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obama, can they translate the enthusiasm we saw today into votes? plus the jury now has the sandusky case, but the jurors don't know the latest two pieces of explosive news about this matter. buzz bisinger will join us. and the debate over eric holder and fast and furious has moved to the front pages. the conservative base is thrilled. so why has the republican leadership been treating this story like it's kryptonite? and let me finish tonight to my home made solution to america's obesity crisis. we start with outsourcing jobs at bain capital. joan walsh and michael sheir. mitt romney says he'll help bring homes back from overseas. but that wasn't always the case. a damning new report from the washington post today lays out clearly how invested romney's firm bain capital was in
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companies that outsourced jobs including to china. quote, during the nearly 15 years that romney was actively involved in running bain, it owned companies that were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the united states to overseas call centers and factories making computer components according to the filings with the sec. is this going to stick? i ask this question because bain has already been an issue. in the beltway, you hear people say that they didn't play so well, yet out in middle america and in focus groups i think you get a different reaction. what would be the reaction to this? >> i think we're at the beginning of this conversation. mitt romney so far sticking to his line which is i have experience in the private sector. he doesn't want to go beyond that to discuss specifically what he did at bain. the obama campaign is looking to hit them over and over again all through the summer. they have had some success in these swing states doing this. i think this is is just another piece of doing this. romney will have to establish a
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difference in his time in 234e private sector. i think everybody admits here it was about lowering the cost of products and increasing profits. and what he plans to do when he comes into office which is not outsourcing jobs despite what chicago is sort of saying right now. that vote for mitt romney is a vote for offshoring more jobs. he doesn't want to have that discussion, but i think it's going to have to happen at some point. >> well, the president was quick to respond to the post's story. he was in tampa this afternoon. let's take a look. >> today it was reported in "the washington post" that the companies his firm owned were pioneers in the outsourcing of american jobs to places like china and india. pioneers. let me tell you tampa, we do not need an outsourcing pioneer the the oval office. we need a president who will
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fight for american jobs and fight for american manufacturing. that's what my plan will do. >> and romney's campaign responded. quote, this is fundamentally flawed story that does not differentiate between domestic outsourcing versus offshoring nor versus work done overseas to support u.s. exports. as president he will implement policies that make it easier and more attractive for companies to create jobs here at home. joan walsh, that's a lot to follow. that's a confusing issue. is that going to wash? >> no. it's an intentionally confusing statement. i think you can see that. the problem for the romney campaign is that the post story is very explicit that this was -- they're talking about offshoring. it is true that outsourcing can be proving jobs out of a company to another firm that does it cheaper in the united states. and that does happen.
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but the post is very careful to delineate the firms that bain invested in whose business model essentially was offshoring technology jobs. so i think -- i agree with michael. the obama campaign has had some success already with bain. top strategists seem a little uncomfortable with it. you've got the problem of wall street democrats not sure how hard they want to hit private capital -- private equity firms. i think it is resonating with voters. you've got a hypocrisy problem. because you've got mitt romney actually saying one of the few things -- one of the few concrete things he says is he's going to pick a fight with china. and we've got examples of how he works to send american jobs to china. >> michael sheir -- >> i think this is going to stick with them. >> how about the argument you'll hear i suspect from romney and supporters that his job was not the same as the job he seeks.
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his job was to make money as a business leader. he's got an all different job description should he become the president. >> that is the argument. implicit in that is someone who has worked in me private sector who understands why companies are shipping jobs overseas will have an advantage over the current president. i think that's the turf on which we're going to be playing this out. i don't think it's a situation in which romney can get through this election i was once a business man or the president can say mitt romney was once a businessman, therefore, he wants to take your job and send it to china. neither of those will wash. the discussion is going to be about whether the actual proposals mitt romney has and the actual proposals that barack obama has will lead the country to the future that more voters want. and that's the turf on which we're going to play this out. >> joan, when bain was last an issue, when the charge was one of vulture capitalism, there were a number of democrats who spoke out of turn. cory booker comes to mind.
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i can't see a responding circumstance when the issue is outsourcing, can you? >> no, i really can't because -- and also to get back to what michael was saying about the debate between their proposals. mitt romney also wants to slash taxes on corporations' foreign operations. there are actually lots of ways for the obama administration to say this is very much about his proposals as president and that his experience at bain really did shape the way he looks at the economy and he's coming into office. if he gets into office with that mind set, which is really about how to help rich people make more money and really leaves american workers out of the equation. >> to that end, romney frequently invokes his time at bain to suggest he would be a better leader on the economy. he says he knows how jobs are created and what causes them to leave. >> i spent my life in private enterprise. 25 years. i know how businesses work. i know what causes them to leave and what will bring them back.
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i want to use that experience to get america working again for me it's all about good jobs for the american people. and a bright and prosperous future. >> and the president focuses his attack on romney and bain recently on the issue of outsourcing. here was an ad that the campaign put out just yesterday. >> running for governor, mitt romney campaigned as a job creator. >> i know how jobs are created. >> but as a corporate raider, he shipped jobs to china and mexico. as governor, he did the same thing. outsourcing state jobs to india. now, he's making the exact same pitch. >> i know why jobs come and why they go. >> outsourcing jobs. romney economics. it didn't work then and it won't work now. >> michael sheir, strange thing. i saw that was reviewed by the post, which had the story today and it was the recipient of several pinocchios, so it seems within "the washington post," they can't get it together as to
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the accuracy of those charges. >> i think you can say the story was accurate and the ad was false. i don't think they're the same thing. there is an argument here. you could have surrogates for democrats defending this. would come on and say there are benefits to this sort of comparative advantage of allowing other countries to produce things cheaper if they can produce it cheaper. we're able to then buy the products cheaper. we'll have more money to spend. there are arguments to defend that is not really a good word in this election, the creative destruction of capitalism. what romney is saying in the clips you just played was my job as president will be different from my job as the private sector businessman. my job will be to create jobs. i'm going to use the experience from my private sector days, but my job as president is not going to be what my job at bain was which was to increase returns for my shareholders. >> joan walsh, it seems the obama campaign all too happen
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foi make this a referendum on bain. >> you've got axelrod calling mitt romney the outsourcer in chief and the revelations about china give that whole line of reasoning a lot of new life. >> thank you. we appreciate your being here. coming up, president obama gets a spirited welcome from the same latino group that spent a lot of times sitting on its hands for mitt romney yesterday. that's ahead. this is "hardball," the place for politics. what makes the sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. they say, "well, if you wanted a firm bed you can lie on one of those. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. wow, that feels really good!
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call or click today. we should have passed the dream act a long time ago. it was written by members of both parties. when it came up for a vote a year and a half ago, republicans in congress blocked it. the bill hadn't changed. the need hadn't changed. the only thing that had changed was politics. >> welcome back to "hardball." president obama kept up the heat on congress today speaking before the national association of latino and elected officials. it's the same event where mitt romney addressed this key constituency yesterday. the president made reference to romney's visit, including a pause for dramatic effect. >> your speaker from yesterday has a different view. in a speech, he said that when he makes a promise to you, he'll keep it. well, he has promised to veto the dream act and we should take
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him at his word. i'm just saying. >> president obama needs latino vote to be motivated in november. their turnout could be key to his re-election and that's really what today's speech was all about. david korn is an msnbc political analyst and author of the book "showdown." erin, does it seem like the president did what he needed to do to energize that constituency today? >> for the most part, yes, at least in comparison to mitt romney yesterday. but president obama simply said that he would sign a dream act if it made it to his desk, which deals with a smaller portion of the nation's illegal immigrants.
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not all 11 million of them. we heard from republicans today who said that while president obama continued to support the dream act, he didn't go much further. it energizes the latino community to a certain degree, but not 100%. he's been saying his door has been open for three and a half years if congress would like to work with him, but a lot of republicans started chiding him today saying that's not enough and doesn't show a ton of leadership. >> to state the obvious, 9% of those who came out to vote in '08, if that gets boosted to 10, 11, 12%, there in would lie the margin of victory in a close race overall. >> yes. if you compare mitt romney's speech to barack obama's speech today, it's like comparing mayonnaise to salsa. now, mayonnaise is fine. it has some binding properties to it, but barack obama spoke to this crowd as if he understood them and more importantly, shared their values. he talked about comprehensive immigration reform, those across
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the rio grande, as being part of the great american story. he talked about justice. he talked about a lot of thipgs mitt romney couldn't do and i think he was specific in saying he did try to pass the dream act and that also his door is open to comprehensive immigration reform that he has voted for in the past and it's republicans who can't see their way through the threshold anymore. >> the difference in the reaction from the latino crowd from romney yesterday and obama today was obvious. first let's look at president obama's wrapup today. >> america was built by people who said something different. who said yes, we can. who said [ speaking in foreign language ] and as long as i have the privilege of being your president, i will be fighting
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alongside you fighting for the country that we together dream of. god bless you. thank you. god bless the united states of america. ♪ >> and the reaction to governor romney's speech was much more muted. it's easy to select iively edit these things but this was one of romney's bigger applause lines. >> as president, i won't settle for stopgap measures. i'll work with republicans and democrats to build a long-term solution. and i'll prioritize measures -- i will stand for a path to legal status for anyone who's willing to step up and defend this great nation through military service. thank you so much. and god bless this great land. thank you. >> these reactions are born out in a new poll of latino voters in battle ground states that show president obama with a huge
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lead. 74% to 18% in arizona. colorado 70-22. florida 53-37. virginia 59-28. erin mcpike, what drives these numbers? the economy? the immigration issue? a combination of both? >> oh, it's certainly a combination of both. and of course president obama used much of his speech to talk about his economic vision versus mitt romney. of course that's part of it. those polls you show are largely in the west and florida and virginia where president obama is generally doing better. i would point out, though, that the population of illegal immigrants and voters where mitt romney took his bus tour were in the midwest where the population is smaller. and mitt romney is doing better in some of those other states. so, yes, this is where this election is going to be litigated. president obama and his team think that they are in much better shape in the west where they have an advantage with this group versus mitt romney, who
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thinks he's got a path of victory through the midwest. >> david, we're a week after the president's executive order relative to the children of illegals and still a lack of specificity from the romney campaign on that issue. >> romney is boxed in in a way i can't think or recall a modern presidential candidate being boxed in. during the primary campaign, as the president noted today, he promised the veto the dream act, but also had a very clear policy on undocumented immigrants. you have to leave. you have to go home. even if places that may not be your home. so once you say that, you really take yourself out of the equation when it comes to coming up with any long-term plans, which is why he couldn't define what his long-term solution is and when you're not in favor of the directive the president came up with last week, it sends a signal to people, if you're not going to help the children who were brought here through no
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fault of your own, why are are you going to do that? to pander to people who a lot of latinos believe don't like them. it's a threshold issue. if you can't help that part of this population, they're going going to listen to you because they think you're in league with or you yourself don't care much for this part of the american community. put that all together, michael, and i don't think he can recover from this. it's not a fatal wound. it's an untreatable wound. >> erin, when mitt romney spoke to latino group yesterday, a lot of people expecting him to give a specific response to the president's executive order i just reverenced. here's how he handled it. >> some people have asked if i will let stand the president's executive order. the answer is that i will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the president's temporary measure. as president, i won't settle for stopgap measures. >> not very specific and so today, the obama campaign put out a web video complete with the sound of a ticking stopwatch
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in the background pointing out how many days have passed without a response from romney. >> you said this is just the short-term solution to a long-term problem. but would you repeal this order if you became president? >> well, let's step back and look at the issue. >> what would you do about it? would you repeal this? i won't keep on about this but to make sure i understand, would you leave this in place while you worked out a long-term solution or would you just repeal it? >> we'll look at that setting as we reach that. >> can leave you scratching your head wondering why a man who wants to be president can't tell us a little bit more about what he would actually do. >> erin, where do you see this issue going? he's got to come up with something with more specificity, no? >> one would think but he's not doing it because he knows if he's litigating immigration policy with the president, he's losing in a lot of places he needs to start winning.
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today the romney campaign put out a response, several responses from hispanic elected officials who support mitt romney saying the problem with this speech is that the hispanic community has seen its unemployment rate increase under this president. and they don't want to talk about immigration policy. of course, when mitt romney was running for president in 2007 and 2008, he tried to grind down his opponents by running to the right of them on immigration policy. and he did the very same thing against rick perry in this past primary. so if he comes to -- softens his position as many think he should, he runs the risk of looking like a flip-flopper. he's in a tough spot as far as immigration policy is concerned. >> david, one explanation might be that the thunder he expected to get from rubio was stolen. and in fact the two were going to be very similar. >> well, it was. and the thing is about rubio's proposal is that romney had not really endorsed it.
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and most of republican leadership was very lukewarm on it. rubio was looking like an orphan with this idea. but regardless of that the president came in and politically savvy way, just totally undercut any possibility that romney had of getting covered on this issue through marco rubio's plan. so i doubt he will be on the ticket. as i said earlier, because of what erin said too, romney has put himself into concrete when it comes to the immigration issue in a way that leaves him no opportunity to have an opening with this community. and i think obama hit it out of the park today. and if you had the latino voters the day before the elections watch romney's speech and the president's speech today, i'd be surprised if the split wasn't 80-20. >> david, thank you. thank you, erin mcpike. we appreciate it. up next, republicans are celebrating the supreme court overturning health care reform. but the trouble is it hasn't happened yet. stick around for the sideshow.
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try great grains banana nut crunch and cranberry almond crunch. welcome back to "hardball." time for the sideshow. first up, a glimpse into the future courtesy of richard murdoch of indiana. in a video briefly uploaded to his youtube account, he cheers the supreme court's decision to strike down the affordable care act. only thing is, the supreme court hasn't ruled yet. let's watch. >> well, we've had our brief moment of celebration because the supreme court ruled that obama care is in fact unconstitutional. it's what many of us argued all along. but don't sit back and think the fight is over because it isn't. barack obama and congressman joe donnelly are already putting obama care 2.0 together and they're going to try to pass it
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once again. we cannot let that happen. >> turns out the murdoch campaign is covering all its bases and preproduced decisions for anything delivered. the campaign spokesman, no doubt a boy scout, invoked the famous mantra, be prepared. yesterday, we told you about a bloomberg news report that the romney campaign asked florida governor rick scott to stop bragging about his state's strong economic rebound. very inconvenient for the argument that president obama has ruined everything. romney and scott aides both pushed back on the story but not before team obama released a mock letter from the state of mitt romney and it reads, rick i see you've been touting florida's improving economy. please stop. it's undermining my whole platform. mitt romney's challenge extended beyond florida to states where like ohio and virginia where governors are presiding over improving economies. and finally comparing voting
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in egypt to florida. >> egypt's election committee said it will not announce the presidential runoff winner tomorrow after all. the group said it has to review hundreds of complaints about the voting. >> hundreds of complaints? you know what that's called in florida? the best most efficient election in the history of florida. what are you doing? take the money and run! you get more complaints a night in boca raton at an olive garden. >> florida, florida, florida may never live down the 2000 election. and one sideshow friday night bonus. as president obama bounded on to the stage in tampa this afternoon, his feet got a little ahead of him. >> he wrote that bumble off to enthusiasm. >> i was so fired up i missed a stair.
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i'm page hopkins. here's what's happening. jerry sandusky's attorney told reporters he would be shocked if his client was acquitted on all charges. jurors are continuing deliberations right now in the sex abuse trial. a bullied school bus monitor whose abuse was seen online has more than half a million dollars to ease her troubles. a fund was set up to help karen klein take a little vacation. now more than 250,000 people have donated. gains across all three wall
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street indexes today. the banking industry led the pack despite yesterday's downgrades. now back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." a jury in bellefonte, pennsylvania, continues to deliberate in the sex abuse trial of jerry sandusky. after the jurors were sequestered yesterday afternoon, america learned of two more victims. one sandusky's adopted son who said he, too, was a victim. the the second, who granted an interview to kate snow. buzz bissinger is the author of friday night light's. his book is called "father's day." stacey honowitz is a sex crimes prosecutor who's written a children's book called "my privates are private."
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buzz, how odd that the whole country knows of these two developments and yet we hope the jurors are sequestered and yet they have no idea. >> you know, it is odd, but i also think that joe mcgettigan is an excellent attorney. i just have to believe that in the case of the adopted son, there must have been some credibility issues. i think the prosecution put on an airtight case. if the jury decides otherwise it won't make a difference to me. the man is a monster. i don't see how possibly all these witnesses got together and concocted this up. this story. and i think mcgettigan felt, look, we have a tight case. this kid must have credibility problems. it seemed odd to me that the lawyer would held a press conference or announce it as the jury is deliberating, but in terms of sandusky's guilt, i'm not worried about it. >> last night on "rock center" kate snowe had an exclusive
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interview with traifs weaver. the first victim to come forward and testify on tv. he has testified in front of a grand jury, but was not called as a witness in the current trial. he is suing sandusky and penn state university and here's a portion of that stunning interview. >> if jerry sandusky were sitting right here -- >> i'd punch him in his mouth. >> would you say anything first? >> no. there'd be no reason to say anything. he knows what he did. i know what he did. >> travis weaver says jerry sandusky sexually abused him more than 100 times over a period of four years starting in 1992, when he was just 10 years old. he says he thought he was the only boy it happened to until he saw sandusky on the news, arrested on charges he molested other boys. weaver, now 30, had never told a soul. but last fall he told his family his story for the first time. he says he still feels numb.
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you don't cry about it now? >> no. >> when's the last time you cried about it? >> a long time ago. >> stacy, you supervise a sex crimes unit. i looked at it last night and said why hadn't he surfaced sooner? so many of these individuals just were content to go on with their lives and never relive the tragedies. >> well, it's very common in multi-victim cases. victims subject to pedophiles, the shame and the guilt and the pain that they feel, the embarrassment, the idea someone might call them homosexual, so many factors go into why a victim doesn't come forward. i see it so many times. many times they might report it then when it's time to go to court, they decide they can't talk about it in front of strangers. i'm not surprised by either one of these witnesses coming forward. so many times the perpetrator's own family member will be a victim and they chuss not to
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talk. they're sometimes supportive in the beginning then realize they can't live with the secret anymore. it's not a shock to somebody like me in the business and sees it all the time. >> stacey, joe amendola made a point of saying that jerry sandusky is accused of these antics that would have begun when he was in his mid-50s and essentially said to the jurors, do you really think a guy becomes a pedophile when he's in that adult age bracket. what thoughts did you have on that issue? >> well, he's probably right. he's probably been doing it for a very long time. i mean, when you see these guys and you see the amount of victims that they are capable of abusing, it's really not that farfetched. the fact of the matter is there's probably many more victims that choose not to come forward. you might see victims coming forward now after the case is closed. the idea that th would have to testify in front of a nation is so frightening and scary. so it's not unusual. he probably did start early on. and there's probably a lot of
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other victims a lot of places. >> buzz, you've spoken about the cone of silence that has surrounded sandusky's bad acts at penn state. where adults had reason to suspect there was something going on here. i guess my point is that even when this verdict comes back, there's still a lot of questions that needs to be answered in that regard. >> there's a ton that needs to be answered because there's a ton that's come out in trial. we know 1/10 of it. what is this secret file that vice president shultz had in which he admits that -- i've heard whispers about sandusky. if he's heard whispers, you're telling me paterno didn't hear whispers? the coaches didn't? where's he gets this information from. you have the 1998 case. you have the 2002 case. you have now a board member accusing ex-president spanier of a coverup. he said jerry must be treated humanely. and these victims, they are going against -- yes, i'm sorry penn state. the monster of penn state and the monster of football.
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they say to themselves i go in, i say that famous defensive coordinator abused me, no one's going to listen to me. nobody. that's the problem. so people at penn state, you think you're off the hook, you think it's done. forget it. >> stacey, what do you read into the fact that today the jurors wanted to hear the mike mcqueary testimony and wanted to hear the dr. john dranoff testimony. it was to dranoff that mcqueary reported telling his dad and him what he had seen. that was testimony they wanted to hear again. >> it's not uncommon to have reread. it could be something as simple as one juror saying i didn't hear a certain portion. the other jurors saying let's have them read it back. a lot of times that's what it comes down to. some maybe heard something. other juries say we didn't hear it. so the best way to resolve that issue is to have read back
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testimony. >> buzz, breaking news on "hardball." come monday you join the ranks of talk radio hosts. we can't wait. >> well, i'm excited and looking forward to it. you can tell i have a big mouth which will serve me well. i tell you one thing. i mean what i say. when i think about this case, i get really livid. because people reported sandusky in 1998 and 2002 and nothing was done. nothing was done until finally what was it 2007 when they had to investigate? >> thank you, buzz bissinger. thank you stacey honowitz as well. is it really a fight the republican establishment wants in an election year? this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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welsh democrat from vermont and josh gerstein for politico. congressman, that's is a pretty nasty behavior on the part of issa. it seems personal. what's your explanation? >> the attorney general's been sticking up for people that others don't think should be stuck up for. for instance, hispanics in arizona against arizona law that basically targets them. gays and lesbians, who think they ought to be able to get married. and of course voters in places like florida who are having their right to vote compromised. eric holder has been something of a target for republicans including mr. issa. >> josh, i see rusks for both sides. i see risk on the part of the republicans because it's not a jobs issue. and people want to know what are you doing about jobs and the economy. the risk i see relative to the democratic side of the aisle is the president in invoking executive privilege plays in the hand there's something to hide and he's caught up in it.
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how do you assess the politics of what's transpired? >> you're right. it brings this story into the white house where it hadn't been in the white house before. it had been an albatross around eric holder and other officials at the justice department. another danger for president obama is he's put forth this brand of being the most open government in history. he's gotten a lot of flack often from the left for not being as open as he promised to be. and obviously invoking executive privilege doesn't go with being totally transparent. on the other hand you're right. there is a danger for republicans not only in distracting from the main message they have that the president's no good on the economy, but also the sense that maybe we're starting to return to the 1990s when you had things going on like danbury ton shooting a pumpkin to try to stage what he thought was, you know what he had questions about a pumpkin to try stage -- when he had questions about a suicide. >> issa's phone rang in an interview with greta vaughn stus
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rn. >> you weren't getting the pages you wanted -- that may be the attorney general with -- >> if it's barack, i'll tell him we're not available. >> congressman, it strikes me that it's very personal what is going on on this issue. i can't help but think that the white house, they're smart politically, that they volunteered for this battle because they want to pit themselves against the congress, no disrespect to you, but nothing is worse than the numbers of the approval rating of the members of congress? >> that's true, but you know, i'll say this. darryl issa is very aggressive, but that's okay. mr. cummings is no slouch in the aggressive department, but if you're in oversight, it should be tempered with restraint, and the big failings of what mr. iss a two things, number one, the subpoena he sent to the attorney general was so overbroad, it was requiring him to provide information that if he provided it, would have ended up, put him in jail.
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grand jury trance crypts, he asked for that. that's illegal to turnover. tr transcripts of wire tap information. it raises question about the credibility of what is really the agenda here, the pursuit of truth or a political hit job? and that is a credibility that the chair of the committee has to protect. second thing, is that the attorney general has actually been very responsive. he's been into the congress eight times to testify, produced thousands of documents, so this is something that could be worked out. but sometimes you don't want to take yes for an answer. >> josh, congressman issa told rush limbaugh that president obama was one of the most presidents in present times, walked it back, and then came out with this zinger. >> we're busy in washington with a corrupt government, with a government i said more than a year ago was perhaps because of
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the money, because of the amount of tarp and stimulus funds was going to be the most corrupt government in history, and it's proven to be that. >> there are any number of issues on the far right about eric holder in particular, doma, the voter id laws, arizona immigration, the issue on where to try. doma was one of them, voter id was a second, the arizona bill was a third, and also where the 9/11 detainees would be tried. always coming back on holder's watch, and serving as a basis of antipathy on the right. is it related to substance or is there something else driving this? >> there's a degree to which holder has become the favorite punching bag of the right, and perhaps to some degree, a stand in for the president himself. despite what we sought in the rose garden the other day, there are limits in american society to what you can say to the
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president and what you can do to the president and say to his face. they don't apply so clearly to members of the cabinet. you can get away with a lot more invective toward members of the cabinet, and for a lot of republicans who may feel they can't beat up the president directly or harshly as the constinch wnts want to, they feel more liberated going every the attorney general. >> i'm limited on time, do you expect any members of your party to break ranks when they're a contempt vote in the house? >> well, i certainly hope not, again, one of the points we made is that we're hopen to doing anything to get the information we need, but why is it darryl issa has refused to let us to typha testify, and bring in and get information from the bush folks who were in charge when this began? >> thanks. when we return, let me finish with a homemade recipe to fix america's obesity crisis. you're watching "hardball," the
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first came michael bloomberg's proposal to ban the sale of sweet drinks, and now cambridge, massachusetts, is considering a similar move. disney will soon ban advertising of unhealthy foods on its tev channels, radio stations gears toward children. dime constraints have decimated the dinner hour. we love to watch people cooking on tv while we're eating fast food and general tso's chicken. my mother's one of 11, eight sisters and three brothers. of west hazelton, p.a. the sisters, all great cooks, and i collected from them their favorite family recipes, dishes created before america was calorie conscious. my mom's famous peanut butter
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cookies are revealed, so, too, shoo fly pie, but the dinners bring back the memories, nanny's stuffed peppers, vie's fete acheaney, and meatballs, chilly con chaarney, meat loaf, and thanksgiving sdufing, but mostly, evidence of an era where dinner was prepared and served an a regular hour, helping to delineate between dinner and snack time. we need to define dinner again, limit the snacking, and limit relying on processed foods. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. chris will be back on monday. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts now. >> welcome to "the ed show" tonight from new york. president obama took charge on
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immigration at a latino conference today. while mitt romney and the republicans are still trying to come up with a consistent message. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> send me the dream act. i'll sign it right away. >> the president got his turn to speak to latino leaders in florida today and went directly at mitt romney. >> the speech he said that when he makes a promise to you, he'll keep it. well, he has promised to veto the dream act, and we should take him at his world. >> we'll have all the fallout from the president's epic smackdown. the out of control attack on eric holder is now a deranged assault on house leader pelosi. >> she thinks that we're doing this to suppress votes this fall. that is mind numbingly stupid. >> nancy pelosi has to be one of the dumbest people to ever have been a speaker of the house. >> is she drinking. >> matthew miller, the former top spokesman for the justice department is here tonight


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