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leading this investigation, adam schiff, and the number two republican in the house, steve scalise. "the beat" with ari melber, and ari, it's been 12 minutes and the president has contrad t contradicted himself. >> you're four years on the air and you mentioned your beard changes. with regard to your four years, sir, we're hoping you'll be like fdr and go four, eight and beyond. >> as they say in cable television, one year at a time. as for the beard, you brought it up. we love the full beard. you're fully bearded now. >> you're the inspiration, my friend. nobody does it better than you do. you grow a beard in half an hour. >> i'm like homer simpson. if i shave it, it comes back the same day and we just keep on keeping on. we have, as chuck mentioned, so much tonight. we begin with breaking news. democrats now late friday
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subpoenaing one of donald trump's closest aides in the impeachment probe. late today house democrats subpoenaing secretary of state mike pompeo for evidence on donald trump's call with the ukranian president which has now turned into a full-blown collusion scandal. we were just talking about rudy giuliani. they want information about his interaction with ukranians. he's been passing the buck to the state department. weeks ago pompeo had been declining to turn anything over. now there is the weight of what has changed this week, the full-blown impeachment inquiry backed by the members of the united states house of representatives. we get to show you what we're learning here because this is brand new. they're saying that subpoena is pursuant to that impeachment inquiry and failure to comply will constitute evidence of obstruction of the house's impeachment inquiry. that is some of the toughest language you can get. it says you're part of that constitutional crime. and breaking just now, i was just discussing with my
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colleague chuck todd, rudy giuliani is saying to sky news he wants to testify to congress. >> are you willing to testify in front of congress? >> well, there's a lot of problems with that. would i like to testify and tell my story? sure. i've been telling it all the time. in fact, you know my story. there are things that i can't testify to because i'm a lawyer. >> what has the president said to you this week? >> he asked me how i'm doing. we talked about golf. and anything we talked about relating to the kacas case i ca tell you. >> that would be the news except for what was just referenced literally within the last couple moments. giuliani is now telling us here at nbc he wants to make it clear he has not decided if he'll testify. i want to get right to a lot of this new reporting and then we have a breakdown a little later. emily toliver is here, and kenzi
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sha s shatino. i'm going to put rudy giuliani aside, though we're happy to share his statements, as contradictory as they may be. what is your opinion of the house sending formal subpoenas to secretary of state pompeo? >> i think the house is wondering who is going to be the takashi 6-9 of the trump administration. >> in the sense of going into hiding? >> various characters, naming names, snitching, selling, selling, selling. who is going to be disloyal to the trump organization? >> let me do one thing before you continue. we're inclusive here. i want to include every viewer to understand you're referring to a musical artist who has gotten some fame in the last few weeks for going full michael
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cohen and flipping on everyone. so you're saying the pressures we're seeing could lead, you think, to people turning. >> i think part of the house strategy is to put pressure on all different avenues. so it's to actually do an inquiry and see what kind of new information they can find out and to kind of force their hand. i think that's important in the letter that went out that said, if you do not do this, we'll look at obstruction on multiple fronts. but it's also to see who is essentially going to flip and pit these people against each other. we're already seeing kind of a crackdown in donald trump. that's not surprising. he always gets pretty intense in moments like this. we've seen that before. but now we're seeing a crackdown in rudy giuliani, and now we're seeing the house put pressure on all different avenues, including pompeo. we need to get people to sort of spill their guts and what kind of information you can come up with during the course of this
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inquiry. many they're demanding any records generated or received by the state department with donald trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani. do you think its blaming the state department. is it already backfiring? >> absolutely, it's backfire. now i think he's up gerns a question of whachls revealed. they want to know the what, the rlt the american public will get a very clear picture of who did what in this nangs and talking
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to on fox news just last night. >> i think they should all congratulate me, because if it weren't for me, nobody would have uncovered and faced massive corruption by the vice president of the united states. in fact, i'm a legitimate whistleblower. >> juanita? >> he is not a legitimate whistleblower. can we start there? i mean, this is someone who is doing the bidding of the president as his personal attorney, being involved in state department interactions, hiding documents within the administration. like this is somebody who is not a whistleblower. he should never be referring to himself as such. >> kenji, i want to turn to you for the reason we booked you, which was not just rudy giuliani's latest and greatest but the deeper constitutional dimensions here. a lot of folks would look at donald trump's conduct and a lot of members of congress and would have said he was impeachable before monday. and yet this scandal has taken a light in this building, in this
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congress andment then we have the senators speaking out on the idea that this gets out of control. people have spoken out opposing donald trump. take a listen to senator jeff flake. >> somebody mentioned yesterday that if there were a private vote that there would be 30 republican votes. that's not true. there would be at least 35. or maybe more. a private vote, but that's not possible. many of them are up for reelection in tough seats, and i know that feeling. >> when you look at this, do you see constitutionally a big shift this week based on the information that's come out, or do you, like senator flake, see this as largely still moving
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within the political winds? >> i think it's a seismic shift, and i think it goes back to the very idea of high crimes and misdemeanors articulate by the founders in the federalist papers of the federalist papers in '65 where he was talking about impeachment was such an iss issue. he said impeachment comes into play when we're talking about violations of public trust. he says, imagine two scenarios. one is where a president for personal reasons puts out a hit job on somebody. the other is where the president says, i'm going to use my public office in order to destroy a political opponent. he said the second case is actually an easier case for impeachme impeachment. the first case just has to do with private animosity. the reason we have impeachment is for abuse of office. we've had 19 impeachments, eight
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convictions. not just the johnsons and the clintons of the world but all federal judges, because a majority of them are federal judges of these 19. you see one is this violation of public trust idea. i think if we broaden the picture away from the presidency and look more broadly at impeachment, i think what we see as a through line is the public trust notion. i think the public understands this is somewhat different and kind of paying offed something more normal. >> we've had you on before told execute us. what grade would you give the on it face is the president's own evidence. >> i don't like to give out grades, especially for a work in
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progress. >> you are a professor. >> i will say that mueller himself said the proper vehicle -- he was basically saying we can't indict a sitting president and remitted it to the impeachment process. >> everyone hang with me. later i'm going to ask you to give a grade to kenji. i'm thinking f. >> we're all friends here. >> everyone stay as promised. we want to get to some breaking news, turn to a little bit of a breakdown and get your responses on the flip of it. the pompeo subpoena many if i want to tell everyone if you're tune tg at the end of a long hearing. they are going to limit the need
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for speed and have very few hearings, if any. they said intel is still on the job working through the break. >> we've already begun reaching out to witnesses. we're going to be noticing depositions or interviews as soon as next week. we expect subpoenas to go out -- more subpoenas to go out first thing next week as well, so we're moving with all speed. >> the subpoenas are putting new heat on the white house to answer these remaining questions, like the news that white house officials knew about this whistleblower's complaint very soon after trump's call and kept hiding it. or if they stone drs wall further strengthen their fast timeline because it shows the public shlgt shls. he won't even show up to defend
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himself in this crisis, putting more pressure on people like attorney general bill barr. >> let me ask you about the attorney general. >> he's gone rogue. i think where they're going is a cover-up of the cover-up, and that's really very sad for them. how did the justice department go so rogue? well, they have been for a while. >> look that the from the "new york times" just moments ago. they had a meeting with donald trump in order to provide financial sforpt a -- support. is this the right time to take two weeks for most of congress off? >> well, i don't think they have a choice in terms of can they take this off or not. they have to be working, in part because of protests from outside
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of congress. the democratic base wants something. they have wanted something for a while. itsd right here on the show a while back that democrats had to either put up or shut up because the base wants something. what we're seeing here is pressure from outside and now kind of the resulting hearings which is going to be a really important part of showing the world what is going on, either through the stonewalling from the administration or from the reveal of these various documents that will come out. but absolutely, you are going to have to have democrats working on the inside even at the moment -- even if it seems like it is a moment of break. >> juanita, i ask you, and we've had these discussions here on this show. we've had debates among our panelists on whether the democrats, particularly the leadership after mueller, stopped short and didn't find the momentum, didn't deal with the threat that many people say donald trump poses. he certainly took his own
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reaction from that, because after watching the democrats from mueller, he took that information. if you took the democrats at their word or you have concerns, i find myself wondering when we'll find him taking an offramp. >> they will continue to garner support for their movements. because now that the democrats are unified in this action, remember, there was not unification over mueller. now that the democratic party is unified, i have confidence they'll move full speed ahead. we see that with the subpoena going out today, we see that in
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pelosi's language about barr, really calling him out for what he's doing, especially since he took the role as president's neernl role, working with recall to retain everything with voters. >> from a constitutional perspective, do the democrats or does the house need more information or evidence, or can it, consistent with its constitutional duties, move forward on impeachment now? >> you're going to accuse me of squidg ing out from this answer. >> you're literally shifting around in your chair. >> i can talk to you lawyer to lawyer about impeachments, but we're used to courts and we're used to court procedures and everything that hedges that
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process is really well known to us. when we headed to impeachments, they shifted over to the congress, or the house that's taking the prosecutorial function and the senate that's taking the trial function. the rules is very, very different. hamilton saying, we don't want to put the many. . if you answer that in the way that there are no other triggers needed. >> but in a judicial process in a court, there is a rule of evidence i can apply and a standard i can apply to ascertain what a judge would likely do. because we're not in court, we don't have precedence, we don't have those rules of evidence, we don't have those burdens of proof laid out in the same kind of way, it's much harder to say what would be sufficient. i can opine what my personal
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opinion would be, but i don't think that's as relevant as thinking about what this congress is going to do. >> kenji yoshino, ever careful. appreciate you, sir. when we come back, donald trump a lawye trump's lawyers trying to use a nixon defense on this story. pulitzer prize winner eugene robinson is here and they are asking the speaker not to send the president to prison. at national,t toan lose the wa prison.eep it off. looking good, patrick.
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the white house is in full juggling mode with heated pressure from its own allies, not only the donald trump ukraine scandal, but top officials trying to lock down his teleconference in an electronic system and increasingly shows him
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unmanageable. people at the center of this scandal are already starting to publicly break, including rudy giuliani and secretary of state pompeo. and they're splitting before either his face any serious investigative interviews with congress let alone from the fbi. >> pompeo is unhappy with you. is that true? i know both of you. i haven't heard about this except from maggie haberman. >> i actually think they should all congratulate me. if it weren't for me, nobody would have uncovered and faced massive corruption by the vice president of the united states. in fact, i'm a legitimate whistleblower. and his state department, you know, asked me to do this, so mike, if you're unhappy with me, i'm sorry but i accomplish my
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mission. i have no idea if he's unhappy with me or not. i frankly don't care. >> not exactly what you say about a teammate when you're on message. giuliani also worked with trump's legal team in that mueller probe, and one of his most prominent teammates was jay sekulow who argued the president's decision on what's appropriate to get from other countries, including maybe election help? well, that would be the final word which is drawing echos of an infamous nixon gaffe. >> was it appropriate? >> look, the president determines what communications he wants to have and what he believes is appropriate in his communications with another head of state. >> when the president does it, that means it is not illegal. >> by definition. >> exactly. >> no. now, i should say there are, of course, legitimate actions of the commander in chief's core powers to make foreign policy. he has a lot of power in this area. but that doesn't mean a
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president is incapable of acting inappropriately or illegally in office, and think about it, if that were true, there wouldn't be an impeachment provision in the first place. now, all the signs suggest that trump's legal team is still trying to figure out their defense on the fly without knowing how broad the ukraine plot goes. the white house is also debating how to build a team to em battle impeachment. that's interesting because that would suggest they now think impeachment is a real possibility, and a team to prevent it, that suggests donald trump was lying when he repeatedly claimed he welcomed impeachment as a kind of political boost. if that were true, he wouldn't need to fight or build a team. he could just wait and say, gosh, i hope they finish this up soon. what would change? eugene robinson is here to tackle that and a whole lot more when we are back in just 30 seconds. in just 30 seconds.
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eugene robinson is here as promised. good evening, sir. what a week. >> an incredible week. just tell me it's over, because i keep looking at the phone and crazy stories keep coming up, and there's rudy, and then he takes it back, and trump is meeting with wayne lapierre. it just seems to keep going on. >> yeah. i'm curious with all these reports what you think of the way that impeachment has taken hold this week, unlike any other week i've seen, and you're our
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eagle-eyed observer of washington. i wonder what you think. and that's not just in the house that we've seen it, it's not just senators obviously putting up different types of pressure, at least with the co-equal branch saying you got to get us the whistleblower complaint, and then the "new york times" coming out for only the second time in the history of the united states to back the impeachment of a sitting president. altogether what do you see as shifting here? >> what shifted is that we all became aware of a case of wrongdoing that is, to my mind, at least, just tailor made for the idea of impeachment. because you have this massive breach of the public trust. you have this massive abuse of power. you have a president who withholds $400 million in military aid to ukraine so he can use that as leverage to get the president of ukraine to order the prosecutors to dig up
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some dirt on president trump's phone call with ukraine. it's so clear and it so goes to the heart of the very idea of public service and public responsibility, and thus, abuse of the public trust that i think that's why. i think that's why it seemed to go almost overnight. people look at it and say, oh, you know, we have no choice. so you have all those democrats who had been really reluctant to go there. nearly half the caucus had been reluctant to go there at all, and then almost literally overnight, just taking a look at the situation, they said, this has to happen. and the most important one, of course, who did that was nancy pelosi. and those who, you know, who don't think she's serious about
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it or think she's still reluctant about it, she was on "morning joe" this morning, i was on the set there, too, and i can just tell you when she gets -- when she points in a direction and says, this is where we're going, you really can take to the bank that that's where the house is headed. so she's going to follow through on this impeachment inquiry, and we'll see where it leads, but i think i have a pretty good idea of where it's going to lead. >> that's fascinating given your proximity to it. you and i both as reporters, you always check what everyone is saying. and sometimes the argument on the other side is weak, sometimes once you hear it, it makes you rethink. that's why we talk to so many sources. last night we heard directly from a trump campaign official on "2020 to hear what he had to say.
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they're still struggling on which things they're denying and which things they're admitting in an area of congress that they think is impeachable. >> the ukraine call notes, even before you get to the whistleblower, have the president saying, do me a favor, go after a domestic rival joe biden. >> that is not what the transcript says, and you know better than that, ari. he's saying look into matters of corruption. >> quote, the president wanted allegations of corruption potentially involving an american official to be investigated by ukraine. >> it talked about looking into ukranian meddling in the 2016 election, and it also talked about investigating the former vice president of the united states -- >> right, investigating joe biden as a rival. >> ari, i watched that last night, too, and was equally
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confused and at times amused by the fact that he couldn't decide what to acknowledge was true, where to stand, basically. to say, oh, it's okay, the president can do anything he wants, or actually, the president didn't do it because there was no quid pro quo. actually, the president did something else. you've got all these messengers out there trying parrot talking points that are totally inconsistent and don't make sense, and then somewhere in outer space, you've got rudy giuliani out there giving every possible crazy answer to every possible question. and what you have is kind of a messaging nightmare right now. then you have a lot of republicans, especially republican senators, who are just sort of pulling the covers over their heads and hoping nobody notices they're still
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around. >> i've never thought of rudy quite as an astronaut in outer space, but with him it comes down to one small gaffe for rudy is one large gaffe for the white house's ukranian scandal. we'll reflect on all of it. the work, i assure you, gene, is actually over. we'd love to call on you next week and the week after that, sir. >> i'll be around. >> have a great weekend. we'll take a break, folks, and when we come back, a top democrat says trump is acting like a mob boss throwing down the leader. what do you do if you get that kind of order? plus a trump insider who has seen all of this up close and has become quite a critic. newt gingrich's fast track of impeachment in the '90s. '90s why don't we just ask geico for help with renters insurance? i didn't know geico helps with renters insurance.
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that was one of the memorable lines this week. people familiar with donald trump saying he sounded like a mobster in the now infamous call with ukraine's president, with the threats and the hint to go get where he wanted to go. trump saying the u.s. does a lot for ukraine, so now it's time to do us a favor, and it's, quote, very important you do it and then get into the point on the talk, he said, about biden's son. adam schiff said it was more like a mob boss than a president. >> what those notes reflect is a classic mafia-like shakedown of a foreign leader. like any mafia boss, the president didn't need to say, that's a nice country you have, it would be a shame if something happened to it, because that was clear from the conversation. >> he is quoting, of course, "the untouchables." >> nice to have a family. >> yes, it is.
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>> a man should take care to see that nothing happens to them. >> it's not just democratic critics. you are looking at the cover of the great journalistic institution the new yorker where you see trump and giuliani literally pushing uncle sam off a bridge with his feet in cement. i'm with author of "all alone on the 68th floor" and robert dietz, former counselor to the cia and former general counsel at the nsa. nice to have both your perspectives. robert, what happens, in the event weav've seen these call notes, people inside the u.s. government are asked to go along with what they view as unlawful
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orders? >> i think traditionally in this kind of investigation, you start with the people lower down for lots of different reasons. these are people in their 30s, 40s who say, wait a minute, i've got a career in front of me, or at least i hope i have a career in front of me. i'm not going to take a call for a president or for a senior white house adviser. so i think that's part of the way you break apart what looks to be a unified group of people. >> what are they supposed to do? you worked at some of the inside levels that some of us never get to and you do things that are questionable. the intelligence agencies, the cia, you do tough stuff and i'm sure people think, god, did we cross the line? what happens if it's not tough and on the line but so over the line that somebody says, i don't know that we should carry this out. i don't know that we should work with a foreign government to sabotage a domestic candidate.
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>> there are a couple ways of addressing it. certainly one of the classic ways is simply saying, with all respect, i resign. that's something i cannot do. another way, and this is quite common in washington, as you all know very well, is to do confidential calls to the press. and that's what we're seeing. we're seeing increasingly the information leaking out of the white house, and i think that's designed in part to refer people to make sure they are okay with the law. >> yeah. and barbara, to robert's point, those are individuals who do all kinds of stuff and do want to have careers. and then this president, more so than others, according to what we're learning, pushes it even further. when you worked around him, what do you recognize here in that call? >> it's very trump. he's setting up his plausible
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deniability. i just suggested things were going on and they might want to look into it. >> if he said i want gold do doorknobs versus something i might get in trouble for, does he lean into that mafia style when he knows it's bad stuff? >> only when he knows. it's questionable. not necessarily bad but he might be doing something with an individual that he doesn't want to be associated with someone else. >> take a listen to michael cohen making a similar point. >> mr. trump did not directly tell me to lie to congress. that's not how he operates. that's how he speaks. he doesn't give you questions, he doesn't give you orders. he speaks in a code. >> that's a code. everyone knows, at least those of us who are closest to donald, knew exactly what he wanted.
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this would be good, or it should be this way, do it, do it. maybe with some very close people who would take a fall for him, but i saw him do it with a lot of people maat my level. >> robert, when you look at someone who is publicly known, would you expect anyone carrying this out in the agencies to be careful they might have their own legal exposure, or we're not there yet? >> oh, absolutely. i think many of these people probably do realize they are facing some kind of exposure. you can certainly use hidden language like, do me a favor and so forth, but play before a jury, even, let alone people in the house of representatives. people are going to understand what was intended and what was meant because of what followed on from that with mr. giuliani's visit. >> we have a lot of protection, say, from the cia following orders, if they brought a lot of
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stuff back helping trump in 2020, they could be in trouble? >> oh, certainly. when people are concerned, they come to the general counsel. i counseled people from time to time when they worried things were on the edge. they ought to be concerned. they've got mortgages to pay. >> robert dietz and barbara res, thank you both. somewhat chilling but i appreciate it. there is something happening in the house in washington while the chief is saying it is urgent. i'm going to tell you what you need to know. i'm going to tell you what you need to know the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. and i don't wait when i return, thanks to drop & go. at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off. looking good, patrick.
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trump's own intelligence appointees said they are making the scandal an issue, putting them over the edge. nancy pelosi announcing that said they would move quickly but not hastily. >> i think we should move on this purposefully and expeditiously, but not hastily. it doesn't have to drag on. i'm not saying such and such a date. but looking at the material the administration is giving us, they are actually speeding up the process. >> speeding up, but speaker pelosi sending her whole caucus
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on recess today for two whole weeks. democrats insist she has a full strategy. it is worth noting last time the house did move on in impeachment, the speaker at the time was pushing votes during a lame duck session. that was days before christmas, typically a vacation time, and that was while the senate was still out of its session. we're speaking, of course, about someone who moves fast. speaker newt gingrich said he wanted a vote and he wanted it fast, something he had always emphasized. >> how can we move as expeditiously as possible within a framework that recognizes that this is uncharted territory. >> take that back today. there are liberal groups who say they want to be more expeditious than this, progressives calling on the leadership to completely cancel this recess and stay on the jobs. there is precedence on that on lesser issues than impeachment by pelosi herself. she called representatives back
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from a break to talk about the jobs bill. she called them back to deal with the shutdown that was ongoing. her team says there's nothing to worry about. they said her intel committee will be working during recess, and he explained that on "the bea beat" last night. >> the intel committee will proceed with hearings and matters during that recess. >> so you don't think you'll lose momentum here? >> the intel committee is going full steam ahead. >> full steam ahead. what does full steam ahead mean in the context of a white house that is pushing back on so much, that hasn't been very cooperative about anything? and what does full steam ahead mean about timing for any articles of impeachment, which is the big enchilada. lawmakers see impeachment hitting the house floor as soon
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as around thanksgiving. that would be fast indeed. so we've been following all this. this is what i'll tell you. if in the end the articles of impeachment hit the house floor before or after thanksgiving or really any time before the end of the year, no one will remember this two-week recess. but if things change, and this week has shown how fast they can change, if speaker pelosi is further into 2020, people will be looking back to this friday night, back to this recess and asking, was that the time when the white house was on the run constitutionally and the momentum got lost? coming up, i'm going to fit in a break and show you how this ukraine scandal has donald trump's favorite tv network out of sorts. t of sorts
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♪ make you're jaw drop make u say oh my god ♪ this is the week things change. the house speaker embracing an impeachment probe. join frd the first time by the majority of the whole house. the whistle-blower system worked, that's how we know all this stuff, defeating donald trump's attempts to squash it. and in a world with people hear different realities depending on their sources president trump's favorite channel has found itself struggling to decide on one story. now chris wallace calling out trump's, quote, misleading spin while others defend trump seemingly no matter what. >> the real story, the real corruption, none of it, zero has to do with president trump except that the president is
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once again a victim of baseless lies, smears, hypocrisies, conspiracy theories. >> the spinning that's been done by the president's defenders over the last 24 hours since this very damaging whistle-blower complaint came out, the spinning is not surprising, but it is astonishing and i think deeply misleading. >> that is the side by side of what's going on over there. we thought it was interesting to see. and today is also friday. we're doing our fall back a little bit differently. i just taped a new fall back discussion with waka flocka flame, and senator rus fengold. >> i'd like not to have to read
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anymore stories like the fall back of how millions of birds are going extinct. we lost 30% of the world's birds since 1970. >> we also discussed some questionable fashion because crock shoes are popular because they get a little controversial. waka flocka flame telling some crock haters to fall back. >> he took them to another level. look at them. they're fashionable, they're beautiful and their genius. >> so you support it in. >> definitely. i support anything he do. >> you're telling the kanye crock haters to fall back. >> you've got to. >> is there any fashion that he could do that you would say, okay, that's too far and he's had other footwear issues.
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>> yeah, but he's got the most comfortable shoes in the world right now. >> let's talk -- i'm not going to make you talk kanye's politics which go a little more red than your blue politics, but how do you feel about kanye's fashion because he's branched out. the crocks there i think i'm going to say it and i like a lot of what kanye does, i think the crocks are right on that line and i like comfort. >> we do love bringing people together. they really hit it off. they were talking about protecting the environment before the interview, which also came up briefly. >> thank you for letting me get to meet this guy. he's talking about educating kids, he's agreed to endorse our campaign for nature and he says he might do some music for it.
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>> you can always go from hard in the participate to hard in the green. >> speaking of music tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern msnbc's live coverage kicking off of the global citizen festival. that is big deal around here as you know, and actually i can personally tell you it is looking great. i know that because this afternoon i got to step by central park, this is during the rehearsals and i caught up with single adam lambert. he's performing at this concert tomorrow. i got to ask him for a fall back, too. it is fall back friday. what needs to fall back? >> i think people polluting the ocean with plastic. it's a serious issue. fish and wildlife in the ocean are literally gagging on pieces of small plastic and it's killing them. they're cutting up fish with plastic in their stomachs and it's terrible. so whatever we can do to help reduce that, that's what we're trying to get local governments and international governments to back. the fact they're taking plastic
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straws away and we're trying to replace them with paper straws, that's a great first step. there's a lot of other examples of things we could be doing as a culture, but it's good to see that there's something happening. >> amen to that, and i can tell you it is really exciting over there. you don't have to be in central park or new york because we're going to broadcast it as i told you. and adam lambert, we talked about some other stuff. and he was talking about the super power of being yourself, of being authentic, it's the kind of stuff with all the stuff going on in washington and politics, we could always take a moment to take in. now, do you want to see the rest of that interview? obviously i'm going to tell you where to get it. it's part of our kick off 4:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow of our global citizen coverage. also joined by joy reid, stephanie ruhle, and a bunch of other artists and activists. that does it for the beat on a pretty long week, but i will see you back here if you join me
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monday 6:00 p.m. eastern. as always, thank you for watching. "hardball" with chris matthews is up next. weeks, not months. let's play hardball. good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. today marks the end of the most consequential week of donald trump's presidency, a presidency that now faces the dire threat of impeachment. that impeachment drive is fueled by one central realization, that the president has proven his readiness to deal away the national interest in favor of his own. by freezing military support to ukraine while soliciting dirt on a political opponent trump used the power of his office to extort a u.s. ally. quote, i would like you to do


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