor so much, i would say this community has been extraordinary from the night it happened with the police to the rescue people that showed up from all the suburbs, five from the city and another
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15 from the suburbs got there within 20 minutes. the people at the hospital were terrific and people showed when the president of the united states came, they showed respect for the office. a number of them said to me they're not great admirers of him privately, but they clearly showed respect for the office because the president of the united states is in town. that's one of the reasons i'm here in addition to the mayor's request, but i think this town has been just extraordinary from the kkk rallies to the rally to what happened in the tornado in trotwood and here and in beaverer creek. >> what were you talking to senator portman about, what b what you did today and whether or not you two will work together on trying to make the change? >> rob and i didn't talk substance about about these issues. we talked for a moment about our work on pensions. it wasn't a time to spend a lot of time talking to each other. we have a good relationship. we differ on the issue of guns. we hope we can find some common grounds on this, but so far we
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haven't. and let's leave it at that. >> mayor, what can you tell us about what you will tell people about the oregon district in terms of suburbs, in terms of people being willing to go back there after this, you know, the next few days and the coverage dies down? >> we want people to come. this is a local spot. these are local business owners with local restaurants, so we want people to come and really support the district. we'll be having some activities over the coming months for people to come down in larger form. we'll hear more about that later. the best thing you can do is, number one, you donate to the dayton fund and the dayton foundation for those victims that have been hurt. number two, you can call the president and senator portman and thank congressman turner for action around guns. and also your state legislature because the dewine stuff is coming, so there will be movement there. calling and calling about i'm
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from dayton and i want action on this will be very important. number three, you can support our local businesses in the oregon district. those are three things people can do really easy. >> the oregon district as you know far and wide is known for what may be almost anyplace in the state a bunch of individual locally-owned businesses, not chains and all that. >> do you have any plans to meet with the betts family? have you reached out to them? >> they're a victim family too because of megan. we have victim advocates for every single family. they know very well if we want to reach out to us they're there in a heartbeat, but we know how tough this is for families and we're giving them space. i do plan ongoing to some of the visitations in the coming weeks. [ inaudible question ] >> i can't really comment on it because i haven't seen it yet. we've got one more question. >> senator, you were calling on mitch mcconnell to call the senate back since sunday. any progress on that front and with portman saying that he feels there's consensus on the
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issue of expanded background checks? >> i have repeatedly and decided to come to dayton right away and went on a national show and called on mcconnell to do that. i talked to senator schumer since then. he's on board. a number of democrats have now called on senator mcconnell to come back. i have seen no action yet. mcconnell's got to break his addiction to drug company money and he -- not drug company. well, drug company money, too, actually. to break his addiction to gun lobby money and he hasn't seemed to even take a step in that direction. >> that's it, guys. >> do you think this helps the healing in having the president come here? >> i think the victims and the first responders were grateful that the president of the united states came to dayton. i really want to thank senator brown for coming, too. he got up early from cleveland and cam


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