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sergeant first class leroy arthur petry for his actions in afghanistan. he is the second living recipient of this award since the vietnam war. seven others have been awarded the medal of honor posthumously for their heroic actions in iraq and afghanistan. he is an elite army ranger. he lost his right arm below the elbow in may of 2008 when a grenade exploded when he threw it away saving the lives of two fellow soldiers. sergeant petry is 31 years old from santa fe, new mexico, and he and his wife ashley have four children. he will be the 85th recipient of the medal of honor. nbc news military analysis and retired general henry jacobs, and always a pleasure to have you with us on these ceremonies and the last time we watched this ceremony was salvatore
giun giunta, and you know the emotions that come with it. you know what this sergeant did to save lives. it was a summer and surrounded and he put his life on the line and that is what the soldiers do everyday. >> his unit was doing the most dangerous of dangers which is to conduct a daylight raid. he was shot initially in both legs and subsequently wounded by another hand grenade and lost his arm as he was throwing another hand grenade all of the while saving the lives of his fellow soldiers. some of them will be in the east room of the white house for this ceremony. >> i understand that sergeant j giunta will be there as well. >> yes, and some of my vintage around washington, d.c. and when you talk to the people from the unit, you will get teary eyed because they say that man saved my life and make you
choke up. >> nbc nightly anchor brian williams spoke to sergeant petry and we have a little bit of brian's interview with him. let's play it. >> what would you like civilians in a -- you know civilians in the country who don't serve in the military, and a lot of them have it pretty good, and what would you like them to know about the modern military? >> well, i had something i had come up with that i had not heard it before, so i hope it is something i had not heard before. >> we will give you credit anyway. >> it is that i look at all of the military and all of the fallen heroes who gave the ultimate sacrifice, i just want the public to know that, hey, take your time, honor those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, but embrace those who are serving today. they need your support, and it is amazing what they can do with that. >> it is so interesting, colonel, that brian williams asked this question, because part of this ceremony many
believe it does uplift us and reminds us of the sacrifice and why it is so important to give this honor to a living soldier, a living member of the military, and that is part of the big debate regarding this honor that is given out. >> well, there are plenty of acts of valor all of the time. everyday our troops are in contact with the enemy, we are having troops killed and wounded everyday, and there are valorous acts that are performed by our soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines all of the time. it is only some of them that get recognized but if you ask any recipient of the medal of honor or indeed any recipient, he will tell you he is not wearing it for himself, but those who can't. >> and this is only the second living recipient since the vietnam war, and we know many hundreds of thousands of troops out there who have served multiple troops like sergeant petry who served in iraq and afghanistan and who you would like to have them receive this honor while they are there and
hear the words of honor said from the president and thosexd attendance there. >> well, he said it eloquently in that it is important that we have a -- see it and hear it, because otherwise we don't feel important to it. and it is important to recognize these people while they are alive. the department of defense goes back all of the time back to the record, and takes a look at the witness statements and so on, and occasionally, and has over the last 100 years or so, awarded medals of honor to those who have performed valiantly but who did not receive the medal after they go back to look at the record, but it is important that there are people among us who represent those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. >> we want you to sfik aroutick because the ceremony is set to begin at 2:15, and we will carry that live. thank you jack jacobs. and after the ceremony president obama will meet with top congressional leaders of both parties, and they will try
again to reach a deal of the federal deficit, and it is the third session if you are counting of the talks in as many days, but the indications are that the talks have hit a brick wall with the republicans refusing to allow any tax hikes. all of this with the august 2nd deadline approaching for the u.s. to begin to defaulting on the debt. >> this debt limit increase is his problem, and i think it is time for him to lead by putting his plan on the table, and something that the congress can pass. >> in my view the president has presented us with three choices -- smoke and mirrors, tax hikes, or default. republicans choose none of the above. >> meantime, democrats oppose cuts to entitlement programs that president obama has put on the table. >> today, the democratic women of congress have come together to send a very clear message. we must protect medicare and social security.
we will not support cuts. >> and joining me now is ryan graham, washington correspondent for the "huffington post," and we are waiting for plan c here from mitch mcconnell, because as you heard the options above are none of the above they choose at this point. >> well, he is going to lie out a creative way out of this for senate and house republicans. they have backed themselves into a corner, and this is the way out. they will say that the president can request a debt ceiling raise, and he can do it three times between now and the election for roughly $700 billion each time to get you to the $2. -- some million. and for that to pass he has to override with 2/3 vote. that is not going to happen. so that means that the president could unilaterally raise the
debt ceiling though congress would be still nominally involved, and the republicans thinks that puts the political o onus on the white house, but for the beneficiaries of social security and others, that means no cuts. >> is this plan c likely that the white house will accept? >> well, something has to give. >> yes. >> like mcconnell said, smoke and mirrors, tax increases or defau default or something else. there has to be something else. and so, this is the republicans first offer of a something else. and you know, there are all sorts of other things that they could look at doing. you know, as we have talked about before, they could use, they could assert 14th amendment authority and say that the debt ceiling is unconstitutional and i'm instructing the treasury secretary to borrow more funds in order that we do not default. now, he would have to do that quickly, because you are to get the bond offering going. >> and the white house is not interested in that option, ryan?
>> well, treasury department says it has no enplanes on doing that. >> but the president was asked about it at the news conference as well at the end of last week, and he expressed maybe not in strong terms burk he expressed no interest in that. >> no, he didn't bat it down though. and what he is interested in today is much different than what he was interested a couple of days before you hit the actual debt ceiling. when you are right up against the crisis, then all of the sudden, you are looking at these things more favorably. >> and then the thing is speaking of the time line here, you have ryan, as you well know, and members of the tea party caucus who are today saying that the date of august 2nd is some kind of hocus pocus and it is not a real date, but an attempt to put fear into the public, and thus, they will pressure members of congress into some kind of deal to get done here? >> well, they are delusional. they think that the treasury is somehow nimble enough to take the checks that come in on august 2nd and sort through the checks and cash those checks and then find all of the interest
and other obligations that are coming due and choose which ones to pay. all of the meanwhile, choosing other things not to pay which is unconstitutional and that is the same as a line item veto and no way that treasury when it does not have money to use the small amount of money to come in to pay the bigger amounts of debts that it has. and you know, they are obviously not helpful to the white house saying that. and that is certainly they are right. that is a good negotiating posture to pretend that this is meaningless. >> and we will see or hear from mitch mcconnell very soon on the plan c possibly and hear more details from the republicans on it. thank you very much, ryan. greatly appreciate it. and media mogul rupert murdoch and his son have been summoned to appear before the uk parliamentary committee after the tabloid "news of the world" ends, and also today, gordon brown is accusing the newspaper to employ criminals about
private information about his son's health and private finances. stephanie gosk is here with new details. so every year, this is ramping up. many thought it would end sunday with the "news of the world" shutting down, but that is not the case, stephanie. >> no, tamron. there are new allegations appearing in "the new york times" that actually "news of the world" reporters used scotland yard police officials to ping people they were following or were interested in. that means they used actual cell phone towers to locate some of the celebrities or politicians that they wanted to follow. these are incredibly incriminating allegations that just go to show how wide the scope of this is, and how high up it goes within scotland yard and you mentioned today that the scotland yard investigators were in a hearing in parliament today facing tough questions from the members of parliament over their accusations that they turned a
blind eye to what "news of the world" was doing and police officers were accepting payments of bits of information and on top of that you have prime minister gordon brown in an emotional interview with the bbc expressing his anger in the tactics of the newspapers owned by rupert murdoch were engaged in criminal activities and hired known criminals to get very personal information from him. >> and also, you have got -- this story is more incredible by the moment, but the former pop star and still is, stephanie, george michael went on his tw twitter account and said that the british authorities have requested to interview him about comments he made regarding rebecca brooks a woman at the center of this who is still protected by rupert murdoch and his company. >> george michael has been interestingly very involved in the scandal from the beginning on twitter. one of the things that he said is that he has had conversations with rebecca brooks where she has said that almost all of the
information they use in the newspapers comes from the police. he later went on in another tweet and said that the information that the police get that they are often given money for the information and kind of quid pro quo and that it is pervasive and shows that scotland yard has an expansive investigation, and they are even willing to call in george michael for this investigation. >> thank you, stephanie gosk. i want to go back into the white house where leroy arthur petry is about to receive the medal of honor by president obama, and he is the second living soldier to receive that honor. with me with the coverage is colonel jack jacobs who is standing by, and jack, as we wait for the president to enter the room, we see there as you pointed out a number of recipients of this wonderful n
honor that we are able to witness, and we were together the last time we watched this president bestow this honor upon salvatore giunta, and here is another soldier who put his life on the line on a hot summer day, and he and his fellow soldiers were fighting the taliban and as he was fighting, he saw a live grenade and picked it up and throw it out of the range, and blew up and he lost his hand. >> and he had been wounded by a previous hand grenade and taken several of the comrades to safety. you asked the question earlier about how come not more medals of honor in the conflict, series of conflicts in which it has been difficult fighting, and part of the answer is that any kind of award is a subjective evaluation and has to go through the chain of the command, and everybody in the world looks at it. and in and in the end, the
selection is made in such a way that it makes the recipient realize that he is representing all of those people who have not been recognized. >> it is interesting that one of the army ranger captains who was with him said, quote, he is not the kind of person who likes this kind of attention, but he did something really special that day. i mean, when you think about really special that day, that is usually, you know, helping somebody across the street, but this is putting your life on the line even though you sign up for it and it is a choice to go there, it is still an incredible sign of heroism when in the middle of your own injury as you pointed out, he can think of the lives of others and take that action to save other lives. >> yes, so close to these people in combat and so close to the people that you are with that you feel like you are one. it is not them, it is all of you together. and that if somebody else had the opportunity to do it, they would do it, but you were the only one who could do it.
>> and this ceremony is interesting, because we have heard of his humor and he has a prosthetic hand, but he continues to serve in the elite unit which is incredible to me after such an injury with the resources of the troops and treated on the battlefield unimaginable that were in the vietnam war and the civil war, and these young men were not coming home, and they were dying on the battlefield, and now they have returned here and in his case, now able to go back to the job. >> two things about that, if a troop is willing to get to a medical facility of any kind has a 98% chance of survival which is different. and used to, they would throw you out of the army if you were marginally wounded. now troops with prosthetic devices are anxious to serve and want to get back to the units to serve with comrades and they let them do it or perform some other task in the army in all of the services. don't forget we have an all
volunteer service, and no draft or national service, and as a result, these are experienced people whose skills and motivation we do not want to lose. >> sergeant petry served two tours in iraq and six in afghanistan. six tours, colonel. >> well, he is a sergeant first class and e-7 and three ranks below d highest en listed grade and there is a scarcity of people with his grade and maturity, and you bet, we keep sending them back time and time again, because we don't have a lot of the people to send. >> he is only 31 years old, and it is incredible, because we hear the stories. he is from santa fe, new mexico, and decided to join the army after almost flunking out of high school, did not, but almost, and he has ascended to the great ranks in the army and as you pointed out one of the best and the brightest. we talk, you and i about the military a lot, and my dad in the military for 31 years and people have opinions of the wars and what is happening there, but
when you see how the young men and women leave the home in the young ages and give their lives and their families make great sacrifices for them to fight for the country, and in too many cases they are coming back injured, but we are able to have these ceremonies like this, and as you pointed out not just for sergeant petry which his team says, but it is about all of them. >> and the staff sergeant giunta said, i am elevated to the highest ranks, but i was just doing my job. i'm an average guying do what i thought i was trained to do. before i came into the army i was making sandwiches, and the interesting thing is that the people who serve and serve both the nation and the fellow soldiers are just average people elevated by events to do extraordinary things when times were tough. anybody in a similar situation would have done it and you ask any recipient, and they would have done it. >> well, eight people have been awarded the medal of honor since
the start of iraq and afghanistan, but most of them have received it posthumously. let's listen in. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the the united states accompanieded by medal of honor recipient sergeant first class leroy petry. ♪ "hail to the chief"
let us pray. almighty and living god, you have given us this good land and its founding truth for our american heritage. we ask your presence as we gather to recognize a man who has gone above and beyond the call of duty in the defense of that heritage. in your providence, first class leroy petry in valor and sacrifice saved the lives of his men and follow rangers in that trying day in afghanistan. by your grace, we know that he continues the live today according to those same values. out of such heroes you have woven the tapestry of the great
nation, and likewise, we honor those of valor and sacrifice everyday for you the continue to weave the tapestry of america. we celebrate with his wife, mother, and father and grandparents and his brothers and children. also remember his grandfather, leo, who celebrates with us today in a special way. we are grateful for all of the people and events that you have used to mold this man who stands before us this day. we are grateful, too, for the rangers, soldiers, sailors, airmen and coast guardsmen who have given their lives in this long conflict, and give your strength to the families and loved ones and to the loved ones of the lost comrades and may your grace with us and upon the national leadership and grant to all of us in the military and especially those who serve today in harm's way the strength and wisdom that come only from you. you be honored in every endeavor to which you call america and
her citizens, and finally, your favor be upon sergeant first class petry and his family. calvin coolidge once wrote those who forget their defenders will be themselves forgotten and that we as a nation hold him and like him have given so much in our common defense never be forgotten. this come before you in this holy day in your holy name, amen. >> thank you, chaplain rutherford. please be seated. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to the white house as we present our nation's highest military declaration, the medal of honor to an extraordinary american soldier, sergeant first class leroy petry. this is a historic occasion. last fall i was privileged to
present the medal of honor to staff sergeant salvatore giunta for his heroism in afghanistan, and sal joins us today. good to see you. today is only the second time during the wars in afghanistan and iraq, indeed only the second time since vietnam that a recipient of the medal of honor from an ongoing conflict has been able to receive this medal in person. having just spent some time with leroy, his lovely wife, ashley, their wonderful children in the oval office and then had a chance to see the entire petry family here, i have to say that this could not be happening to a nicer guy or a more inspiring family. leroy, the medal of honor reflects the deepest gratitude of our entire nation. so we are joined by members of
congress, vice president biden, leaders from across my administration, including deputy secretary of defense bill lynn, and leaders from across our armed forces including the vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general jim haas cartright, and army secretary john mccue and army general chief of staff artie dempsey. we are honored to welcome more than 100 of leroy's families and friends and many from his home state of new mexico, as well as his fellow rangers from the legendary tedelta company 75 ranger regimen, and as always, we are honored by the presence of the medal of honor recipients society. today, we honor a singular act
of gallantry as we near the 10th anniversary of the attacks that thrust our nation into war, this is also an occasion to pay tribute to a soldier and a generation that has borne the burden of our security during a hard decade of sacrifice. i want to take you back to the circumstances that led to this day. it is may 26th, 2008, in the remote east of afghanistan near the mountainous border of pakistan. helicopters carrying dozens of elite army rangers race over the rugged landscape. their target is an insurgent compound. the mission is high-risk. it is broad daylight. the insurgents are heavily armed. but it is considered a risk worth taking because if intelligence indicates that a top al qaeda commander is in that compound.
soon the helicopters touch down and our rangers immediately come under fire. within minutes leroy, then a staff sergeant, and another soldier are pushing ahead into a courtyard surrounded by high mud walls. that's when the enemy opens up with the ak-47s. leroy is hit in both legs. he is bleeding badly. but he summons the strength to lead the other ranger to cover behind a chicken coop. he radios for support. he hurls a grenade at the enemy giving cover to a third ranger who rushes to their aid. an enemy grenade explodes nearby wounding leroy's two comrades. then, a second grenade lands, this time only a few feet away. every human impulse would tell someone to turn away.
every soldier is trained to seek cover. that is what sergeant leroy petry could have done, but instead, this wounded ranger, this 28-year-old man with his whole life ahead of him, this husband and father of four, did something extraordinary. he lunged forward, toward the live grenade. he picked it up. cocked his arm to throw it back, and what compels such courage? what leads a person to risk everything so that others might live? and for answers, we don't need to look far. the roots of leroy's valor are all around us. you see it in the sense of duty instilled by his family who joins us today, and his father, larry, his mother, lorella, and
his four brothers. growing up, the walls of the home were hung with pictures of grandfathers an uncd uncles in uniform leading young leroy to believe that is my calling, too. we see it in the compassion of a high school student who overcome his own struggles to mentor younger kids to give them a chance, and we see it in the loyalty of a army ranger to live by a creed, never shall i fail my comrades or as leroy puts it, these are my brothers. family, just like my wife and kids, and you protect the ones you love. that is what he did that day when he picked up that grenade and threw it back just as it explod exploded. with that selfless act leroy saved his two ranger brother, and they are with us today.
this valor came with a price. the force of the blast took leroy's right hand. shrapnel riddled his body. one of his teammates said, i had never seen anybody hurt so bad. even his fellow rangers were amazed at what leroy did next despite his grievous wounds, he remained calm. he actually put on his own tourniquet, and he continued to lead, directing his team, giving orders, and even telling the medics how to treat his wounds. when the fight was won, as he lay in a stretcher being loaded on to a helicopter, one of his teammates came up to shake the hand that leroy had left. that was the first time i shook the hand of someone who i considered to be a true american hero, that ranger said. leroy petry showed that true
heroes do exist, and they are closer than you think. that ranger is right. our heroes are all around us, and they are the millions of americans who have served these past ten years and many like leroy deployed tour after tour, year after year. on the morning of 9/11, leroy was being trained as a ranger and a as they got the terrible news, he told the class, keep training, because you might be going to war. within a month, leroy was in the first of zseven deployments sine 9/11. the afghan community is now free from the terror of the taliban and the afghan forces taking more responsibility for their security, and he carries with him the memories of americans who have made the ultimate sacrifice to make this progress possible.
earlier in the oval office, leroy gave me the extraordinary privilege of showing me the small plaque that is bolted to his prosthetic arm. on it are the names of the fallen rangers from the 75th regimen, and they are quite literally part of him. just as they will always be part of america. one of those names is of the ranger who did not come back from the raid that day. specialist christopher gathorkal. his brother and mother and sister are here with us today, and i ask that they stand briefly so that we can show our gratitude for their family's profound sacrifice. [ applause ]
>> our heroes are all around us. they are the force behind the force. military spouses like ashley who during leroy's many deployments, during missed birth davis a ed holidays has kept this army family strong and we are grateful to you, ashley, and all of the military spouses who are here. [ applause ] there are military children like britney and austin and reagan
and 7-year-old landon who at the end of a long day is there to gently rub his dad's injured arm, and so i want to make sure that we acknowledge these extraordinary children as well. [ applause ] our heroes are all around us, and there are men and women in uniform who through a decade of war have earned their place among the greatest of generations. during world war ii on d-day, it was the rangers of d-company who famously scaled the cliffs of upo ponduak, and then after 9/11, we learned that the rangers led the way as they were the first boots on the ground in afghanistan and
deployed continuously ever since. today, we can see our progress in the war and our success against al qaeda, and we are beginning to bring our troops home from afghanistan this summer. understand, there will be more fighting and more sacrifices in the months and years to come, but i am confident that because of the service of men and women like leroy we will be able to say of this generation what president reagan once said of those rangers who took the cliffs on d-day, these are the heros who helped end a war. i would ask all of our rangers, members of the 9/11 generation to stand and accept the thanks of a grateful nation.
>> finally the service of leroy petry speaks to the very esness is of america. -- essence of america, that spirit that says no matter how hard the journey, no matter how steep the climb, we don't quit, we don't give up. leroy lost a hand and those wounds in his leg sometimes make it hard for him to stand, but he pushes on, and even joined his fellow rangers for a grueling 20-mile march. he could have focused only on his own recovery, but today, he helps care for other wounded warriors, inspiring them with his example. given his wounds, he could have retired from the army with honor, but he chose to reenlist inindefinitely.
this past year, he returned to afghanistan. his eighth deployment. back with his ranger brothers on another mission to keep our country safe. this is the stuff of which heroes are made. this is the strength, the devotion, that makes our troops the pride of every american, and this is the reason that like a soldier named leroy petry, america does not simply endure, but we merge from the controversies with our eyes fixed on the future. our heroes are all around us and as we prepare for the reading of the citation, please join me in saluting one of those heroes leroy petry.
>> the president of the united states of america authorized by act of congress, march 3rd, 1863, has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to staff sergeant leroy a. petry, united states army. he distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity at a risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty in the vicinity of a province in afrz on may 26th, 2008. as a weapons squad leader with delta company, 75th ranger regimen, staff sergeant petry went to clear a house which contained highly coarmed combatants. he and his company were injured
from automatic fire from enemy fire. still wounded from enemy fire in both legs, staff sergeant petry reported the situation and engaged the enemy with a hand grenade and providing suppression as another ranger went to the aid. and the enemy responded by moving closer and throwing more grenades. the first grenade explosion knocked two of his fellow shoulders to the ground, and blast eed them with shrapnel. sergeant petry deliberately and selflessly picked up the grenade and in an effort to clear the immediate threat threw the grenade away from his fellow rangers. as he released it, it amputated his hand at the wrist and further injuring him with more shrapnel wounds.
although picking up the live grenade and wounding staff sergeant petry, the act undeniably saved his fellow rangers from being harmed or killed. he had the presence of mind to place a tourniquet on his right wrist before reporting the situation by radio to coordinate support for himself and his fellow rangers. his extraordinary heroism and duty are in to keeping of the highest measures of the military, and the 75th ranger regimen and the united states army.
celebrate the commitment to our nation, sergeant first class petry has modeled. give us strength this day and keep us all in your care, and this we pray in your holy name, amen. >> imen. >> thank you all for attending this extraordinary ceremony for this extraordinary hero. i hope that all of you will join the family. there is going to be an outstanding reception. i hear that the food is pretty good around here. and i know that the music is great, because we have got my own marine band playing. so thank you so much for your attendance, and once again, congratulations, leroy, for your extraordinary devotion to our country. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. big conclusion to what the
president referred to as an extraordinary ceremony for an extraordinary soldier. with me is colonel jack jacobs and this is the 150th anniversary of the medal of honor. >> yes, in the abraham lincoln presidency, there was no medal of honor, and president lincoln devised it which was the highest award for valor, and this year, the mint is minting a silver coin and a solid gold coin in commemoration of the 150th anniversary. >> we are watching other recipients like yourself greet sergeant petry following this beautiful ceremony that we witnessed. >> he is among the younger guys, because giunta is 737 and he is 35, and the next guy is 72. there were 400 living recipient, and today, there are only 85. >> thank you for joining me yet
a again. >> my pleasure, tamron. >> this ceremony means so much for those watching and those who serve this country. also, a reminder to night on "night news with brian williams" more on sergeant petry, and we will be back with more on "newsnation." [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. is now honey nut cheerios! yup, america's favorite.
welcome back to "newsnation" and for the first time since the verdict in the casey anthony trial, one of the investigators who interrogated casey has decided it is his time to speak out. detective yuri melich was an investigator in the trial, and his portion of the investigation was played in court when casey told him about the fictional babysitter zenaida. >> are you telling me anything about the story that is untrue or anything that you want to change or divert from what is true? >> no, sir. >> did you cause injury to your daughter, caylee? >> no, sir. >> you are saying that zenaida took your daughter and has not
returned her? >> she is the last person i saw with my daughter, yes. >> and lilia, people are curious why the members of the police department and investigators have decided to speak now, and that is not a usual thing that we see after a verdict? >> well, that is right, tamron. they have spent so many years, and three years already, and so many resources, they all became overnight household names, and the ones that testified in the trial, and now, of course, media, publishers from books and perhaps even movie producers are reaching out to each one of them to tell their stories, and the orange county sheriff's office decided to make this press conference just to announce and give the media an opportunity to ask any questions that we have, and also to tell them that from now on, i will only be the media expert at the orange county sheriff's department who will decide on how they will proceed in terms of the appearances. now, that moment that we just heard, tamron, came from an interrogation that took place on
july 18th, sorry, july 16th when caylee was first reported missing. we heard casey anthony telling lies over lies about where caylee was. and now, this is what led to the charges that casey anthony is right now serving time for, for lying to the police. now, in those tapes we hear casey going on and on about this supposed nanny, zanny the nanny, and we heard in the conference how yuri mall itch felt, and he expressed the feelings of knowing that this was all lies and where would the case be if casey anthony had told the truth from the beginning that the child was dead. let's hear a moment of the press conference. >> she never said it was an accident. that would have been her opportunity. even to this day, i'm still surprised that she just didn't come off of it and she would not tell us the truth, and that is all we were after, and that day, this whole thing could have ended had we known the truth. >> and now, sergeant john allen,
tamron said that the most frustrating part of the case is knowing that caylee was dead from the beginning is the amount of resources that went, and the dollars from the taxpayers that went into finding a missing child, and not only that, but resources that could have been expended and spent in finding other missing children. >> all right. lilia, another interesting day in this casey anthony verdict as these investigators are reacting. thank you very much. and the latest on the deadly heat gripping a large part of the nation straight ahead.
martin bashir next only on msnbc. welcome back to "newsnation." developing news now with president obama and top congressional leaders scheduled to resume debt talks in about an hour. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell just offered what he called a quote last choice option if no deal could be reached. >> i would advocate that we pass legislation giving the president
the authority, the authority to request of us an increase in the debt ceiling that would take us past the end of his term. that is what he has said. he has said that he will not sign a debt creeiling that does not take us past the end of his term. >> and senator mcconnell said that the $4.3 trillion debt ceiling would be raised by $700 billion, and 24 states are now affected by the blistering and deadly heat wave affecting over 90 million people. each of those states along with washington, d.c. are under heat advisories or excessive heat warnings. all but two of the states may see temperatures of 100 degrees or more, and that record heat is already being blamed for at least one death so far, a 54-year-old illinois man was found dead in his trailer after his air conditioner stopped working. carl parker has more from atlanta, and carl, i will ask the question that i guess i have to, when will this end?
when are we seeing a break? >> well, depends where you are. in the northeast, you will get a break in a couple of days, but at love the rest of the country will stay hot indeed. i want to show you the temperatures and where they are right now and the feels-like temperature. because when it is humid, it is hard for your body to cool it off by using sweat and evaporation, and we have an apparent temperature and feels like 108 in st. louis, and 104 is what it feels like in raleigh and also in nashville. these are dangerous temperatures ark and this is why all of the advisories are out today. so, the actual air temperatures are up near 100, and in a lot of cases nashville, 98, knoxville, 98, and 99 in raleigh, and we will watch a boundary drop down through the northeast and the midwest and cool it a little bit for most areas. 80 tomorrow in pittsburgh and 82 in new york city on thursday, and 87 in d.c. and a little bit of a break for parts of the mid south and southeast, but not that much. now, at the same time even while we have a dip in the jet stream
in the northeast and the midwest, we are going to watch it buckle across the middle of the country, and that heat continues to be persistent in the southern plains, and what is going on here is that you have incredibly dry ground, and you know about the terrible drought there, and when the ground is so dry, all of the sun's energy goes back into heating up the air as oppose d to evaporating moisture. so this area of heat is actually going to grow going into the weekend and expand northward up into the northern plains. now, as we look back over the last year, june to june, and we are talking about june 2010 to june 2011, there have been 2700 heat records and 250 cold records, and that is a ratio, tamron, of 11 to 1. back to you. >> wow. all right. carl, thank you. as i mentioned, it has turned deadly already. one person has died as a result of the heat in illinois. a number of cools centers are open across the midwest. that does it for this edition of "newsnation." i'm tamron hall, and i will see
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child. nice. we begin with new questions about michele bachmann's family counseling business and whether they may be trying to straighten out gays and lesbians through a routine of prayer and study. on the campaign trail, bachmann has touted her role as a businesswoman, helping run family counseling centers a and joint venture with her psychologist husband, dr. marcus bachmann and providing the primary source of income for her family after bachmann moved into politics. bachmann and associates have come under fire previously for receiving more than $130,000 from medicaid, a program that michele bachmann has criticized, but now, new disclosures are raising questions about how counselors at the clinic respond to patients seeking help for their sexual orientation. in the past, marcus bachmann has disputed that the clinic has tried to cure or reorient gays and lesbians, but his