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jackson. we'll see you in just a bit from the white house. craig melvin here. msnbc headquarters in new york city. just a few moments ago, president trump was in battle mode as he left washington, bound for the nato summit in london as he heads overseas. impeachment clearly on his mind. he took the chance to lash out at democrats over how they're handling the impeachment process. >> the radical left democrats the do-nothing democrats, decided when i'm going to nato, this was set up a year ago, that when i'm going to nato, that was the exact time. this is one of the most important journeys that we make as president. and for them to be doing this and saying this and putting an impeachment on the table, which is a hoax, to start off with, but it will never end, because they want to do what they want to do. >> also at this hour, a battle between the top two 2020 democrats. any minute now, joe biden and pete buttigieg are taking their
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campaigns into each other's strongho strongholds. we're live in iowa, we are also live in south carolina, as well. this is the scene in iowa right now. both of those candidates making their pitch. and as we speak right now, the supreme court is hearing arguments on its biggest case on guns in ten years. it's a decision that could have a huge impact on local gun laws going forward. i'm going to talk to a woman who works every day to advocate for new gun laws to reduce gun violence. she spoke on the steps of the high court there just a few minutes ago. we'll talk to her in just a second. but we start with the impeachment process. one round of public hearings is over. another recount set to begin. so how is washington getting ready for round two? msnbc's garrett haake is on the hill. he starts us off. so, garrett, democrats, they're game planning what wednesday's hearings will look like. what do we know about how that game planning is going so far? >> well, there's even a step before that, craig. and some of will affect wednesday. democrats are still putting the
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finishing touches on that report from the intel committee, which they hope to let members start reviewing tonight, ahead of a vote tomorrow, leading then into that wednesday's hearing. wednesday's hearing is something that is a bit agnostic on the subject of what is actually in that report. we know it will focus more of a 30,000 foot view on impeachment, on what constitutes a high crime or misdemeanor and on whether or not the president's conduct, as established by that intel report fits the bill. so we're waiting to hear still who the witnesses will be on wednesday. we know that these will be constitutional scholars, experts in that process. so the fireworks in that hearing, if there will be any, won't be coming from the witnesses, who will be a little bit more staid than we've seen thus far, but from the members itself. the judiciary committee is a lot more partisan committee, they're a lot more used to fireworks. some of the most liberal members, some of the most sk conservative members, big defenders of president trump.
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expect to see some of the fireworks on that standpointed at other members as opposed to the witnesses. >> so scholars and impeachment experts on wednesday. garrett haake, thank you. let me bring in glen kirchner, former federal prosecutor, also a msnbc legal analyst, and yamiche alcindor, pbs "newshour" white house correspondent. she is also an msnbc political contributor. thanks to both of you. mr. kirchner, i'll start with you, sir. if you were a house judiciary committee chairman nadler, if you were him right now, planning on how you would kick off this next phase of the impeachment inquiry, who are the first witnesses you would call on wednesday? >> so, craig, it looks like we're going to hear from a number of academic scholars who can give the american people a few different lessons. a civics lesson, a history lesson, a constitutional law lesson, and i think what's going to be most important is for those witnesses to be kind of plainspoken academics. and i know that might sound like an oxymoron, we've all had
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professors who are particularly engaging and captivating, and then there are some that are a little bit dry and i'm hoping that the academics that representative nadler chooses are the kinds of folks who can really drive home to the american people why it is that the president doing what he did, trying to bribe or extort president zelensky by withholding aid that ukraine needed to defend itself from unlawful russian aggression in exchange for having president zelensky announce, not conduct, but announce a sham investigation, into biden, one of the president's political opponents, really does constitute squarely and inarguably a violation of the impeachment clause. because, one, it's bribery, and two, it is a violation of his oath of office. and of the trust that the american people put in him. and that makes it a high crime and misdemeanor. really, there are a couple of
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different ways with that one act and that one course of conduct, president trump violated the impeachment clause. >> stand by for me, if you can. i want to bring in jeff bennett for just a moment here, jeff bennett there at the white house. and jeff, we just saw and heard from president trump a few moments ago, leaving for the nato summit. what's the message that he left with lawmakers on impeachment on his way out of town? >> reporter: well, it was an airing of presidential grievances, craig. the president still trying to paint the impeachment process as a partisan pursuit, not worthy of his time. if we have the sound, we can play it. if not, i can just keep talking. let me know. the president was talking about how he thinks it will play politically. if we have it, we can play it right now. >> they're getting killed in their own districts. i think it's going to be a tremendous boon for the republicans. republicans have never, ever been so committed as they are right now and so united.
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so it's really a great thing in some ways, but in other ways, it's a disgrace. it's a disgrace for our country. >> reporter: so here's the deal. the impeachment process is moving from the fact-finding phase to the prosecution or the indictment phase. and when the house voted -- when they formalized the impeachment inquiry and established rules of the road, it was known to both democrats and republicans on the hill, but also the president and his lawyers that this phase was when the white house would be invited to mount a defense, to call witnesses, to prevent evidence, if they so chose. so right now, the white house is choosing to sit out, at least wednesday's hearing. pat cipollone, the white house counsel said he would get back to chairman nadler about a friday deadline about whether or not the white house would participate in future judiciary committee proceedings. but on one level, because the white house has invested so much in trying to undermine this entire process. there are republicans who say, for president trump to now try
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to participate would only validate and legitimatize it. and then you have democrats who say the reason why the white house won't mount a proper defense is because they don't have a proper defense to mount. that all of the evidence, all of the testimony, all of it points in one direction. that president trump used his public office for personal gain. and if the white house were to bring forward witnesses to testify to something other than that, those people would ultimately perjure themselves, craig. >> jeff bennett there from the white house. jeff, thank you. let me go back to the panel here for a moment. yamic yamiche, we'll see a whole different cast of characters come wednesday on the judiciary committee than what we saw on the intelligence committee during those hearings. how do republicans use this new phase and this new platform, how do they use it to try to undermine the impeachment arguments that have been made so far by democrats? >> well, republicans are really gearing up to mount another defense for the president, because now that the white house is saying that they're not going
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to bring their own lawyers, the president is really going to be relying on his allies on the judiciary committee to make the case that he is really innocent, that he did nothing wrong, and that this is really democrats being angry about the 2016 election and wanting to unseat a legitimately elected president. and what i think we're going to see in this judiciary hearing committee is really the fireworks are going to be with the lawmakers, from my sources on capitol hill, it sounds as though these are going to be really academics who are going to be laying out in very academic ways how the constitution speaks about impeachment and high crimes and misdemeanors. last week or in the last few weeks, we should say, there were witness after witness that was really leaving lawmakers and the american public aghast. there were so many witnesses coming forward talking about what president trump directly did, so many witnesses coming forward saying, i had concerns about how the president was speaking to the president of ukraine. when in this case, we're really just going to have people talking about the constitution. and what you're going to have instead is lawmakers using this as a way to mount this kind of fierce defense of president
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trump. and president trump just out on the lawn, i was with other reporters. he sounded very confident in republicans holding the line for him. in the weeks past, the president has said, i think that democrats are holding it together. i think that nancy pelosi has a lot of democrats behind her. i want to see the republicans come out and be strong for me. and that's when you saw republicans really kick it up a notch and they started sitting in on these hearings, interrupting depositions. and they moved jim jordan to the house intelligence committee. and you saw jim jordan really go after the witnesses and i think really mount a defense for the president that he liked to see on tv. the president, even though he's going to be in nato, in london, he's going to be watching very closely how republicans defend him during this judiciary hearing. >> the president and his republican allies, from the beginning, they've called the entire process a sham. saying democrats have blocked the white house from participating. now democrats invite the white house to participate on wednesday. the administration says "no." does that undercut their
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argument about fairness? >> well, it sure highlights the fact that they have no defense to the president's crimes or impeachable offenses. and real quick, following up on something jeff bennett said. you know, when you look at pat cipollone's letter and he incessantly complains that the president's not getting his constitutional due process rights, let me just take that down once and for all. the fifth amendment to the constitution says that nobody can be deproived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. that doesn't apply to an impeachment hearing. the president isn't going to be deprived of life or of liberty, not yet, or of property without due process of law. pat cipollone knows that the due process claws of the fifth amendment doesn't apply to an impeachment hearing. and all of the whining and complaining to the contrary won't change that fact. and finally, i'm reminded of teddy roosevelt's quote of, it's not the critic that counts, but the person that's willing to step into the arena. so pat cipollone has already
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said, the president is not willing to step into the arena. he's going to set on the back bench and complain and send his little tweet bombs, which is how he chooses to participate, which is a sign of weakness and a sign of no defense at all on the merits. >> meanwhile, yamiche, senator john kennedy, republican from louisiana, this has gotten a lot of attention over the last 24 hours, senator kennedy had been a staunch defender of the president, a bit of a sound bite machine there on the hill. i want to play just a series of comments that he made on "meet the press" yesterday, about the entire process. here's what he said. >> who do you believe was responsible for hacking the dnc and clinton campaign computers, their e-mails? was it russia or ukraine? the entire intelligence community says it was russia. right. but it could also be ukraine. he said, only russia tried to
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hack the dnc computer. now, chris is right. i was wrong. i think both russia and ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. i think it's been well documented. the fact that russia was so aggressive does not exclude the fact that president poroshenko, actively worked for secretary clinton. now, if i'm wrong -- >> actively worked -- i mean, my goodness, secretary kennedy, you now have the president of ukraine saying he actively worked for the democratic nominee for president. now, come on! >> we just heard him same again that the ukrainian interfered in 2016. intelligence officials have said it was russia that pushed these similar claims as part of a propaganda effort, yamiche. what's happening with the senator from louisiana? do we know? >> the senator from louisiana is following, in some ways, the president of the united states,
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which is that president trump has been talking about this debunked claim that ukraine hacked into -- that ukraine helped get democrats elected, that the ukraine was after him. he said in white house meeting after meeting that ukraine tried to take him down. so senator kennedy is really echoing the paranoia and the fear of president trump. but what we see is that the intelligence community fwh, including the trump administration's own community and agencies, they say this was all russia. and fiona hill, the national security counsel aide who testified before congress publicly said that this is a propaganda put out by russians to try to confuse americans and to try to somehow basically sow discord in the american public. and that this is something that americans should be very, very wary of. but you have senator kennedy and president trump wanting to actually make the case that ukraine meddled in the election, because they want to make sure that they think as though russia was somehow just another country that this was not something that was just russia. and i think that that's
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problematic. and i think that the president is essentially not only senator kennedy, but the president has been doing this too. >> yamiche alcindor, yamiche, thank you. glenn kirschner, always glad to have you. thank you, as well. we have a split screen unfolding on the campaign trail this morning. two of the top democratic candidates, joe biden and pete buttigieg, both spending the day in each other's strongholds, trying to pick off support. should heater of them be worried? we'll take a look at that and go to both places. also, the supreme court just moments ago wrapped up, finished hearing those arguments in its first gun legislation case in nearly a decade. could affect the local gun laws in country passed since the sandy hook shooting. y hook shoo. nah. not gonna happen.
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mayor pete buttigieg and former vice president joe biden are spending the day in each other's perceived strongholds, trying to pick off support. right now, biden is speaking at an event in iowa. in fact, this is a live look. this is emmetsburg, iowa, about 150 miles north of des moines -- no, that is not vice president biden, but the vice president expected to take to that podium any moment now. this is all part of his so-called no malarkey bus tour. more on the name in just a moment. meanwhile, pete buttigieg stopping at a vineyard in south carolina. this is one of many events that the mayor of south bend, indiana, is holding in the
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palmetto state, today. that is where we find our road warriors. mike memoli is traveling with biden's bus tour in iowa. vaughn hillyard is in pete buttigieg in south carolina. gentlemen, good to see both of you. looks like we've got a bit of a turf war playing out. joe biden making a play in the state where buttigieg is leading. pete buttigieg in joe biden's stronghold there in the palmetto state. mr. memoli, i'll start with you. first of all, mike, and we see the bus behind you there. this no malarkey bus tour, where'd he come up with the title? >> well, craig, you know, i've been following the vice president now for more than a decade. and this is a classic bidenism. this is a word that he's used sprinkled within his speeches for his career. i've been surprised how many people didn't know it. i asked the vice president the other day, to give people a quick reminder of what it means. and he says, it's an irish term that means bs. we'll just make that clear. but there's absolutely no doubt that this is now day three of
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this no malarkey bus tour. it's really just an effort by the biden campaign to really step up the pace of the campaigning. this has felt much more like the classic biden that i've been following for a decade now since -- than what we've seen for most of this year. i should point out, you mentioned he's about to take the stage. he actually just walked past us here at this spot a few moments ago. i asked him about the nato summit that you saw the president just take off for. let's listen to what he said about the future of nato if the president is re-elected. >> it's important, at least in my experience, that you show up where you can. we have planned to do this for a long time. now that iowans are really beginning to make up their minds and beginning to focus after thanksgiving, i think it's really important. and you know, rural america has enormous potential to help all of america. and they're being left behind. so i'm going to talk a little bit about that. but thank you very much. >> so that's the vice president talking about the state of the play here in iowa. i did ask him, as i mentioned,
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about the future of nato under president trump. he said, listen, i'll say a prayer as he heads over for that nato summit. he said, there's a chance for redemption. but look at what president trump has done. he has warned on the campaign trail that nato may not exist, and that foreign policy argument is one that he's really leaned into. this idea that he's ready to be president on day one. we'll continue to hear that from him we expect over the next five days left in this no malarkey tour. >> mark memoli there with no malarkey. vaughn hillyard appears to be standing in some woods, but he is not. he is actually at a vineyard there. and this is round o., south carolina. i'm from the state, but full disclosure, i had never heard of round o. until the editorial meeting this morning. you're between orangeburg and charleston, as i understand it there. what's mayor pete up to today? >> reporter: god bless the people of round o., but we actually don't have cell service. it's about a couple of minutes down the road.
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our colleague, priscilla thompson is over there. pete buttigieg is currently at a vineyard. i'm told that he is currently taste testing some of the wins here. pete buttigieg doesn't have a bus like joe biden does for this swing here. so we're going to be catching the road to go track him down after this hit. but this is a swing through the south for pete buttigieg. you can see, he's leading the polls over in iowa, doing well in new hampshire. but then you look across the south here. here in south carolina, still struggling in polling, where joe biden is consistently reigned the formidable candidate here. you know, this is the pete buttigieg over the next two months, really needs to reign in support. you look at tomorrow, he's launching a $2 million tv ad buy here in south carolina. you know, i talked with a voter just yesterday who said was frankly unfamiliar with pete buttigieg. knew all the other top-tier candidates but very little about the south bend mayor. i want to play for you part of an interview yesterday from reverend william barber, at the start of this swing from pete
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buttigieg. he started over in goldsboro, north carolina. over at the church of reverend william barber, who is the individual who resurrected the poor people's campaign started back in 1968 by reverend martin luther king. i want to let you hear some of the conversation. there's been a conversation over, why is pete buttigieg not attracting support at this point in this campaign here across the south, particularly among african-american voters. one of those ideas and those concepts that has been pushed out there is hesitancy towards same-sex relationships from african-americans. i want to let you hear, though, from reverend barber yesterday with pete buttigieg, pushing back on that point. >> we don't buy into these false narratives. you know, we keep hearing them now, there's some rift between certain communities, black folk, stop putting that on black folk. stop all that stuff about there's some i told you all of this rift. there ain't no data behind that, that there's some rift between
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black folk and gay folk. >> reporter: i can tell you, craig, though, that folks in iowa are also looking at what's happening down here. intalked to wendy hyatt, and she says that she is now hesitant to support pete buttigieg because of his polling numbers in places like south carolina, saying in 2020, they need to build up that coalition. that is what pete buttigieg is trying to prove from the southern swing, from north carolina to south carolina, he'll be in alabama later this week, craig. >> vaughn hillyard there, off a dirt road in round o., south carolina. vaughn, thank you and a big thank you to mike memoli as well. for the first time in nearly a decade, the supreme court is wading into the highly charged gun debate. and with the court's new conservative majority, there's some real concerns over how this case, this particular case could influence gun laws for years to
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the supreme court just finished hearing arguments in its first major case on guns in a decade. and it's a case that could have some major implications for gun rights nationwide. our justice correspondent, putin williams, was inside the court this morning, listening to those arguments. pete, what can you tell us? >> could have major implications, probably won't. i think this case has sort of fizzled out. and here's the reason. the law at issue here was a strange one. it existed only in new york city. it said that if you had a permit to have a gun at home, you could only carry your gun for target practice to a shooting range inside the city limits. and it was challenged by some gun owners in new york who wanted to take their guns to
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shooting ranges outside the state or to second homes. they lost in the lower courts. they appealed to the supreme court, the supreme court took the case and then the city repealed the ordinance and the state passed a law saying no other city could do the same thing. so the law is off the books. so the only question here was, was there still enough to fight about over the second amendment? and the answer seems to be "no." at least, i don't see five votes among the conservatives to say, yes, we should still take this case and make it a major test of the second amendment outside the home. now, the interest was high here, because about a decade ago, the supreme court said for the first time in history, the second amendment does protect an individual right, but only an individual right to have a gun at home. so the question has always been, well, want the part of the second amendment that means, keep and bear arms? but it doesn't mean this case will be a vehicle for that. there is very little discussion among the justices today about the meaning of the second amendment outside the home. most of it was about whether
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this case was moot, whether the challengers could still face penalties from the city, for example, when they're going to a shooting range in new jersey, if they stop for coffee or the bathroom or to get gasoline, would that be an interpretation in the trip? and the lawyer says "no." and we won't penalized anyone for past violations of this statute. it does seem there's not enough to fight here. there's still some strong believers in the second amendment, samuel alito, sam gorsuch, who probably want to reach the merits. but curiously, brett kavanaugh said absolutely nothing today. it didn't seem like passions were high to use this case to get to the second amendment question, which is inevitably going to come back here. >> justice correspondent putin williams with some reporting and some analysis. all of may be much to do about nothing. pete, thank you so much. let me bring in robin thomas for a moment. robin is the executive director of the giffords law center to
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prevention gun violence. he spoke to supporters outside the supreme court a few moments ago, as i understand it. you just made your way there to the studio not far from the high court itself. robin, what did you tell that crowd outside the court? >> first of all, it was a cold and rainy morning. and it was a big crowd out there. it was good to see people showing up and showing they support for the importance of this issue for the fact that americans do want our leaders to be looking at the problem of gun violence and passing laws that protect them better. what i said to the crowd is that we're not giving up, we're not going anywhere. the nra and the gun lobby can continue to challenge whatever laws they want. we've passed more than 300 life-saving laws since parkland. and even though they keep challenging it on behalf of the gun lobby to try to weaken our ability to protect the public, we're not giving up or going anywhere. the american people have spoken on this issue. i'm happy to say that the arguments didn't seem like
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they're going not direction we feared. it seems like this is not a case that's going to undermine all of that great progress we've made. >> your supporters inside the courtroom got the same sense as our justice correspondent, putin williams got, that this was not going to be the case that upended any sort of settled law? >> you know, it's hard to know for sure, because really, the court can do, in some senses, what they want. it does sound like they did not focus as much on the merits as they did on the mootness of the case. on the fact that this law has already been repealed, and really courts are not supposed to be issuing judgments on situations where there's no law on the books anymore. it's simply not the way our legal system is intended to work with regard to standing. so it ounsounds like there was lot of conversation about that. that's actually very helpful, because it sounds like they're not focussing on trying to expand the previous decision, the heller case, to encompass more cases where the second amendment, you know, inhibits
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gun regulations. so that's good news. >> this is the first time in roughly a decade, though that the court has even heard a second amendment case, like this one. for folks who haven't been following every twist and turn, what has changed in that decade? >> so much has changed. in the decade since heller, heller struck down a very, very narrow law that prohibited gun ownership in washington, d.c., and since then, courts have upheld hundreds and hundreds of laws that have been challenged on second amendment grounds. and the supreme court itself have actually rejected and refused to hear challenges to almost a hundred cases that they've had an opportunity to hear. so they've really chosen not to expand that very, very narrow decision in heller. in the meantime, the shooting at sandy hook elementary school happened, the shooting at parkland pulse nightclub and hundreds of law have said passed, which protect our communities and in some states have really helped to reduce gun
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violence. so we're seeing a lot of progress being made, and these cases really have the opportunity to leave that alone and allow progress to continue to be made, which is directly in line with what the american people are demanding. the american people, more than 90% want universal background checks, risk protective orders, limits on assault weapons. the american people are clear that it's time for us to continue making progress to regulate guns in a way that makes our children safer and our communities safer. we were together at the democratic candidates forum. all of those candidates are standing up with very comprehensive platforms to address this issue. and that's what we need in 2020. we need to see solutions to the problem come to the forefront, not ways in which the gun lobby and gun industry wants to make sure that more guns are sold and more gun violence continues to plague us. >> robin thomas, we'll leave it there, robin. thank you . thanks for your time. >> meanwhile, for the first time since the shooting at their school, students at saugus high
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school in santa clarita, california, went back to class this morning. a shooting there about two weeks ago left two classmates dead, three others were hurt. the gunman also a student, took his own life after the shooting. staff members waited at the entrance gates to greet students. one student telling our nbc station, knbc, quote, it is going to be really difficult, but i know through this sense of community, we'll be okay. right now president trump on his way to london for the nato summit. he's set to arrive right in the middle of campaigns for the next british prime minister. will the president of the united states be able to stay out of the politics of great britain. also, democrats could be on the verge of beating the president at his own game. new signs they may be closing the cash gap. signs they may be the cash gap we made usaa insurance for members like martin.
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right now, president trump making his way to london, where he's set to take part in the annual nato summit. and despite his prior criticisms of the alliance as obsolete, as he heads back on the world stage, this time he's reportedly shifting his tone a bit. as "the wall street journal" puts it, quote, the white house struck a more conciliatory tone ahead of a meeting to mark nato's 70th anniversary, taking credit for increased military spending by member countries and declaring that the quote trans-atlantic relationship is in a very, very healthy place. let's bring in david ignatius, foreign affairs columnist, associate editor at "the washington post." he is also an msnbc political
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contributor. so, david, on his way out of town, it sounded as if the president had changed his tune, if you will. this is part of what he said about nato funding. take a listen. >> it has not been a fair situation for us, because we pay far too much, as you know. secretary stoltenberg said that we were responsible -- i was responsible for getting over $130 billion extra from other countries that we protect, that weren't paying. they were delinquent. >> david, what do you make of the president's 180 to a certain extent on nato? >> i think it's more probably 90 degrees, craig. but i think that trump can claim credit. he likes to do that for all sorts of things. for getting modestly increased spending for nato from some countries, germany is an example. that's something that he's been talking about since he became
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president. the deeper problem is that the transatlantic alliance that he is touting as having helped is really in worse shape than at any time, i think, during my lifetime. there's fundamental doubt and skepticism in europe about american promises to stand by europe. trump's decision to allow turkey to invade northern syria deeply upset many of our european allies. president macron of france, who sometimes is a friend of donald trump's, said last month that he thought nato was brain-dead. so, it's not a picture of european confidence in an american-led alliance, wahateve the questions of nato spending may be. >> david, we are -- my math is accurate, i believe less than two weeks away from elections there in england.
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a major decision to be made on how, if ever, they decide to get out of the european union. boris johnson, the prime minister there, as all but begged president trump not to say or do anything while he is there that might impact the election, if you will. the likelihood that president trump manages to stay out of the fray there in terms of british politics? >> my guess is the likelihood is zero. i just don't see donald trump going to britain at a time just before the election and not having some impact when he is standing before microphones and reporters, he just tends to talk about what's on his mind and boris johnson is, i'm sure will be. and that will have some impact. donald trump is very unpopular in britain and across europe. i think the question that will come up is whether if britain
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chooses the brexit plan that boris johnson is promoting, in running for the prime ministership, will the united states quickly do a trade deal with britain that would have economic benefits? i don't see how trump can escape answering that question. and i think the answer that he gives may have some impact on the vote. he says, yeah, we'll do it right away, it's going to be good for britain, inevitably, that will be a plus for johnson and his brexit arguments. >> turkey's president, erdogan, scheduled to be there at the summit. turkey's incursion into northern syria is handling of his refugees, is that something that's likely to come up there at nato over the three-day period? >> so to be honest, the hardest issue nato really is grappling with now is trick turkey's stat. turkey has become such an unreliable partner. turkey has become increasingly
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undemocratic, jailing political opponents, jailing journalists. i believe turkey has more journalists in jail than any country around the world. and europeans are unhappy, upset about this, questioning turkey's reliability. and then there's a question of turkey buying an air defense system from russia at the same time that it's part of an alliance that at least in part is about defending europe against russia. so these are questions that make europeans uneasy. donald trump as that warm relationship with president erdogan of turkey. he has been his protector and supporter in the past. that's one of the things to watch this week. does that blow up because of european anger at turkey? >> david ignatius, always good to have you. thank you, sir. >> great, thank you. for months, democrats have lagged behind the so-called trump money machine. but looks like they could finally be on the verge of catching up. why the two billionaires in the
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well, after months of concerns over the so-called trump money machine, democrats may finally be catching up to the president's catch advantage
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and that is thanks to an influx of cash, largely from these two men. the two billionaires in the race. tom steyer and former new york city mayor michael bloomberg, the new entry into the field of contenders. the former new york city mayor has pledged to spend $100 million on ads targeting the president. tom steyer has already dumped about $47 million into the race. but, will it be enough to counter the gop, which has repeatedly broken fund-raising records? i'm joined now by democratic strategist, michael star hopkins, who's worked on the campaigns of barack obama, li hillary clinton, and until recently, john delaney. and from "the washington post," jackie alemany who writes the paper's "powerup" news letter. good to see you. i'll start with you, michael. there are so many
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perhaps 25 people in a room here and i picture to guess roughly
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half of them will have an opportunity to ask a question of dr. biden. this goes over all over iowa. the associated press wrote about it over the weekend. they summed it up this way with a series of quotes from black voters who have connected with joe over the years. one says i know joe's heart. we were like he's got our back. he's going to consult with us and make the right decision. why do you think it is that in the most diverse field of democratic presidential candidates we've ever had, cory book booker, kamala harris, you've got joe biden who's still well into the double digits with black voters. how can that be?
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why are black voters still loyal to joe biden? >> i don't think we can emphasize enough how far ahead joe biden is with voters of color. he's 40 points ahead with their support of bernie sanders who comes up in second to biden. i think that speaks to the work that he's put in really since the '60s, since he was a legislature in wilmington, delaware, and made inroads and worked on those relationships throughout the entirety of his career. it's going to be difficult for someone like mayor pete buttigieg who's scrambling to catch up with biden and rating at zero with voters of color. montana governor steve bullock announcing this morning that he is dropping out, saying it became clear he could not break through the so-called top
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live. right now "andrea mitchell reports". >> thank you. right now conspiracy theory, why does a republican senator continue to push a debunked talking point scripted by vladimir putin's intelligence services? >> i think both russia and ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. >> you realize the only other person selling this argument outside the united states is this man, vladimir putin. you have done exactly what the russian operation is trying to get american politicians to do. are you at all concerned that you've been duped? >> no. because just read the articles. >> we'll have a fact check on the senator's so-called proof coming up. phase two, the house intelligence committee prepares to release its report and the judiciary committee prepares to open its first impeachment hearings even as thehi

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