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republicans at their special jobs, jobs, jobs legislative session want them to present abstinence as the preferred method. good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show. from new york, the president is fighting tooth and nail to put teachers, police officers and firefighters back to work. mitch mcconnell is playing games on the senate floor.
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republicans are taking obstruction to new heights and tonight we will tell you all about it. we have a programming note you want to stick around for. this is the ed show. let's get to work. >> rick -- >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> the debate is over but the hits keep coming. >> perry did throw up on himself. >> new ads and accusations in the romney perry fight. herod cook with give us his scoreboard. in ohio, dozens of exotic animals are dead and governor john kasich is feeling some heat. >> governor, a lot 0 of people are blaming your administration for the situation in zanesville. >> we will show you the governor's response. and on the 99% movement, congressman allen west thinks he knows better than martin luther king's family. >> martin luther king would not have backed these kind of protesters. good evening, folks. thank you for watching. good to have you with us. senate republicans will get
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another chance to prove to the american people they actually care about jobs. senate majority leader harry reid plans to make republicans vote on a bill to fund teachers, police officers, firefighters, before the end of this week. now, minority leader mitch mcconnell is warning harry not to do it. >> they are actually designing legislation to fail on the other side so they will have someone with else to blame for the economy 13 months from now. >> give us a break, mcconnell. mcconnell is whining about the democrats putting a measly -- get this, a .5% tax on people making over a million dollars and above to pay for the bill. the first million dollars if you are in that category you are not going to get taxed at all. the first dollar past a million it is .5%. mitch is bent out of shape because harry reid said republicans want the economy to fail. >> my friend, the majority leader is out there telling republicans are rooting for the economy to fail.
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nothing could be further from the truth. look, if republicans wanted the economy to fail, we'd all line up behind the president's economic policies rather than opposing them because they haven't solved the jobs crisis. we have have been there and done that. the president got everything he wanted the first two years he was in office. >> the gentleman from kentucky is completely wrong. he faced more filibusters in the first two years than any other president has. it was a record number. a few times president obama did get something through the senate it saved a million jobs in the automobile industry and prevented another great depression. the president's jobs bill will put 2 million americans back to work and mcconnell refuses to give the white house a win. it's all about winning, politically. the minority leader wants president obama to park the bus
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and stop campaigning? >> it's completely preposterous at a time when 14 million americans are looking for a job in this country for the president to be riding around on a bus saying we should raise taxes. think about that. we have 14 million people out of work, and two self identified conservatives for every liberal in this country and the president is out there doing his best howard dean impersonation. >> you know, mcconnell might be on to something. the president should incorporate howard dean's 50-state strategy. i'm all about it. president obama should visit every state and show people this number. show americans that 63% of republicans are in favor of providing federal money to state governments to hire teachers and first responders. president obama needs to shout about the republicans ignoring their own voters. the president needs to stay on the bus and follow this road map. >> we're going to california and texas and new york and we're going to south dakota and oregon
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and washington and michigan. and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yea! >> don't forget, ohio, where senate bill 5, the vote coming up on november 8th. mr. president, you need to be there in my opinion. vice president biden isn't shy about campaigning. he hammered the republicans in pennsylvania on tuesday. >> people say we're campaigning. we sure in heck are campaigning. we are campaigning to change this environment. [ applause ] >> change this environment. >> the vice president is president obama's best weapon in the fight for the 99% movement. today the vice president met with members of the international firefighters in the nation's capitol. the vice president clearly laid out the stakes. >> are you going to put 400,000 is schoolteachers back in classrooms? are you going to put 18,000 cops back on the street and 7,000 firefighters back in the fire houses, or are you going to save people with average incomes of 1 million one half of 1% increase
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in tax on every dollar they make over a million? >> biden is spot on. for the last few nights, we have listed the names of the senators who voted against the president's bill. the crawl will stay on the bottom of the screen until the republicans stop obstructing american jobs. grasp again, if i may, what we are talking about here. this is how we would pay for this. piecemealing it out from the american jobs act. let's get these folks covered and in to the economy again for education, of course for firefighters and of course also for police officers. .5% -- a half a percentage point for every dollar you make over $1 million. it's a fraction. if you make $1.1 million, we're talking about a $500 put in to the government for this and the republicans don't want to do it. it's amazing. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. is harry reid right? do americans want the economy to
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fail? our blog is ready for you at ed@msnbc.com. we will bring you results later in the show. joining me is the president of international association of firefighters. harold, great to have you with us tonight. you were with the vice president today. what will the american jobs bill mean to firefighters? to put it in direct context for our viewers tonight, what does this mean? >> first of all, it means jobs. it means jobs for teachers to be put back in the classrooms. it means jobs for cops to be put back on the beat. it means jobs for firefighters and paramedics to be in their stations and on their apparatus to respond the next emergency. ed, what is so incredible about
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this is this is about 400,000 jobs, teachers, cops and firefighters, providing some of the most essential services that our government is supposed to provide to the citizens of our nation, the very reason to have government is to educate our children, keep our streets safe and respond the next emergency that a citizen could experience, and these jobs, these 400,000 jobs, will be paid for mortgages, buying automobiles. they will be consuming. they will be helping to fuel this economy while helping to keep our communities safe and our children educated. >> you heard mitch mcconnell in the sound cuts. that's the first thing he did on the senate floor this morning. they are spot on going after it for their base. is the republican obstruction putting american lives at risk? is that the case? >> i'll tell you, i heard on the lead up to this, you used the word preposterous. i will tell you what is preposterous.
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it is preposterous that senator mcconnell and the republican caucus would see fit to vote no against keeping our communities safe, against trying to make sure we are able to respond to the emergencies that our citizens experience. they always talk about entrepreneurs and that the private sector will create jobs. well, who's going to teach the children to become the next set of entrepreneurs? who is going to be the next engineers and doctors? it's our school system. it's our teachers. this is about essential government services and at the same time it is about putting hundreds of thousands of people back to work that have lost their jobs. >> earlier this year when we were in wisconsin you told me the international association of firefighters would not support any candidate who doesn't back labor. where do you stand right now? it seemed to me that vice president biden is pretty much in your corner.
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>> first of all, vice president biden has been an incredible friend of workers and working america and the working middle class his entire 40-year public career. and we are going to hold everybody accountable, ed. it's no different than it was this spring. this is a very simple choice right now. >> do you back president obama? >> members of the united states senate have a choice this week. they can choose to put people back to work, to educate our children, and to keep our communities safe, or they can take the political expediency to try to maybe influence an election and to block our economy recovering and people actually getting jobs again. >> does -- >> that's the choice. >> does your organization support president obama right now? >> we are supporting president obama. we support the administration and we're going to support anyone who continues to support the ability for our members to have jobs, to do their service,
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to be able to provide the incredible and important work that is so important in all of our neighborhoods and communities. >> harold, always a pleasure. good to have you with us on the program. now luts let's turn to crystal ball and host of the "ring of fire" radio show and crystal, is the president doing the right thing with the bus tour? should he continue this? is it working? >> it is absolutely working. i mean 75% of americans agree with getting firefighters and teachers back to work. i mean it's kind of a no brainer. this is what the president should have been doing a long time ago. taking his case to the american people, rather than trying to negotiate with a bumpl of people who, quite frankly, have no interest in negotiating. it is resonating and if this is his howard dean impression as mitch mcconnell said i'd love to see more of it. it is going over great in my book. >> pat, do the republicans want
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the economy to fail? is harry reid right when he says that? >> that's part of the program. unfortunately the only way the gop could be so dock eyed and con feud about their position on job creation and they are spending too much time reading the drudge report or the fox news spin about how bad obama is doing with the economy. my advice is to boehner is look at the polls and how the republicans look like helpless losers here. news flash to cantor and boehner, the obama jobs stimulus bus tour is working with. it is killing the republicans. the majority with on both sides believe in obama's program. not parts but all of it. what boehner and mcconnell should be worried about, ed, is that virtually every credible poll is now showing that most americans believe that obama and the democrats are better able to solve the unemployment problem in the country than the republicans.
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boehner better think again before he has his whiney out of touch republicans lead another fill buster to prevent job creation in america because right now the republicans are being blamed for the problem. they are not part of the solution. they are part of the problem. understand, the republicans didn't sw just filibuster, ed, to stop a vote on the jobs bill. they filibustered to stop a discussion at all about the debate. just cut off the debate at all. 14 million americans are out of work and they don't want to talk about it. >> i found the interview with jake interesting because the president talked about filibusters. he hasn't talked about that, that i know of in the past and talked about the obstruction he faced. is that a good path for him to take? >> absolutely. the republicans have been coming up with this narrative that the president got everything he wanted in the first two years. he had a democratic congress and
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democratic senate. so of course the got everything he wanted. when the reality was, republicans from day one said we will defeat this president and they did everything they could to obstruct progress and obstruct focus i on jobs and anything that would help the american people. so i think it is very helpful. you know, sometimes we have short memories and sometimes we forget the way things actually went down. i think it is important for the president to remind folks that these republicans have been obstructing from the beginning of his administration. >> i will tell you what, it's amazing that mitch mcconnell can throw out sound bytes like that that the president has gotten everything he wanted. you go the the street and ask what a filibuster is and most don't know. what about the millionaires, do you think the majority of wealthy people in the country would be with okay with .5% over a million dollars?
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what do you think? >> i don't think they have problems with it, ed, because most millionaires understand, they believe in capitalism. in order for capitalism to work, you have to put money in to the system. you have to move it, if you move it by way of government in to people's hands, that works. most millionaires believe in capitalism and become millionaires by believing in capitalism. by doing that we have to put money in the hands of people and this is one way to go about doing it. i don't think most people would have problems with that. >> great to have you on the program. thank you so much. before we continue, we want to tell you about a programming note. beginning on monday, the ed show will begin the new time slot at 8 p.m. eastern, 6:00 mown mao tan and 5:00 on the west coast. i appreciate all of you who have been watching us here at 10:00. i hope you join us two hours earlier starting on monday. today on my radio show i got a
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phone call from a gentleman who is 57 years old in chicago. we had a conversation. he said ed, we're with hurting out here. i have lost everything, i had to give up my home to pay my bills and i need a job and i have been out of work 14 months. i just want you to know, i feel very fortunate to be able to sit in front of the camera every night and have a job. it is a good time to have a job. it's always a good time to have a job. i feel very fortunate. i hope you will follow us at 8:00 and we will do the same stories as what we have done at 6:00 and 10:00 and now at 8:00. in fact msnbc can put my show anywhere. i'm just glad to be here. don't forget to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. i want to know what you think. rick perry and mitt romney went at it last night. we will survey the damage. and tragedy in john kasich's ohio. a man sets dozens of exotic animals loose and takes his own life. authorities were forced to kill nearly 50 of these aggressive creatures and according to neighbors the animals had a history of getting loose. >> we were going to the ranch one day and me and a couple of
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a revealing moment from the last night's debate, was the audience's attitude to the nation's unemployed. >> two weeks ago you said if you are not rich blame yourself. that was two weeks ago. the movement has grown do you still say that? >> yes, i do still say that. and here's why. [ applause ] >> wow! a gop debate crowd taking pleasure in the misfortune of others. where have we seen that before? >> governor perry, a question about texas. your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times.
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[ applause ] >> are you saying that society should just let him die? >> no. >> do you intend to circumvent the progress that's been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military? >> if the audiences are that extreme, what does it say about the candidates they are coming to see? >> it is a ponzi scheme. we need to repeal obama care. >> do not raise the debt ceiling. >> if you want to put people in jail, i want to second what michelle said, start with barney frank and chris dodd. >> the crazy talk got personal last night. we will have the fallout from the romney/perry show down next.
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welcome back to the ed show. i think we finally saw the true mitt romney last night. he's a guy that usually gets his way and always has. this is how he reacted when rick perry knocked him off of his game. >> you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year, and the idea that you stand here before us and talk about that you are strong on immigration is on its face the height of hypocrisy. >> governor romney? >> rick, i don't think i've hired an illegal in my life. i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that. >> i will tell you what the facts are. >> i'm speaking. >> the newspaper. >> i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. >> this is the way the rule work
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here. i get 60 second and you get 30 seconds to respond, right? anderson. >> you say you knew you had an illegal working. >> are you going to keep talking or are you going to let me finish with what i have to say. >> joining me is harold cook, texas strategist and author of "letters from texas." great to have you with us. i want to play the rest of the exchange between romney and perry. here it is. >> we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn, and they had illegal immigrants that were working there. when that was pointed out to us we let them go. you have a problem allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states you have to the let both people speak. so let me speak. >> how does mitt romney's reaction speak to his character? >> well, i don't think he did himself any favors. he was trying to defend himself against perry's attacks, and turn it around and attack perry.
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i think they both sounded shrill and like children. >> they wanted to get across at one another for sure. it seems to me that mitt romney lost his composure a bit. this is not the mitt romney we have seen in other debates and i think it might be a snapshot of what he really is like. what do you think? >> i think mitt romney -- he is en exupon nennially better at this presidential election in debates than the last time he ran for president. but this is not one of his finest moments but neither was it rick perry's finest moment. frankly, i think this gets away from politic and in to psychology in which it seems to me that both of these men are feeling extremely insecure about their vulnerabilities on the issue of immigration. >> this was the statement from mitt romney after the the debate. they said he is thin skinned and he got ra rattled and that is something we hadn't seen before.
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today the romney camp struck back with ad o an ad questioning perry's composure under question. here it is. >> he was before the social programs from the standpoint of -- >> do or die for him. >> not whether we will have this or that policy. >> we don't need any plan. >> perry did really throw up on himself during the debate. >> the fact is americans understand faith. >> rick perry plunging in the polls, rolling the dice. >> he wouldn't calm down. he seemed agitated. >> who's looking like this a winner at the end of the day, harold? >> i think the pundits that i heard today seemed shocked that perry was so mean. i have to tell you those of us in texas were not shocked at all. this is perry throat clearing. he hasn't gotten his mean engine warmed up yet. one thing that perry is composed. i think that is calculated and romney looked out of control so i think it advantaged perry. >> so this is the rick perry we haven't seen nationally but you
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have seen a lot of it in texas. >> oh, yeah. he'll get up in people's faces all the time when he thinks it is going to get him something. i will tell you, if the post-debate polling shows he has a bump for showing that side of him, you expect a lot more of that but it will not be just from him. you expect the super packs that are supporting him to start to rip the hearts out of other candidates. look, per ary has never won an election because his raises his popularity. he wins elections by raising everybody else's negatives. and that, i think, is the way he's concluded he can do that. >> harold cook. thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate your time t. a right wing fox news lie hit the main stream when debate moderator anderson cooper repeated it last night. psych doetalk is next. and michele bachmann, she pals around with mr. las vegas himself in sin city. stay with us. [ inner voice ] i've seen this before -- the old "impromptu in-law visit."
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in psychotalk tonight, a righty hits the main stream. fox has put a lot of energy in to pushing this false talking sgloint 40% of the country does not pay any tax. >> 47% of households pay not a single dime in taxes. >> 47% of all americans don't pay any taxes. >> 49% don't pay any tax. >> 51% of the tax isn't paying any taxes at all. >> half of the americans don't
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pay taxes. 50% of the people aren't paying house holds. 50% are. >> 50%s of the american house holds don't pay taxes anymore. >> of course it is not true that half of americans don't pay any taxes. 46% l won't pay federal income taxes this year, mainly because they don't make enough money. even the lowest income americans still pay other taxes, payroll, gas, state and local taxes. are they taxes? do they count, you are damn right they do. but this is what the righties do, they repeat a lie over and over again until it is accepted as fact. anderson cooper even said it last night. >> congresswoman bachmann. you said in the last debate that everyone should pay something. does that mean you would raise taxes on the 47% of americans who currently don't pay taxes? >> anderson corrected himself tonight on his show but the fact he said it in the first place shows why these guys keep repeating bogus talking points
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because it works and fox news isn't letting up. eric was back at it again today. >> 9-9-9 was easy to understand. they loved herman cain and said i need to sign on and all of a sudden the wnl wj comes out and says 84% of americans will pay more than that because 50% or so don't pay taxes any way. >> the endless reputation of a false claim is typical fox news psychotalk. why did a man with history of animal abuse keep 50 wild animals on his ohio farm? because the law allowed him to. just another day in john kasich's ohio. that's next. congressman west says martin luther king junior could not have backed the 99% movement. west is wrong. stay with us. we'll be right back. the employee of the month isss... the new spark card from capital one. spark miles gives me the most rewards of any small business
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stay inside, there just might be a lion, tiger or grizzly roaming in your neighborhood. >> can you believe that? it has been a terrifying 24 hours for the residents of zanesville, ohio. they found out firsthand what deregulation is all about. >> these are some of the animals killed overnight in what can only be described as an open season slaughter of wild, and dangerous animals. >> here's the story. the animals were owned by terry thompson. thompson kept them on his 73-acre farm, despite his criminal record and history of animal neglect. authorities believe that thompson freed the animals from their cages and then killed himself. schools were closed and residents told to stay indoors as police searched and scores of animals, described as mature and
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aggressive, they were forced to be kill -- forced to kill 50 of them including 18 bengal tires, six black bears, six grizzly bears, two wofls and one baboon. six animals have been captured. at this hour all animals have been accounted for including a diseased monkey thought to be on the loose. how did a guy with a criminal record keep an entire zoo in his backyard? because the law permits it. simple as that. ohio doesn't regulate private ownership of exotic animals. the state's last governor, democrat ted strickland wanted to change that. in january he signed an emergency executive order that banned the keeping of exotic animals. when john kasich took office he was asked if he would extend the executive order. here's what he said. it. >> sounds reasonable. but let me just take a look at it. i would be inclined to say we should continue it. >> well, kasich ended up letting the order expire. today he was answering for that
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decision. >> governor, there's a lot of people blaming your administration this morning for the situation over in zanesville. they are saying that would have been avoided if you hadn't allowed the exotic animal ban to expire. how do you respond to that? and where do you stand on exotic animal rules? >> well, first of all, the people in charge in our administration said they didn't have the authority, nor did they have the infrastructure to even carry out something that was put in the last days of the administration. as a result of that, they started working on, you know, a working group to get that done. >> i think a good attorney would probably look in to that to verify what the governor was saying. joining me is msnbc contributor and washington correspondent to
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the nation magazine who's following the story. john nichols. great to have you with us. why did kasich allow the order to expire and speak to the last answer he just gave to that reporter. >> it is a bogus answer, ed. here's the problem. this governor had an order from the previous governor that would have shut down this particular farm, this particular exotic animal situation by about may 1 of 2011. it was all structural. it was all planned. didn't make for an immediate removal. didn't create some sort of crisis situation where ohio department of natural resources folks would have had to rush in. they had time. they could have implemented an order and taken folks out. instead, governor kasich decided not to trust the ohio department of natural resources to be able to implement this thing. it fits with what governors, republican governors across this country have been doing. they don't like the department of natural resources operations
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because these are the folks who often implement environmental rules, who put regulations on business. there is a tendency to not go along with the dnrs in the states and i they is exactly what governor kasich did. unfortunately it created a carnival situation, horrible mess. the reality is that again and again and again these republican governors refuse to, or avoid implementation of smart regulations because they think it will be some kind of burden on business or they just think it won't be popular with their campaign contributors. >> even from the humane society that ted nugent is pouncing on the governor from ohio, john kasich. how does this impact him politically, if at all? >>. >> i think it has an impact. john kasich looked pretty uncomfortable today when he was taking those questions. as the day has evolved. remember, the whole state of ohio has looked at this issue
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around the clock. it's been an intense, very passionate moment for ohio. here they see their governor being casual about it, still taking no responsibility. refusing to step up. and i think they have to juxtapose it with the issue 2 debate. here's a governor who somehow found all of these extraordinary powers to go after public employees to cut their wages, cut their benefits, to crack down on their unions, but he says he doesn't have the authority to protect people from wild animals. >> jack hanna says he will work with the governor to get some kind of legislation done. so do you think that will happen? >> i'm sure it will happen. look, i've covered governor kasich for years. i was a newspaper editor in ohio for a long time, back when he was a congressman. he's a pretty smart politician. at the end of the day he knows he will have to clean this up. but i think we should focus on the reality. that across this country, every
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day, there are these republican governors, including kasich, who don't take regulation seriously. >> sure. >> they don't see why we have regulations and this is going to be highlighted here. even if the governor cleans up this one, there's a lot of other regulations that should be looked at as well. >> the last sound byte we played of kasich, he refers the last governor i wasn't on solid ground to continue with the executive order. it is something that should be looked in tochlt i'm sure the state legislature will follow up on it. a harrowing situation in ohio today. >> it was. >> john nichols of the nation magazine with us. the ed show will start at a new time. 8:00 eastern, 7:00 central. we will get to work two hours earlier. hope you join us at 8:00 on the ed show starting on monday. michele bachmann gets cozy with wayne newton after the republican debate last night. daily show do creator liz winston will talk about her own encounter with mr. las vegas next. righ that's logistics. ♪
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there's a reason why a healthy majority of americans support the 99% movement. it is all about economic justice. that's why dr. martin luther king junior would have supported it. but tea party congressman allen west thinks he knows better. and next, wayne newton kisses michele bachmann. you won't want to miss it. you're also protected. with new crest complete, you know you're covered. ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie. could've had a v8. and today, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspirin. it has microparticles so it enters the bloodstream faster
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in my play book tonight, michele bachmann is down in the single digits in the presidential polls but he has at least one very enthusiastic fan. >> wayne newton. tell me, listen, it looks like you are on a date. >> i will support this beautiful lady as long as she wants to go. >> what do you -- >> that's pretty good, don't you think, greta? >> that is pretty hot. >> just how hot was it? bachmann spent the entire interview snuggled under wayne newton newton's armpit and then mr. las vegas went for first base.
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>> good luck to both of you. >> thank you for allowing me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yowza. can we go to the replay the videotape. michele bachmann seemed to flinch before she got her ready for tv smile back on. but she is no stranger to awkward displays of public affection. she has experience here. after the 2007, she kept a death grip on bush's shoulder until he let her plant a wet one on him. joining me is comedian liz wins ston. cocreator of the daily show. >> that was like the worst eharmony commercial ever. >> what do you make the of the love fest. >> when you have to go home to marcus at night maybe it is a nice change up. looking at wayne newton, it is -- first of all, i don't know what happened. he's a little surgeried out, which is kind of creepy. if you look at him he looks like somebody just took. you know when you take the wax and seal an envelope. they waxed his face out. the little lady, i love this little lady.
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i love this lady. >> here's a clip of backman gushing over newton last night. >> going up and down the strip, giving other celebrities, congresswoman? >> why not? we will take support everywhere we can. this is a picture of america right here. this is like john wayne, wayne newton. i'm just thrilled. >> john wayne? okay. is wayne newton has good as it gets for michele bachmann. >> doesn't get better than wayne newton. john wayne newton gingrich. >> i hear you have your own kind of run in with wayne newton. >> i went to see wayne newton because of course i'm a big fan in vegas and i was the youngest person there by about 40 years. and he does a thing where he does dank ka shane for 20 minutes and goes in the audience and kisses all the women whether they want it or not and he does the whole thing he staired at my bobs for a minute to the point where it was uncomfortable and he is like danke. i'm like, eyes up.
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welcome back to the ed show. the tea party congressman from florida allen west has joined other republicans criticizing the occupy wall street movement. he's taken it a step further. west said dr. martin luther king jr. would not have supported it. >> martin king jr. would not have backed these type of protests. first he had a focus, a message. he was a divinely inspired. i don't know what the inspiration is for these individuals. >> congressman west, the inspiration and the message is pretty straightforward. it's a call for economic justice in america. in fact, in august of 1963, the sunday before a march on washington, dr. martin luther king, jr. said this on nbc's "meet the press." >> we have waited for well now 345 years for our basic constitutional and god-given rights, and we still confront the fact that we are at the bottom of the economic ladder. we confront the fact that the
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gap between the medium income of negros and whites is widening every day. >> i don't know, congressman, does that sound familiar to you, the income gap between the working class and the wealthiest americans is widening every day. that's why king's very own daughter, the reverend bernice king said her father would have supported the 99% movement. he stood for both racial and economic justice. one part of the 99% movement has now formed a demands working group and called for a national convention, a list of suggested demands includes a jobs plan and single-payer health care. but the suggestions by the working group have not yet been embraced by the movement as a whole. let's bring in the director of africana studies dr. james peterson. good to have you with us. >> how are you? >> doing fine. how do you think martin luther king would have seen the 99% movement and why is it so important? >> well, it's clerly dr. king would have embraced the
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movement. remember his principals of nonviolence. remember when he gave his life for the movement he was focused on addressing poverty directly and marching, nonviolently, to washington with. when he got shot in memphis when he was working with the sanitation workers, this was his platform precisely. so i'm just disgusted by this in some ways, ed. representative west and i hope the people from the 22nd district in florida can hear me on this. for a congress person to have this kind of nonsensical grasp on american history, at this particular moment where we are commemorating the life and work of mlk is disheartening and disappointing. >> he put it in the congressional record. he didn't say it on the radio talk show with a righty. he went on television and said this. >> this progressive movement is really what communists would call between the 19th and 20th century. we are starting to see the face
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of who liberal progressives are, being marxist, stalinist type policies, socialist type policies. >> the does this man have any kred at all. >> he doesn't have a grasp on history at all. he is political siding things he should not be politicalizing. it is gis 34is guided. he just does to compete. it is about making political moves. 99% movement is one of the most important movements of my entire lifetime where folks are actually standing up and standing in to try to get economic justice in this country. at a time where the top 1% control more wealth and more land than they have since the
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1920s chk h, it is time for the 99% to challenge. that that is what capitalism is about. you want to talk about socialism and communism, that kind of government, socialism has been directed to the corporate sect. now we have people standing up and politicians like this, pli politicizing the these movement and december troiing the legacy of mlk and almost leaves me speechless. i have been on a few time and i have a lot to say but this story almost leaves me speechless. >> what do you make of the demands working group. they are focusing in on some things they want with. they want to have a national convention. what do you make of this? >> i feel like the organic nature of the occupy wall street movement needs to be allowed to live and breathe, as it is. the working group certainly should make recommendations, but i'm not going to be disappointed if the movement doesn't take on all the recommendations. we need to support the movement,
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if you believe in what they are doing. give it drekts and leadership, if you believe in what they are doing but the idea this a working group understands better than the people themselves is a misunderstanding of what the movement is. >> they are talk tg about a convention in july of 2012. they are talking about putting candidates in every district and say if they can't get it done 12, they will go to 2014 and 2016. where does this leave the democrats? if you look at the demands, it parallels that of the democratic platform of the convention they had in denver in 2008. what about that? >> i think the dnc should certainly be looking at occupy wall street very, very closely. obviously the movement itself has ban little ret sant about embracing politicians because sometimes politicians get to washington and forget about the movement. it should be how to do we marry some together to make a strong

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