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matthews in washington. the two americas, the rich and the poor americas. let me start with the edwards that's a bigger issue now and trial and this waste of time, here he is joining the fight money, and i believe public again. attention. he has not been found guilt on >> i knew him when he first came one charge, the jury deadlocked into town, i was one of the on all the rest. i have questioned this case first people to break bread with since day one. this is what we see in him, and i said he is a charming guy, but he is so veered off developing countries. i don't like the fact that a into the land of creepy self republican prosecutor, a hold over, brought this case against edwards and then went to run for congress and won the primary. i'm happy to see a case as we dilution. have here brought for taking i'm watching a car crash of campaign gifts that may not have been seen as campaign gifts when crazy politics here. the supreme court declared now the fact that he took the time that corporations and individuals can now gi unlimited to wave the story of his children, including the one with campaign cash. the mistress, the one he had with me now are people who may or may not agreement. while his wife was dieing of cancer, that he will weave that pete williams, and savanna guthrie. thank you for joining me. into the story of the poor you're the ones i look to for people of the world, and i will
be the pied piper leading the legal understanding i have my own gut beliefs obviously. here he is after the juror let mer americas and the children of the out. world together, that was so here is some of the first things beyond any level of self he said. >> thank you for the jurors and awareness as to be almost path logical. their incredibly hard work and did i make myself clear? >> i think you did. their diligence. >> it just, sometimes the they took their job very, very shameless -- the shamelessness seriously. of public figures, especially as we saw both during the trial, politicians, is astounding to the attention they paid to the evidence during the trial, the me. you have to have a certain evil presentation to the lawyers, and the fact they have now spent of shamelessness to be in public life and to run for office. nine almost nine full days deliberating trying to reach a to do that in this o was just mind boggling. fair and just result under the i'm sorry, it's mind boggling. evidence of the law. >> you have never been better at all i can say is thank goodness this country has the system it exmaining political thinking. it's all ego. >> how do i use this opportunity has. i think those jurors were an to reestablish my career. example of what juries are >> he could have gone away for supposed to do. 30 years and just beat the rap >> there you have a well thought and he declared himself innocent out call of the jurors that just
sprung him. >> i must say i seldom heard and ready for political work again. >> late me weave that story in anybody found not guilty to say there -- >> we're running along watching thank you for the jury. the parade of these big egos >> have you heard of hung jury on five of the six counts giving coming down main street, and it's amazing. >> this is a long road to a salute for greatness? redemption, i have no doubt they could not reach an about that, but it did start on the right track. agreement that he is applauding. he made a statement close to an >> when you're a defendant allocution, and he has to worry about what the department of anything but a conviction you're thank you for. justice will do next. >> savanna, i thought it was an it seems crazy to me they would example why he was such a great waste more resources. i think the case has been a trial lawyer. >> i thought it had the right waste from the get go, but -- >> i think i know why he was tone, you did not see him doing a victory dance, he did not call good in a courtroom of regular out the prosecutors, he made it people. we see a huge ego unleashed and he can direct that to an imon clear he did not think he committed any crimes, but he your side thing. >> he was a fantastic courtroom made it clear that he had many lawyer. sips and much to atone for. i don't know what court he so i think there is no way to thought he was speaking to there. i think he thinks it's the court look at this day as anything of voters in a future place and
other than a victory. there is the possibility that as time, that he will use his pay. to those five counts that the >> i know who he is talking to. judge had to declare a mistrial >> you know who? to, the prosecutors have the bunny mellon. option to bring the changes his contributors that have given him a lot of money in the past. again, retry him, and pete may i'm going to help the poor, and that is the thing he has to go know more about this than i, it to. there is reason to exist seems rather unlikely that the politically, he had to go to department of justice will that tonight and he did it. continue with the prosecution out there, it only takes one out given how controversial this was of ten, but they have a lot of to begin with. money and he is back in they will take a hard look at it, but it seems less than business. thank you howard feinman. likely they will decide to go he is not talking to you or me. forward. >> singing the praises of the more on the edwards' trial. jurors is one way of saying listen, these guys took this it could be the end of the game seriously, this was as good of a for all of the prosecution break as you will get. don't come back at it and find a against this guy. johnny's come marching home again. so you brushed with colgate total and you didn't. stupider jury or something else. >> i have no doubt that's his hope, and there may be truth to that that this was the best the prosecution could work for. they did a good job, the judges
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say just a word about, is just a shorm time ago. >> the second thing i want to say just a word about, is responsibility. and this is about me. i want to make sure that responsibility. and this is about me. i want to make sure that everyone hears from me and from everyone hears from me and from my voice that i never thought i was doing my voice that while do i not anything illegal. i did an awful, awful lot that think i did anything illegal or thought i was doing anything was wrong. and there is no one else illegal, i did an awful lot that responsible for my sins. was wrong. and there is no one else >> welcome back to "hardball." responsible for my sins. it's been asked many times what sex got to do with it? the jury today answered, not >> wow, hampton dellinger joins much. mark halpern and author of "the us now. what did you think hampton? we want to talk a bit about the page" and melinda hennenberger personal confession that he writes she the people blog and in the courtroom covering the managed here, it's hard to argue edwards trial. she is a big "washington post" as if anybody wanted to argue. columnist. let me ask you both. i've been trying to think about i adopt think anybody disagreed the angles of this trial as it there. >> right, and his audience i seems to be concluding at least in first round with the acquittal and one count and the
think was the justice hung jury on rest, mark. department. he still faces exposure. the jury did something again they can seem a retrial. that probably should make us feel good. they were able to separate out the questions of the law. he's not out of the woods yet they did have a hard time and this was a gooden deciding the decision. but basically, it looked like opportunity for federal prosecutors to get a conviction. they weren't being driven by the sexual aspects of this whole they have all of the evidence matter. >> chris, the jurors probably against edwards and they didn't don't follow the issue of prosecutoral discretion the way get a conviction. you and i do. i don't think there's any doubt he had more success today as a that when we hear from them they're going to say what you defendant than as a politician and i believe which is this case should never have been brought. in 2008. >> how would you judge his whatever you think of john defense? edwards in terms of how he i have a sense he did as good of conducted himself, it is a a job as you could in a ridiculous case under law and common sense to prosecute. difficult situation giveen how i think the jurors felt that strong the judge was with these way. if the prosecutors don't decide instructions. >> it was bril ynt. i think you can look back now to retry, my guess is they'll and say that fairly. treat that jury as a focus fist of all what a risk to take group. when they hear about separating this case to trial. out the personal from the legal, i bet you they don't try to edwards had every reason to bring the case again. >> melinda, your thoughts? pursue this case. i haven't heard from you lately. we talked in the past. what's your sense of what the then abby keeping edwards off jury's action today in the acquittal on the one matter
the stand, you know he wanted to where it looked like they said get up there, but abby knew he couldn't have been a campaign had just enough to get a not contribution. it was given after the campaign guilty verdict, enough about the was over. and then the rest and there may federal election commission, not seeing this as a civil have been holdouts. they couldn't reach a conviction on any of the other matters. >> well, i think that to me if violation, abby lowell destroyed they had all believed this was a ridiculous case that should never have been brought, they wouldn't have spent nine days, andrew young's credibility, and i think ultimately this case nine, long days in that room goes away. thinking about it. >> in all the old tv shows we and obviously taking it very watch like the good wife, there seriously. so i don't know that it was is always a sense that you don't certainly his gamble paid off to put your defendant in the put on a pretty bare bones courtroom on the stand then they are hiding something. i think the jurors are more defense. it was the case they had. sophisticated and they don't they seemed to have done their best to treat it seriously. make that judgment. i think there was a very much a >> they get an instruction saying you're not allowed to way to believe that he was hold it against the defendant guilty in the case without it that they chose not to deaf. being about, you know, punishing most jurors want to hear from the defendant, but they made a for being a cab, as you said decision that putting him on before. >> let me challenge you on.
would have been far worse than this it seems to met judge in whatever jurors might have this case and the prosecutors were trying to do a couple thought or held against him for things. they wanted the jury to make not testifying and the reason is law. there rarely hadn't been a case simple. the way the case went to the something like this before. they wanted them to judge the guy guilty even though the fec jury, the real credibility had a case involving nevada and issues surrounded andrew young. they said it was wnt campaign this would have been a one laws. and also they raised the bar or witness case. the jurors would have looked at lowered it by saying all you have to do is prove part of the intention of making the him, decided if he was believable, and that was it. contribution was political. even with that, the jury they made a game time decision couldn't reach the agreement to that said it's better to focus convict. >> and they built their case on the weakness as opposed to around a liar. >> maybe they did. putting our guy on the chopping maybe the case should never have been brought. but that's the case this jury block so they can spend three days excoriating him on the had. they took it seriously. and they obviously, since they did lock on five of the charges, witness stand. >> yes, and if you're going to found that it wasn't clear one way or the other. basically say that the emperor but if i could go back just for has no clothes here, the a minute to what you were saying government has a lousy case, earlier, i had such a different take listening to john edwards when he was coming out of the then you make that statement by saying look, we'll do the minimum we need to. courthouse. i don't think he at all was
this is a lousy case, we're not making the case for i want to putting our guy on. get back in the political game. what john edwards said about he wants redemption which anyone taking responsibility for his bhaf is what he said just before in his case would -- in his the trial started. situation would want. he tried to send that message and i actually listened to him even though i do think he was then saying don't judge me by my guilty under the judge's personal life. make your decision based on the instructions. i actually had kind of a evidence of the law. >> i thought the prosecution, it sympathetic response to him where, of course, he wanted to say something to and about his wasn't great in the o.j. simpson case, their mistake was letting children, especially about quinn it go on for months and months who he had denied. this is a child he denied his own flesh and blood. to me the most natural thing in months. if they had confidence and the world to want to say to the evidence they could have done it world, i actually really love in rock solid fashion. this child. and i'm going to try to use the they didn't do it and it took rest of my time on this planet too long. to do something worth while. here is john edwards tonight right after coming out of court i did not hear, you know, an announcement for political life. and beating the rach by getting >> okay. we'll see. thank you. i disagree. thank you, melinda. one acquittal and five counts of his trial. i think this guy is a shrewed this is open to a lot of trial lawyer. mark, do you agree?
interpretation. here is john edwards talking >> i they he's a shrewed trial about his future. >> i don't think god is through lawyer but i think that was humanity. if he cares about what the people in washington and new york think about him, he would have been better off not making a statement at all or not making with me. i think there are good things ki a statement like. that i don't think it will be still do, and whatever happens particularly well received. >> gri. >> thank you so much. with this legal stuff, what i'm when we return, let me fin wisht hopeble about is all of those birth of my granddaughter julian. kids i have sewn in the poorest it happened in the last few days. you're watching "hardball," they parts of this country and some of the poorest places in the tl she, is. world, that i can help them. and whatever way i'm still capable of helping them. and i want to dedicate my life to being the best dad i can be, and to helping those kids who i think deserve help. >> i think there is a plan for the guy here if he gets through this and not get another trial. able to walk free. looks like he will do what he was talking about was begin an institute, what he calls the two americas. >> that could be.
chris, i'm sure we're not going to see down here in north carolina john edwards on the ballot again, but is this most of all he wants to practice law. that was thought to be a key as a home, there are things i'm supposed to do. reason why he refused to plea like, keep one of these over your head. because it would have cost his well, i wasn't "supposed" to need flood insurance, law license. he's not just a famous but i have it. fred over here chose not to have it. politician, but a famous lawyer to stand trial . ♪ me, i've got a plan. fred he uh... fred what is your plan? he made his career as a lawyer. i think he will be volunteering do i look like i have a plan? and offering legal services in not really. north carolina. >> let me ask you about that. [ female announcer ] only flood insurance covers floods. do you think -- i mean he made for a free brochure, call the number on your screen. his name as a great lawyer, i heard that one of the things he would not accept at part of a plea bargain, they wanted him to ♪ lord, you got no reason give up his law license. ♪ you got no right >> which would be common for a ♪ lawyer in a criminal case. ♪ i find myself at the wrong place ♪ [ male announcer ] the ram 1500 express. i guess the question is if he ♪
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could ever imagine. and i am so close to and so, so grateful for. so grateful for quinn. i'm grateful for all my children. >> what do you make of that hampton? >> national television. >> john edwards, sure. i think that's a normal response. john edwards now may be best known as a father. he took an incredible risk to go to trial when he is the sole living parent for two young children and two pre teens sharing custody with quinn. i think his decision not to put his daughter kate edwards was made by the father. so i think for him to define hi himself as a father is perfectly understandable. >> do you think this is something he had to do personally because he had not
done it before? >> it's like something out an old novel where the father where he has a child through wedlock makes a formal statement of parenthood in an unusual way. it struck me as very literary. you don't see this. i can't think of another case in my life where someone went on national television and said i am the parent. >> at bottom, this case came out of her birth, and out of the affair that proceeded it. you know, it was an incredibly let me finish with someone who just started in this life, tawdry case. a lot of that came out on the stand in favor of the julia matthews came into this world this tuesday in the hour government's prosecution theory. just before dawn. she is healthy and beautiful and it's understandable to me that has a glow about her. he would address it. i have no way of knowing what he embraced kate edwards, his lies ahead for julia only that she will spend her life in this parents were here every day, i 21st century perhaps right think it will be the defining through until the end of it. she will have great parents, role of the rest of his life. he can still be a good staur and sarah and michael, a loving aunt in caroline and a doting uncle
in thomas. she'll have in kathleen and i -- father and start that process today. >> thank you for getting the devoted parents of her parents. factual information from the we're very fortunate and thank legal and political end. you so many of you for you have been a great reporter recognizing that and sharing in our celebration. hampton, for the good of john thank you. that's "hardball" for now. edwards, i hope i don't see you thanks for being with us. for awhile. good evening, americans. we could be back on this case in a matter of days. welcome to the show from new york. republicans are resorting to savanna guthrie has to go work dirty tricks to win the 2012 to work for nbc. election. early on they are. but now election officials in more on the edward's trial florida are standing up against coming up, we have the politics governor rick scott's attempt to on this trial. what it means for the man that purge the voter roles. this is the hottest story in came so close to 30 years in america. we'll show why you florida is prison or a couple years ago to the focus of the gop's voter being president of the united states and a few years before suppression plan. that being the president of the this is "the ed show." united states. he could have been a contender, let's get to work. the republican party in this is "hardball," place for florida admitted there is a "politicsnation" opinion problem with this system. the data isn't accurate. >> florida republicans actually people measure commitment by what's getting done. admit their voting purging system is flawed. i'm mike utsler, and it's my job to make sure we keep making an election supervisors are progress in the gulf.
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the john edwards trial. the jury found him not guilty on one count. let's go to two of our big heavy weights. we have chuck todd and john heilmann. he wrote the cover story on the obama campaign strategy, that's what we were going to talk about but we have to talk about this. bring us back for this. those covering him in 2004 in those small rooms in iowa and in new hampshire, he was a force to be reckoned with. it was emotional, populism like never heard before, and now here he is facing 30 years he was facing today and he is still free. >> let's not forget if bob had gotten his way in 2000, it would have been gore verses edwards. he was one of the short listers
in 2000. >> that ticket might have won. >> it might have. he really made his stamp, put his stamp on his early career for democrats. that sort of is where he became a dc rising star winning that senate seat. so this was a guy on the fast track in the minute he essentially that gore didn't win and he didn't get picked, i think it was two months into president bush's first term that john edwards made his first visit to iowa. he was on the fast tract, and maybe just a week away from momentum in 2004, he could have one the 2004 iowa caucuses. >> go ahead, john heilmann he was always one of those guys
good in a room of 200 people. that speech he gave about ten or twenty minutes ago. the resilience, it may not be electoral life, but it sounded like it to me. >> if he thinks he has an electoral future he is more diluted than he has been in the past. he he was great in iowa, and that came from his roots. he was a tremendous attorney, a great plaintiff's attorney, he made himself a rich man by tugging on the heart strings of jurors in north carolina. he used those skills to great effect politically as chuck said in the senate and then in his race in 2004. that volted himself into that second place finish in 2004 in iowa, that made him attractive. but as we wrote in game change, it was that moment that things
really started to change for john edwards in a bad way. he went from a guy that was one of the nicest most genuine humble people in politics to being a ego maniac. he started to believe he could get away with anything and that lead to 2007 and 2008. >> i remember covering him in sioux city, can there was not a piece of paper -- >> he was not a reader. >> he didn't read anything. >> you talk to people, it was surprising, he was a skimmer, get top line information. the more you got to know him as a political candidate, the less impressed you got for those of us that covered him. you would stlit and you could tell the coverage of edwards was great at first, and then as reporters watched him, you could
tell there is not a lot there, he may be only a inch deep on specific policy issues. it wasn't clear what motivated him or what his passion was other than to get elected. i always thought this saga, there is an element that none of us can understand unless you've lost a child. the reason i will still have sympathy a little for him is no one knows what it's like to lose a child. when they lost a child, john and elizabeth edwards changed. whatever happened between the two of them, nothing was ever the same. >> pause on that. that happens to people who lose children, it does something tragic to the rupp that's common and it's horrible. >> look at everything that happened in their lives and then they decided to have two more children. everything changed in their lives. and so as much as -- and i think a little of what edwards did
today was a little creepy, going as pub lib as he did. i was uncomfortable watching him. i thogt we don't want to hear from you, just say thank you to the jury, thank your daughter kate who has been unbelievable back there and go home. we don't want to hear a speech. >> and especially chuck was hearing him talk about quinn. nobody be grudges the father love for a daughter, but to talk about the child that was the result of the affair that got him into this place, i thought that was the weirdest moment to me. i don't be grudge him loving that daughter, but it was weird to see him on the steps of that courthouse where he -- it was weird the way he emphasized his love for quinn and then backed up and say i love all of my
children. >> let's listen to that for the people tuning in now. it was one of those moments, lobby kennedy used to say land a lantern on your problem. he did what you're supposed to do in politics, when you're caught admit it because they already know you're guilty. here he is going through that procedure. here he is. >> my precious quinn. who i love more than any of you could ever imagine. and i am so close to and so, so grateful for. so grateful for quinn. i'm grateful for all of my children. >> well, that's quite a scene, your thoughts, no more political career for him? even if he beats this in another trial? >> no, and i think the reminder
is just how hard criminalizing campaign finance and these laws. that's the real world listen here. john edwards does not have a political career. the fact that he's desperate to get into public life still and from what i understand what he is saying, that's what he wants. he ought to go. >> he reminds me of a trial you read about around the world these kinds of trials they hold when you lose, the guys who win president you up for trial, it's just really tawdry, the whole thing. i never like the smell of this case. thank you chuck todd and john heilmann. more on the trial as we continue to program. and why do voters, here the jurors, push back when there is a sex scandal involved. they don't want to hear about it or think about it. we saw all during the clinton era, the voters don't want to
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hour fineman is a director if r the washington post, and ken gross is a former general council of the election commission. let me start with ken. the fec said this was not a campaign contribution. why are we trying a case that would require making new law as a process of a verdict. >> you got me, i don't understand why this case was brought in the first place. there was no clear standard here. >> now we have the irony pointed out by pete williams an hour ago. unlimited campaign contributions through the super pac door, it's like when they changed the drinking age from jersey for 21 to 18. i think it's impossible to know, at least, until we talk to the jurors. i think the fact that there is
such a huge flood of money, secret and open now going into applicants as part of citizens united and politics, it made the whole thing seem even more houseling to the jurors. not just the lack of legal theory, but the act will of any perspective on the part of the prosecutors. why are you doing this when there is so much more big and important going on if you're worried about politics. >> how many murders need to be tried, can't that put this to some use and prosecutorial ability. here is something we have to cover. here is john edwards saying today about his future and he says he has one, and it sowns like he thinks he has a political future a all this. look at this. >> i don't think god is through with me. i really believe he thinks there is still some good things i can do. and whatever happens with this
legal stuff going forward, what i'm hopeful about is all of the kids i have seen in the poorest parts of this country and in some of the poorest places in the world, they can help them. in whatever way i'm still capable of helping them. and i want to dedicate my life to being the best dad i can be and to helping those kids who i think deserve help. >> howard, you know, i'm not a cruel person, but i am an observant person. i think he used this opportunity that he knew he would get on cable and network television to make a pitch. so he smartly said, okay, the jury is genius because they let me off, and of course i committed all of these sins because everybody knows i did, and here is my chance to make a pitch for a political future.