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harvard/yale stuff on the show? i can talk to somebody from ucla. >> i was going to say, oh, a yale girl but she wouldn't have known what it meant. b it's gill began's island. come on. >> have fun with logan and the gang there. i'll see you tomorrow. >> happy birthday logan. i'll soee you tomorrow. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to weekends and alex witt. breaking news, it's about to begin. early voting will soon be under way in nevada. the third early contest of the 2020 presidential race. first reports that mike bloomberg may be considering hillary clinton to be his running mate. and a washington post report based on a review of court documents and depositions obtained through the freedom of information act which details
allegations against bloomberg for profanity and sexism through the years. josh, let's talk about the reaction from the bloomberg campaign. first the provocative question of hillary clinton? what's the reaction there, and might bloomberg really be considering hillary clinton and if so, why? >> this took a lot of people by shock today, alex. partially because a lot of people remember vividly hillary clinton's loss in 2016 and are skeptical about whether having her on the ticket would help or hurt the democratic nominee given the way a lot of republicans feel about her these days. the campaign is not confirming he is considering her. in fact, we are told in a statement, we are focussed on the primary and the debate, not v.p. speculation. so far they're not willing to confirm that hillary clinton is really under consideration for that job. >> we'll leave that alone but
let's get to this, josh, "the washington post" report, what is this about and what is the bloomberg camp reaction to it? . >> reporter: these are allegations from several women, many of which have been around for years against mike bloomberg that he made sexist comments or derogatory comments about women. these were made many years ago, including in the 1990s. one of the allegations that's detailed in "the washington post" report has to do with a lawsuit that a woman who worked for bloomberg filed claiming she was discriminated against by him when she became pregnant and was going to have to take maternity leave. the bloomberg campaign was clearly very ready to respond to this when it came out today, alex. they had a slew of statements to put out, including a video on twitter, featuring many women who worked for bloomberg, attesting to the way he promoted and included women in the workforce and a statement from
his campaign chairwoman who is on the campaign and runs his charities, and has been at his side for decades. harris saying in a statement, in any large organization, there are going to be complaints. but mike has never tolerated any kind of discrimination or harassment and he's created cultures that are all about equality and inclusion. these are among several new allegations made about mike bloomberg over the last several days. it's an indication once you become a more serious candidate in the race and your rivals take you seriously they drop this opposition research and try to take you down a beg. >> thank you for that. joining me is selena maxwell and rick tyler. zulina you worked on the clinton campaign. first of all your thoughts on the report that mike bloomberg is considering hillary clinton
as a running mate. what do you think? >> one of the things annoying me about this particular election cycle is when the men running for president speculate about women or women of color they're going to put on the bottom of their ticket at number two in order to help their chances. why can't we talk about the women themselves. and hillary clinton, to be clear, has said over and over again, she's never saying never but she's not going to run again. i'm highly skeptical of this particular report and i think in some ways it's to send a signal to the folks who still love hillary clinton that they should take a look at michael bloomberg. but they should look at him on his own record. he has plenty of issues to address, he has not been in a debate, has not done a national interview on television. so right now he's blanketing the airwaves with glossy advertisements and millions of dollars behind advertisements didn't work to sell products,
even defect i've ones, they wouldn't spend so much on advertising. >> if you speculate on a bloomberg/hillary ticket, as long as it's out there today, would that get them to the white house? >> i don't know. i agree with zerlina, i don't think this is real. i don't think hillary wants to run. she's sort of a mixed bag. there's a lot of positives with hillary clinton but there's also a lot of negatives. and one is black turnout was down in the 2016 election with her at the top of the ticket. i don't know who's fuelling this or what the purpose is. i have to believe, she says she's not interested and so i'll take her at her word. we'll see. >> let's get to the issues now that you mentioned, and specifically he's been faced, mike bloomberg, with a lot of criticism w over comments on redlining and stop and frisk policy. but this week you had three
members of the cbc endorsing mike bloomberg. here's what gregory meeks told my colleague earlier. >> african-american voters are sophisticated voters. they know their interest is making sure that donald trump is defeated. that's absolutely the interest. so they're going to move in the direction that they think who is the best person to defeat donald trump and then who is also going to talk about their agenda, which is home ownership, reducing the wealth gap, getting people back into the workforce at jobs that can pay a decent salary and they're looking at mike bloomberg and what he has done in those areas. >> what do you make of that reasoning? does the ultimate goal of beating donald trump in november mean the voter should overlook previous policies? >> no. and i don't think by accepting a deeply flawed candidate,
particularly one that hasn't debated any of the other candidates -- i think we're jumping ahead before black and brown people have an opportunity to weigh in at the ballot box, it's important to get endorsements from the cbc but it doesn't necessarily translate into black support. we will see. obviously there's polls moving up but we'll see when it comes to voting whether or not this translates. hillary clinton got plenty of cbc endorsements and turnout was down among black voters in 2016. so endorsements go a certain distance but they don't necessarily go all the way. that is the responsibility of the candidate themselves and his record is one that should be examined by black and brown communities because it's nice to put money behind good causes but if you are doing that at the same time that you're throwing black children up against the wall and then defending it up until weeks before you're announcing your run, then people i think have a right to be
skeptical of whether or not you really care about these communities. >> do you think the apology he gave for stop and frisk saying he realized too late it's something he needed to deal with in administration and attempted to and statistically did deal with -- do you not buy that apology? >> i don't buy it at all, alex. that apology is not eventual factually correct. he did not end the policy, he got sued and the policy was ruled unconstitutional. he was forced to scrap the policy. so he's revising history. and he's doing so at the -- because most of the people outside of new york aren't as intimately aware of his history on race issues. additionally the central park five for me i think is the deal breaker. he blocked their settlement for over a decade. that means that everybody that watched that netflix series, love all of those men, saw what
they went through, chethey were exonerated and had to wait 10 years to get compensated by the city and mike bloomberg's administration blocked that payment. that was an intentional choice, not an oversight he has to explain that. >> back to what gregory meeks said. do you think, if the top priority is to beat donald trump, do you think michael bloomberg could do that? >> yes, i think a statue could beat donald trump, alex -- >> really? >> i think we should not have to settle -- yes, i do believe that. because donald trump is a flawed candidate. 49% approval is not high. i think that everything has been so normalized and we are giving him sort of a lot more credit that we didn't give pref previous presidents with low approval. i think a lot of these candidates are able to beat donald trump if they're able to put forward a message that
resonates with the communities they need to put out. >> i'm told by the control booth that rick tyler was chuckling. today, rick, could anybody beat donald trump in a general election? who do you think is gaining the most traction for realistically doing it november? >> no, i don't think anybody can beat donald trump. for instance i don't believe bernie sanders could beat donald trump because he's proposing something being fought out in nevada today, which is not only people will lose their private insurance, which most will like. unions will lose the health care that they've earned, that they've been negotiating, and seniors will lose medicare and that supplemental insurance. as people look closer to that, i think that can be something that the campaign will run against. i'm listening carefully to zerlina and i share her passion for the fact that a lot of things that mike bloomberg has said about race are really
inexcusable. they're hard to get by. i would say that mike has placed a huge bet on super tuesday. so he's avoided three states where, you know, person-to-person contact, which he's not particularly good at, so that's a bet, and facing african-americans, which is a large percentage of the vote in south carolina, he's going to miss all that. and so -- and nobody has emerged out of this field as the front runner. and joe biden, in my opinion, his theory of the race has collapsed. and people say it's early. i looked up 17 other candidates who aren't going to go on. i don't think joe biden goes on. >> you mean past super tuesday? you don't think he goes on -- >> i think he's done now, i'll tell you why. people used to believe he could beat donald trump and that's the reason. and older black voters are pragmatic. everything is a flawed conditioned.
mike bloomberg i agree is flawed. it's up to them in south carolina and other places to see if they will take his apology, which the timing, of course, is, you know, suspicious to say the least, and think he can beat donald trump. that's the question that needs to be answered right now. >> last word to you zerlina on that. >> i don't think we have to settle for a candidate that doesn't represent the interest of the base of the democratic party. this race is not over. we are just getting started. we've gone through two states with 90% white voting populations p. we have not heard from black and brown voters, not talking about polls, but actual votes. once those get counted and mike bloomberg is not on those ballots the next few weeks. we're talking about him and nobody is going to be able to vote for him this week or next. so i think that we should take a close look at the candidates that are on the ballot. what are they putting forward for black and brown communities and then we can assess whether
michael bloomberg can measure up. you can't apologize for something a week before you announce running for president and then not put anything behind it. he could pay reparations to the families directly impacted by his own stop and frisk policies, he hasn't done that. he's offered an apology. >> thank you both. back to campaign 2020. one week from today, the rest of nevada's voters get to decide on a candidate. senator bernie sanders currently the favorite, leading the pole with 25%. there are 36 delegates up for grabs on saturday and of the 64 that have been awarded, pete buttigieg slightly leading with 22. sanders has 21. and today the eight democratic candidates are on the road campaigning with a strong focus on nevada. they've chris crossed the
country, trying to win support for next week and looking ahead to super tuesday. >> think of jimmy carter, bill clinton, barack obama, these were not the people they thought were going to win, but the people of the country, especially the early states, thought otherwise. they defied the odds. >> don't listen to anybody that tells you you have to choose between going this way after your head and this way after your heart. we have to choose the right way to govern well or the best way to win big. we need to come together in unity and boldness. >> we're in the battle for the soul of this country. president obama, in fact, embodied, i thought all that was good about who we were. donald trump has actually gone out and poisoned our soul. >> we are on a path to win the democratic nomination. and as you may have noticed, the
establishment getting a little bit nervous. well, i say to them, tough luck, change is coming. >> what we need in america is a grass roots movment. we can't just have government run by and for billionaires and people who suck up to billionaires. and a big part of that starts with how you build that movement, grass roots up. joining me now is simone boyce, at a polling location in las vegas for us. welcome simone. walk us through how this works and how it's different from the early voting in other states. >> reporter: yeah, the early caucusing that's happening here in nevada is very unique. it is very different. we're standing outside a polling location in east las vegas. this is a predominantly hispanic community. and that is by design. nevada democrats have been strategic about where they have placed these early voting
locations in order to ensure that caucus goers this year are more diverse than in years past. because traditionally caucus goers have looked more suburban, older and white. here's how this process going to work. when you come into an early vote location like this, you'll fill out a preference card where you have to fill out a minimum of three preferences for your presidential candidate and a total of five. now at the end of the early voting period, which ends on the 18th, those paper ballots, they will be transferred, and i'm told this is all happening on paper. those will be transferred back to the voters' home precinct. this is where it gets confusing because we know as caucuses take place, it's all about what's happening in real time, what people are saying in the room, how people are realigning if a candidate isn't viable. so this early voting data will be integrated with the caucus data in the room and nevada democrats are using some
technology in order to do that. and that is making some security experts a little bit nervous. >> i'm just reading all the rules here, i find it to be very confusing. really quickly, you put your first choice then you have to add two more, are they in that order? definitely second, definitely third? is it a point allotment system or something? >> reporter: so the way it works, alex, you mark one, two, three, all the way up to five. let's say a candidate isn't viable in one of the caucuses on saturday. then the officials will then jump to your second preference. and they will continue to do that throughout the process. now if none of your preferences are viable, then your vote doesn't count in the caucus. >> wow. okay. this is so interesting. i think you used the word confusing, but as long as the experts there and the leadership knows what they're doing, okay.
simone, we'll have you back to talk more about this. thank you so much. meantime, this wednesday, nbc news and msnbc will host the next democratic debate, live from las vegas three days before the nevada caucuses it's at 9:00 eastern on national weather service, msnbc. dramatic news by the justice department leaving it apparently at odds with the white house. "the washington post" suggesting a divide between the president and the attorney general bill barr over among other things the president's tweeting. that divide now reportedly exacerbated by the justice department's decision to drop the case against former fbi director andrew mccabe. joining me now, peter baker chief white house correspondent at the "new york times" and nbc news political analyst. welcome, peter. i want to get to the tweet,
it was written by the president, quoting from your article it reads ralph waldo emerson seemed
to foresee the lesson of the senate impeachment trial of president trump, when you strike at a king, emerson
famously said you must kill him. the president clearly emboldened by his impeachment trial, how much is that emboldening his behavior? >> in a way he embraces the idea he's been emboldened since the trial and he's now lashing out. he's expressing and venting his frustration, grievance, and acor. you're seeing it in a day in, day out basis with people being pushed out, ambassador sondland recalled, lashing out at the justice department, the judge, the jury fore woman. in a way he has a chance now to make clear how unfairly he believes he's been treated and a little bit of evening the scales. you know, mccabe, the decision on andrew mccabe not to prosecute him, really angered the president. that's somebody he's had in his
sights for a long time. he's called him names like sleaze bag and so forth. he blames mccabe for some of his problems and for the justice department not to prosecute him, he's livid. it's added a real interesting layer to this relationship that we thought had been pretty much lock step until now. >> my colleague, peter alexander asked this question of the president as to whether or not he learned from the impeachment. >> what lesson did you learn from impeachment? >> that the democrats are crooked. they've got a lot of crooked things going. they're vicious. that they shouldn't have brought impeachment. >> any indication that trump learned anything else? >> no. i think he's learned -- the other thing he's learned is to stop letting people listen in on his phone calls. he said in an interview this last week, he has too many people listening in on his calls. i think you're seeing the beginning of a retrenchment
inside his white house, pushing out career professionals, bringing back people like hope hicks that he trusts from his early campaign days and closing the circle around him to people he feels he can depend on. he's always been a suspicious person from the beginning and i think the last few weeks and months have convinced him he's right to be suspicious because everyone is out to get him. >> you talk about the lock step between donald trump and bill barr. but many were surprised by barr's criticism about the president's tweeting. >> i have made a decision that i thought was fair and reasonable in this particular case. and once the tweet occurred, the question is, well, now what do i do? to have public statements and tweets made about the department, about people in the department, our men and women here, about cases pending in the department, and about judges
before whom we have cases, make it impossible for me to do my job. >> look, there are critics who are calling this an act. a way for barr to preserve his credibility. some even suggesting with a wink and nod with the white house saying here's what i'm going to do just so you know i'm going to do this. is there any way, peter, to separate what's real and what's for show? >> it's a great question. understandable why people are cynical. the president hazlett this go without too much pushback but we're told it was not for sure, it was not a dance,en if it looks like that. what's important to remember is what bill bar is saying, he's not taking it as far as some people thinks he ought to. he agrees with the president on his view of how the president has been treated. he believes there has been misconduct by the justice department and the fbi in the past and he wants to take care
of that, he just doesn't want the president to be show casing it with his twitter feed because then it looks like he's simply following the orders of the president. what he's telling the president is, i'm on the case here but you're making it more difficult for me to do the things you and i agree i probably ought to do. >> in your piece when you write the relationship with donald trump and barr may be the most complicated relationship in town, is that because the president needs bill barr on his team? >> yeah, the president has been looking for his roy cohen as he puts it for three years. he didn't get it in jeff sessions, he was disappointed that the first attorney general recused himself from the russia investigation, that's for one reason, he wanted jeff sessions to protect him from the investigation, jeff sessions fol fol followed the rules as he understood them and he paid a price, got pushed out by the president in november of 2018. in bill barr, the president thought he got the attorney general he wanted.
bill barr had his back, in effect, with the mueller investigation, interpreted that report in the most favorable light for him. helped set the ground for that and really made a difference for the president. now he's unsure about that. he likes what bill barr did on roger stone, on michael flynn. but he doesn't like not prosecuting andrew mccabe and the fact that others like james comey haven't been prosecuted as well. >> peter, thank you. hope hicks is coming back to the white house. what's behind her return? i'm going to ask anthony scaramucci next. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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c conference. his excellents thecomments, did folks by surprise? >> reporter: they did. this is the first time we heard from the ukrainian president since the president was impeached and acquitted days ago. he laid out several different options and ways forward between the united states and ukraine. he talked about corruption in the ukraine, pushed back on the notion that ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. but one of the things that was fascinating was to hear him talk about the hope to reset the relationship between united states and ukraine. we have a little bit of what he had to say. >> translator: i'm sure it will happen you are too far from us distance after all this tv series about impeachment, about all this series, i want to come and start it from scratch.
our relations, to agree on some contracts to sign, some arrangements to agree on the strategic things, investments, let's prepare the package of the documents and arrange the meeting. >> reporter: so you hear him there saying he wants to reset the relationship with the united states and ukraine. you remember, this is a man who came into office and was quickly pulled into an enormous u.s. domestic politics issue. he wants to get past that and start focussing on ukraine and the help that that country needs to pull its out of this years long conflict they've been fighting there. remember, president zelensky has a similar background to donald trump, they both came from the entertainment industry. when the conversation started he made a joke of how they both came from the entertainment industry and he was hoping to push past that. we heard him talking about
impeachment being like the show dallas and whatnot. the first time we heard from the ukrainian president hoping to have a meeting with president trump and reset the relationship. >> thank you very much. hope hicks, she's returning to the white house two years after her abrupt exit. i'm going to ask someone who knows her, anthony scaramucci, about all of it when he joins me next. with type 2 diabetes like james lower their blood sugar. a majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. here's your a1c. oh! my a1c is under 7! (announcer) and you may lose weight. adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds. i lost almost 12 pounds! oh! (announcer) ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. there's no increased risk. oh! and i only have to take it once a week. oh! ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ (announcer) ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis.
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turning now to a family face heading back to the white house, a senior administration official tells nbc news former communication director hope hicks is returning after resigning nearly two years ago, she's expected to work closely with jared kushner and other senior advisers. joining me now is anthony scaramucci, former white house communications director under president trump. we had the best conversation in the commercial can we reair that thing? >> i'm happy to. we can talk about whatever you want. >> hope hicks, why is she coming
back? what's behind it? is loyalty -- is that the bottom line with this president? >> i haven't talked to hope about it, but i know her personality. i think she is a very good relationship with ivanka trump, she has a good relationship with jarred and that team, and i think she liked it. ultimately it was a great position for her. i think she's also done a great job of -- she's a beautiful woman that stayed out of the scenes, if you will. >> she's on the sidelines. >> i think that helped her as well. >> but again, why is she coming back to the white house? what can she gain by it? during the commercial we were talking, you said, it's like an insect being draught to a light. not that she's an insect. >> right. she's a brilliant person. i'm just saying it's an attractive thing. i think about myself, i lived a good part of the american dream, if you're offered a job by the president your inkling is to want to do it. in hope's case she's a good
family friend so you have those two things which is a powerful tonic not to want to do. i also suspect, l.a., you're from l.a., it's probably not everybody's cup of tea now you have a six month run to the end of the year. i predict the president will lose, i'm more confident of that because i've been on a worldwide trip and every e e listist i know thinks he's going to win. da s so, 85% of the people thought he was going to win. abd a buddha bee, 100% of the people think he's going to win. this is a six month run for her or a longer run. but if it's longer, everybody in the president's orbit they get reputational damaged, look at what happened to mayor giuliani and others. it's a paper shredder to reputations. >> what has happened to mayor
giuliani? >> my vantage point, i know the mayor reasonably well, i think the president moves the goal post on you and moves you to the point you're starting to disavow your personal integrity and personal life history. the mayor is an italian american, at one point one of his grandparents was told to go back to the country he came from. so when the president of the united states is using a racist tropicana like that and you're not sticking up for your background, you have e kwif waited in a way that i don't think is sustainable. that's what trump does to people. everybody is in the barrel with him heading to the waterfall. >> you're including hope in that? >> i think she's played it well. i'm hoping for her sake it's a six month run and then she finds a great career for herself. the a tas toe fee will be if if
he wins again, senate has empowered him -- remember you were talking about emerson, it wasn't about king. no one is king. emerson's point is most people live their life in desperation, and they need to be liberated and no one is king. and when someone thinks they're king in the united states it's time to throw the tea off the boat. so what they've done with the president is unconscionable. so somebody like mitt romney will be well reflected in history. adam schiff will be reflected well. someone like lindsey graham or mayor giuliani, they destroyed themselves. >> would you go back and work at the white house? >> i couldn't go back for president trump, but would i go back at some point in my life, sure. i lived the american dream, if there was someone there that wanted me to help them, i would.
you can't work for president trump, he is the paper shredder of people's reputations. guys like me, general kelly, he fired me but he and i have become personally close. you go through what i call trump employment syndrome, you start out disliking him, you hold your nose and try to like him and then the only thing he's searching is t-r-u-m-p, not searching usa. he only cares about himself. so i wish other people would be as honest as general kelly. >> i have a couple questions, what do you make of what he has said? does what he said, criticizing the president now, he stayed quiet in the early months after his departure. >> he's a good soldier, a loyal guy. remember, he is a gold star family member as well. 45 years in the u.s. marines.
he is a good guy. he's congenitally not capable of lying. which is why he's ill suited for politics because these guys are congenital liars. he's out there, left the post, trying to stay loyal because he thinks that's appropriate. for two years i was out there advocating the president's agenda but he keeps moving the goal post on you, children in cages, disavow of the intelligence agencies, taking on the press calling them the enemy of the people. then the four congresswoman, they have standing to live in the country, three were born here, all four were elected to the congress. you can't tell them to go back to the countries they came from. it's just racist, nonsense. >> when john kelly says i believe john bolton, what does that mean? that john bolton is telling the truth? >> yeah. whatever the policy disagreements, john bolton is an honorable, principled guy. in many ways, he'll be mad at he for saying it, but he's the
bernie sanders of the policies. you can dislike bernie sanders' policies but there's a thread of consistency in what he's saying. if someone told 17,000 lies and you have john bolton's career as a foreign service or public service officer and you had to compare the two and you were a member of a jury being objective, of course, you're going to believe john bolton. >> last question regarding the president, his behavior in the wake of being acquitted in the impeachment trial. is he operating with zero recklessly endanger another person -- with zero reins? >> i think he has been since day one. now he's in a position he's going to do and say what he wants. i think the bill barr stuff, i know people on this new yotwork
the's a contrived show, but i don't believe that. nobody is close to the president. if a person comes on the show and says, i'm friends with the p president, they're not friends with the president, nobody can be friends with a personality like that. i went to law school with guys like rod rosenstein, i know a lot of guys in the department of justice, i think bill barr is frustrated by the president's antics and looking at him saying i'm trying to help you and you're acting like a full-blown maniac on the international stage. i think bill barr is signaling to people that his reputation has gone through the paper shredder and he's not sure if he can put it back together. it's headed for tatters as a result of the indiscriminate action of donald trump. >> all that that you suggest people on this network and others say it might be a dance, peter baker said, no. >> yeah. he said no. my source inside the department of justice said no. bill barr had an exemplary
reputation until he started working in this administration. and like mayor giuliani and senator graham, his reputation is now heading for tatters. and so he would be well served to say, hey, look, i'm not going to allow this guy or anybody to get involved in the department of justice. we're going to need a constitutional amendment after the president's term is over. >> let's wrap up by saying be careful hope. >> we like hope. >> we do like hope. >> i'm proud of her. i hope she does an amazing job. she's a very good person. >> anthony scaramucci, this was fun. come see me again soon. >> of course. hundreds of people quarantined on a cruise ship now get to come home. why their ordeal is far from over. now starting at $7.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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france has confirmed the first coronavirus death outside of asia. meanwhile in japan, the u.s. embassy is preparing to evacuate 380 americans on a cruise ship and bring them back to the u.s. where they'll be in isolation for two weeks. joining me now, nbc's chief correspondent bill neely in hong kong for us. when are these released passengers going to be back in the u.s.? >> reporter: yeah, hi, alex. some relief in sight for them but the deal comes with strings attached. they can only get on the plane -- or two planes. the first of which will arrive
tomorrow evening. they can only get on if they're healthy. so they'll be tested before they get on, when they get on and when they land at travis air force base in california. when they're there they face another 14 days in quarantine. they've be on the ship in quarantine for 11 days. and a warning from the state department saying anyone who didn't get on the plane would be unable to return to the u.s. for, quote, a period of time. now i've been speaking to some of the passengers and they're far from happy. carrie from utah said that she was angry, frustrated, and disappointed at her government. she said they're holding me hostage, treating me like a prisoner. but she said she has almost no choice and she will go back. alex, that ship is almost a breeding ground for this virus. 285 people on board infected now.
another 67 in the last couple of days, including americans. so a really tough choice, but most of those americans will take that plan and try to get home. >> i'll bet they will. bill neely, thank you from hong kong. ten millennials stepping up. my next guest explains why they, including aoc, are the ones to watch. how bout no? no. uh uh, no way. ♪ come on. no. no. n... ni ni, no no! only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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future, the ones we've been waiting for looks through the lives and careers of ten millennial politicians. joining me is the author of that book and friend, charlotte alter, also a correspondent for time magazine. it's a fabulous book, people will have to read it for themselves. talk to me about the moment you knew you had to write this book. what did you hear on a global level? >> it was the moment that trump withdrew from the paris climb agreement in 2017. i looked at this man who was 71, who was and is the oldest first term president. he was surrounding by a grey be cabinet, elected by older white voters. at that time before the 2018 midterms he was supported by one of the oldest congresses in history. i thought to myself, this is a moment of generational warfare
that somebody who has so little at stake in the global future could be so rationally making this decision that would have an impact for generations of people my age and younger. >> that you have to deal with. >> exactly. >> that's right. >> so i thought to myself, every reporter in america is focussing on donald trump right now. but this isn't going to last forever. and so, i was like deciding that i would sort of look at the younger generation that was coming up and try to see if there were any young leaders i could find who were doing things on the state and local level to give a hint at what the future might look like when they're in charge. >> among them you speak with mayor pete buttigieg. i love the way you refer to everyone in the book, you call them by their first name, which is cool. you got an inclination in 2017 when you're sitting there doing an interview, chatting with him at a coffee shop and you thought, he may want to head to washington. he has bigger fish to fry, why was that? >> i was interviewing mayor pete
for a story about millennial mayors, that was sort of the germ of this project. i was talking to him about his dog. he said he and his husband had just gotten the doing, i said what's your dog's name, he say truman. i said why did you name him truman? he said, harry truman once said if you want a friend in washington, you should get a dog. i thought to myself, you live in south bend, what's that about? later that year he did run for dnc chair so probably there was a little bit of that there. but i could tell almost immediately when i met him, he was angling for a big national position. i had no idea he would be a democratic front runner the way he is. >> as you set out to write the book, did you get the book that you wanted to or were there things along the way that made you have to meander from the intent? were there things that surprised you? >> yeah, there were a lot of things that surprised me. i went out of my way to try to include republican perspectives
as well. -- >> elisestephanic. >> yes. carlos crew bellow. one of the things that surprised me is the extent to which there are some sort of shared values and shared attitudes that are generational and not necessarily partisan. for example, young republicans also believe in climate change. there's not the same kind of climate denial among young republicans. they have different ideas about the best ways to address it but it's not let's bring a snowball on the floor of congress and pre pretend it's not happening. young republicans have moved away from the christian rights morality. even though there may not be the same woke culture, young republicans do value diversity as a thing that is good in a way their older colleagues don't
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headquarters here in new york. dozens of early voting sites are open in nevada right now to kick off the third contest of this presidential primary season. the state's caucuses begin a week from today on february 11th, it'll be the most diverse group to have their say so far. there are 32 delegates up for grabs today. the latest poll shows bernie sanders in the lead with 25%. this week the eight remaining candidates travelled across the country from the west to the south and now today there's a clear focus on nevada as people begin four days of early voting there. we have a team of reporters and analysts with us to bring us the latest on the early nevada caucuses and the implications for the 2020 race. let's begin with simone boyce, welcome to you on the ground. what do you see on the ground so
far today? >> reporter: i can tell you the early voting process is under way. democracy is happening in the building behind us, this is a marketplace, a supermarket in east las vegas, and the polls haven't even opened there yet, they might be opening right now as we speak, at about 10:00 local time. we were just in there, behad a second to pop in and saw a line of about 15 people who were there to list their presidential preferences. that's how this works. when they participate in early voting they will have anywhere from three to five slots to mark down their preferences for their presidential candidate and the idea behind early voting this year, alex, when you participate in early voting, your vote actually counts in the nevada caucus. and that's by design to try to make early voting more accessible and bring it to the people. someone who can tell us more about this process is william
mcgirrty ii, he is a chair for the nevada democrats. what will make this a success this year? >> it's already a success because we have folks waiting to cast their presidential preference. we have done the work day in and day out to make sure our site leads, volunteers and everyone early voting will have a good experience. >> the reason all eyes are on nevada this week is because this could be the first true test of a candidate's support among a more diverse coalition of reporters. what is the strategy behind placing an early voting location here, one in chewinatown. >> the democrats have been focussed on making sure this is the most accessible, transparent and expansive caucus yet. we are seeing we have expanded it. we are going to make sure our caucus and early vote materials are offered in several
languages. and we have to make sure we meet folks where they are. you have folks doing their weekend shopping and they get a chance to peek inside our early voting center and cast their presidential preference. that's what this is about. we want to make sure that folks can participate where they are. which is why we're every from chinatown to little ethiopia. we want to make sure everyone has an opportunity to participate in democracy. >> alex one of the things you and i spoke about earlier today is how the technology is going to work, because there's going to be a combination of paper ballots being combined and integrated with google forms, google sheets, and the early vote data is going to be integrated with the caucus data in real time. you made a quick pivot away from the app that caused the headaches in iowa. before we wrap, how do you ensure we don't see another iowa here? >> reporter: it will not happen
in nevada, which is why immediately we decided not to use the app and we wanted a low tech easy to use option for our caucus goer. we got to work, put our head down and you can expect this will not only be a successful early vote but also a successful caucus. >> reporter: thank you, william. back to you. the other big stories in decision 2020 we're watching two headlines surrounding mike bloomberg's candidacy. one report says he's considering hillary clinton as a potential running mate. and an article in "the washington post" accuse bloomberg of work place sexism and profanity in the work place. josh some of my guests in the last hour said they're skeptical about the hillary clinton report, what are you hearing? >> reporter: the folks i'm
talking to in mike bloomberg world are also skeptical about whether that's really the case because hillary clinton, despite being the democratic nominee in 2016 remains a polarizing figure that could potentially backfire against mike bloomberg when it comes to his strategy of trying to portray himself of the person in the race best able to bring over some of the swing voters, some of the trump voters back to the democratic party. his campaign chairman telling nbc news today, we are focussed on the primary and the debate, not vice president shl speculation. >> let's get to "the washington post" report, some of the details have been public for some time but was the campaign expecting this to surface again? >> reporter: by all indications they were prepared for this to come out. they knew at some point he was going to have to deal with these allegations that have been out there for many years and have started resurfacing the last few days. the campaign responded this morning with a video they put on
twitter that featured a number of women that worked for mike bloomberg over the years and attested to the support he's given to women who worked for him. they also released a statement from patty harris, his campaign chairwoman who says in any large organization there are going to be complaints but mike has never tolerated any kind of discrimination or harassment and he's created cultures about quality and inclusion. all of this signs there's going to be increasing attacks on mike bloomberg as he continues to do well in the polls and his rivals get nervous. a new poll of likely democratic voters in florida shows mike bloomberg as the front runner there. he leads with more than 27% ahead of biden's 25%. i should adhere, there was no data at all for tulsi gabbard.
but mike bloomberg's support comes with the growing scrutiny and a growing debate over his record with minorities. >> there's been a lot of tweets about op po dumps about stop and frisk. >> i'm not schilling for mayor bloomberg -- >> you kind of are. >> -- but i think there's another side of the story. >> you like him. >> i like him fine, i like biden too. i'll vote for anybody, i told you. >> i think his record, though, joy is problematic. >> a lot of people do. >> not only does he have the stop and frisk, he has the redlining issue. >> it had to do with the banks. >> he made it racial, he did. >> you're going to have to explain those comments. >> he's on tape. i have to tell you, someone -- >> did he say the housing crisis was redlining? >> yes. bottom line for me is someone that, you know, i guess stands by this stop and frisk policy just months before he then
denounces it because he's running for presidency of the united states, i don't find that genuine. >> joining me now kenosha grant and daniel moody mills. welcome to you both. ladies, danielle i'm going to start with you here. what's your reaction to this and the arguments you've heard for and against mike bloomberg? >> i think mike bloomberg has a lot of explaining to do. it's interesting timing to come out and say you're against stop and frisk or you had no idea it was going to hurt black and latino communities in the way it did. mike bloomberg is a smart man. the idea we're supposed to believe he didn't know the ramifications of stopping and frisking black and latino men in new york city was going to be a problem or that the traumatic effects of doing that was going to be a problem is suspicious. that he comes out a few months before he decides to run for president and then admit to this. the reality is he's caused a lot
of damage within the black community and the latino community in new york city and he should talk about that and more about the policies that he wants to bring to the nation to people of color that have been margin alized and talk about honestly the policies he celebrated and uplifted here in new york city. >> what do you think about someone like new york congressman gregory meeks, he said there's more to this redlining. it's not so easy to look at it this like this, that's part of the reason he endorsed him. >> that to me is the problem. it is easy. redlining is something that was done in order to keep communities of color down. you're giving tax abatements to one group while pushing another group out. mike bloomberg did that in new york. he needs to admit to that and say it was a bad idea but this is why i did it and this is what i'm going to do now. for us to believe it wasn't
problematic and just forget about it, it's not going to happen. >> here's how bloomberg respo responded this week particularly to his language on stop and frisk. >> i defended it looking back for too long because i doesn't understand the unintended pain it was causing to young black and brown families and their kids. i should have acted sooner and faster to stop it, i didn't and for that i apologize. i know i can't change history but what i can do is learn from my mistakes. >> do you get the impression he thinks it's enough to say the words i apologize? do you think it's being taken as sincere? >> i think he believes it's enough to say he's sorry. i don't think it's being taken as sincere. the folks i've talked to, the folks i know are tired of sorry. tired of casting votes for the lesser of two evils and everybody wants a president they can be proud of. i think they're setting up for a
position he's not that person. it's not enough to say stop and frisk was bad, i didn't recognize what i was doing, when you had lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit and complaint after complaint telling you exactly that people were feeling like they were caged in their communities, experiencing trauma. he has to say, listen, i recognize there were racist undertones driving the way i used this policy. i recognize there are racist undertones driving the way i think about the bank failures of 2008 and the way i think about redlining and i'm sorry. i'm going to make it the case i have people around me who check me when i slip into those things when it happens again. i don't think it's enough to say just i'm sorry. >> something that's interesting, which is "the washington journal" pointing out that bloomberg has a complicated history with president obama. bloomberg did not endorse obama in 2008 and waited days before
the 2012 election before endorsing him. the current bloomberg ads on this topic, do you see them as disingwen jous? >> i think they are. i was in florida last weekend when i first saw the ads and was kind of struck by them. did barack obama give his permission to have his image and likeness and voice in these ads? for some people they don't recognize the space between using the media clips and having obama's support. i think these kind of ads are problematic, especially given the complicated history between the two you just talked about. >> what's interesting, the quinnipiac poll, shows that bloomberg is leading democrats in a head-to-head matchup with the president and a number of african-american surrogates have defended him in spite of his language and comments, are african-american voters in general willing to look past
bloomberg's record in greater interest of removing trump from the white house? >> black voters are pragmatic. we understand what happens when you have a donald trump in the white house. we know what it's going to do to our communities. we know what it's going to do to our schools, to our health care. we see the danger and threat that is donald trump. looking at the field you're thinking to yourself, who has the money, the resources that will be able to stop him and right now bloomberg has spent over $300 million on ads across the country. he can spent $2 billion on this election and he'll still be worth 59 billion. so when you think about how you can go toe-to-toe and spin the media in the way that you need to, bloomberg has the resources to do that, i think that's what folks are looking at. >> 100% there. at the end of the day, do you think it's going to come down to a comparison of bloomberg's record with that of president trump when the african-american community is considered there? are these records even
comparable? >> so i think that it's going to be necessary to compare them. i think that he is -- bloomberg is making it the case that he can defeat donald trump, that's the language we've been hearing from the campaigns. i think black voters will be worried about who can beat trump. i think that bloomberg has a problem for trump and that is the democratic rivals will be calling him to the carpet and may draw comparisons between bloomberg with lots of information and choosing not to use it being the same as donald trump who says he's a billionaire and chooses not to use some information in instances. i think bloomberg has a hard way to go with his rivals before he gets to trump. in the comparison between the two, danielle is right, it's the case that black people make the pragmatic choice. >> thank you for vaguing i weig
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attorney general william barr is under new scrutiny today over cases linked to the president's former allies. "the washington post" reports barr's relationship with the president is facing its gravest scrutiny yet. i know it's been a turbulent week for barr and the doj, walk us through the highlights of what the president is saying, monica? >> reporter: tumultuous to say the least, alex. this does span an entire week. we saw on monday all of the back and forth over the potential sentence of roger stone. as that ramped up really to a
cl climax with attorney general william barr's comments on thursday calling out to the president to not tweet so much and provide a background commentary to all these department of justice cases. and then we saw yesterday two notable developments and we haven't heard as much of a reaction from the president. but i want to read you a tweet related to former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe after. the
president tweeting what seems to be basically a fox news quote on this saying ig report on andrew mccabe misled investigators over role in news media disclosure lacked candor [ lied ] on four separate occasion occas authorized media leaks to advance personal interests.
that's all we heard from the president on that particular case. he's in florida for the holiday weekend and he's currently at his golf resort so there could be more tweeting to come, the afternoon is young. we haven't heard him weigh in either on the case of former national security advisor michael flynn, who, of course, pled guilty to lying to the fbi, but then withdrew that guilty plea so as we await his sentencing, that's another wrench in all of this, but we haven't heard directly from the president about his thought osthe latest developments alex. >> monica, thank you so much. joining me now pennsylvania representative madeline dean, a democratic member of the house judiciary committee. i know you're in sunny l.a. where it's a beautiful day there. i want to play for you, ma'am, what attorney general william barr had to say in his interview after the president tweeted about roger stone's sentencing guidelines from doj prosecutors. here's that. >> i'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody. i said whether it's congress,
the newspaper, editorial boards or the president. i'm going to do what i think is right. and, you know, the -- i think the -- i cannot do my job here at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me. >> do you think this gives william barr any cover for the doj's decision to go against the recommendations of its prosecutors in this case? >> good morning or good afternoon from los angeles. i'm glad to be with you on this president's day weekend. and i want to start with the premises that what we have witnessed over the course of the last three years with this president is someone who has an utter disregard for the constitution for the rule of law, for the independence of the department of justice. mr. barr's comments i think are thin cover for the work that he has done on behalf of the president. it was just hours after the president complained of roger
stone's sentencing recommendation that this attorney general, who is supposed to be independent of the president, went to the prosecutors and said reduce that sentencing recommendation. and what we saw were four career prosecutors quit in protest. that's a dramatic statement about the lack of independence of mr. barr, mr. barr's credibility is in tatters. >> those four quitting the case, one even quitting the doj and leaving altogether. did you ever question the initial recommendation of seven to nine years for roger stone? >> no for the very reason i don't think the president should be questioning it. it's none of my business. it is not my job. we do need an independent judiciary, we need an independent department of justice, and people who really took a look at the case and the judge who knows that this gentleman is convicted, it'll be up to the judge, i have no recommendation on sentencing. >> as the president faces accusations of interfering in
the roger stone case, i know your colleague on judiciary, eric swalwell had this to say. >> might you impeach him over this? >> we're not going to take our options off the table but we're not going to let him just torch this democracy because he thinks he's been let off once and we're not going to do something about it. >> are all options, including impeachment, still on the table? >> i have no interest in speculating on a future impeachment. we do know that mr. barr is coming before our committee, the judiciary committee on march 31st. when we can ask important oversight questions about his independence and the independence of the department of justice. what i want to talk about is the fact that this president has used the levers of power for his own personal political gain we're just seeing more of it. yet what we did in the house is we have this president forever impeached. you know what i really want to talk about is some of the things we've done. we've been legislating all the
while. very proud to tell you we took a vote yesterday to get the equal rights amendment one step closer to being inshrined in our constitution. i'm out here visiting my not quite 4 month old granddaughter and i told her her grandmother was part of the vote to make sure women are equal to men under our constitution. we're looking at infrastructure. we have passed hr-3, prescription drug cost containment and cost controls. we passed hr-1 to protect our elections. look at this president and this senate who's doing nothing with the important legislation this house has been passing all session long. >> i applaud you on the era, infrastructure, prescription drugs, all excellent things to be getting moving forward. but a question would be on the doj's role, how this has unfolded in the politically charged cases this week. do you think it's a reflection
of donald trump feeling like he's unbridled, he has unbridled power after the impeachment acquittal? >> i think that's part of it, part of the ingredients that's going on, but the president has acted like this all along. he acted like this in business, in his campaign. he believes in moving the levers of power, whatever they happen to be now, it happens to be the levers of the united states government, for his own political and personal gain. and you see he has surrounded himself with people who are on domestic political errands for him, whether it is attorney general barr, ambassador sondland, rudy giuliani, and many, many others. but he is emboldened. he believes, because of the senate's failure to even have a fair trial and then to whitewash and acquit him, covering up his wrong doing, that he is not to be held accountable. i'll tell you what my constituents think. they're tired of the chaos, corruption, tired of waking up every day saying how did the
president abuse his office for his own personal gain. so we'll keep pointing out for the people what is going on. we'll keep legislating. and then it will be up to the people in november. and i believe they'll turn mr. trump away. >> okay. pennsylvania representative madeline dean, thank you. enjoy the trip seeing your granddaughter, it's special. >> thanks for having me. a big test starting today for 2020 candidates but which candidate is poised to pass it?
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turning now to the race for the white house. 82 early voting sites are open across nevada today. in just one week from now, the traditional caucuses will begin in that state. joining me now garrett haake, who's in las vegas for us where senator bernie sanders is today. good to see you, let's get to what sanders is doing, which is leading in the polls there in nevada. how does he keep up the momentum this week into the weekend?
>> reporter: this has been a polling desert for the last month or so, but a new survey does show bernie sanders leading here. when you come to his events it's not hard to see why. other candidates would kill for this kind of crowd, it's one of the youngest, most diverse constituencies i have seen for any candidates i have covered. a young heavy latino state drawing a young latino crowd. the trick is with the voters getting them to show up. betting your campaign on younger voters has been difficult for democrats. barack obama is one to do it successfully on a national level. sanders has the most indepth, the biggest, the most organized campaign infrastructure in this state. that could matter. all of us have the iowa scars remembering how it went here. sanders has the most staff, most offices, most interconnected ground game here to get the folks showing up at 10:30 in the
morning local time for music and a rally to also go immediately to the polls, whether they vote early, starting today. sanders is going to lead a march of the folks down the street to a polling place to try to bank some of the votes right away or any time they show up in the next few days or saturday. the campaign is trying to leave nothing to chance here. while they're focussed on nevada, they're also looking ahead. sanders is going to be flying to super tuesday states, california, colorado, trying to get ahead of the game. it's important to remember while they're caucusing in nevada, there have been more early votes cast in california than the entirety of the new hampshire process. so the sanders campaign is walking and chewing gum at the same time here, focussing on nevada and looking ahead to the super tuesday states where he has the chance to differentiate himself from the rivals. >> you talk about the scars from iowa, i say to the whole caucus
process, buckle up. see you again soon. with me james pendle, political reporter at "the boston globe". the new poll in nevada showing bernie sanders leading with 25%, joe biden with 18, elizabeth warren comes in third with 13. is it safe to presume that bernie sanders has the most momentum going into nevada? >> he has the most energy on the ground here in nevada at the moment but it's important to note this process, particularly in nevada, is unprecedented for nevada, it's a two step process with early voting over four days, that stops, then there's the debate and then we have the actual caucuses and how this whole thing plays out, particularly on the ballot, there's ranked choice voting, which we've done before. if you thought iowa was relatively simple, this process is more complicated. for bernie sanders, as garrett mentioned, they have a lot of
energy, they organized here for well over four years. the most interesting garett said, i'm headed to that event next, is he's leaving the stage and they're marching to an early voting site to get those votes registered. but if they pick bernie sanders in one spot, that ballot will be voided. they have to put him for the first and then their second or third. people are flying by the seat of their pants here. >> a couple questions about the debate, what are the chances that mike bloomberg makes the debate stage and how important is the debate? i think back to new hampshire, the friday night debate before amy klobuchar's voters and support went to her. for her that debate lifted her campaign. >> for her, the only reason she's still in this race is her performance in that debate. i think this debate has a lot of importance particularly on that first question you ask, will
mike bloomberg make it? all of us thought, assumed, he would be in this debate. he needs one more poll showing him with 10%. but the deadline is on tuesday, and that's kind of coming up and he doesn't have that poll yet because there hasn't been the rash of polls coming through. so i think he'll make the debate but we're getting down to the deadline. if he's in it, that changes the whole makeup of this debate stage. >> in addition to the amy klobuchar aspect that you just mentioned with the deep dive you did into why new hampshire went down the way it did, what are your main takeaways? >> on what? >> on new hampshire. >> oh, on new hampshire. look, on the one hand you can say that for two elections in a row, the establishment lost. bernie sanders, of course, won by 22% last time and then obviously put out a win here as well. but obviously the big takeaway here is as long as the moderates cannot figure out who their obvious choice will be, bernie
sanders will continue to be on top with buttigieg performing so well and klobuchar performing so well and underneath that, of course, joe biden. as long as they're swirling around, we saw this happen in 2016 with donald trump when you had four moderates in the same lane and trump leading everywhere else. this process could go long, all the way into june, unless the moderates figure it out. this may be the critical contest that does that. >> okay. we'll see if you're right. i know we'll talk to you again. thank you, james. following the president's example how hundreds of school bullying cases are starting to mirror the words and tweets of our commander in chief. brands. now through february 24th. score extra savings on mattresses from tempurpedic, serta, beautyrest and sealy, starting at just $399! kick back and relax while we do all the heavy lifting. because every single mattress ships free! you don't want to snooze on these deals. shop now through february 24th.
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that's a group of high school students chanting build that wall at a football game in utah back in 2017. this incident is not an isolated ones it turns out. it's one of hundreds of incidents reflecting the president's influence across the nation. "the washington post" finding his name and likeness has been used to harass kids 200 times since 2016. joining me now one of the authors of the story. stunning article, hannah, among the examples in your reporting.
to kindergartens in utah who told a latino boy president trump would send him back to utah. there were teenagers in maine smearing a classmate that wore a hijab. what surprised you most about this and how damaging are instances for kids as they're assaulted like this? >> i think that one of the most surprising things was sort of the regularity with which this has been going on. so -- and again we only were able to examine the publically reported cases. but there have been at least two a week since the start of 2016. i think one of the other things that came out of our reporting is that the damage can last for years in some cases. >> you know, ceel o castro is a student who told you she was attacked because of her
ethnicity. >> kids see what people do and imitate that. if you see the leader of our country doing that and saying hurtful things about other people, kids are going to be like if he can do it, why can't i? >> any comment from the white house on this? what about the first lady and her be best campaign? anything? >> you know, we did reach out to the white house for comment and they did note the be best initiative is ongoing. we made sure to give them a chance to review the story, but i think the takeaway here is more that this just has been ongoing for so long. i think it's not just the white house. a lot of school districts are not specifically tracking this, so -- >> so what can a school district do? >> so that's another thing that we unearthed in some of our reporting. as i was saying, most school districts having been tracking this, but administrators across the country are becoming aware
of this. so some groups found ways to deal with this. there's a class in maryland that teaches students to engage in civil discourse. and others may be using student led groups. so people are figuring out this is a phenomenon and developing ways to deal with it. >> it's a big article, dense, it's loaded with extraordinary information and stats. well done. thank you. >> thank you for having me. where food meets politics. the new series exploring cuisine on major social issues. i'm going to talk to the host, andrew zimmer about it next. so you only pay for what you need. i love you! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? memory support brand.
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times we've lived in in my lifetime. we've also increasingly with every week it seems becoming more and more polarized, and these issues that we tackle from addiction to immigration, from clima climate crisis to voters' rights are not left or right issues. they're not red or blue issues. these are really forward issues, and these are not problems for america to solve. these are opportunities for america to seize, and i truly believe that human beings hear things differently. some people are moved by an interview by someone on your show. others need to be shown and led by the hand out into fields in the salinas valley in california, the salad bowl of america to see firsthand that every single plate of food, every ingredient, every morsel, every bite is touched by the hand of an immigrant, whether it's picked, packed, fished, cut in a meat factory. everything that winds up on your plate is touched by an immigrant. and these are people that we're
pushing into the shadows, we're demonizing, and most importantly from a national wellness standpoint, if we take these people out of the food system, the food system collapses, right? >> that affects all of us, hello. >> everyone, everyone. >> yeah. >> and everyone we spoke to from texas to florida, from maine to california, every state in between, tennessee, it does not matter, every farm manager and plant manager has said we need more help. we need more workers. our country has become hungrier. we have 25% of americans are food insecure. we're wasting 40% of food before it hits the retailer. immigrants help solve that problem. you heard in the clip that they're tilling under strawberries because they don't have enough workers in their fields. that's staggering when there are children going hungry in america. >> absolutely. something i mentioned to you during the commercial is i read or heard a story about climate change and the fact that if humans relied on a more
plant-based diet that that would help at least reduce significantly climate change. i decided 2020 i'm not going to eat any meat and doing my part. am i right or wrong here? >> you are right. and it reduces it significantly, and everybody always talks about the methane issue from giant factory farms. that's just a small piece of it. you have to remember the agricultural runoff that goes into our rivers with all kinds of different things that are bad for our water system goes into that water table and flows downstream. it's why there's so much silt in the mississippi river. it's why we have these aggressive algae blooms down in the gulf and in other estuaries where the runoff contains things that people are sprinkling onto their lawns and gardens. these giant factory farms are the biggest. if we were able to change our diet and be a little bit more plant based, it would have a major impact not only on our economy because it would change the way we view food that's created for humans, which right
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we have rounded the top of the hour, which means i'm so out of time. over to you my friend david guerra, take it away. >> thanks very much. great to see you on this saturday. i'm david guerra, live at msnbc headquarters in new york. some breaks news this hour, several stories incredibly important to the 2020 campaign. first in nevada, gldemocrats ha their first opportunity to pick candidates as early voting in the state caucus is underway. the candidates are rallying crowds across the state. just a reminder here, this is a process that i