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little bebe grow up before our eyes would be for visitors and animal lovers unbearable that. wraps up things for me this hour. ali velshi picks things up right now. i see you still have -- >> i was looking for my tie. we gave you an hour off to go find a tie. >> i don't know where it could've gone. today i don't know what compelled me to do it, but i came in without it. i put it in my pocket and i'm ready to put it on. this is why -- i am a creature of habit. and the minute you break from habit -- >> this is what happens. >> this is what happens. . >> i am a mess. it's thursday, august the 29th. dorian is expected to remain an extremely dangerous hurricane through the weekend. that's the warning coming from the national hurricane center. right now dorian is a category one hurricane. but it is likely to strengthen a lot. in fact, possibly up to a category four as it moves closer to the united states threatening to hit florida. most of florida is in dorian's
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cone of uncertainty. residents there are bracing for the worst stocking up ahead of the storm while the u.s. virgins islands are recovering with scattered power outages throughout the area. joining me with the latest on the storm's track is nbc news meteorologist michelle grossman. michelle, tell us about where this is headed. there are a whole lot of populated areas wondering if this is coming to them. >> that's right, ali. a whole lot of populated areas at the worst time, labor day weekend. we are talking about life-threatening flash flooding. we also have a storm coming to southern florida tomorrow -- on friday. so that's not going to help situations. let's talk about where it is right now. it's moving to the northwest north of the virgin islands, also puerto rico. so still a category one storm. we haven't had an advisory since earlier this morning around 11:00. it's not really going to be until 5:00 until we see an updated information. so the location 220 miles north/northwest of san juan, puerto rico. don't know where that came from.
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winds at 85 miles per hour and it's moving to the west at 13 miles per hour. it's keeping its speed. we have seen that speed over the past few days. we are going to keep it at a pretty fast clip, and then it's going to really slow down as it nears the u.s. coast and also bahamas. that is not good news because it allows it to kind of sit and spin and just drop more rain in those areas. category one storm as we go throughout time, it's not going to take much and it's not going to take long to go from a category three storm. there is no land interaction to tear this thing apart. we are over the open waters. that is just fuel that is going to help give it its oomph. that's saturday 8:00. sometime between saturday and sunday, a category four storm. so that is the latest change as of the 11:00 advisory. i will be very curious to see what happens at the 5:00 advisory. now it's going over the northwestern bahamas. here you want to have a hurricane preparedness place in plan. i do anticipate a hurricane watch later on tonight, maybe tomorrow in parts of the bahamas. it's going to move off to the
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north. now it's an interesting track. e west, almost parallel or perpendicular, excuse me, right to the coast. category four storm, that's what we're expecting when it's going to make landfall in florida. but notice this cone. it's still way too early to determine where this is going to land, anywhere from southern florida up to parts of southern georgia. so this is something that we're definitely going to watch over the next several days. we are looking at lots of rain, life-threatening. we have a new moon in place that's going to help add some life-threatening storm surge as well. >> michelle, let me ask you this. let's say it stays on that exact track, right? it's going in somewhere north of west palm beach. if you're in miami right now and you are boarding up your windows, if that stone goes in, how big is it in a place like miami or jacksonville? >> so it's not a huge storm. you and i have talked about hurricanes that are just huge and wide and miles and miles. so it's not the biggest storm we've seen, but still we are going to see storm surges
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because we have that new moon just adds to that storm surge. we are also going to see heavy, heavy rain. florida has had above-average rain. we are going to have a storm tomorrow. so even places like miami is going to get rain out of this storm. >> all right, michelle, thank you very much. michelle grossman, we are going to be checking in with you later through the hour and every hour. florida is under a state of emergency as dorian continues northward. i want to go to nbc's mariana atencio who is on the ground. mariana, you have seen storms you were covering irma two years ago in florida right there. back again. they are looking at a devastating storm. what's different now about the way preparations are being undertaken? >> reporter: the urgency, ali, is definitely here. the lessons from irma two years ago, you said it i was covering it on the ground a couple of blocks from where i am now on ocean drive.
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and i don't know if you remember those pictures, but we were getting slammed with that rain that michelle was talking about. and irma was a similar case to what dorian could be. the storm hit north of miami and north of miami beach. but the devastation was felt here, the effects there were downed trees, there were homes without power. my own house in miami, ali, we were without power for five days. >> and i can see the urgency now even with my own family. my husband two years ago was like, oh, it's going to be fine and again we didn't have power for five days. this time he is frantically calling me. my sister was in line for gas for 20 minutes. water is running out in some of the local grocery stores. doesn't mean that they won't restock that water, but people three days out are definitely making preparations. here in miami beach, they are pumping out the water with vacuum trucks. the they are installing temporary generators. they are boarding up. let's listen to what jimmy morlz
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told me earlier before. >> we are a barrier island with a lot of low-lying areas. so we are at the front line of any kind of hurricane like this. so we have to prepare. and we don't have a lot of time because it's one thing to take care of your house, it takes us 48 hours at least, maybe longer to secure our buildings, to protect our residents. so we don't have the luxury of waiting till saturday or sunday. we've got to start now. the worst-case scenario we did too much and it was a great exercise. but in the best case scenario, we are ready. >> reporter: a city like miami beach, ali, has no shelters. now the mayor of miami did say in a press conference earlier today that they have capacity to house 100,000 people in shelters. but again you don't want to get to that point. authorities telling people to prepare as if the storm was coming toward miami and miami beach. ali, back to you. >> it's good to know that people are taking the preparation seriously. this is a hard one though, mariana, because you saw what michelle grossman said about
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where this storm could come in. the cone of uncertainty is very big. we are talking about the worst of it probably sunday night into monday morning. >> reporter: and also remember i flew in from puerto rico this morning. people in puerto rico were expecting it to hit the western part of the island, then the eastern part of the island. then it didn't really impact puerto rico at all. so it's definitely a very unpredictable storm. and that has people on their toes. ali? >> mariana, good to see you. and let's go to washington where the department of justice has declined to prosecute former fbi director james comey for leaking memos that detailed his conversations with president trump in 2017. but the office of the inspector general found that comey did violate doj and fbi policies as well as the fbi's employment agreement by keeping copies of four memos in a personal safe and asking a friend to leak one
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of those memos after his firing. comey tweeted his response to the report writing, i don't need a public apology from those who defame me but a quick message with a sorry we lied about you would be nice. to all those two spent two years talking about me going to jail, ask yourselves why you still trust people who gave you bad information for so long including the president. joining me now nbc's julia ainsley who has read through the report. now if you look at james comey's responses, they don't seem in line with a finding that he did something wrong. he specifically talking about the allegation that he leaked things to the media. >> reporter: right. he talks about classified information. and nowhere in this report do they say that he leaked classified information to the media. they deem that memo that was given to "the new york times" and then other news organizations about that key meeting with donald trump in february of 2017 where he says if the president asked him to kind of let go of this whole
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flynn investigation thing. he said that that was actually confidential and so that's what comey's zero in on in his response that he is not someone who should be criminally prosecuted, and he was let off the hook. but this report does not let james comey off the hoochdget it's very scathing. and one quote i'd like to read for you. it says former director comey failed to live up to his responsibility by not safeguarding sensitive information obtained during the course of his fbi employment. he used it to create public pressure for official action. he set a dangerous precedent for over 35,000 current fbi employees. comey should not have taken it upon himself to leak this to the media because it was his intention to try to get a bigger investigation going after he had been fired from his role as director. shortly after that robert mueller was appointed to oversee this investigation. so it did have that desired
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result. and the inspector general comes down on him for that for breaking fbi and doj policy. >> is there any potential follow-up from lawmakers? is there anything for anybody to do other than just to react to this? >> i think we will see some political football. i don't think this is something where you want to haul more people in for more hearings, although somehow they find a way of squeezing that out of a lot of things these days. right now we have seen from republicans like jim jordan who's been critical of the russia investigation saying, look, this shows what his intentions were and said people are using that underneath -- i think what everyone's really waiting for next, and this may give us a window into that, is how the inspector general is going to come out with his findings, what he will say about the origins of the investigation. and then there is another investigation into that led by john durham out of connecticut about the origins of the russia investigation. and seeing how hard the inspector general was on comey here, it's hard to imagine that
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they would go any easier on people who decided to open that investigation. but, again, no criminal conduct here, no wrongdoing. and really, ali, we all know that there is a lot of confidential information that is shared in washington. that's how we make news. it's how we shine light on sometimes injustices or things that shouldn't be done. but it's not classified. and so it's really important to pull those thing as part. >> julia, thank you. it is always something you do for us. you make it all easy to understand. julia ainsley for us in washington. since the report was released the president has had plenty to say about his former fbi director. last hour he tweeted, quote, perhaps never in the history of our country has someone been more thoroughly disgraced and excoriated than james comey in the just released inspector general report. his 2020 election campaign team also said, quote, james comey was a rogue fbi director who didn't think laws and rules applied to him, and he deserved
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to be fired. he hid information and violated well-established fbi guidelines all because of his personal vendetta against the president. joining me now chief white house correspondent hallie jackson. hallie, this decision from the inspector general at the fbi doesn't make anybody fully happy. james comey has tweeted that he is exonerated. and obviously the trump team is tweeting that he's the worst guy in the world. >> reporter: it is kind of an ink blot test for where you are in the political spectrum and how you view this report that, frankly, as julia ainsley pointed out, does blast james comey. it's not just the president himself tweeting in his campaign talking about this. we now have in just the last couple of minutes a formal statement from the white house press secretary very frankly saying james comey in her view is a proven liar and leaker. stephanie grisham goes on to say that because could emmy in her words shamefully leaked information to the press in
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blatant violation of fbi policies, the nation was forced to endure a politically motivated two-year witch hunt going on to say the inspector general said he violated the most basic obligations of confidentiality that he owed to the united states government and to the american people. that last bit is a direct quote from the report referring to how comey has acknowledged that he was hoping by sharing this information publicly to trigger the special counsel investigation. and when you look at how this has become politicized, the report, comey, generally is a light ring rod anyway for both conservatives and liberals. there are some democrats who say, listen, what james comey did happened at an extraordinary political moment, that essentially the argument is he did what he had to do to make sure that this would see the light of day and without comey the special counsel may never have been appointed. and here we are two years later. we may never have known what
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president trump may have been done according to robert mueller. so that is the argument that you're hearing from some on the left. i think from some of the right senator kennedy said this proves he is a meat head. so it does depend on where you are in the political spectrum for how you view this. comey himself is defending himself that at the time that he shared this memo with his law professor friend, nothing in that was classified at the time. it was later classified of course at its lowest level but not at the time he released it. so that's the piece that comey is seasoning on. given the report, it almost feels like we're back around to where we started. you either like him or you don't like him and there's not many people in the middle. >> and whatever came down today probably just fit into what your interpretation was to start this. let's talk about this hurricane headed to florida possibly as strong as a category four by the time it gets there overnight sunday into monday morning. what's the response from the
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white house? >> reporter: well, let me play it for you, ali, because president trump is out, not publicly. talking about the establishment of the space command. but he was on fox radio, and i want to play for you what he had to say. >> fema and all of the first responders did an incredible job with puerto rico. then we got lucky, it took a different course. we got really lucky. but we were ready at puerto rico, and we're very ready also in florida, and we have a great governor there. he is doing an incredible job. very popular too. he won the election and he's really become even more popular. he's doing a really fantastic job. >> reporter: stark contrast there, ali, with the way that president trump just within the last 24 hours talked about the mayor of san juan, puerto rico. luckily, puerto rico has avoided a direct hit. but all eyes are on florida as this storm continues to intensify. keep in mind the president is expected to be out of the country this weekend. he's got that trip to poland set to come back home monday.
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>> hallie, good to see you my friend. coming up next, the trade war is one thing, but the white house has moved this year severely undercutting the ethanol industry is the crack in trust that could cost president trump his support in the midwest among farmers. we are going to hear from some of those farmers after the break. you are watching msnbc. (door bell rings) it's open! hey. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. so you can experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure.
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american farmer. but some farmers say they are frustrated with him because his trade war has affected sales of soy beans and other agricultural products to china. now the president is facing backlash from a group of farmers over another issue. the president promised to defend the renewable fuel standard, which requires refineries to put a certain amount of biofuels such as corn-based ethanol into their fuels. but the trump administration has granted waivers to 31 small refineries, some of which are owned by big oil companies. those exemptions have reduced the demand for ethanol and 15 ethanol plants have shut down. it's also contributed to a drop in corn prices. all of this is not sitting too well with republican senator charles grassley who represents iowa, the largest ethanol-producing state in the country. >> they screwed us when we didn't -- when they issued 31 waivers compared to less than ten waivers during all the obama years. and we thought that was bad.
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what's really bad isn't a waiver. it's that it's being granted to people that really aren't hardshiped. and that's where it ought to be identified. >> president trump tried to ease the tension today tweeting that his administration is planning a giant package related to ethanol and that farmers will be happy with it. he didn't say what the giant package might be. nbc's vaughn hillyard has been talking with corn farmers and ethanol producers in iowa. he joins us now from the town of shenandoah. vaughn, it's a complicated issue to understand. tell me how these waivers affect corn producers and ethanol producers. >> reporter: yeah. you head out this way, ali, across the midwest and there's pretty much a consensus of opposition to these waivers. because the ones that are taking the fall as a result of this are not only the corn and ethanol plants like the one behind us which is owned by green plains. they have 13 different ethanol plants around the region.
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they say that they have lost $150 million alone in just the last year because of these exemptions. but you also look at just last week there was an indiana-based corn ethanol plant that just shut down. just yesterday one up in minnesota announced its closure. because of that the decrease in demand for the ethanol. what you see is that ripple effect going out into the farms. we talked to one farmer yesterday who told us that, look, he voted for the president back in 2016, he wants to vote for him again in 2020 believing at one point that he was there to defend the american farmer taking on the trade battle with china which he supported. he said, but this one makes him scratch his head because that renewable fuel standard was a campaign promise that president trump made back in 2015. in 2016 two to the agricultural industry to the region. i want to introduce you to todd becker. he is the ceo of this corn ethanol plant that i was referencing. this is a little bit of what he told us in our conversation about the impact of these
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waivers. in the last 12 months our company has lost over $150 million making ethanol under this epa policy. so that's where we are working with the administration to say, hey, this has gone too far. this is not just hurting us. the we just happen to be a corporate entity that can withstand this. but there are a lot of ethanol refineries that are closing that are owned by farmers. >> reporter: why have you guys lost money? >> we have lost money because, number one, our demand has been destroyed by these smaller refinery exemptions. and you have got to fix this. your epa went too far. >> reporter: you're looking at real financial consequences here, especially in these towns of a few thousand people. when you have a corn ethanol plant closed at this plant behind us there are 50 folks and they were saying another 400 were relying on the money coming out of this corn ethanol plant. this is of concern to president trump. and that's why he tweeted this
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morning that he'd be coming out with, quote, a great package for those in the ethanol industry because if you look, was the farmers that you could argue are his strongest base of support even as this trade war unfolded they continued to say that they stood by the president. if you look at the likes of michigan, of minnesota, of wisconsin, of iowa, if the democrats are able to even chip off some of that support from the rural parts of these states including farmers, including those working in the agricultural industry, the president may be at risk of losing these midwestern states. amy klobuchar has really been the most outspoken. >> vaughn, thank you. it's a complicated story. it vaughn hillyard for us in shenandoah, iowa. coming up next, brand-new polling shows that a majority of voters see climate change as an emergency and think the united states isn't doing enough to address it. >> we will break down the numbers after the break. you are watching msnbc.
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we heard from officials in palm beach county, florida, just moments ago as they breed of residents on how the area is getting ready for hurricane dorian. let's listen in. >> we want to drive home more
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than anything is after the storm is over, we would like our residents to stay in their homes. we do not want you on the road. it is dangerous on the road. we have powerlines down. we have traffic signals that are not working. flooded streets is a very, very dangerous situation. so we implore you to remain in your homes. that is why we ask you to prepare for seven days so that you don't have to leave your homes. >> local officials are telling residents to prepare their homes and families for what could be devastating flooding. we are monitoring the path of this storm. we will continually bring you updates. all right. there are questions about whether climate change is playing a role in the growing intensity of hurricane dorian. as the storm makes its way toward the southeastern united states, we are learning more about how americans feel about climate change. a quinnipiac poll finds that 56% of registered voters nationwide
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say that climate change is an emergency. 42% do not. pollsters also asked voters about their reviews on other issues including gun violence and prejudice in the united states. joining me now is mary snow for the quinnipiac university poll. mary, gooed to see you again. let's talk about climate. there is no big distinction amongst people who think climate change is real in america. the question you asked is whether you think it's an emergency. let's see what democrats 84% said it's an emergency of democrats only 14% think it isn't. only 18% of republicans think it's an emergency. 81% don't. but of independents, again, a big majority think it is an emergency. >> yes. so you see partisan divide on this question about urgency. not everyone sees the urgency of climate change. when you take a look also at age groups, young people 18 to 34 lead the way in terms of saying that climate change is an
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emergency. now, while not everyone sees this urgency, take a look at the number of people saying that the united states is not doing enough to address climate change. that's 67%. that's the highest level. we have been asking this question since 2015. it's been inching higher. this is the highest its been. >> and this is a really important issue for the candidates because while a majority of americans understand that climate change is real and a problem, the issue is to what degree do people prioritize it over other things that they are concerned about? >> correct. and right now we are seeing more than half of registered voters saying this is an emergency. >> let's look at gun violence. overall, 72% of voters say that congress needs to do more about this. when you break it down by party, this is interesting. 50% of republicans, 93% of democrats, 75% of independents. so again, this sort of comes in the face of what you hear sometimes from the nra, most americans agree gun violence is a problem.
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>> and some of the numbers in this section are pretty stark because they're eye-popping numbers. majority support. you hear so much debate about gun control. but when you take a look also at the overall question about stricter gun laws, 60% say yes they support stricter gun laws. 60% also say that they support a ban on assault weapons. >> let's pull that up the way we break this down when it comes to universal background checks, 93% support -- and we hear this from everybody when we talk about gun control on this show. we say there's overwhelming support for universal background checks. 82% support licensing of guns. 80% support red flag laws which are in place in about 20 states. 60% as you just mentioned support an assault weapons ban. and only 46%, that's the lowest response is on a mandatory assault weapons buy-back. >> that's where we see the divide as this question about a mandatory buy-back of assault weapons. but i do also want to add that
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republicans and take a look at the universal background checks, 89% support, 69% support requiring a license. so it's high level of support across the board on some of these very specific measures. >> let's talk about immigration and prejudice. your poll shows that 51% of respondents say that prejudice against immigrants is a very serious problem. 23% say it's a somewhat serious problem. so an overwhelming majority there. however, this is interesting. 64% believe that the level of hatred and prejudice in the united states has increased since 2016. 28% say it hasn't changed at all. and i'm always fascinated by the outlier on this one. 6% say that prejudice and hatred have decreased since 2016. i almost want to meet these 6% saying where do you live and where do you get your news from. >> right. i mean, with all that has been in the headlines and in the wake of the recent shootings, we took a look at the level of prejudice and hatred in the united states and also take a look at specific
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groups. and it's a pretty stark snapshot of the country with these numbers. >> do you know how that has trended over time? i -- >> it has been very steady. we have been asking this question for a while now in terms of the hatred and prejudice, and it has been fairly high. >> mary, thank you. as always, mary snow is an analyst with quinnipiac university poll. up next, president trump rolls back another obama-era regulation put in place to protect our environment. a move that actually has environmentalists and oil and gas companies on the same page. you are watching msnbc. to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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the trump administration is moving to roll back more obama-era environmental regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gas emissions, a primary contributor to climate change. the environmental protection agency announced today that it want to reverse rules requiring the oil and gas industry to install technology to monitor and limit methane emissions from well heads from tanks and pipeline networks and to conduct more frequent inspections for leaks. methane accounts for 10% of u.s. greenhouse gas emissions, and the oil and gas industry is the largest emitter of methane. the eof course a estimates that the proposed changes will save the industry between 17 and $19 million a year. this is notable because it's exposed a split between large and small oil and gas companies. smaller companies say it's too costly for them to perform the
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leak inspections. larger companies say unrestricted leaks of methane could undermine their pitch that natural gas is a clean source of energy. her company will keep working to reduce emissions. quote, we believe sound environmental policies are foundational to the vital role natural gas can play in the energy transition and have made clear our support of the 2016 law to regulate methane from new and modified on-shore sources. environmental groups have already slammed the move and threatened to fight it in court. joining me is senior director of the california energy program at the environmental defense front. tim, we deal with a lot of complicated issues on this show, and our viewers are primed for it. this one boggles the mind. first of all, what is the purpose of removing a regulation that is meant to prevent the escape of methane into the air? >> well, the trump
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administration has made many questionable moves since they have come to office. this one is probably one of the biggest head-scratchers. when environmentalists and major oil companies are on the same page, you really have to ask why we need this direction. methane contributes to climate change pollution about 25% of the manmade warm air we are experiencing today is because of methane and oil and gas is the largest contributor of it. so when we look at that 17 and 19 million in savings, that's less than the lobbying budget of some of the activists that are trying to pressure for this move to happen. >> right. and so who do you think leads them? what do you think this is about? because there are a lot of regulations that some reasonable people can agree maybe need to be amended. this didn't seem to be one that was pushed for by a group. the oil and gas lobby is the biggest in the country. it's one of the biggest lobbying groups there is. >> i mean, you look at some of the actors in the industry, and
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the lowest common denominator sometimes yields the result that this administration panders to. you look at similar results with the car standards where they looked to roll back california's ability. so they're looking to stop the fight against climate change and looking to keep the status quo. this is a problem because not only does it imperil future generations but benzeen is a cancer causing compound, places like the four corner region in new mexico that are experiencing fog. this is an issue that needs to be addressed and that's why the oil industry is supporting moving forward with responsible standards. the only way we can keep natural gases part of this transition is if you control the methane emissions from it. it completely erodes the environmental case for keeping natural gas and we think that that's why the oil majors they want to continue to move forward with these responsible regulations. >> let me just tell you what the epa administrator andrew wheeler who doesn't really think climate
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change is all that serious a matter. he said that the trump administration recognizes that methane is valuable and that the industry has incentive to minimize leaks and maximize its use. while methane emissions across the natural gas industry have fallen by nearly 15%. here's a sentence that i want you to help me with. our regulation should not stifle this innovation and progress. what's the argument that the regulation limiting the amount of methane released in the production of natural gas is stifling innovation and progress? >> well, if it were the case that the pure price of natural gas would encourage these companies to keep it in the pipes, then we wouldn't be sitting here today talking about a regulation that can reduce nearly 11 million metric tons of methane emissions from going into the air. so we've seen that the voluntary approach just doesn't work. the industry doesn't have enough incentive. they'd rather go drill new wells than to control the emissions from the wells that they currently have. so innovation, yes, it is
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occurring. but regulatory certainty is what creates that oin violation from occurring. the prolonged price of gas isn't high enough to get these industries moving, especially for the lowest common denominators that are impacting communities across the nation. >> tim o'connor is the director of the california energy program at the environmental defense fund. msnbc's teaming up on climate change with georgetown university and our daily planet, an independent environmental news agency september 19th and 20th. up next, this ain't your mother's marijuana. stern warning about the increased potency of weed and its damaging effects on the developing brain. you are watching msnbc.
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government research has found that -- has revealed that one in four teen pregnant women said they used marijuana over the past month. that number has doubled what it was in the early 2000s. using marijuana during pregnancy can be dangerous to the fetus. smoking, vaping or ingesting pot can cause problems with attention, memory, and motivation as the brain continues to develop in a person's -- into a person's mid-20s. joining me now is nbc news medical contributor. there's two issues here. this is the -- that marijuana has changed and even if marijuana hadn't changed, there are certain populations for whom it is not necessarily safe to consume. that's correct. and, in fact, ali, there were actually two reports this summer. one came in from california from july that showed that women who were using marijuana pre-pregnancy and during pregnancy had increased. and then of course a national report from june that showed the numbers that i think you mentioned where it almost
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doubled. and it's very clear and if i may i can read a statement from the american college of obstetrics and gynecologists who are unequivocal. they say obgyns -- pregnancy as well as lactation, pregnant women or women contemplating pregnancy should be encouraged to discontinue use of marijuana for medicinal purposes in favor of an alternative therapy which is better studied. and basically they're saying and this is very clear from acog that there is a risk of small fetuses. there is a risk of still birth. and this risk has been known for some time. the american academy of pediatrics is on board with the same recommendation. the concentration of the thc is the concern here that the fact that it's almost threefold higher from 199 ato 2014, which is the psychoactive component. we know that thc crosses the placenta and can definitely affect the neurodevelopment of the fetus. >> and the neurodevelopment of a
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fetus, it may not be the same issue when it comes to teenager. it's a similar issue that the brain is not fully formed and we don't fully understand the effects on the brain. >> i mean, look, i remember i remember as far back as medical school, brain developments last into your 20s. so for adolescents and yawning du and young adults the thc could affect things responsible for memory and reasoning and things like that so there could be longer-term consequences, of course, of that. and specifically because of the high thc content, apparently, there are more emergency room visits for agitation and psychosis and paranoia, which are more directly related to the psychogenetic effects. >> do we know what leads to the use in pregnant woman? is this the generalized increase use of marijuana or legalized marijuana? >> this is just my opinion. i didn't do a google search
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although i'm sure there's probably some data out there. perhaps it's a perception that it's safer, not totally incorrectly. >> and not that legalization happened? >> one of the main reasons to use it is for nausea or things like that so the perception it's natural or safe, which i think gets into a different conversation as we had long conversations about opioids and subtext of the opioid conversation, which is pain in this country, which is a huge and important issue, that there's been this idea that marijuana is the natural safe thing. and i kind of had -- i sit on both sides of this. i rear from pain patients to medical marijuana -- >> but you understand the distinction between adults and somebody forming a child? >> not only that but it's difficult to talk about the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes. we had approvals for a seizures years ago and there's tons of research that needs to be done,
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continue to be done. but it's different talking about recreational use, which includes thc, medical is usually hopefully or mostly cbd, and in more vulnerable populations like pregnant women and adolescents. different than a conversation with adults. >> right. i think that distinction is important. thank you so much, dr. natalie, our nbc news medical correspondent. hurricane dorian is barreling through the atlantic in florida and bracing for what could hit as a category 4. we'll have a live update after the break. to stay on top of things. a faster laptop could help. plus, tech support to stay worry free. worry free. boom! ha.ha. boom! now get 10 reams of paper only $34.99. $34.99 at office depot officemax or officedepot.com.
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the florida governor just extended the state of emergency to include all 67 counties in that as that state gets ready for hurricane dorian. moments ago we heard from officials in broward county, which contains ft. lauderdale. they're urging residents to be prepared for what could be an extended storm. >> expect a power outage. if you expect a power outage, you need to be prepared for a few things. first of all, as we've been trying to communicate, you need to have food that does not require refrigeration, bread, peanut butter, tuna, canned foods that do not require refrigeration. flashlights and batteries are imperative. please try to buy those at your local store. medication, stores and pharmacies are open now to get your medication. be prepared to have at least two
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weeks of medication. gas for your car, cash as well as water. >> good advice and sadly too many floridians actually know about because they've gone through this so many times. we're keeping an eye on dorian's path as the storm strengthens in the atlantic. back with me now nbc news meteorologist michelle grossman. michelle, the issue is this thing is building on its way to florida. not much to disrupt it. >> anything to disrupt it. it's going to be over the open waters. monday we thought it would go over hiss span olah, break up and maybe poof, go away. but what's interesting we think of florida and hurricanes and think of them getting prepared because they're used to it. but it has not been since 2004 where they saw a major hurricane hit the east coast of florida. this is a big event and it could be historical in many ways. we're going to be talking about this for a while. we are seeing the satellite spin north of puerto rico and north of the virgin islands. it is moving quickly, that's the good news. the bad news it will slow down
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in a bit. it's 85-mile-per-hour winds for the last 24 hours. it's a strong category 1 storm but it's been stable. it will be interesting to see what happens at the 5:00 p.m. advisory. there's 13-mile-per-hour northwest trajectory. as with go throughout time, we will see it blossom as early as tomorrow into saturday. we look at the track, we have a national hurricane track we look at and big track as far as the cone of uncertainty. category 3 by saturday, category 4 by sunday and stays category 4. we were talking that there's not much in its way. it will pass north of bahamas. we could see a hurricane watch tonight or tomorrow. if you're there, prepare for a hurricane. and it moves off the warm waters, here it is over the coast of eastern florida and looking for category 4 storm. there is a couple of things, we have a new moon that rises the waters and rain coming in
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tomorrow. we could see flooding rain friday in addition to what we are going to see. we will watch this the next couple of days. this storm is not done yet. it will go on and on and this is not until monday and will continue into next week. >> it could hit monday morning. we will be in close coverage, michelle. it's one small step from the space force. minutes from now president trump may be closer to launching his long-promised military branch for outer space as he formally marks the return of the u.s. space command after 17 years. per the white house, space command is, quote, the newest of the 11 unified commands in the department of defense, is responsible for deterring conflict, defending u.s. and allied freedom of action in space, delivering combat-relevant space capability to the joint and combined forces and integrating joint forces to advance u.s. and allied interest in, through and from the same domain. the president's full-fledged space force, which would be a branch of the military, would need congressional approval.
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