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thanks for being with us. follow the show online on twitter and online. here is our chris jansing on "velshi & ruhle." >> thank you so much, it is friday september 20th. my colleague ali velshi is at the climate 2020 forum. we'll hear about him later. we'll be live with protesters around the country and president trump claiming that the whistle blower who filed an intelligence claim is part of a partisan political hack job but refusing to say he talked about biden and his family. this is now under intense scrutiny. the devastating floods in east
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texas. hundreds of people are being rescued. we'll be live in texas with the latest. let's start with that breaking news in this hour. twice this morning for extended periods of time. we heard from the president of the united states, there he was just moments ago. he just wrapped up a news conference with the australian prime minister touching on a wide range of number s of topic. trade war and the new security advisor. one thing he did not mention, he talked about it this morning extensively. that's the reason of the bomb shell whistle blower report. take a listen. >> china started to buy our agriculture product and as you notice the last week of some big purchases. we are looking for the big deal. we discussed afghanistan. austria is helping us and we are reducing in afghanistan as people know. when i came in, our military was
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depleted and frankly we did not have ammunition. our military was in bad shape. we rebuilt the military. >> some big issues the president covered this afternoon just now at that press conference. earlier today the president a added to the intense scrutiny over the phone call of the whistle blower calling it a political hack job and characterizing his calls as foreign leader as always appropriate. if that's the case, why not let congress take a look at the complaint. president trump insists repeatedly he has done nothing wrong. >> i don't know the identity of the whistle blower. i hear it is a partisan person, meaning i am comes -- it comes out from another party. it was a beautiful conversation, keep it that way. i don't want to talk about any conversations other than to say
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great conversation and totally appropriate conversation, could not have been better and keep asking questions and build it up as big as possible so you can have a bigger downfall. >> now the heart of the complaint there, reports that the president made a promise to the foreign leader, something that the inspector general calls a concern. house democrats are not looking into whether trump or rudy giuliani tried to manipulate the ukraine government to help with the reelection campaign. rudy giuliani contradicted himself when he was asked if he personally asked the ukrainians to investigate joe biden. >> did you ask the ukrainians to investigate joe biden? >> no, i asked them to
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investigate in the interference of 2016 by the ukrainians -- >> you never asked anything about joe biden? >> the only thing i asked about joe biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that sanko who was appointed dismissed the case. >> you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden. >> of course, i did. >> you just said you didn't. >> the whistle blower hitting the white house against congressional democrats. the president announced new sanctions on iran's central banks and talks aboed about chi. we'll get through all of this. kelly o'donell and our david jolly, anne gerand is onset with me and ken dilanian. >> kelly, let's start with the big news that happened actually before the press conference.
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it happenes in the oval office, the president being asked about the whistle blower report. kristen welker getting to the heart of this saying did you ever have a conversation with ukrainian president about joe biden? give us the highlights of what the president had to say in the oval today? >> well, it was sort of kristin doing some dentistry and drilling down and she got a lot of new information that helps us understand a little bit more about this. let me begin with where he wanted to begin, calling it a partisan attack and claiming this is fake news, political and harassment and a hack job. that's where the president wants it to be. he acknowledged that he does not know who the whistle blower is. he's making an accusation that this person is partisan without knowing the identity, claims he has not read the complaint and calls it partisan. his conduct on phone calls with
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foreign leaders is appropriate and concekept speaking of a spe conversation and would not say a specific conversation is the one included in the complaints. if he's talking about what we know to be publicly disclosed by the white house as often is the case with many foreign leader calls or read out given to us. a july 25th call with the ukrainian president from last summer. it was perfectly appropriate. he also threw in aside that people should investigate joe biden. the president added fuel to that sort of potential motive. again, we don't know that is what is included in the whistle blower dplacomplaint. the president seems to add a bit of burst of oxygen to that. the president really trying to say this will ultimately fall on its own weight as some sort of fake story and yet the president did not explain to us why the administration is fighting and
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release this information to congressional oversight. and so there are a lot of questions still to be determined. now one of the interesting things about this. our colleague kristin who was the rotating pooler today. each day of the week is a different news organization and she and others in the oval office asking these questions. when we get to the news conference the president can select journalists, it is notable how he went about that. ba that's the nature of the work that he does and he alts caso c a conservative outlet that surely would not be asking about astro a controversy related to the president. that pulls back the vail of how the news conference worked and the president reducing the chance he would be ask again by
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selecting journalists that he can anticipate what you and i may ask. >> yes, a key point of the whistle blower statue is this person could be protected, right? the president said both today that he does not know who the person is but he knows they are partisan hack, right? >> he said heard them. >> from whom? >> who would be revealing that and how do we know they're partisan? >> something the intel community work to avoid. >> right. >> the intel ig here knows the identity. >> yes. >> but the identity would not be contained necessarily in the ig's communications with congress. >> by the way, if it was a partisan hack job, do we think this inspector general woho was appointed by the president, we
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think it rose to the level that congress should take a look. i think this is a big test of the inspector general. >> run it up the chain. send it to congress and say y'all don't need to know about this. that is potential problem. instead what we are seeing is the white house pushing back rather than simply saying this is a matter of under investigation and being appropriate for us to comment. they could say that rather than saying that, you have the president calling it a partisan hack job. >> a former member of congress. i am sure you heard the frustration expressed by some of your former colleagues, right? chairman schiff is warning a possible legal action to be able to review the complaint center and chris murphy telling andrea mitchell today that he met with ukrainian officials a few weeks a ago.
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zelenski concerned of the aides to crukraine. >> understand when chris asked questions about joe biden, he didn't answer. he lied twice saying the union supported the trade deal and when he became president, there were no ammunition for military. what do we know and what do we do about it? a senior intel officer risked their career and reputation and credibility to report out something that the president of the united states said that was so disturbing that it moved them to report to the highest person in the land. we know that the president made a decision to release foreign aide to the ukraine and we know his chief rudy giuliani had been over there to start an investigation into his political opponent, joe biden. he spoke to the ukrainians the
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last month or so. what do you do about it? you open an article of impeachment on monday and you say we are going to vote as a house to begin an impeachment investigation. that would put pressure on this administration. they don't want an impeachment vote. if the house were to open and authorization for in query, you can subpoena the whistle blower and get all the tools you need in the bottom of this, otherwise, it is six months from now and we'll have no idea. >> the other thing, ken, you are somebody that covers the intelligence community obvious ly. is this whole idea that this process is supposed to be very clear and put in place and easily followed now is getting completely muddy in all of this. as you listen to the president today and as you are listening to rudy giuliani last night, i wonder when you put it in the context, the intelligence community and having inspector general who's tasked with doing
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the right thing, give it your big headlines right now. the reason it is muddy because it goes beyond the intelligence committee. it is really a constitutional issue. does the congress have the right to look booiehind the president dealings with foreign leaders. is the president using the power of office for personal gain? this may have to go to an impeachment to get answers. the administration is arguing that and the intelligence committee don't have jurisdiction here because of the subject of the complaint. donald trump is not a member of the intelligence committee. the activity describes do not involve the intelligence of the committee of the united states. i review this complaint and it does implicate intelligence committee equities. that's kind of a narrow issue whether or not adam schiff gets to see it. how can congress investigate whether as the allegations are,
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donald trump got on the phone with ukrainian with the president and suggested that he may get the military aide if he reopens the reinvestigation in joe biden. that's serious business. i am a little surprise that you are not seeing speaker of the house and the senate majority leader come out and demand answers to this. i think the answer may be that people are a little bit unsure about the complaint. they're worried we are over playing it and over blowing it. one intelligence officer was disturbed by what they saw. there is a lot of uncertainty. >> chris. >> i want to point out although the white house has not announced it, diplomats from both countries have said the president and selenski would supposed to meet here in new york. it will be interesting to see if the meeting will take place and what it would be like. >> what happens with all of this. we have 30 seconds left. other news made today, for
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example, in the oval office, the president says we are close to having a deal. he talked about new sanctions on iran. there were other things going on in the world he tweets about this and goes on about it. rudy giuliani goes on tv and then there is other stuff. >> absolutely. the president is pretty good at stuffing his own message frequently and it happens here. although you can tell which part of the above news he was most exercised about. >> anne gearan it is great to have you here onset. ken dilanian and all of you. thank you. hundreds of people have been rescued in texas and around the world a call for action on climate change. we'll hear from protesters here in the u.s. we'll hear from mayor pete buttigieg. our own ali velshi just spoke with him in washington. how he wants to handle the crisis. you are watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. hi &
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." i am here at georgetown university in washington, d.c., co-hosting the 2020 climate forum with my colleague chris hayes, we have been talking with presidential candidates about their plans to come back climate
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change. tom steyer is on the stage with chris. he's one of the leading thinkers on climate in this country. we'll hear from him later on. we'll hear from former massachusetts governor, bill well, he's the only republican president candidate accepted our invitation to accept this climate forum. while we are here at the forum discussing the climate crisis, people arnound the world are taking to the streets fighting for that cause. millions of young protesters worldwide, look at this picture, protesters, cutting class to attend these rallies. the effort was organized by swedish activist who is spear heading the movement demanding quick and bold action on climate change. we got our team all over the country covering the marches. we begin with marianne atencio
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and jo lynn kent. >> mariana, let's start with you. >> reporter: this march was up to 10,000 people at one point. right now it reached its destination. the nation's capitol here, we are waiting to hear from ilhan omar and aoc and pressley. wendy and abby are over here. hey guys. >> reporter: wendy, why is it important for you to bring abby here? >> i have been in despair and worried about the future and my daughter's future. i finally woke up a few months ago and said not doing anything is not enough. i can't let a day go by without
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doing anything. i hope anyone listens to me and says i get that. i need to do something everyday. we can do this people. we can save the world. thank you so much. >> reporter: thank you for being with us abby. a big shout-out. saint francis national school, they want to say hi to you, they skip school to be able to participate and make the change to you. >> ali, back to you. >> look, i am not in favor of encouraging people to skip class but if the cause is important. this is its. good for you to go out there and telling people what really matters. congratulations to you and those like you around the world. mariana, thank you so much. let's go to savannah where demonstrators are marching in new york. what's the situation where you are. >> reporter: this is actually where greta will be today. she's expected to speak in that rally at 3:00 p.m. greta has inspired this entire
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movement called friday for the future. it has been going on for a few months. why would i go to school if i don't know if i am going to have a future. many students have been skipping school throughout the entire year and now here in new york city, that's 1.1 million kids going to school here. that's 1. million school having their absence as excused. this is jennifer who brought her children. >> what does it mean to bring your first and third grader here. >> it is everything, it is inspiring for them. i want them to see the type of power they can create. do you know what your sign says? >> it says if you won't start acting, we will. >> reporter: i don't think you know how powerful it is to hear from you from a mouth of a first grader. what does it mean to be able to give him that and take the message. >> it is everything. it is the most powerful thing i can do as a parent. were your school okay with them
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skipping school. i know absences were excused but how did the school support you? >> the school completely supported us. absences will be excused and the older class rallied together and they made signs. i am here with a group of 30 other parents and kids right now. we are doing this as a group effort. >> reporter: it is getting larger and larger. soon you will be seeing greta in a couple of hours, she's expected to speak here. most people will be at the rally at that point. >> great ta is one of those few people in the world, you said one name and everybody in the world knows who you are talking about. that's symbolic. she's an amazing young person. it is symbolic of how young people around the world have motivated and animated this conversation about climate in a way that old farts like us have not been able to do. we all see the same whield fire
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and cover the same hurricanes and hear about it. it is these young people around the world pulling together to say enough is enough. it is amazing to watch and be apart of. joining me now from los angeles is jo lynn kent. our nbc news correspondent. there is another story going on that has been a big topic of our conversation jo lynn. for 50 years, california has higher fuel efficiency standards for cars. california is so big, it had the results of automakers creating cars of greater fuel efficiency than if california did not have that rule. for some reason, a reason that we are a little puzzled by, the trump administration decided that's not going to be allowed anymore. >> reporter: ali, that's right. we are here in los angeles, just a few hours we are expecting at least a thousand people to be
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protecting on this day. what's happening is the breaking news on this matter. we are talking about that lawsuit, the state of dolezal suing the trump administration alongside 20 some other states aloo along with the city of of los angeles and new york suing the trump administration saying we want to be able to set our emissions standards. this is coming from gavin newsom and the president of the united states, donald trump. what is happening is the back and forth about automakers. four major automakers have signed on voluntarily to make their cars at a higher, stricter emissions standards here in california. they're going to be making cars that are stricter standards across the board here in the u.s. and overseas. trump does knotts linot like th. he tried to put a stop on it with the department of justice but the automakers are telling us they're moving full steam ahead. i asked governor newsom about
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this and this is what he thinks the motivation, take a listen. >> the world is running a fever. the hots are getting hotter and wets are getting wetter. we are the only major gang in town. the united states america about ka about -- he walked away from so many commitments the previous administration makes but none important of the transportation sector and efficiency standards and none more important than this moment. we'll meet this moment and we are meeting head on in california and the environment will win. >> reporter: he was also saying this lawsuit they have filed today is because of the politically motivated and reckless behavior that he sees out of the white house, the state attorney general saying that this lawsuit is in response to the state being attacked in terms of their authority to set stricter emissions standards. this is a major economic story.
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when it comes to car manufacturing, we are talking about jobs and innovation very much on the line here in california and with that, we know that california has aligned with 12 other states in terms of their standards for car emissions. this is going to be a drama that many analysts expect to go all the way in the supreme court. >> it is really a mystery. people in america were not complaining that oh my god i got this car and just highly in efficient. hey mr. car dealer, can you sell me a much more efficient car. the federal government had a minimum standard and the state of california has a higher standard. as a result, we got more fuel emissions cars. the automakers did not have an issue with this that the administration have done this. jo ling kent, in los angeles, be sure to watch a special "all in with chris hayes," i spent my
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second day right here at georgetown university, chris hayes is talking to tom steyer, here are a few moments from the forum so far today. >> i am not going to tell you not to eat bacon. >> i am a vegan and what's the joke about vegan? how do you know somebody is not a vegan? don't worry, he'll tell you. >> you just did. >> for you today ali, and the students, i am wearing a tie. >> there are a lot of things that make you an interesting candidate. anyone can pick one. you are crazy young and you had military experience, you talk many languages, you have worked in many languages and you have worked in america, you are gay. for the purpose of this discussion, there is one --
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>> for a minute, i thought i got it right. >> no, i am gay. >> your family of what you have been doing for generations and what helped raise your kids and the cars to your earth and your labor and your american dream. this country is now going to turn your back. what we need to be doing is show them a future includes them. we have to have robust investment in those communities if we are going to fully transform. when you are thinking about how do i make it to the end of the month. it is hard to worry everyday about well, we are about to get to the point of the end of the world if we don't. >> you talk openly about being a person of faith. i want you to understand how you connect that to this issue of climate change. >> there is a moment here where we should invite those who are motivated by religious moral
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." i am here at the beautiful campus of georgetown university. i spoke to mayor pete buttigieg after his time with me on stage talking about president trump's comment on the intelligence community whistle blower. here is what he tells me. >> extremely disturbing. the fundamental question is what don't they want congress to find out. we are talking about an intelligence oversight committee with the appropriate clearances whose very job is to oversee intelligence issues. they have been presented with an intelligence concern and the white house is covering it up or refusing allow us to see it. it raises so many questions
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about what is happening and what they're trying to hide and why. >> the president talking about new sanctions on iran's national bank. he talked the other day of imposing far more sanctions in iran as things getting hotter of saudi arabia and iran and the united nation and the united states, we are heading into the u.n. general assembly. what's your sense? you are hyper-conscious of getting ourselves inadvertedly into war. what's your sense of how this should go? >> what needs to happen is the escalation, it won't be easy. we created a situation that's more unstable. when the white house pulls out the nuclear ordeal. now the president puts himself in that situation. it appears to be that his instincts is not towards confrontational war. >> it does seem to be that way. >> john bolton seems to go
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towards that and the president repulsed that. >> the real concern is could there be in this step that gets the full thing out of his control. the president seems deeply confused and his strategy. he denied it was ever on the table. he went so far as taxes and changing his mind the last minute. this is the last place in the world where you can go around and not know what you are doing. >> reporter: you know if there is a war that involved iran and the united states, obviously the united states will prevail. we are talking about symmetrical war now. >> what's going to happen is it is going to lead to tremendous destruction on both sides of the gulf. you will see harm to iran and whatever it reaches to the u.s. directly. you are absolutely going to see enormous destruction and causing human life.
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nobody wins in this war. nobody wins. so we got an obligation, perhaps the decisive power operating with respect to that region to make sure it does not happen. >> with respect to war that nobody wins and one may apply that logic to the trade war. their economy is weakening and our economy is weaken. we are all slowing down and there does not seem to be some clear outcome that would be a measurable success. >> well, there is no strategy. i am in my ways hawkish in china than others in my party. they present a major competitive in security and economic perspective. >> reporter: we have the -- >> we need to be partnering with international community to make sure international norms are respected and that's everything of our support of democratic aspirations in hong kong or what's going on with the economic activity and what's happening in their use of
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technology and this is a whole set of concerns that requires a clear eye long-term strategic outlook. we have a pattern of poking in the eyes to see what happens. >> reporter: let's talk about your plan for medicare or for healthcare reform in america. you suggested something called medicare for all. what does it mean? >> it means we create am a medicare-like public alternative. this is what americans are looking for. healthcare lobby came out attacking my plan because they don't want to face that kind of competition. there is an opportunity to deliver that without just saying we can throw a switch and kick on 15 million americans off their health plans which is not doable. >> reporter: you and i just had a hearty conversation on climate.
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is there people around the worldc world coming out in some case to make their leaders understand this is an absolute priority. where are we on this topic? >> where we are is the tide is turning. the question is will it happen fast enough or what do we do to make good on it? the way students around the world are speaking up for their future is inspiring. this is personal. this has moved off the textbook page in our lives. it has gone to an idea to a theory, prediction to a reality and an emergency. the only question is whether we'll continue to failing to act to make this is a dominating problem for the rest of my lifetime. we can and will compete on the technical and dimensions. the real issue is how are we going to get action? it resembles what it was 20 years ago. >> reporter: all right, be sure to check out our "climate forum
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2020." our daily planet and new york magazine. it is streaming right now live on msnbc, just ahead we'll hear from former governor, bill weld of massachusetts. the only republican accepted our invitation to participate in a forum about climate change. students are participating in the biggest organized walk out we have ever seen. millions of kids walking out of their class today to draw attention to the climate change crisis. most people associate this kind of activism with young people on the other end of the age spectrum. climate crisis is turning retirees into activists. my colleague, chris jansing has more. >> reporter: shirley lang, she
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knew it would not produce a kind of miracle. >> you are a skeptic. >> yes, i was. you would think she's a climate denier. >> i thought it was a bunch of larky, yes, that's a good word. >> reporter: train tracks sme e submerged and seeing it change her life. >> a lot of my family thinks i am crazy now but i am making up for loss time. >> reporter: she joineds a grou called 100 nannies. >> we old people are the ones that caused it. we theed need to get in there a help. >> reporter: their model is to educate and agitate. the other grannies are doing one of their many projects. >> we are promoting making your own bags, handing out reusable
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bags made from recycled t-shirts to replace single used plastic bags. all around the country, retirees are leaving behind the quiet life and making noise as activists dug the climate commandos. >> i have 12 grandchildren and i look at that and i think when you are 40 or 50, what kind of a world will you be living in? finally i decided the age of 80, i was going to become an activist. >> reporter: george spector, they spent the week working with local students for today's international climate strike. >> tell us what your strike has already accomplished. >> reporter: students gathered and making signs for that same march. what do you think of the 100 grannies? >> i love them to death. >> reporter: this is marion's mug shot. >> you have been arrested twice? >> i have been arrested four
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times. >> reporter: the first time she was 73. >> you get arrested because you want to raise public awareness. we want to raise awareness of this existential climate crisis. the question is -- is it enough? >> i was not expecting that part where she was arrested four times. >> she's not alone by the way. >> reporter: right. for a lot of young people the argument is not as great with other young people. there is a debate about climate change and some people say it does exist. for older americans to be having that conversation with other people is really impactful. it is one of those things you know there are more people who are deniers and don't accept the science the older we get. it is a meaningful different part of this conversation. >> yes. it is actually kind of pricing how many of them come from conservative bround
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conservati conservative backgrounds. if you decide that you are going to become an activist for the first time at age 70 or 80, why climate change. a lot of them have the same answer. if we don't solve this, all the other problems go away because we don't have a label planet. they're looking at this as something that what do you do when you look at your children or your grandchildren and say, what's the future for them. not what's the future for me? i may not live to see the worse of this. it is actually quite remarkable as we watch these young people marching. these folks had been on the front line, too. >> we want to talk politics here. get ready for a major political battle. congressman joe kennedy is expected to announce he'll challenge ed markee in the democratic primary in 2020. kennedy wrote in a facebook post, "our system has been letting down a lot of people for a long time, we can't fix it if
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we don't challenge it" kennedy represents the latest of the wave of young democratic candidates bucking the wisdom that you wait your turn. candidates like kennedy could become an extension of the progressive movement that reshape the house in 2018. ginning me now the cofounder and executive director of swing left, credited with helping turning the house blue in the house. it is good to see you. >> you have supported candidates who got the nomination. we saw that in 2018. people that did not necessarily come from a political background. there is two ways to loare two this. this is a sign that we have candidates out there available and responsive to their
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community that can help us take back the senate. what do you say? >> what i am so impressed is how sprik th strategic they are. some are signing on for primary campaigns but so many more saying whoever the senate candidate going to be in my state, that's the person that i want to support. how they understand the importance of the senate and you know we can't take back the presidency if that's all we do and we leave a progressive agenda in the hands of mitch mcconnell. >> they say the path to a senate majority could run through straight through the sun belt. and places where democrats have not tried to be competitive in the past. they could be a complicated financial equation always. where do you put your money as a party and where do you put your money as a donor. understanding all that and i know you do. how do you see realistically the chance of taking the senate and what's the path? >> there is a realistic path of taking back the senate at this cycle there was not last cycle. you have to run the scene inside
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street that you did last cycle in terms of taking seats but without defense that you need to do as well. basically you need to win seats in colorado and maine, you need three seats or four if you don't take the presidency. that third or fourth seat is going to have to come from sun belt, arizona, or one of the seats in georgia or north carolina or texas. you can't win back the senate without taking one of the seats. the good news is those states starting to trend in the d democratic direction. people are really rejekicting trump and the gop. and what we are focusing on is making sure people in those states and anywhere in the country have the tools that they need to be able to make a difference in flipping the senate. >> in cases where congress have not been able to get anything done because of the republican senate i am thinking about gun
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control. state legislatures have been stepping in a big way. we have four state legislatures where there are elections this is year. the off, off year. virginia is the one that's competitive and a lot of democrats are looking that as a bell weather for 2020. what do you see and sensing on the ground there. i know something swing left has been involved in. >> incredible energy and virginia and incredible energy around the country to support virginia. you know again i am so impressed of how strategic the current wave is organizing it. they understand how important state legislatures are. state legislatures have the power to not only determine who votes in that state but also how the districts are drawn and they are so incredibly important. they know how close we are to flipping virginia to a blue trifecta. that's why we are driven half a million dollars, the largest
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grass root. it is important how people understand it. >> people can go onto swingle . and take a look. there is also an interesting video. the effective way to increase is voters turn out, people should write letters. >> thank you for coming. >> up next, a live report, you are watching "velshi & ruhle" on msnbc. are watching "velshi & ruhle" on msnbc. it's going ok? great. now i'm spending more time with the kids. i'm introducing them to crab. crab!? they love it. so, you mentioned that that money we set aside. yeah. the kids and i want to build our own crab shack. ♪ ♪ ahhh, you're finally building that outdoor kitchen. yup - with room for the whole gang. ♪ ♪ see how investing with a j.p. morgan advisor can help you. visit your local chase branch.
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welcome back. for the first time, the department of homeland security is placing a a major priority on domestic terrorism, especially from the extreme right. according to the acting dhs secretary, recent tragedies have, quote, galvanized the department of homeland security to expand its counterterrorism mission focus beyond terrorist operating abroad to include those radicalized to violence within our borders. joining us now is justice correspondent pete williams. how new is this? how new is this kind of approach and what will they be doing? >> in a sense, brand new. the focus on home grown extremism is existed for several years. extremists radicalized by terrorist groups overseas, radical islam. now the department of homeland security acting director is saying we have to focus as well on the threat of white us is premise schism and racism and
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anti-semitism. this is hit dhs hard. shooting at the walmart in texas, he said six of the people who were killed in that attack were family members of dhs employees. he said the majority of dhs employees in the el paso area do come from hispanic families. so he said this is something that dhs has to focus on a lot more to realize that this is part of the threat picture. this is going to require, he says, more money from congress to try to counter. how? but better understanding the problem. the secret service does some analysis. more needs to be done this more training for local law enforcement and active shooter training to respond when these things happen. more prevention programs, more outreach to internet companies, tech companies who provide a forum for these kinds of ideas to grow. you may recall that after some of these recent shootings, at least one of these radical websites said it would no longer host one of these groups. he wants to see a lot more of
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that. and trying to put out a countermessage as well. this is a tricky thing for the government to do, but to try to make sure the only thing people find online is not this sort of white supremacist thing in the places they go looking for this message. >> wooet williams, thank you for that. up next, the latest from east texas. hundreds of people rescued already as the historic floods are devastating entire towns. you're watching live on msnbc. ♪
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welcome back. the worst rauns from tropical storm imelda may be over, but rescuers are scrambling to reach people trapped by dangerous flood waters. two people are dead and hundreds more stranded after the the storm dumped 40 inches or more of rain in some areas. as remnants of the storm move inland, 7 million people remain under a flash flood watch. that's it for me. we'll be back at 3:00 p.m. eastern. right now, yasmin is picking up our coverage. >> it's one of those days. if you follow me on twitter. you have a show meeting in the morning and the rundown and then
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it's just one of those days. and it always happens on fridays. >> just when we have our energy level. good afternoon, everyone it's 11:00 a.m. out west. 2:00 p.m. at the white house. today for the first time on camera, president trump directly addressed a potentially damaging complaint from a whistleblower in the intelligence community. his response, it's nothing but a, quote, political hack job. watch this. >> it's a partisan whistleblower. they shouldn't even have information. i have had conversations with many leaders that are always appropriate. anything i do, i fight for this country. i fight so strongly for this country. it's just another political hack job. >> an that point, did you discuss joe biden? >> it doesn't matter what i discussed. somebody ought to look into


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