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weekend, and i'm wide awake. >> those are good. my favorite one, "lockup san quinton conjugal visits." "morning joe" starts right now. >>oava i bme t ny obmsny bu l'sno or what mitt romney would call a little fixer upper. latch laugh [ laughter ] >> he told when i was a kid that i would be sitting on the same dais with president barack obama, i would have said, the president's name is barack obama? remember when the country rallied around you in hopes of a better tomorrow? that was hilarious. >> good morning. it is monday, april 30.
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welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, w he msnbc and"te" mazne si poitalnasta hapen, ndatnaafir et or mll >> how was it? >> i don't remember. >> see, i told you. >> how is willie doing this morning? >> he was my date all weekend. >> that's why he doesn't remember. >> he's blocking it out. >> that is the reason. willie geist, man -- >> amthese yak. >> did you have fun? >> yeah. the president was good. he was very funny. the dog eating came up more than i expected it to. he went there a couple ofmes, jimmy kimmewe there anhe fny. >> jtawhehhghs, dheon lugutou moishe h id yt i people did not
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immediately. oh, yes. >> i didn't either. i was sitting there for half a second, and then i started going, my god did, he go there? >> if you what up it on tape, it's almost silent, and it grows. and he's gone to his next joke and then there's a wave of laughter. >> michelle has the same reaction. did he just do that? yeah, he did. >> delicious. it was delivered well. and you know what i love about this is, i don't know ifhe never goto do ts beforee srede oth unid tas. eoys dog smu. anth fcthhe jo i smu mest lomo f iitene lgh wnteph he's going t
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election on the dog thing. joking aside, that's a platform of his campaign. i eat dogs. >> the dog thing is not going go away. >> how was jimmy kimmel? and i asked this question because we have had ups and downs. colbert didn't work. others did. and how did he do? >> i thought he was good. i think the standard -- seth myers was so good last year, the standard was really high. his delivery is such that he is rapid fire. he must have gotten off 00 jokesn s short set. it w vryft. de lkve ft bin wi. anihohtli aut lfy , erwe men yi t ah s o are really funny in their own sort of realm that just collapse here. stephen colbert had a terrible
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night. didn't this clorowd at all. jay leno was terrible. people were groaning. the same sort of jokes that worked well for him every night didn't work for him there. and i love jimmy kimmel. but it was sort of in the middle. you laughed at some, but other times it was out of the element. >> there was a lot of inside humor. e esident really -- tey frame -- tey tnk o tse jok reallwi teef ytu bau ty ow miio o ppl a gngo t t ee. lird the comedians write very inside jokes for the beltway, about the boehner-cantor rivalry, which kind of works in the room but doesn't necessarily translate outside because they are trying to get to the inside. there was a bit of that. >> to your point, the joke about peter orzag. there is a leak in the room.
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i think he left his mouth on. >> can i just say, that was so inside? i just got it three days later after you -- i said, oh, he's talking about him leaking. i was lik what des tat ea id he drli pbl are cfenc i ar pp- visl ychkek >> and every time one of kimmel's jokes fell flat, he blamed it on tapper. >> so who else? any other big awards there? >> scott wilson of "the washington post" won. >> great. and politico won something? >> yeah. politico did win. >> you guys weren't conscious. >> i was still at the bar, i think, during the awards part of the ceremony. >> the after party. did "vanity fair" have an after
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party th year? >> they did. 'su - y kw, wl rell nt. iha b iokee year for the past four years. we have missed three great "vanity fair" parties and probably another one this year. >> they have it at the french ambassador's home, and i don't know that i have seen a more impressive residence in washington, d.c. >> i heard it's amazing. >> it is an amazing house. it was relatively small this year. they tried to keep the numbers lower than -- they had a fire marshal problem last year. the mayor was there. chris christie and the mayor talking it up. a lot of people look at that as e 2016ict, jokinglof cose loofolwo ppl >>thvatyai rt beusalo ohe tng
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ar ttlsov " actually got a list stars there. i'm sure they did this year. the stars came out this year. >> the a list of the a list. i'm a company man, so i was at the msnbc party at the italian embassy. phil did it big this year. >> was it a bunga bunga party? >> it was close. >> what did he do? >> it was close to a bunga bunga party. >> really? >> we got the whole embassy. we had the run of the place. >> what? >> wait amite. wh d pl? i don ow bu iod veikaybeon adtialay t erl safer no lrty?cir llg >> it was a great party. >> does that surprise you that
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he didn't give us the heads up? >> i'm surprised they weren't all in towels. >> it was an incredible party. i won't say the hour. i left extraordinarily late, and there were still a couple hundred people there. >> what? >> willie is still there actually. >> was it a berlusconi party? was phil america's answer to berlusconi? >> let's call him silvio from now on. dto say, didotakit ero at party. beau i iearlyo be elytoi knd orn. >> t'ta ahegento thns. tasogh rfa longer, and was more sucked up to than george clooney. >> that makes me tired. >> you know, i think i saw him at one of these things five years ago, and he was a very down to earth kind of guy.
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>> charlize theron, a lot of beautiful actresses at the party. a lot of guys. the jokesters, the beautiful women. >> as long as we're on the topic, tammie hadad had her brunch on sad for the cure epilepsy group. they were honored and steve case was honor,hi gese e ptutyoto mb bg t bg ag at rar dso a ephso l american. >> except for the fact that willie did manage to embarrass one of the hosts. >> well, hilary rosen, out of love. >> known this weekend as the three amigos. >> you walk in, try to get a bloody mary, and she says, i need you. get on the stage. but i brought that up because -- >> because elle mcpherson was there. >> but lindsay lohan was there.
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>> don't be confused by the story willie just told. he made it sound like he didn't get the bloody mary. he got the bloody mary before he went onstage. >> i was surprised to see lindsay lohan. >> she was there. >> and kim kardashian. he kardashn mom was there to inedible >>k. >llig. now n we dso ns le pt e ur >>ur >>, w jt go il w appearing at a fundraiser with the president last night, former president bill clinton attacked mitt romney's economic strategy as a throwback to the failed strategies of the past. he railed against a republican opponent who basically wants to do what they did before, on steroids, which will get you the same consequences you got before, on steroids. the joint appearance was the first of three fundraise that obama and inn willeadline toth. the amteam is hino t toclt'sid ntwrkf
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dor wlehe rm onut killed osama bin laden one year ago this week. but ed gillespie says the fight against terrorism should not be a partisan issue. >> this is one of the reasons president obama has become one of the most divisive presidents in american history. he took something that was a unifying event for all americans, an event that governor romney congratulated him and the military and the intelligence analysts in our government for competing the mission in terms of killing osama bin laden. and he's managed to turn it into a divisiartisan plitica atacthorrdens ectafrk rlciald sajo caaed smel. thk stmeca ll s afgn election and
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questions if there would have been a different outcome if romney was sitting in the oval office. >> just a few years ago, president obama, then a candidate, said in a speech that if we had actionable intelligence of a high value target in pakistan, we would go in and get that high value target. mitt romney said that was foolish. he wouldn't do such a thing. that he wouldn't move heaven and earth to get osama bin laden. >> you're saying that president obama believes that a president romney, if he was working with the same nonpartisan professionals in the counterteor realms of e government, who came him th inlligence,ang a an oprtittoapreanki omainle y'ayg rede rnewodn te atho dot in carth actionable intelligence about a high value target -- let's be clear. nobody was bigger, nobody was a more high value target than osama bin laden.
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>> mark halperin, is it fair game, the use of the killing of osama bin laden? >> i think discussing it is part of the president's record is totally fair game. i will say i believe that the media, if george bush did a video about some asset getting saddam hussein or something in an election year, would go crazy. >> i can't imagine. >> it would be shut down. it would be the lead story on the news every night. >> talk about demagoguing this. and then they would show the -- they would find the wife of a navy s.e.a.l. whoou say, you know i just hurts m tha m husbd nt a, yu knw, wgege.bu iexoing his ros. fbout.ae >> i do think it's fair game. i think it's -- i mean, i think the standard i go to on this is george hw bush, who was there when the wall came down, and he refused to use it in his campaign. he refused to let political
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advisers even bring it up. now that said, on the other side of the ledger, if this had failed, if this mission had failed, do we think mitt romney would be exploiting that for political gain? of course. e questio aweielf, gh >> tnk it iaiga. t m rpsethhes toueio ris aut , een ouothnk 's ir t and the white house is -- i think at some point americans are going to stop and say, boy, they're really exploiting this politically. is there a danger here of going too far? >> i think the interesting question is how the media portrays it and whether they portray it as overkill or not. look, it was a big decision. >> it's an incredible story. >> it's an incredible story. mika is right. the tick tock of is an incredible story it.
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does highlight the president's mode of decision making in a really significant way. andon mitt romney, you know, thre is an elementfypocry langut he. ouadhe stentha e obacaai ioiin t, roeyavg debot diniinthimrtcef ttg n de y h attacked romney back in 2007 for that same statement and accused romney of being weak for not emphasizing how important it was to get bin laden. so there is a lot of political hypocrisy. >> the thing with mccain, though, mccain comes from a military family. you know, when you come back from war, and you do heroic things, here you have a commander in chief, whatever, you know what you don't do? you don't go down to the vfw and hold up your medal and go, guys, t tell you what i d. thre ad
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ndno jst f ca bo oerilar m a wen >>has ue is unsel well, it's also gener. mccain was reticent of having his campaign use his story in any way. he eventually did. there is a generational thing about these kind of things. who knows what mccain would do once he was in the oval office running for re-election? again, it's a big triumph. there's no way they are not going to -- there is just no world in which this is not going to be -- >> shouldn't it just speak for itself? >> and that code that, is a code among democratic heros thatgo toarndreblican her tt gtoorand inpeen tt twa swili wtiju titorse e
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when everybody else around that table was saying, you know what, it's awfully risky, mr. president, he made the decision. >> he did. >> shouldn't you let other people say it? >> probably. but on the list of things this country wanted to do over the last decade, killing osama bin laden was pretty close to the top, and he's the guy who did it. so i don't think we should be surprised it comes up again and again. it is interesting when you think of the context of it. the democratic president and his campaign accusing a republican of being weak kneed, a guy who obably wouldn't or perps uldn't havmade this llf he'dadhe opptuty rede omas ldghe rdonoipoc a deoctipridt. 'sasnang> t'uito--a like it are taking advantage of the nation's tax code to reap millions of dollars in savings. according to the story, the tech giant made over $34 billion in
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profits last year and paid just over $3 billion in taxes. now that's a tax rate of less than 10%. by comparison, you look at something like walmart, which paid a reported 24% tax rate. corporate filings show 70% of apple's profits are allocated from overseas, and in some cases, the company set up little more than a mailbox in a low tax rate country in order to take advantage. hereathome, the comny oped an fiin renonadhere th - >>ll noisoth f omilonaly,ig? i b re. h. hthrpnia, the rate is nearly 9%. so without taking advantage of those methods, which are completely legal, apple would have paid an extra $2.4 billion in taxes last year. the company responded to "the new york times" report writing a statement and saying, in part, this. apple pays an enormous amount of taxes which help our local,
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state, and federal governments. in the first half of fiscal 2012, our u.s. operations have generated almost $5 billion in federal and state income taxes including income taxes withheld on employee stock gains. >> what do you think, mika? >> i think that these large companies, and there are my of thm,ho are alsoetting toth t t dge a tax epriiohoda wchas sothgasedn t bsh adnionone, tat roerasge it. i think they're making out like bandits, quite frankly, and the little guy hurts ultimately. and i think it's abhorrent. and both sides ought to come together and try and close these loopholes. what do you think? >> i think it's -- i think if i'm running apple, i'm going to go -- >> mitt romney is for the holiday. i'm not surprised. >> i think i'm going to go across the globe and find -- >> a way not to pay your fair share? >> find laws that are the most advantageous to my company and to workers and also tohe
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ahoer bu ts i lke tg. sty. t'li t wrebuet axss rbecome. this is the kind of thing that a lot of good companies do. they always shop for foreign tax advantages. apple is a target now because they have become so successful. you know, it is one of the things about living in a federal system that states compete with each other to try to -- for exactly this reason, on regulatory issues, on tax systems. you know, we've seen that kind of thing happen. and there's almost like a war between the states trying to get businesses in to them for things like this. >> and we definitely see it in the tristate area. chris christialmost goang dana mlo i a teygetalngelw. t dnaalyei le h
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nedetoaiesn onctutriie state, you should pay that state's taxes to. have a mailbox elsewhere, you think that's a fair way of doing business? please. you don't. >> my primary residence is not in florida right now. i wish it were, because i would like to pay 0% state income taxes. >> exactly. >> i've got to figure out a way to do it. i just can't. >> i know you don't. >> there's some guys in silicon valley can help you out with that. >> that's what bugs people the most, mika, that you can actually -- i make good money here. you can actually make good money andstill n be aeo d wat tulmiioir a t llnairesrebltoo. yo kw,ouav eou ,aven unnt i'm not mistaken, like
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every year, i pay 35%. i mean, i just -- i don't -- i had some guy say, you know, you have to -- you should make it so your income is capital gains instead of salary or whatever. and i'm like, how do you do that? >> there's a word for people like you at apple. >> what's that? >> chump. >> exactly. >> you should talk to mitt romney's people. he has a couple of tax advisers to help you out. >> that's how the rich get richer. once you ve allfhisney, y st make money o o iesen a n betting 40 ermoin yr x teoedo. it jt is ndf az if have to wake up in the morning and go to work, then you will have, you know -- >> i think i hear joe scarborough calling for an increase in the capital gains rate right here. that could be the headline this
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morning. >> mika, what's next? >> we have democrats who are planning to bring new legislation to the senate floor in the coming weeks to protect women from discrimination in the workplace. >> oh, that is -- you know what? that is so courageous of them. >> it wll allow women to inquire and discuss the wages of their male colleags. hmm. is moi eyre etrtsf rmgh i 19. w d doctshahe en thsende.ohesu prec wnn the legislation was up for a vote in november 2010 but failed in a senate when not a single republican voted for the bill. we'll see how it goes this time. >> what's fascinating to me is that democrats control the house and the senate from 2009 through the end of 2010 and had a democratic president. it's fascinating that they didn't push this more aggressively over the two years that they ran the place.
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had a monopoly in fact, mika. >> we'll see how it goes. i'm glad they are going for it now. >> had a filibusterproof senate for a while. >> won ould feel vry confident asngbo tir ag a wth or noth e fr. dth sul b le tue epaff moysif he'sdio eeldal w't very sad. up next, politico's top stories. but first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> good monday morning, everyone. beautiful weekend in much of new england and much of the east coast. but we suffered in the middle of the nation from kentucky all the way to st. louis, a lot of nasty thunderstorms this weekend. so this morning it's kind of the same old story. we're watching cold temperatures in new england. but you're going to have a beautiful afternoon. gorgeous weather today from boston to d.c. we will see some rain, though, from buffalo, detroit, pittsburgh, back into the ohio
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valley. riht nowthis morningnu numerous sties stl llg in aound estlosea ou ,0 lhtngtresn stou t fect es aynllw,u thunderstorms today, cleveland, detroit, indianapolis, louisville, just south of st. louis, including areas of north texas, oklahoma city, and wichita. so the forecast today, if you're traveling at the airports, watch out down in miami too. heavy rain yesterday continues today. the west coast not looking too bad. just a little bit of light rain up there in the northwest. you're watching "morning joe" on this monday, beautiful, beautiful, sunrise. we're brewed by starbucks. rent, tsrocoin ascienc.
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ic miseof ald sang wh'sheifree twn hoeyomnd p bl? las liou >> i love how he said delicious. >> oh, my goodness. >> just let it sit, marinate a minute. >> a lot of dog talk. >> that was good. >> with us now, really the man of the hour -- you asked about celebrities, george clooney, lindsay lohan, mike allen. >> mike allen was there? >> i saw him on cspan. that and spanky. >> i feel so stupid for not going now. >> mike allen, always a reporter, always at the big events, with a tape recorder held up to the speaker. always working. mike, good to see y, n. dou havfuthis wke? >> iid sieouwe he bdung t li awd,ha y fo mntni , potion
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seper glenn thrush. so it was the newspaper counterpart to the jake tapper triple count. >> i was going to say that, if you would let me finish. >> but i knew that politico had won something big. and i was actually over in england. >> watching futbol. >> watching futbol. and it came across -- it came across the ticker. politico has just won -- >> everybody was talking about it. >> you're a worlclass supersta >> you are, mike. >> l'salso bins re pridt am ueing aew sileorslanorhi t wd " o solve the puzzle of a great bumper sticker is not -- it could be worse. and that was sort of the implicit message of the campaign
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for a while. so today, to the campaign's 10 million plus list, they are sending this video which is going to be unveiled this weekend. saturday is the public debut of the general election campaign. >> hold on a second. i'm just curious. so forward. really. that's it, huh? so is fox's slogan going to be -- or mitt romney's slogan going to be balanced? i meahe's takg nbs og. the fwa w ten campaign, the president going out as a candidate saying re-elect me. >> mike, let me ask you quickly what we were talking about in the last block. >> lindsay lohan? >> no. why is it fair for obama to be
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using the death of bin laden in this campaign? >> well, they're going to, and it's used a lot again in this seven-minute video out this morning. i think mike halpern is right, what if this was george w. bush? the otr way to look at it i he'so y pl isut ofheecd t last re yes. adrat aangeor prsintba.as id d i one-upped george w. bush. >> mike allen, the star of the weekend in washington. congrats on the award. coming up, the washington nationals call up the natural, kind of a lebron like prodigy of major league baseball. looking good with the bat and the glove. sports is next. everyone in ameca depends on the st servi
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>> maybe from someone on his own team. >> and the veterans inside that clubhouse -- >> incredible talent. got his ged after sophomore yaoer yao year in high school. >> somebody needs to take him aside and tell him how many millions of dollars he is losing in endorsements because of his behavior. >> gatoleveime ck game flrsea eelsin dbl . >> rge w t, gh >> r w >>em
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>5 hree hilary rosens? >> just the one. >> just two. >> just the one good one, hilary rosen. >> ok. "the washington post" -- >> we were talking about this because there was a joke jimmy kimmel made about jay carney suggesting that he knew three hilary rosens, and there's why there were so many hilary rosens visiting the white house. we asked him if he said it. here is the quote. i know three personally women named hilary rosen. >> ok. [ laughter ] >> that's great. >> what? >> just come on. >> what? >> that's just great. who knows three hilary rosens? that is funny stuff. >> that may have all visited the white house. i's sll rl wli . tt'a reh. > . "wasngton st he' wtasngn al y beueon the rich and well-to-do. benefits go mainly to the poor
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and middle class while politicians of both parties live in fear they might offend the will of the people, voters. political leaders don't lead. they take the path of least rev assistance, which is to do little except find scapegoats, the rich, special interests, liberals, conservatives, that arouse their supporters' angriest antagonisms. it helps explain polarization. would you aee, joe? >> yeah. pretty sime uf th cbututa b po reenytainabt w r bts aibldelaw, quote, unsustainable. and yet we don't hear -- we hear none of -- these are our biggest fiscal challenges over the next 10 to 15 years. and neither party talks about it seriously. >> well, there's a lot of talk about it.
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there's just not a lot of action on it. >> nobody puts any proposals forward. >> based on the conversations i had over the weekend in washington, i think there's reason to be optimistic with one exception. there's a hunger in the senate to get things done of both parties. they are sick of gridlock. whoever wins the presidency, there's goi to be a hunger to thingsdone at the bgiing ofthrterm, weterthe psinte-ecdori my. e esons eoe rntiv. llheewou of tavebeuny g rmce you've got harry reid who has been one glorified pocket puppet for the president. anything the house passes, he puts it in his pocket and it never gets to the white house. the democrats have not passed a budget in over 1,000 days. the senate is pathetic. it's the least effective in over 20 years according to studies. it's a joke. >> you're right about what's happened.
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i'm saying that there's now -- >> and talking about the press really quickly, if mitch mcconnell were majority leader, do you think we might see a few more stories about how this is the mstneffeivsete poibly ia arr nty? >a orlpotil,eswe ul satoe st, ft atet things done, and they recognize it's not going to happen this year, it's not going to happen pre-election, but they really think there's a chance they can be part of breaking gridlock come either the lame duck session or more likely january. >> i think that one of the keys to that, and i think mark is right, one of the keys is that i think in the senate, among senate republicans, unlike what we have seen from house republicans, senate republicans are willing to talk about revenue and new revenue. and that's critical. because the truth is, in the long-term of this, we have discussed it a llion times, you need toake cts in the prra and you nd new vee. puics touha bn wiioisssth. publics t satar
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evugth w'tayt ghw,the.ing on entitlements. >> correct. there's a huge piece on paul ryan. in the first two paragraphs in "the times," you find out that he noodles. >> what does that mean? >> willie's face. >> dancing? is that a -- >> catfish. >> oh, that kind of noodling. >> exactly. >> we'll be right back with bare hands. it's very good. i want to noodle. one of the one linersrom the ithoe creonnt dne wel veeval oth mi uonmoinjo" vrt to uanhond kd icr
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he made it real for me. we built a guitar, we did things with electronics and mother boards. that's where the interest in engineering came from. so now, as an engineer, i have a career that speaks to that passion. thank you, mr. davies.
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is it time? >> it's time. we showed a little bit of president obama doing his stand-up routine. here's some more of him at the white house correspondents dinner on saturday. >> i want especially tnk lof theemrs who tok a eafr teixhstg helefno pssg y ws bhe tig.ae are this party.
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we have men in tuxes, women in gowns, fine wine, first class entertainment. i was just relieved to learn this was not a gsa conference. [ laughter ] >> even sarah palin is getting back into the game. guest hosting on "the today show." which reminds me of an old saying. what's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit pull? a pit bull is delicious. [ laughter ] i kowthoiaof a eecnge gaf lelopne, wt ri
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he has two. what a snob. [ laughter ] >> in my first term, i sang al green. in my second term, i'm going with young jesi. in my first term, we repealed the policy don ask don't tll in. mysend ter wwillepce itita li kwns 's rainme inyfit rmweasd al ce fo.myi t f [ cheers and applause ] >> mr. president, i know you won't be able to laugh at any of my jokes about the secret service, so cover your ears if that's physically possible.
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remember when the country rallied around you in hopes of a better tomorrow? that was hilarious. [ laughter ] >> you know, there's a termor gs like president oba. probably not two terms, but -- [ laughter > theris th t fsteahe h mth is mr nd isne an autobiography, right? you can leave some things out. when you go to a dog park, is it the same as when we look at a tankful of lobsters? >> that's awful. >> that is awful. >> the president introduced the dog, so it's fair game. >> rib eye and seeing eye.
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>> he brought it up. >> that is funny stuff. coming up next, gail collins of "the new york times" will join the conversation. we'll dig in deeper as well to that "tessundatobo apeidteiilonin tes tes job fthe igoon they sound awesome tonight. and when i do find it, i share it with the world. you landed the u.s. tour ? done. this is fantastic ! music is my life and i want to make the most of i without missing beat. fly without tting your lin pause.
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sthiempt it's great it's great to be here in the vast, magnificent hilton ballroom. or what mitt romney would call a little fixer upper. of course, the white house correspondents dinner is known as the prom of washington, d.c a term in by potil eporte w clearlyev had e an tgoo aua pr. laht ] >> wco bk "rng e.r, let it be said, and i am sure game change two will take special note of this -- >> it should. >> gail collins framed the debate around dogs long before anybody else knew that there had once been a dog strapped to the top of -- >> modern day nostradamus. >> she is a modern day
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nostradamus. >> it's a long campaign. you have to have a little break here and there. >> and you have a little break every week when you write about mitt romney's dog. and n you'veot bark ama tking aboutit bulls tasting delious. d einprident. s. th'stre. y'r a d peon >>av wi >> delicious. >> really, it's just fine. moving on now. >> can i ask you, gail, are you in mourning right now? should you be wearing black for a month or two because the republican contest is over? >> well, we're going to miss newt gingrich a lot. >> well, he's still here. don't worry. he still hasn't stepped down. >> herman cain. rick perry. the list goes on and on. seriously, did you just roll out of bed going, have i died and gone to columnist heaven? >> it was a good time. it really was.
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you gu got six mth of bara obama veus mittromney. at gin ba ngar fit. >> pel igo coveatn. wdot >>ust h was going to announce tuesday. now it's wednesday. why? he can't help it? >> he wants to do it on his terms. >> really? >> what does that mean? >> i think he is preparing to give a great speech and frame things the way he wants to frame them. >> yeah. now, there are some republicans, john, that are saying that mitt romney should punish newt gingrich at the convention for not playing ball. not giving him a speech. all of this is going to be forgotten in a week, right? >> i think so. and i think that he will not be in primetime. d thinkeieril saor bprete. bu ty' bh spea wul bmyes ukn, yavo a g er uinehe
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>> i would guess, mark halperin, if you had a pool of such things, and you were trying to figure out who was going to get the loudest applause other than possibly the nominee, i would put newt gingrich up there. i think he still does have a following even for people who didn't vote for him. >> maybe marco rubio would get a bigger applause. but i think the primetime in the convention is a different beast than it used to be, because there's no gavel to gavel coverage. you can let somebody speak between 8:00 and 11:00 and not make it t oaast . i tnkf ntumndiri meo e nvtiiv hunch is they will give a speech that governor romney will like.
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certainly the obama campaign officially started with a fundraiser with bill clinton over the weekend. and the obama and romney campaigns are exchanging attacks over whether the killing the osama bin laden is fair game. president clinton was in an ad touting the decision to take out the al qaeda leader, but ed gillese sa the fight against rrisshldt a pais issue >>hiisneofheeans apridt amhaeme e o t mt dvive yi ent analysts in our government for completing the mission in terms of killing osama bin laden, and he's managed to turn it into a divisive partisan political attack that former defense secretary frank carlucci for
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president reagan called sad, john mccain called shameful. i think most americans will see it as a sign of a desperate campaign. >> just a few years ago, president obama, then a candidate, said in a speech that if we had actionable intelligence of a high value target in pakistan, we'd go in and get that high value target. mitt romney said thatwas folish. he wouldn't do such thing. that he woun'mo hvean eah g omainad. yu' yi at presen uerim withrkgitit intelligence saying, we have an opportunity to capture and kill osama bin laden, you're saying president romney wouldn't take that shot? >> i don't think it's clear that he would. again, he criticized barack obama a few years ago when barack obama said, if we have actionable intelligence about a high value target -- and let's be clear, nobody was bigger, nobody was a more high value target than osama bin laden. >> gail collins, i'm not sure
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how this can be turned against the president. but it may be that i have no way of seeing that. >> i dot derstand wt theye doin ery te t rpuics isth rinpeleha backba tk t ambi lan. a teth why this is a thing that the republicans are doing. >> i think the president's foreign policy record is not perfect, but the republicans are doing themselves and the country a disservice by every time there's any foreign policy flap coming out and criticizing him. they are doing it on the situation in china, which is an incredibly tough foreign policy challenge for the united states now. with some activists reportedly in the u.s. against. and the republicans criticized the white house over the weekend. they have to pick their spots politicay. >> it's just a si argumen in glarhis ween
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peerbgeho h aewo othhe f b d, dh iaedhe iied somalia, and said this guy -- he is one of the most militarily aggressive presidents in decades. >> do you have that piece up right now? >> i do. >> can i see it for a second? >> it's on an apple product. >> i see that. >> mitt romney has a strong card to play on the economy. you know, and that is if he's going to win this election, he's going to win it on that card. to get into this, i think gail is right, all of these discussions play to an area where the president as i would agree with mark his foreign policy record is not perfect. some on the left think he's too miitily aggreiv b tt's not sometnghat e rubca areogo itici h r. ecat n ts aumt. eshldt st wh
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l, i'm on the right personally that thinks he's been too aggressive. he tripled the number of troops in afghanistan. i think we should have started moving out of afghanistan. and we said so three years ago. people like george will said so three years ago. he is launching drone attacks in countries where we aren't even at war. in fact, last week, the cia was allowed to actually loosen the standards for launching drone attacks into countries where we don't even have a declared war. he as adopt a t ohe bh-en resthdecrs d e esenfod feive. hveot iiand it's going to be e talking about a great national discussion. you will not have a great national discussion on foreign policy if mitt romney keeps
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trying to pretend that his argument that we should do exactly the same things that we're doing now is actually a stronger argument. it's going to be very weak. >> here's part of the article you were talking about. the rhetorical shift had dramatic nonrhetorical consequences. compare mr. obama's use of drone strikes with that of his predecessor. during the bush administration, there was an amican drone attack in pakistan eve 43 days. during their t yrs th omaainstti,he wa aro sikthe er fo ds. a t yrs tois libya. the man who went to washington as anti-war was more teddy roosevelt than jimmy carter. >> and the president from the beginning decided he wanted his military to launch more drone attacks. and in fact, i can't say where this was, but in a certain
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agency, in a certain government, they kept a scorecard. drone attacks pre-january 20, 2009. drone attacks post january 20, 2009. >> that nobel peace prize is looking a littletrange. >> y think tyma ntto tae c ithkinmohsas tt t sn er >>ea b- dhe thd at the nobel prize, he took that opportunity to articulate a philosophy of war. >> of why you needed it. >> and now you have romney trying to get to the right of the president on iran, and on syria, to your point, joe about, a war weary nation, who wants right now -- republican or democrat, wants to see boots on the ground in syria? who wants to see that region further militaryized? you can't beat him by saying he
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is too soft. to try to get to the right of him on the few places where you might get to the right of him goes against the vast weight of themericaoni. i a n nargunt ii rn a e reblan i ty owho t eitherehoin aha mbeotit esut wi twi t eno. down? they can run against the stimulus for not working. they can run against the auto bailout if they want to. they can run against all of the bailouts. they can run against health care. they can run against cap and trade. they can run against a lot of these issues that may not -- that play very well at "the new york times" but don't play as well with independents, if you say look at all the things they have tried to do, instead of trying to create jobs. and they are talking about foreign policy. >> well, when mitt romn tlks out fei poicy, he snd rae, lik a g w ot su wt' auallyogon endg d kw. ryve wrd da
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for, just at this point. to know who mitt romney is. >> all he needs to do on foreign policy is clear the bar that people see him as a acceptable commander in chief in order to win. and just dhcherry-picking to criticize everything, i just don't get it. >> speaker boehner criticized the white house for what he calls campaign theatrics. boehner says both sides agree on several important issues, but you wouldn't know it from listening to the president. >> the president and i have a very good relationship. as a result, you know, i try to avoid personalttks onth esen bulemeaysetng. herede i tngo ryaddve omis mpgnamheimis
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america has big challenges. big fiscal challenges, and we've got big challenges with our economy, and the president ought to be working with democrats and republicans on capital hill to address the big issues that affect the american people. >> boehner also made the case for mitt romney, pushing back against the suggestion that romney's wealth will be an obstacle in november. >> american people don't want to vote for a loser. they don't want to vote for someone that hasn't been successful. i think mitt romney has an opportunity to show the american people thathey too can succeed. soa alristh ovly pcing h ofi t and now democrats are pushing these bills for equal pay among women, which is great, but they certainly didn't push them as hard the first two years when
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they controlled washington. it seems like everything is politicized, but that happens in election years, right? >> well, particularly when you decide, as both parties have since the end of last year, that nothing is going to get done this year. if you're not going to move any serious legislation, of course all you're going to into is posture for the election. both sides are doing it. republicans would like to drive this message that the president is overly political. democrats want to drive the mean that the republicans arefued by sur pacsandillioir and ecl ntests. i n sethpuic ces bu bh de wlpd a l im>>really pathetic about this. >> well, let me say this. he is diminishing the office. so you had a column about education reform, which was fascinating. you claim that a lot of private companies are making a lot of money on education. >> that's what no child left behind gave us. this great cosmic improvement,
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you know, we're going to be accountable, we're going to do this and that. it's become a law about how we can bring the private sector in and give them all the money for public schools. it's very weird. but theamnt of mon tt he op a mingon stg. xa psclseto hlf biiodoarfoa veea cora.tse r aotcomputers, and the company that's got the computer program then gets all the money. >> so this is what you write. this is the part of education reform nobody told you about. you heard about accountability and choice. and innovation. but when no child left behind was passed 11 years ago, do you recall anybody mentioning that it would provide monster profits for the private business sector? me neither. the pushback against privatization isn't easy. we're now in a world in which decisions about public education involve not just parents and children and teachers, but also
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big prits or losses for the prive sect. chng e tests or e ttbksrhe arrsr eth resor acr erfid improve it? how do you not have companies creating the tests and creating some of these things? how else would it get done? >> actually, the obama administration is trying to work this out, but the problem now is you have 50 tests because each state wants to have their own test. the administration is trying to get everybody together and maybe one or two groups who have their own standards to figure out then what a test for these 20 states would look like. so you have a test that's been developed through the government, and you don't have -- it's not efficient to have 50 different state competing and0 -- n 5 fferen cpaesbu t o theeifre cpaesakg
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msi pfi. >>tsesome i rsndhe y ith l.d the subjects taught. but for math and science, why can't we have one or two national tests for math and science? it's hard to politicize a math equation, isn't it? >> well, science, you have evolution. so it's not that hard to do. >> well, you know, we can have a carveout for that. teach the other 99.9999% of high school. >> well, the states are enjoying it. texas won't do it. but most states are working together to try t wk ts tngou tno eryimyo make cioabtuti, u vtoakth otherhi nt coidatn. er a a otheuy o he w ve aon o n edwh aecngofprit up next, the authors of a
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23 past the hour. joining us now, "new york times" reporter charles dighig and charles ciheski. ouputyo ff wn yosa tt inabt ofs d xe sa ikee o
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dwhy perhaps some of these digital companies are able to do this. these gentlemen are the co-writers of the front page piece in "the sunday times," how apple sidesteps billions in taxes. in it they write, one downside for companies using such strategies is that when money is sent overseas it cannot be returned to the united states without incurring a new tax bill. however, that might change. last year apple aligned itself with more than four dozen companies and organizations urging congress for a repatriation holiday to permit american binesseto bring moneyho witho owing lage xe thoaitonwhhnud og,sot,nd pmeve$79 billion over the next decade, according to a congressional report.
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and i think before we look into why this is happening with some of these companies, i guess my question to you, joe, would be isn't that the effort to get a tax repatriation holiday an example of how corporations run washington? and get what they want? >> well, sure. but that story is as old as washington itself. >> it sure is. but at some point, the conversation has to lead to something. >> the biggerstor i think, i thfa ttthgeren ndwe s tis steer, 208,wh w selowvell how to get their arms around that, right? >> it's true. i think in the tax area, you -- where the big gains are now for companies is where they take intellectual property, patents, trademarks, move them offshore,
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and with the click of a button you can put it out to ireland, and the cayman islands. >> the netherlands. >> some play where it's tax free and the government chases after it. the irs has people trying to look after it. i was the a conference st year whe personhoanes e roamhe theyryochse th,hesa ty a omaingtak teeyers agove airfares to keep up with these companies. >> whether it's the irs or the s.e.c. trying to keep up with the banks and how quickly they move, the government is fighting a losing battle. >> it's true. they are outmanned and underguned. and the other side has almost infinite resources to find every loophole they can. and the nature of the economy has changed. we now live in a world where some of the most valuable things
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you sell are things you can't touch. it's lines of code in a computer or software. >> it's not like the industrial revolutio where you'relike, ok, we'r gin to get lts brckndorr d bui faor deoi yo c'tovth tp. b tneernd has tl >>gal. we can say that again and again for the case of balance. but this repatriation holiday, i mean, how is that not big companies who make massive profits trying to get around having to pay their fair share? can somebody explain to me how i sound trill here, that what i'm saying is absolutely not true? >> the argument is here is all of this money offshore, over $1 trillion. if they bring it back, they can invest and hire people. last year during the debate about trying to spur hiring in the u.s., that was a big argument. but if you look at what happened in 2004, the last timethere was a repatriationliy,thnk
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98 cetsnevryolar wnt arolrs wntto cen fckuy in the u.s. just isn't what happened. >> it isn't what happened in 2004. and why shouldn't they pay their taxes? i don't understand. >> obviously, and i understand the fairness argument, but if you give money to shareholders -- what are you smirking about? >> because it's so obvious. it's so political. this is such a case of massive profits, big corporations, basically ruling washington. >> they do rule washington, mika. but if you get the money back in the country, and it does go to shareholders, it's not like t shaholderar goingto throw eash o ted aro arndn nke thy e intope iin thecom >> fkn in t llnd have heard $2 trillio
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come back into the economy. it seems to me what would be offensive to americans, and you have a lot of conservatives talking about this on illegal immigration. reagan granted amnesty to 3 million illegal immigrants, thinking this is going to take care of it. and it only increases the problem. here, you think, ok, we let them repatriate the money. aren't they just going to do it again five, 10 years from now? >> yeah. >> and i think there's a basic disagreement here. on one side of the equation are people who say, lo, ple ca spend mon fffielyha thu. gerent ca wehodntst aleit is10ilon- ahadewae. ayhat i sa, look, apple is apple is going to serve apple's interests.
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and there's a lot of things in america that we care about, people who are in need, dispossessed, that need things from the government that apple will not care about. >> roads, schools. >> so we need to give that money to the government and let them use it for what's right. >> but putting the money offshore to avoid taxes? >> well, last time it was taxed at 4%. so in a way it's helping to reward the tax avoidance. and companies that pay their taxes and bring it back are getting adincti. ithe yeven tt is mey me ckohe it stes th t del gerenwie ale fo>> in fact, the one argument they made is look, if you let us bring this back even at 5%, you're going to get $50 billion and at least that's something. you and use that as your infrastructure bank. it's better than nothing. >> but this whole thing about how the government can't track these people, it's not because the government is inept.
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it's because there is a distinct decision made politically by people who run congress that you're not going to put any money into enforcg the laws nto kepingrkf the op. 'sotik tshaened b acde, caepeleus dt owha eyer dn t'atre auas t ta liy i a sragyn trtf er >> all right. charles, your book by the way is "the power of habit." david, thank you as well. what's the power of habit? >> that's too compelling. i'm not going to let that go. and look at the cute little graphs. what is the power of habit? >> i'll have to come back and tell you. the science of habit formation, how habits work in lives and companies and what we have learned. >> i love it. >> does it teach us how to adopt
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good habits? >> not only that, butls orgazaon >> wilitea cpaes ayhe frha? im t rebo tt. at aigba iseduyanthk wteou >> i'll come back. i promise we'll solve that one. >> really? >> if you solve that one, we'll sell lots of books. >> you'll issbe eating like micl phelps. >> i love it. >> i am buying this book today, and we will have you book. coming up, the end of illness. a leading cancer specialist joining us with his new approach to modern medicine, and the simple tips to living a longer, healthier life. keep it right here on "morning joe." i oughan do this,
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35 past the hour. let's take a quick look at some of the morning papers. in "the financial times," secretary of state hillary clinton heads to china today as the two countries are on the verge of a political standoff. at issue, the fate of cheng
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cheng. he apparently scale aall an slipped pt dozens osecurity guards. > dwee wri aut cin ki u or? >headee daid h he r mntftki aordabtinsdby the chinese government >> and "the new york times," a milestone at one world trade center. construction expected -- they are building the tallest building in the manhattan, passing the empire state building. from "the los angeles times," a major study released yesterday finds that children and teens who develop type ii diabetes have a very difficult time controlling it despite a variety of methods to treat it. the study found that half of those diagnosed failed to g their blood sgar und contr with a fewyear a atne inivuer sio mpca reahepunext, a new yorker on
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which she calls a tragic force in iran. her first-hand look at that country's recent elections and the impact of international sanctions on the economy there. "morning joe" is back in a moment.
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te if"te upreme leader urged irani, but because it would be a slap in the face of the enemy. although the emphasis on foreign threats was surely heightened, the underlying message that voting was a show of the people's submission to the iranian state and not vice verse was not new. >> laura, the front page of "the new york times" this morning says after a season of hand wringing it looks like sanctions may be working. lk about atouawnd how th lesp thhayo lene >>wel,thanoa toisusthmctf satis t is beus teyll of what that's
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going to mean for iran and the regime while i was there was scrambling to make arrangements that would make up for that shortfall. so to some extent, we're sort of some ways out from that reality. on the other hand, the apprehension was very real. and some of the young economists and journalists that spoke with there wre qtecoinced th by te l e nctionwe t takeu hd, tat treou om seioerss >>ore aon tatas dr.ki circles. who is running iran right now? >> well, one thing you can be certain of is that the man who
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is known as the supreme leader, the ayatollah, is surely at the center of power in that country. the question of the revolutionary guard is a little bit more complex because they do have their hands on various different levers, military and economic. they have pretty big stake in the country's economy. >>does eupremeear ve thpor csshe reluony ar >>ccdi tth cotiti, ds. sear are more powerful. there is less hard evidence for that than we would need to make that determination. because constitutionally the supreme leader has the ability to replace the revolutionary guard and vice versa, the clerics are still at the top.
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there are people who would debate, and i'm not in a position to verify, that there are sort of coteries of revolutionary guard that have power behind the scenes that extends beyond those borrs. and at may maynot be true. bu i in tt ifts tre, athe ldehaalne hielwi tseacon weowit'srne 79 i think in some ways, this leader is -- he has a more autocrattic hand that comainy had. but he did tolerate a balance of political factions that he would kind of in a sort of -- he wuld counterbalance the factions agin ehher, and enure meaio that mabead aearha ihe poitalinitio. wldhr aanonhe sce r em
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>>todo . aplts of the sort of funnels of clerical influence. >> so why are the elections a tragic farce? what did you see? >> this election for parliament was the first election in iran since the 2009 presidential election. there was a city council election that was scheduled but it was postponed to coincide with the next presidtial, which is not until next ar. sohi ectn simportant foir f ttasn. isas tit me sinc peleam itohetrtsas yembein20for office who were sl
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more liberal minded and talking about democratizing the system from within, they have been pushed out. a lot of them are in prison, including former officials. the spectrum of debate now is as narrow as it has ever been under the islamic republic. >> at one point during your work there you were detained and interrogated. tell us about that. and how was that crrd out! i >>omnecctemy ralar d o t see an pleussi, luso ca e reak of fi the
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day of the election, they had confined the foreign media to buses. they were taking us on a bus tour of polling stations. this had never been done before. at about 2:00 in the afternoon, when most of the foreign reporters were saying we can't do this anymore, they were taking us to polling stations packed with iranian state media, and that was really the entire dynamic of the day. they said, ok, you can go back to your hotels but you're not alledo lea. so thoin u tour te. to tt manhcod lee teth btoou sot th wchast00 and about the kinds of questions i was
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think the thing they were most sensitive about was the economy. it was something that was sort of open for political discussion. this time it wasuite dierent, andha is cearly csef theanctio reme wchas ti t enomic situati an ts re seite teatna siatn. t heroemin om auay he news for you. actually in any country. >> i would be incarcerated for probably perpetually. infinite incarceration. up next, "the morning news" futbol report with roger bennett. you're watching "morning joe"
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george w. bush. it's great to be here in the ball room or what mitt romney would call an old fixer upper. >> if you told me i would be on the stage with president obama i would say the president's name is barack obama. >> remember when the country rallied around you in the hopes of a better tomorrow? that was laou elcome bckto "rng oe ve mrknd jn s. d ll hfu it more than i expected it to. he went there a couple of times and jimmy kimmal went there.
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>> the only laugh out loud moment was when he said the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, the pit bull tastes delicious. that was the joke of the night. >> there was a moment -- people did not laugh immediately. >> i was sitting there for a half a second and then was like d he e? >>t islstilntnd tn o. >>yoe mihee, ss. >> i don't know if he never got to do this before he was president of the united states. he enjoyed doing it so much. the fact that he enjoys it so
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much -- >> he telegraphs it and starts laughing. joking aside that's like a plank of hi platform iea og ey lkeai aut dos. hskard seth go myers was so good. his delivery is such that he rapid fires. he must have gotten off 100 jokes on this short set. >> it was very fast. he talks very fast. i thought about half way through i felt there were moments he was trying to get the jokes done. >> it's funny you say that because you have guys who are really funny in their own sort
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of realm that just collapse here. olrtadteible nh dn hveis cwdt ll ayenwa teib peleergang, me o t him didn't work there. i love jimmy kimmal. you laughed at some of them but other times he felt out of the element. >> there was a lot of inside humor. the president really, they think about those jokes really in terms of youtube because they know there are millions of people to watch the speech. they are playing for a big broad audience. a lot of comedians come and have joke writers that write inside jokes. >> can we do something? appearing at a fundraiser with the president last night, former president bill clinton attaced mt omy'scom
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ragi who mtiin roeyy nmelion ril ait rubcappen whwas wat w consequences you got before on steroids. the obama team is hoping to tap into clinton's wide network of donors. it is a relationship that was put on display last week when clinton was featured in a campaign web video touting president obama's leadership in the raid that killed osama bin laden oneyeaghiwk. >>hs eofhe rso demaasbene
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congratulated him for completing the mission in terms of killing osama bin laden. and he has managed to turn it into a divisive political attack that former defense secretary called sad, john mccain called shameful. i think most will see it as a sign of a desperate campaign. >> obama adviser gibbs says his death was a key moment. >>u fewea go esenobath cndat w w gthing. they wouldn't move heaven and earth to get osama bin laden. >> you are saying that president obama believes that a president romney if he was working in the
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counter terror realms of the government who came to him with intelligence saying we have the opportunity to kill osama bin laden you are saying president romney would not take that shot? >> i don't think he would. he criticized barack obama. nobody was a more high value target than oama bin lade i i fra eseof th llg osaa n den? ge onkisssgs bush did a video in an election year would go crazy. it would be the lead story every night. >> talked about this and they would find a wife of a navy seal who would say it hurts me that my husband went in and now
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george w. bush is exploiting. come on. >> i think it is fair game. >> i do think it's fair game. i think the standard i go to on this is gegeh. shho w thehhe wl cmeow nd fued tle plica virsevth if this mission had failed do we think mitt romney would be exploiting that for political gain? of course. the question answers itself. >> i think it is fair game but i'm surprised that there are not more questions raised about it even though i think it is fair game. >> they have this video about it and i understand there are going to be shows about it. they are going to have a tick talk. anthe whithouses i ink
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atompotmecaar gongotond s tyre rl pltih licl ishe aaofoi fa incredible. the ticktock of it is an incredible story. mitt romney there is an element of hypocrisy. the statements that the obama campaign is pointing out romney having made about diminishing the importance of getting osama bin laden. mccain attacked romney back in 2007 for that same statement and accusedomney of being weak for not phasizg h iortant it soet bin lad. tres t. tres aot back from war and
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you do heroic things you know what you don't do? you don't go down to the vfw and hold up your medal and say let me tell you what i did. there is a code. this is unseamly the president going around talking about this. >> mccain was we remember well he was very -- heevtuly onc coend dit wh kwshamcinou ialic be --
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>> and by the way that code, that is a code among democratic heroes that go to war and republican heroes that go to war. anyway so let it speak for itself because there are enough people that know what happened around that table, who know the predent made a really coageousecisionh everybyel aun tat tle w yiit wflyriky mr redet. hemathdeisn. o y leoe >pr b interesting when you think of the context of it, democratic president accusing a republican
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of being weak kneed. president obama is holding the cards on foreign policy. it's fascinating. did you see this front page article on apple and taxes. sunday new york times describing how amalong with other companies are taking advantage of the cotrs tax coe. ccdi tr etohe chgint mde or $iion inrotsnd p j th24% tax rate. 70% are allocated from overseas and in some cases the company set up a little more than a mail box in order to take advantage. here at home the company opened an office in nevada. >> it's not that far from silicon valley.
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quick bus ride. >> it helps because the corporate tax rate there is zero. in california the rate is nearly 9%. without taking advantge of ose mho which are complelyeg aplou ha pdn era$2biio intas lt a eomnyreond t t re wg ame p first half of fisca2 our u.s. operations have generated almost $5 billion in federal and state -- >> what do you think? >> i think that these large companies and there are many of them who are also getting together to try to get a tax repatriotings holidays i making out like band said and the
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ttle guy hts ultaty. thid ough co toetr d tyto coshe ooles. ato u think? >>thnkifi'ui om to go across the globe and find laws that are most advantageous to my company and to my workers and also to the share holders. but it's like the g.e. story. this tax fairness issue really does ring a bell for americans. >> it does. i think the story tells you how successful and important apple has become. they a always shopping fo tax advante. iss ttant t ale beg-- they a a taetow caeheha ceosufut'ivteit kind of
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happen in the states. there is almost a war within the states. >> we definitely see it here in the tristate area. chris christy almost goating. we saw it more. they get along well now. malloy feeling like he needed to raise taxes in connecticut. christy saying come down to new jersey. there is a lot of forums. >> you should pay that state's taxes. to have a mailox elshere you tnkth'sfar? y dot. d' pmaesenis n iwit i >> there are guys in sil valley that can help you with
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that. >> i think that is what bugs people the most is that i make good money here. you can make good money and still not be able to do what the multimillionaires and billionaires are able to do. you have enough attorneys and account that can figure out a way. if i'm not mistaken every year i pay like 35%. i hadomuy say youhld maket s ur co i pilgasnsadf saar hoott? >>theor >> mitt romney's people could help you out. >> once you have this money you just make money off investments and not by getting up at 4:00 every morning and your tax rate goes down.
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it's kind of crazy. if you were fortunate enough to live in abby and you inherited your money and just make investments then you have a 15% tax rate. if you have to wake up in the morning and go to work -- >> i think i hearcaling forn incase inhe cit gin te >> aneherynwh min heor kealso ahead we'll talk to the world's leading cancer doctors about his advice for disease prevention. first, bill karens with a check on the forecast. we are now in the peak of our tornado season. so far this april been relatively tame. now as we head into may who knows what the cards hold?
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one of the jobs is to keep track of all the hilary rosen's. hilary rosen is the one who said ann romney never worked a day in her life. her name appeared on the white
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house visitor log 35 times. when reporters asked why her name showed up 35 times he said he wasn't sure it was the same hilary rosen. hea psollno tre la os's sem?eoalf t hla d y garden. i bet you $10,000 you don't know three hilary rosens but i'm not running for president. >> the author of the book, "manning up" how the rise of women has turned men into boys. she wrote a piece on why women make less than men. arweeayn heidof menas aenr
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and that women are unlikely to be the richer sex. 20% of women earn more but most are likely to cut back hours after kids giving men the hours and income advantage. that you think is the bottom line? >> that's an important component but it's not the whole story. there are other issues like occupational choices. women tend to go into lower payingfields. >> itinrein tnksabu tkeboho me tndomeal di athobe come home
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and flop and can't focus. >> men just flop and can't focus at all. you need to talk to susan. >> big leather chair, beer gut and a television. >> i have seen those ads. i know how productive you are. >> i think a lot of women in the workforce who have children are so concerned and they overcompensateorhang children and wrk rdnd wo oous. >>th culbe ofwh y aeringise men work? >> why is that? >> i think because of the kids. as you read in the piece women in their 20s are now single
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childless women in their 20s are earning more than single childless men. that says they have the education and experience to do it. >> absolutely. >> once the kids come they tend to cut back. >> 70% of the valedictorians were women. ey hve e le a ucio >> whiinbt bng tvaorn. ts reus us t s fathers should take equal responsibility. women still put in more hours on the domestic front. >> can't legislate that and not going to happen. >> if you have 40% of all babies born to unmarried mothers who is going to be sharing? >> let's talk about a couple of
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solutions. there are a couple of things you bring up. first of all, the black berry which is the bane of my childr's existnce. i wouayould tomy ofcend tke pheal hee. ha'sru f won,to e eso mny h pyi number two, look what our friend, joe, does where you have child care. it's amazing companies can be a lot more aggressive with flex time and taking care of moms. >> there is no question that businesses have had to adapt to the influx of women into the work place and they are doing it. they have to have more flexibility and they have to have what some people refer to as offramps to allow women to
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leave and come back to wo. i don thinkthesver a me whets sote ua fo vio ansnef hit'si , % work these hours. about 30% of all married mothers are out of the workforce completely. that's 30%. >> and i think, also, when they step out to have children it is hard. you talked about the on and off ramps. it is very hard. one of my closest friends is trying to deal with this seven or eight years after having children it is almost impossible to get back in. >> that's one of the issues that a lot of management people are concernedabout,how ty can ea a eiwaoromen o ve t wk r ye
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trmabeeanhe me weyi hithey can structure it. it's going to vary from business to business. >> what do you tell women because i have had this conversation at my house. my wife had a great job, great career, worked for a decade her whole life and we had conversations. we said one of us probably is going to have to leave the workforce at least for a while. what do you tell a woman like that? givg it away am iosing all? >> tinkou ll em t beprtycoidt ath wod ae ak u o i ga. ry w the work place is as flexible
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ozpossible. there is a lot of pressure on businesses to adapt and they are doing their job. this is an issue in every developed country in the world even the place like sweden where it is supposedly kpeet complet. even in gender utopia it's not working out so well. >> thank you so much. >> i would love to have youome ck andte boyo bok. >> aea tovr. i kn s tat t miss next on "morning joe." thank you very much. itchin ers di
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