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>> that is what it sounds like when someone admits under oath that they were lying that does it for the beat. thanks for watching. we'll be back here at 6:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow "hardball" is up next. hostile witness. let's play hardball. good evening i'm chris matthews in washington an explosive exchange on capitol hill just minutes ago president trump's former campaign manager cory lewandowski admitted he was publicly dishonest whether the president asked him to intervene with jeff sessions to kill the investigation into trump's ties to russia and possible obstruction of justice here goes. >> that was you saying on msnbc you don't ever remember the
president ever asking you to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form that wasn't true was it, sir >> i heard that. >> and that was not true, was it >> i have no obligation to the media because they're just as dishonest as anybody else. >> so you're admitting, sir, you were not being truthful in that clip, correct? >> my interview with ari melber can be interpreted anyway way you like >> and it is true in may 2019 you absolutely remembered when the president asked you to deliver a message to the attorney general of a speech for him to give related to the special counsel investigation, isn't that correct >> i'd have to think about it. >> that came, that explosive statement by cory lewandowski came after a day of high political theater on capitol hill after the democrats launched what's being called an
impeachment inquiry. according to the mueller report trump directed lewandowski, that man testifying, to deliver a message to sessions, the attorney general asking sessions to squash the special counsel investigation into trump's dealings or be fired that was the message to the a. g. trump even dictated a public statement he wanted sessions to deliver. but lewandowski did want deliver the message in part because he didn't want a paper trail of his visit to the department of justice. here's what he said when asked why he wanted a secret meeting with sessions to deliver trump's message. >> you didn't want to meet in the department of justice because you knew if you wept into a government building that there's a public log of the visit. so why is that why didn't you want to leave a paper trail of your visit? >> well, jeff and i are friends socially and i wanted to have an opportunity to have a meal with jeff and relay the conversation which the president asked me to ask jeff to consider giving. >> sole you're a private citizen
and you're delivering a message to the attorney general to limit the investigation. so if you didn't think you were doing anything wrong, then why would it matter if there was a public log >> i wanted to have the opportunity to speak with jeff in a more relaxed atmosphere >> at the end of the hearing today chairman jerry nadler would consider holding cory lewandowski in contempt. >> it is a pattern of the white house des pot for the american people not to hear the truth i've been asked several times today whether the committee will hold you in contempt it is certainly under consideration. >> i'm joined now by eli stokels, white house reporter for los angeles times, cynthia a former federal prosecutor, david jolly, a former republican member of congress i think we saw an example of today, this will drive the members of congress crazy but it's true, this council did a
great job. >> he did a great job. i could be a groupie by the end of the day >> admit for camera to the world i don't tell the truth when interviewed on msnbc >> he got him to admit basically he was a liar, that he was proud about it that he was a liar. he got him to admit he had a motive to deliver this message because he was trying to get a job at the white house lewandowski tried to use that shield of whatever the white house said and he pulled out lewandowski's book and read him sections of it so he had to admit that he had the motive to try to do trump's bidding so he could get the job. it was masterful it was done first with a sledgehammer and then a scalpel. >> congressman steve cohen, thank you, because i think americans tend to understand things from movies more than life sometimes and what it reminded me of sending lewandowski to meet with him outside the building it's almost like telling -- we've got
the goods on you, why would the president of the united states use a henchman, lewandowski to go to the attorney general off-campus and tell him to drop the case against him or he was going to get fired himself that seems like mob behavior and a hit man at work. your thoughts. >> well, everybody else in the administration who was a character, mr. mcgahn and even attorney general sessions refused to do what the president asked. sessions refused to recuse himself. mcgahn refused to fire the special counsel but lewandowski was somebody that was the enforcer, admittedhy he was a loyal soldier. >> how could this -- sir, how could this not be obstruction of justice? >> it is obstruction of justice. we saw obstruction of congress which was the third charge in the nixon impeachment today. lewandowski's refusal to
cooperate, stone wall and stammer him and haw and that was obstruction of congress, and then the obstruction of just was obviously when he wept to sessions and message to say just do this for future presidents and not for me that's obstruction of justice. so we showed obstruction of congress and obstruction of justice, and we showed the republicans wanting to do is buttress lewandowski and not try to get to the truth of the matter at all. >> here's how the democrats counsel pressed lewandowski -- >> he made mike wallace -- >> he certainly was a perry mason if nothing else. anyways here's how the democrats counsel pressed lewandowski why he didn't want a paper trail of his meeting with jeff sessions >> having a casual dinner with the attorney general has nothing to do why you wouldn't want a public log of your visit with the attorney general does it >> it does
>> you knew what you were doing was wrong, so just as the president wept to an unofficial nongovernment employee, you wanted to make sure there was not a record of it, isn't that right, sir >> no. >> eli stokels, your view about this in terms of news value and it's the fourth quarter of the investigation of the president with the russian and obstruction of justice >> well, the president was initially cheering lewandowski's opening statement and the way he started off this hearing which was obvious to everybody he went in there looking for a fight, performing for the audience of one we always talk about the president praised him for doing that this is a guy trying to run for senate in new hampshire and who during a recess tweeted out a link to his senate campaign committee telling people to follow him
making a spectacle and a contentious fight, that was all going really well. what happened in the last hour came after three, four hours of testimony and so the question -- you know, i haven't had time to touch base with people inside the white house to report out what the president thinks of the last hour, but i'm going to guess that they are not as pleased with cory lewandowski being exposed obviously as somebody who's willing to lie to the press and being caught in those lies by very skilled questioner i think the saving grace for the white house might be the fact that, you know, all these fights are going to break along partisan lines and they believe maybe after several hours a lot of people weren't tuned in to -- >> that was a great analysis david, i don't think the president has ever been stupid enough, he's not a stupid guy to say i lie. this guy bk and having the time of his life up there,de
like he kicked a touch down or something. and here's the guy caught up in a lie right on television which will never go away he will always be the guy who said i lied for trump. >> chris, an hour after as eli said announcing his new hampshire senate bid, he announces to the world he's a liar he confirmed for the world today, cory lewandowski did that he lie tuesday the american people and he's asking to be part of the united states senate that works in trump's gop but i think new hampshire republicans are smarter than that. what he also provided, though, chris, was confirmation today clearly amidst all the circus that the president of the united states instructed him to commit obstruction of justice and this is one of those hearings where the transcript, the written transcript will be much more damning than some of the things lewandowski actually said lewandowski gave house judiciary committee what they needed today for an article of impeachment against the president of the united states for obstruction of justice. and what he also did and nadler
kept the hearing open subject to call of the chair, lewandowski impugned himself in that written transcript we will see he impugned his word to mueller and the committee, and we saw that through the staff counsel's questioning at the end of the day >> he may have already done it way back when he was interviewed under oath with the mueller investigation, right isn't the record there he wept out and said i did this for the president? >> the obstruction of justice was there in the mueller report buzz larry berke was able to bringit to life and he actuall brought it to life because he brought in the motive of why he would have tried to do this for the president and that was really important the big shame of the day was that berke wasn't the one doing the questioning first. that's what should have happened nadler should know -- this should be his lesson >> we know who the star is tonight. lewandowski cited a letter from
the white house directing him not to answer questions about his conversations with trump and his refusal to cooperate today led to some heated reactions from members of the committee, democrats let's watch them >> did the president tell you that sessions had already said no, volume 2, page 107 >> again, congresswoman, i recognize that the privilege is not mine and i've been asked by the white house -- congresswoman i'd be happy to answer your question or you can have the conversation yourself -- don't ask me a question if you don't want to hear my answer >> this is house judiciary not a house party. >> the white house advise i not discuss the discussions with the president -- >> multiple outlets reported lewandowski intended to use his platform today for a launching pad for a senate bid in new hampshire. that's a state donald trump narrowly lost to hillary clinton
by just 0.3 of 1% in 2016. we heard lewandowski repeatedly echo the president's talking points, he's runnings a trump surrogate or stand in up in new hampshire. attacking the investigation today at every turn. the american people continue to be sold a false narrative with the purpose of undermining the legitimacy of the 2016 election results. i think this fake russia collusion narrative is the greatest crime committed against the american people and our generation if not ever >> do you have a thought as to why we continue to engage in a charade overwhelmingly apoesopp by the american people and fundmently misunderstood by my colleagues >> i think they fundamentally hate this country. what do you think of the republican politics today? it seemed they went in there with that speech ready >> they were, and gates set him
up with that statement but i think it backfired on them i think they looked terrible you had doug collins trying to get support to make him senator, and couple weeks ago we had a guy trying to get appointed to the security position and he failed so we really have republicans auditioning to trump for jobs, they failed. they couldn't support their position, and they've got a situation where obstruction of justice was put in their face and obstruction of congress as well >> lewandowski acknowledged he believed the outreach was from a potential foreign agent to a trump policy advisor but he said it was not up to him to alert the fbi, that he said was the job of papadopoulos' boss sam clovis. >> did you report these incidences to the fbi? >> i did not i did not see that outreach to
me as an offer to interfere with the outcome of the election. >> what did you see it as? >> i saw an outreach from a potential foreign agent to a policy advisor and that's why i asked him to get in touch with mr. clovis >> and just to be on the safe side wouldn't you call the fbi and say hey these guys are calling us, please check it out? >> you know, i think in hindsight it's something mr. clovis probably should have done >> let's talk about the american people who will watch this on innews tonight if they didn't watch it live like we did, what will be their reaction today or will they say this is pretty awful that an intimate was given the job of going for the president of the united states to the attorney general of the united states telling him to call off the dogs, to call off the mueller investigation or be fired. this is mob behavior, and this
guy did it, the guy we're looking at right now are they just tired of this issue to the point they cannot be reawakened to what we're talking about? >> i think they need political leadership to flame the clarity around this. chris, to your point it was a perfectly trumpian moment. here's lewandowski basically testifying as you said mob-like behavior acting like a tough guy until he gets caught and then he's a weak man that has to point the finger showing a complete irreverence for the truth surrounded by republicans. and we be to put this in context, chris, once again every time there's a pivotal hearing like this house republicans who has testified that the president obstructed him to obstruct justice and not a single house republican cares to ask him about that they simply do the president's bidding. to your point, chris, it is up to democratic leadership, unfortunately, to have the frame
the truth for the american people because republicans will not do that. the onus is on democrats to lead the american people in this moment >> we have what's described then by david formerly known as a republican, a description of the modern republican party. the president who's the only person that matters has given him an award of excellence for what he did today. >> right, and that's we has immunity to go and do that they look at this and, you know, there's no consequence these are elected officials and to stay elected in the republican party right now is to stay on this president's good side it's really that simple. these are not tech ceos, auto executives, cigarette manufacturers going before congress with something to lose in the marketplace in the political marketplace the calculation for republicans is stay with the president. it's the reason that cory lewandowski can go in there today and basically, you know, thumb his nose at the entire process.
the only saving grace for democrats in the last hour they were able to really expose some of the holes in his story and put him on the defensive because in the first several hours, you know, i don't think democrats are really getting what they wanted out of that hearing >> it's al caponfamie stuff. coming up right now before the united states senate democratic members have begun a marathon round of speeches. good for them. they're learning how to use television they're trying to light a fire on republicans who so far aren't willing to support any gun safety legislation so why are trump and his conservative allies now talking about gun ownership as a sacred god given right? find that in the scriptures. plus brand new poll results were just released who's up, who's down, you'll be surprised at a couple of things. that woman in the middle, that senator from massachusetts is doing really well.
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left wing democrats want to consfisicate your guns and eliminate your god given right to self-defense. you know that. i will never, ever allow them to take away your sacred right to keep and bear arms >> welcome back to "hardball." that was president trump in new mexico last night promising his supporters there he'd protect what he called -- this is new one -- they're god given right to their guns. he's far from the only republican to use that -- to say now what they're calling god ordained gun right as a way to appeal to avangelicals
sarah huckabee sanders tweeted we have guns because it's our god given right enshrined constitution and texas senator matt shafer he tweeted i'm not going to use the evil acts of a handful of people to diminish the god given rights of my fellow texans, period. in a tweet senator ted cruz of texas described that right as a right to life and a right to liberty and he wrote essential to that right to life is a right to defend your life and your family meanwhile tonight democrats are hoping to take advantage of the public support for gun safety. and right now they're in the middle of a series of late session speeches there's one going on right now senator harona from hawaii on the senate floor right now they're going to go alleen tonight, through the night to compel president trump and mitch mcconnell to do something about gun safety mcconnell said again today he was waiting for the president to indicate what he supports before bringing any measure to the
floor of the senate. i'm joined right now by democratic senator who delivered his senate speech from the senate floor in the next hour. senator, i guess the tough question are the democratic senators united for gun background checks and not going off in the direction of the stuff that beto o'rourke was talking about during the last democratic presidential debate >> yeah, we will get every democratic vote onbackground checks i think we'll get every democratic vote on the bill to pass the house i so appreciated with how you started that with cruz and trump and some of these people i've never heard of in texas and wloep i don't hear of very often again. they're just flailing. i've had a lifetime in the nra i know that position has cost me votes in ohio, but this has turned now being so much in the pocket of the gun lobby and mcconnell
and trump have to break their addiction to gun lobby on campaign contributions but if you're in the pocket of a gun lobby now it's going to hurt you at the ballot box. really since new town i think that's how that changed, that voters that strongly support gun safety, common sense gun reform and there's unity in the caucus, we know 93% of the public supports universal background checks and a pretty high percentage of the public supports closing the loopholes and some other things i i think you're going to see that in the weeks ahead. >> you and your fellow democrats are delivering speeches on the senate floor kirsten gillibrand had some very strong words for the republican presiding over the senate today. in fact just two months ago here she goes senator gillibrand. >> madam president, i'm speaking to you and to every other republican in this chamber
because we all have a responsibility to do the right thing and stand up to the nra and stand up to the greed and corruption that is in this country today that makes every decision about whether we have a vote on common sense gun reforms. i'd like you to look up because i have to say this is something all of us should be caring about. especially from arizona where my dear friend was shot for doing her job. it's not okay. the time for turning a blind eye is over. i yield the floor. >> senator, let's talk about the possibilities here the president looks to me between a rock and a hard place as they used to say. he is afraid of the nra. he's afraid of the hard right. he's afraid of wayne lepierre. the president's waiting on wayne
and he's never going to give him an inch because he's out of a job and out of the mansion and he's finished. how do you get the right to move >> the president is a fearful man. his whole life you can see he's a fearful man and it shows every day in the white house i think you need to separate this, and there's a bunch of republicans elected office i get that but most gun owners, most nra members in ohio support universal background checks. it's only the professional class that make millions of dollars off a year off lobbying, the gun manufacturers who make tens of hundreds of millions of dollars selling assault weapons and these guns and all the ammunition all the things they do that's a small number of people, but it's the people that have president trump and the republican in the senate and especially mitch mcconnell to have a collar around them. but, again, they've got to break
this addiction to gun lobby money. and if they don't, the voters need to punish them. that's the only way to break that addiction >> can you find and develop a cadger of voters who will vote for gun safety with the same focus, the same single-mindedness that the gun people do when they vote to defend their second amendment rights when they see them? >> that's the difference that's why democrats are doing increasingly better in suburbs it's why democrats are doing better in pockets around ohio and especially around the-country. ohio's not quite where the country is on some of these issues, but absolutely as i said earlier my lifetime effort from the florida hurt me and my campaigns for the senate until the last few years where it's clear gnat people on our side of the issue, common sense gun reform supporters, people that care about all the things in our society and the values that make this country great, they are the ones now voting
this and they are now outvoting the relatively small number controlled by the gun lobby. >> senator brown, i think you would have been a great president, i think you might make a great vice president. up next unpacking president trump's bewildering policy positions. and going to war over this craziness, the confusion only compounded by the president's propensity to shift positions on matter of fact i'm trying to be nice here you're watching "hardball. oh! oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (announcer) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7 and maintained it. oh! under 7? (announcer) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study,
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welcome back to "hardball. earlier today iran's supreme court ruled out negotiations with from the united states unless a return to the nuclear deal struck with president obama. >> i can tell you that iran wants to meet. you look at iran and you look at so many of the things that are happening, iran wants to talk. i think iran wants to meet i think iran wants to get this situation straightened out >> well, the public rejection
from iran comes over escalating tensions on an attack on saudi state run oil facilities over this weekend and earlier today two officials familiar with the latest intelligence on that confirmed with nbc news the attack was launched from iranian territory. the trump administration is waging a range of options. president trump and his saudi counter parts would not say unequivocally however iran was responsible. according to "the washington post" president trump's contradictory positions are emblematic of a president pleasing hawkish republicans and his own political instincts against foreign intervention and toward cutting a deal. ultimately and foreign officials the guidon force behind president trump's iranian policy is to, quote, get to best actually the legacy of former president barack obama he wants to once again outdo
president obama. what do you make of -- are we about to go to war, are we definitely not going to war with iran or what >> i think we're probably not unless we see some kind of miscalculation or escalation secretary pompeo is headed to saudi arabia and the uae tonight. he's going to yard on a response i understand the u.s. is kind of looking for like the goldyilocks middle ground response also tell the iranians, lookb, we're not going to put up with this anymore >> why do we attack iran to retaliate -- >> they're basically saying this is an attack on the oil supply,
an attack on the u.s. as much as it allies. >> we're an exporter >> i completely agree. there's no attack on u.s. service men, no americans were killed, there's no u.s. facility but this is as much of an attack trying to kind of split the saudi and the uae. but it also is a message to president trump, you want to hurt our economy, you don't want to lift the sanctions, you want to continue this maximum pressure campaign we're going to make you feel it before an election year. >> if you're sitting in tehran right now trying to figure out our president like we're trying to figure him out, where's he going? he wants a deal. but he wants to go back to where barack obama took us three years ago or whatever year it was on the iranian deal doesn't he want back what we had that he blew away himself? >> i actually think he doesn't know what he wants, he's put himself in a position where he has fewer rather than more
options. usually a national security counsel wants to give a president a range of options >> we don't have that anymore. he's fired all his national security advisers. >> exactly we don't currently have one. there are five finalists i hear and they're allies >> tonight in israel benjamin netanyahu's future in the country of israel remains unclear and murky. exit polls today show the leader has fallen short of securing a parliamentary majority the result showed his challenger of the centrist blue and white party slightly ahead president trump who is popular in israel tried to help his friend the prime minister this weekend tweeting a promise to help after the defense treatyven after this election. so what have we got? >> it's razor thin
the u.s. -- president trump is doing everything he can to get netanyahu to win it's really unclear if president trump's help is going to help at all. >> is it better bibiturns out to be a liar again. he promised to take over the west bank, he knows the message he's sending but he's done this before is he willing to just rip up any chance of peace with the palestinian snz. >> i think possibly. i think this election is really important for the future of middle east peace. >> who has to win to be peaceful >> that's a good question. now of course how they cobble it together is going to have huge implications for whether the peace plan is -- >> does netanyahu go to jail if
he's out of office >> i think if he's out of office he could very well go to jail. as you see in israeli politics, israeli politicians can go to jail and be a prime minister in a few years. i don't really think this middle east peace hinges on netanyahu i think what's going to happen is the u.s. is going to lay out its peace plan, the palestinians are going to say, you know, piss off, and this kind of leads the way for israel, the arabs to get back -- >> when you said what you just said, p off, and they say you're not getting jerusalem, good-bye, you're not getting anything -- >>sent that the whole premise? the middle east peace means israel and iran will live happily ever after and very little to do with -- >> that's a coalition i've never seen before. we'll see.
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welcome back to "hardball. a new nbc news wall street journal poll just out tonight suggests the 2020 democratic presidential contest is increasingly looking like a two-person race. look at this the fist poll since last week's debate shows former vice president joe biden still a leader at 31%, about where he's been following very closely now by elizabeth warren at about 25%. she is gaining and bernie sanders who is not gaining, stuck right there
followed by pete buttigieg also stuck where he's at, and kamala harris who's going down. harris has dropped 8 points from the last poll in july, which was released just after the first debate biden is up 5 points while warren is up 6 warren drew an estimated crowd, by the way, of 20,000 people at a rally last night in new york city down in washington square at the same time president trump rallied his supporters out in a state he hopes to pick up, new hampshire. in their dueling rallies trump had warned laid out competing populist arguments about corruption and government. >> let's start with the obvious. donald trump is corruption in the flesh. >> we're taking power out of washington and giving it back to the great people of our country. >> he's sworn to serve the people of the united states but he only serves himself and his partners in corruption >> every day and you know as
well as i do, we're battling against the corruption establishment of the past and we're achieving historic victories for the american people >> corruption has taken over our government, and we're runling o out of time. we must root it out and return our democracy to the people, and yes, i've got a plan for that. >> well, the warren pitch to voters just one element to her rise leading in the polls. she's working overtime, by the y. wait until you see how she retails one-to-one the voters.
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welcome back and now that new poll, the new nbc wall street journal poll out tonight shows joe biden and elizabeth warren pulling away from the rest of the democratic pack senator warren drew a crowd of 20,000 people in washington square park last night according to her campaign, continuing recent success drawing huge crowds -- look at the noise there in progressive enclaves like seattle and new york downtown but she also continued another trend, the warren selfie line. this is fascinating. nbc news was on hand just before midnight last night as warren pose frd her very last photo of the night with a fan four hours after her anti-corruption speech had ended. four hours of standing there one at a time like santa claus at christmastime, one at a time having selfies with people
and each one of them, of course, kimberley is already nodding i'll get to that in a minute the new poll by the way shows warren with a big lead with democratic voters who say they're enthusiastic about a candidate. 25% about sanders, only 23 about vice president biden for some reason the moderates who behave moderately are still with biden i'm joined by kimberley atkins and jonathan allen, national political reporter for nbc news digital. we always in politics and reporting say there's good wholesalers like reagan who can give a set speech and woo the nation and there are those really good in the room with somebody, they really come across this candidate seems to have it both >> well, that's what she's trying to show i think one of the biggest questions about elizabeth warren is a this idea of electability in terms of broad appeal is she too wonky
is she someone with all these plans but can't connect with people i think that's what the campaign was trying to show last night. they can get tens of thousands of people to come out -- >> look at her she's rallying the noise, getting the noise level like you do in a football game during a huddle >> look at this huge energy she's got. >> part of this is natural enthusiasm, part of this is the organization her campaign has got going on >> biden can only get 3 for his announcement in philly i was there. >> you've got to have people excited and enthusiastic what happens is people post them online, put them on their twitter accounts and facebook and it goes all to their friends. >> kimberley, i know i can make you laugh. okay, put the selfies up against a record player for technology >> right it's a big difference. and instagram beats a record player in this sense easily.
and also you have this crowd every update from the campaign was about the crowd size he responded to that today all of these things are boxes she's trying to check. you can go up against trump, stir enthusiasm, and it's not just about her plans but about the moment >> let's talk about the other three candidates in the top five why does he not change anything about his appeal last week in that debate he was like christopher lloyd in back to the future. he's waving his arms, using the old language, oligarchy, and he's not going to get new people with that kind of talk that's old lefty talk, very old lefty talk >> he's not. and what he's founds out in this campaign there's a lot of people willing to give him a chance last time because there was a lot of anti-hillary sentiment in the democratic party that attracted people to him. this time he's splitting his own
base with a variety of other people and he's stuck in this place where he's 14%, 13%, 15% >> this guy is smart why does he upgrade his campaign to beat -- or is he ready to give up to elizabeth warren? >> i think that's the lesson the campaign went into this thinking they wrote the book when it went to that progressive lane that they knew and corrected things and knew how to run it elizabeth warch came and created parts of the play book and has surpassed him. like you said there's that lane that's nowhere to go and you have that moderate lane where joe biden -- >> i want to talk about age. that candidate elizabeth warren does not look in her 70s she is so animated, so kinetic out there. the two guys have to deal the age issue, not her in other news former white house
press secretary sean spicer made his debut on abc's dancing with the stars just last night. is that him? oh, my god appearing in a neon shirt with thrills spicer danced the salsa to a song by the "spice girls" ultimately receiving the second lowest score of the night. i've got no comment. i'm not going any further with this let's kill that one. you guys no more about than i do john you first and then kimberley. what's going on with beto? he did not get anywhere with that gun thing mandatory buy backs where and nothing happened to him. nothing good happened to julian castro and the former vice president. nothing good is happening to any of the lower candidates. nothing. >> i think most of the democrats have passed on them and decided they're not going to win the nomination and they probably couldn't beat donald trump the big thing for all democratic
voters rightnow is who can bea donald trump >> kimberley, what is the mystery of the failure of kamala harris to get into the lead? everybody like me like everybody thought she was an amazing candidate. >> yeah. it's a lot of people, it's a busy furious news cycle and it's very hard to break out this is different. this isn't just about going to iowa and new hampshire these are national campaigns and it's hard for her to get the bandwidth she had the moment at the first debate, and she was unable to keep it up but all that being said it is still really early most people are not decided. i think you have sort of the head of the class rising with those top five or six candidates i think everybody else is still polling at 1 or 2% >> and there's this piece today about her at howard university and choosing to be a member of the black community, the way she came into it, i think it's fascinating and that's how she
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politicians the most she grew up the daughter of a great libbu great liberal congressional leader from new orleans. she came up in a southern family firmly committed to civil rights she praised women in her writing becoming their champion in the history books she wrote to make up for those earlier books of others that too often overlooked them most of all cokie really believed when teddy roosevelt set about those in the arena, who comes up short again and again but who does actually strive to do the deeds, she knew what political families go through day after day and dread cases like hers when her dad was lost in a plane crash campaigning. she saw her mother take over her
father's congressional seat and carry on the family's liberal tradition. so for her husband steve who will miss her dearly and the people who love not just politics but those who have the guts to practice it here is cokie roberts, a true believer in god and politics and told us what good politics can be. and that's "hardball" for now. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in -- >> no, saudi arabia pays cash. >> the president weighs starting a war on behalf of a saudi prince, bombshell new reporting from politico on big saudi spending at trump resorts. >> they spend $40 million, $50 million. am i supposed to dislike them? i like them very much. >> then -- >> i