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letters released in time for valentine's day this year, but for valentine's day eve, the "rachel maddow" show gives you president lbj ordering pants in all of its glory. happy valentine's day eve, america, this is how you know i love you. the best new thing in the world. now it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell, have a great ride in the wire fence kind of night. >> the president delivers his second term agenda, and republicans deliver ted nugent and a very thirsty marco rubio. >> the buck stops with the president of the united states. >> the state of our union is stronger. >> and the state of the union, fine. >> let's talk about the state of the union. >> it was a check list of things. >> the laundry list of familiar sounding proposals. >> pursue a market-based solution, send me a comprehensive immigration reform bill and raise the federal
minimum wage to $9 an hour. >> raise the minimum wage. >> oh, look at me, i'm the president. >> lip service and liberalism. >> i support people making more than $9. >> i don't think the minimum wage law works. >> delivering a combative republican response. >> more government is not going to get you ahead. it is going to hold you back. >> it is a horrible position to be in, what is the deal with the water bottle. >> if he was thirsty, he should take a sip. >> he is good at it. >> if congress won't act soon, i will. >> president obama's emotional appeal. >> gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. >> that is what i think is going to stick in the minds of the people. >> the continued revenue. >> they deserve a vote, at least to have a vote on the new gun laws is a long way from let's get this passed. >> the families of newtown deserve a vote. >> will emotional appeals push congress to act on gun control. >> the members of tucson, they
deserve a simple vote. >> as he begins his second term, president obama knows exactly how many days he has left as president. and he means to use them well. >> an american jobs act, the manufacturing hopes, the tax reform, and entitlement reform. a comprehensive immigration reform bill in the next few months. a bipartisan market-based solution to climate change. give every responsible homeowner in america the chance to save $3,000 a year by refinancing at today's rate. >> the demands of a high tech economy. change the higher education act so that affordability and value are determined. raise the federal minimum wage
to $9 an hour. >> today, the president went to asheville, north carolina, where he toured an auto parts plant and emphasized his plans to implement a manufacturing sector. and train the workers for the job. but he had to admit he can't do it alone. >> now i'll do what i can just through administrative action. but i need congress to help. i need congress to do their part. i need congress to do their part. i need congress to take up these initiatives, because we have come too far and we have worked too hard to turn back now. we have to stop with some of the politics that we see in washington sometimes that is focused on who is up and who is down. let's just focus on the same kind of common sense and cooperation that we're seeing at this plant. and we see all across the country. >> today in washington, republican congressional reaction was predictable.
mitch mcconnell's comment was republican boiler plate. >> in short with his impressive delivery and trademark style, last night's speech was pedestrian, liberal boilerplate that any democratic lawmaker could have given at any time in recent memory. >> and why stop there? why not compare the president to hitler, stalin, or castro? well, republican leaders don't have to do that. that is what rush limbaugh is for. >> throughout history, dictators, for example, have never really been blamed for the bad things that happen in their countries. hitler, stalin, mao, castro, none of them blamed by the rank and file citizenry. they were, instead, the leaders of the revolution. they were the great figures trying to change all the evil
that was happening to everybody. here is obama. this is what agitators do, rile people up, and then come in and try to calm everybody down and fix it. >> krystal, the president gives an hour-long speech, and what we realized is, it could have been shorter. taken out the rhetoric and just have all the programs mentioned. but really, not a single republican response that actually takes on what he said. not even marco rubio's. >> that is exactly right, and of course, marco rubio's response was written long before the speech was ever given. it was not really a response. but they're still married to attacking a straw man. they're not actually wanting to engage on the policy substance, because the substance on it, the policies, everything he advocated for which has been
called liberal and aggressive, all of those things, is also very popular. are you going to be the one who says we don't support paycheck fairness or pre school for children? it is not the place where they want to be, so instead they have to say president obama just wants big government. he doesn't think that the pirate sector can do anything good. he is a socialist, mao and castro, as well. >> howard dean, what would you have advised the republicans to try to embrace in the president's speech, without sacrificing their principles? were there things you thought if the republicans would meet them half way, on some of the things? >> sure, that, i'm going to pay the president the highest compliment you can pay, i think, which is this is the first speech i saw him give was brilliant. it was brilliant in terms of his politics. all of those things he mentioned had been tested in the '60s and
'70s. i shouldn't say that, he mentioned five or six things that the public really wants and then the republicans fell right into the trap. they looked like -- mitch mcconnell always looks like he ate quints before he goes on the air. they talk about things that lost them the last election. and rush limbaugh is the biggest favor that ever happened to us. i'm just in shock. i thought the president did a really brilliant job. from a political point of view, we can talk about the policy and argue about that. and the republicans were their usually completely wasted self. rubio, i thought did a decent job in terms of his presentation, he didn't have anything to say. but he was a fresh face for the republican party. and mitch mcconnell, he is smart, but god almighty --
>> maybe not the best messenger. >> i want to listen to what the president said about paying our bills on time. >> the greatest nation on earth. the greatest nation on earth cannot keep conducting its business by drifting from one manufactured crisis to the next. we can't do it. let's agree -- let's agree right here, right now, to keep the people's government open and pay our bills on time. and always uphold the full faith and credit of the united states of america. >> krystal, i believe john boehner is sitting behind him at that moment thinking, he is exactly right, we shouldn't be tampering with this stuff. we will lose as a party, republicans in the house, if we do get caught tampering with this stuff again like we did on debt ceiling. but how does boehner try to keep control of his side on this?
>> well, and that has been the big question. it is remarkable, actually, that we were able to avoid the fiscal cliff. i mean, we sort of went over it and we were able to keep that intact. and the republicans basically blinked, they realized on some level that they were becoming known as the party of manufacturing crisis. this was all they -- that they had to offer the country. if they go down that path too many times, their approval ratings are already at all-time lows. they can't sink any further in the public's estimation. and we're looking at sequester and continuing resolution. we're going to have another debt ceiling debate in the summer. now rather than the burden being on the democrats to figure out the problems, i really think the burden is on the republicans because if they have cause these crises time and time again, the american public sees what is going on and understands who is
responsible. >> the president is offering them the chance to avoid the disaster. he is doing it with a combination of let's raise some revenue through tax loopholes on the rich. but he also made an offer on mower mar medicare last night. >> we'll rooster subsidies to prescription drug companies. and ask more from the wealt wealthiest. we'll bring down the costs by changing the way the government pays for medicare. because our bills shouldn't be based on the number of tests or days spent in the hospital. they should be based on the manner of care our seniors agree. i am open to both, as long as they don't violate the security for retirement. >> i think we have to see what is in the fine print. to say you don't want to pay by
the number of tests that are ordered is a very good thing, to say you don't pay by quality, that is pretty nebulous. we have to reform medicare, that is too expensive. it is not medicare's fault, they are actually run better than other areas. but he is not wrong, i don't think he will get much cooperation from the republicans because they're so radical, but he is right. >> let me point out one thing on medicare, one of the best kept secrets, the president has reformed medicare and made a reformed start on controlling those costs. this past one -- really since medicare's inception, it was not the cost of medicare growing, it was the aging population growing that was the driver of the cost in medicare. >> thank you both. coming up, a last word exclusive. the shooting victim who ted nugent attacked after the
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americans who believe in the second amendment have come together around common sense reform, like background checks that will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on a gun. senators, senators of both parties are working together on tough new laws to prevent anyone from buying guns for resale to criminals. police chiefs are asking our help to get weapons of war and massive ammunition magazines off
our streets, because these police chiefs, they're tired of seeing their guys and gals being out gunned. each of these proposals deserves a vote in congress. >> among those not applauding president obama's mass control proposals was house speaker john boehner, but here is what president obama said last night that actually provoked speaker john boehner to stand and yes, applaud. >> hadiya's parents, nate and cleo are in this chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote.
gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other communities, ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote. >> president obama won over at least one republican senator. >> he put forth some good ideas, i agree we need to vote on guns, let's have the debate, let's have it out there. let's talk about what the constitution says and what the bill of rights is, and what tenth amendment rights are and second memoamendment. i think we ought to have votes. >> wayne lapierre has announced he will respond to the president's state-of-the-union address tomorrow. where else? at the national wild turkey
federation convention. nra board member and paranoid mad man ted nugent said this about president obama just a few months ago. >> if barack obama becomes the president in november, again, i will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. >> nugent was, as usual, lying, of course. he is neither dead nor in jail. but that lie earned nugent a secret service investigation for possibly threatening the pare president. and it earned him an invitation to the last night's address, and the newest nut, steve stockman, democratic congressman, jim langevin, who was paralyzed from a shooting, told reporters that it was an odd choice for a member of congress to invite
somebody who threatened the life of the president. ted nugent who never breaks his part as a madman, then said he probably has crap for brains. nbc's luke russert took on the hopeless task of trying to make sense of what nugent said. >> he lied, claiming that somehow i didn't feel sorry for the victims of violent crime. >> is that an appropriate thing to say -- >> that would take genuine fecal material, instead of brain matter, to actually continue such a vicious, hateful lie. >> that it is an appropriate thing to say in the united states capitol about a disabled -- >> is it appropriate for him to claim that i care less about crime victims than he does? are you kidding me? >> joining me now for an exclusive interview, democratic
congressman jim langevin, congressman, did you say, is it appropriate for you if you did say, that ted nugent cares less about crime victims than you do? >> i said ted was an odd choice to bring as a guest of the state of the union, after the comment he made, the weird comment about bringing harm to the president of the united states. as you pointed out, which prompted a secret service investigation. as simple as that. but i'm not going to let ted nugent distract from the real message or the things we were involved in. i was proud to organize a group of my colleagues, each of us gave up our ticket, to those who have been victims of gun violence, who lost their lives, shattered by gun violence. because i believe it is important that we establish the
universal background checks, and the assault weapons ban, and an elimination of these guns that hold 30 rounds of ammunition that are designed for nothing other than weapons of war, designed to kill large numbers of people very quickly. >> it was fascinating to watch what republicans do not applaud for when the president is speaking. but there came that moment when the president was asking for a vote, repeatedly asking for a vote on this, that eventually john boehner as we just showed in the video, eventually stood and eventually clapped. what did you make of that? >> well, i -- glad that speaker boehner, something resonated with him there, that he agreed, that yes, thei victims of gun violence, the families who lost their lives, they deserve a vote. and let us debate this issue on the floor of the house, let us make or case and have an up or
down vote. and i believe we can make the case for responsible, sensible gun safety legislation so that we keep guns out of the hands of criminals. if speaker boehner won't bring the bill to the floor we'll never have that opportunity. so i implore him to bring that bill to the floor, and let us have a vote, up or down. >> let's listen to what the president says he hoped can be achieved with this legislation. >> our actions will not prevent every senseless act of violence in this country. in fact, no laws, no initiatives, no administrative acts will perfectly solve all the challenges i have outlined tonight. but we were never sent here to be perfect. we were sent here to make what difference we can. >> that is something we keep hearing from the nra side of this argument. oh, this won't stop every mass murderer. well, no one says that every law
stops every one who is interested in breaking that law. >> well, that is absolutely right. and we're not looking for the perfect solution, because there is no such thing as the perfect solution. what we are is looking to try to manage the risks. close that incident of vulnerability if you will, so that we take as much risk out of this as possible. it means that we take guns out of the hands of criminals or those who are -- have some sort of mental illness that would preclude them from owning a weapon, because they have a form of mental illness that would bring harm to themselves or others. look, in my case, as you pointed out earlier in the program, i was a young police cadet, i was 16 years old when i was accidentally shot and paralyzed. i was in the police locker room, the bullet went off accidentally, cut my spinal
cord, i was paralyzed accidentally. now, the accident happened with two police units, in the most safest environment. it just shows you the accident can happen anywhere, it was an accident. it just goes to show the answer to keeping our kids and communities safe is not more guns as the nra would suggest. >> congressman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and thank you for making the state of the union for meaningful for all of us, by coming up with the idea of inviting people who are victims of gun violence. >> thank you, my guest was the man who lost his sister to gun violence, and many have powerful stories to tell. it puts a face on a really important issue. >> we'll post some video on our website of what your guest, jim tyrell, had to say. thank you. >> coming up, wayne lapierre has an enemy's list, and you're
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again. you showed an ability to laugh at yourself, do you have anything to add from the tweet last night? >> you know, i needed water, what am i going to do? it happens. >> republicans had high hopes that marco rubio would emerge last night as the savior of their party. democrats were not impressed by the performance last night, but it is republicans who will decide, who the next nominee will be. reaction to the speech is varied. republican strategist bruce hanes says it probably made them smile, and that is a welcome change of pace. some were not happy with the speech or speaker, but they would not give their names. do i think it is lasting damage? no, do i think it slowed down the rubio hype a bit? yes, another anonymous one said whatever they wanted out of him i'm not sure they got.
and, rubio's national introduction is now a punch line. and here is reaction from marco rubio's really biggest fan. >> the dry mouth -- his mouth was dry, kept doing this. and that comes, by the way, i'll just be -- that comes from being nervous. it comes from butterflies. you go to a little room with no noise, no audience, no applause lines and nobody applauding and so forth, it is a really, really tough thing. to do and to stand -- and he did it. he had dry mouth. speech was excellent speech, he took it right to obama. he took it right to obama. >> dry mouth expert, dr. rush limbaugh. now, ari, you are in a little room with no audience.
>> this is a little room. >> no, you know, applause lines. so that is -- >> i have it right here. i mean -- >> so so i don't know. you know, it is hard to judge this thing because of the water thing. because -- how did he do? >> the water throws it off. the dry mouth, which rush limbaugh said about three times which i really appreciated. but there is something real here. which is when your rise is based on nothing, your fall can also be based on nothing. >> oh, yeah, that makes sense. >> let's take a look at where the bar was set. he had to do better than bobby jindal did. let's just put the two of them together and see how they did. >> good evening, and happy mardi gras. >> false choices like the one the president laid out tonight. the choice is not just between big government or big business. >> sam stein, which is better? looking a little goofy, walking
up to the microphone, and then saying happy mardi gras, which i think threw a lot of people back then. or you know, the desperate reach for the water? >> which is better? >> yeah, which one of those -- >> i think we can relate more to the need for water than -- >> yes, i can. >> i was surprised. i thought rush limbaugh out of gratitude towards rubio would say something like that well, even ronald reagan had dry mouth at one point in his life, and then you could compare rubio to reagan. this is a real distraction, obviously. it is not a significant blunder i don't think in any respect. ari's point, which is valid, rubio's speech, if you looked at it tried over platforms of the romney campaign, in addition to a little bit more moderation on immigration reform. and if you look at it s
subtantively -- >> he talked about student loans, saying listen, i couldn't have gotten through college without student loans. there are not many republicans that can talk about that. at the same time, he is in the party that would cut student loans. >> he has a great bio and great story. nobody ever said that medicare doesn't go to republicans and student loans don't go to republicans. he has all of these facts that have no point. and so if your argument to the public is we just ran on gutting medicare, and everything i'm saying tonight when you look at the details in the approach to our budget and the fiscal health is about under cutting programs, and then telling us your parents were on medicare. that doesn't do anything for us. everybody knows unless your parents are rich, when they're old they will probably use medicare. >> the real speech started beforehand, regarding the
"violence against women act." you can cast those votes, probably more well-oriented than any speech you can give. that is the problem with rubio. he presents a great story. and has biography anecdotes, but sometimes you have a lot of explaining to do. >> sam stein and ari melber, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, the readings from the nra's enemy list, it didn't just name celebrities, as we told you the other night. it also named doctors, teachers and the surprisingly long list of jewish organizations. resourc. bright students are getting lost in the shuffle. and administration's work gets more complex every year. when you look at these issues, do you see problems or opportunities? with an advanced degree in education from capella university,
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the same thing that the united states catholic conference has with the police foundation, the police foundation's stated purpose is "to help the police be more effective in doing their job." which of course, means the police foundation, the country's leading think tank on effective and just police work is on the nra's enemy's list. as is every other group i have mentioned. now let's take a look at that list of enemies of the national rifle association and see if we can make any sense of it at all. the american association of retired people, the gray panthers, the american civil liberties union, the conference of surgeons, the police foundation. that list makes absolutely no sense. what could the gray panthers possibly have done to get on the nra's enemy's list? and neurological surgeons? really? no one in the 4 million nra members has ever had a brain
tumor? neurological surgeons are enemies of the nra? and so is the american nurse's association. and the ambulatory association, the national association of pediatric nurse association and practitioners. and the national association of children's hospitals. if you have anything to do with the health care of children you are on the nra's enemy list. as is of of course, the american medical association. there is not a single person who has been tricked into paying dues to the nra who could tell us why the american academy of pediatrics is on the nra's enemy's list. or why the nra hates brain surgeons. because the due's money of the nra is constantly being used for
things that the majority of members of the nra do not support. it is being used now to lobby against background checks for gun sales, something that most nra members actually support. the ama theater chain is on the nra's list, which only makes me want to see movies at amac's now. and ben and jerry's names are on the list, which makes me want to get even fatter. the kansas city chiefs and royals are on the nra's list, so if you're a baseball fan in kansas city and an nra member, you had better find a chicago team to follow. because don't think the nearby st. louis rams are the answer. because they, too, are on the nra's enemy's list. stoney field farm's yogurt has just become my yogurt of choice by getting itself on the enemy list. how crazy are wayne lapierre and
the other blood-drenched lobbyists for murders, it describes just how crazy they are. and i'm just giving you the tip of the iceberg, the tip of the crazy, the national association of chain drug stores is on the list. the national association of secondary school principals is on the list. as is the national association of elementary school principals. the most tragically famous elementary school principal in america, dawn hoch sprung died trying to save the students at newtown. her body was ripped apart by a mass murderer who was equipped to the hilt with an assault
weapon, and high-capacity magazines, thanks entirely to the work of the nra. and after that happened no one at the nra thought hey, maybe, maybe we should take elementary school principals off our enemies list for a while. the ymca of the usa is not on the nra's enemy's list, but the ywca is. go figure, it is a goofy list, but it is also a poisonous list, filled with hatred and paranoia,
and where there is the paranoia, there is also hatred. the national black association is -- the nra's hate list, but by far, the easiest possible way to get your organization on the nra's enemy's list is to be a jewish organization. the union of american hebrew congregations, the national council of jewish women, the jewish labor committee, hadassa is on the enemy's list, the central conference of american rabbis, the american jewish congress is on the list. the american jewish committee is on the list. and yes, the anti-defamation league is on the national rifle association's enemy's list. this man runs an organization that doesn't just secretly hate the jewish people who run the
anti-defamation league and all the other jewish organizations i just mentioned. he actually puts them on his organization's enemy's list by name. he keeps a list of the jewish organizations he hates. and he made that list readily available on his organization's website, and then, then, he was warmly invited by republicans to testify to the united states senate. the same republicans who turned chuck hagel's confirmation hearing into a game show of who supports the state of israel the most. a game show that was then parodied by saturday night live, of a piece they posted on line. and that piece, the saturday night live sketch incurred the wrath of abraham foxman, his thoughtful and sensitive letter to lauren michaels, the executive producer of saturday night live expresses a concern that "the skit could play into the worst kinds of ideas, even
reinforcing the pernicious notion of government" yes, it could, and only for crazy people who don't understand that it was a joke. the kind of crazy people who put abe foxman on their enemy's list. the anti-defamation league is on a list filled with jewish organizations. an enemy's list, and abe foxman is worried about stuff saturday night live is doing in their dress rehearsal that doesn't even make it to the show. the stuff everybody knows i a joke. the anti-defamation league and jews everywhere should be worried about what they're doing on an enemy's list, and why the authors of the enemy's list have so much power in congress. abe foxman has served his community and the world honorably for almost 50 years at
the anti-defamation league. he is deservedly well respected by democrats and republicans in washington, far more so than wayne lapierre could ever dream of. no one has done more to fight anti-semitism than abe foxman. it has been virtually purged from our life. most of them know they have to keep their views private unless they are writing the public enemy's list of the national rifle association. abe foxman has the moral authority to crush the people who put him on the national rifle association's enemy's list. and america desperately needs him to do that. hi. hi.
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. we know our economy is stronger when our wives, our mothers, our daughters can live their lives free from discrimination in the work place and free from the fear of domestic violence. today, the senate passed the "violence against women act," that joe biden originally wrote almost 20 years ago and i now urge the house to do the same. >> all 22 senators who voted against the bill were of course men, republican men. tomorrow is the 15th anniversary of v-day, the movement created by the tony-award winning play right, in the move to push against violence. tomorrow, the campaign for the
billions of women around the world, who are victims of violence in their life times. >> i rise, because one in three women will be raped in their life time. i think it is scary and insane to imagine that girl's and women's issues are a side issue. and as long as we continue to not stand up and rise and make it a thing at the forefront, we'll see every other issue before us continue to fail. >> rosario dawson, i have one of these introductions here to read of you. but we don't need that. actress, activist, and director, you directed one of eve's plays. >> yes, actually, emotional creature, now on stage here in new york, went through the gestation period. >> and this movie, "v-day," she
didn't just stop there, she created this movement. tell us about what you're doing tomorrow. >> well, tomorrow is one billion rising, you know, the u.n. statistic is that one in three women will be raped, or killed in their lifetime. and that accidents for many on the planet. so on the anniversary for v-day, we wanted to do something really big. and eve came up with the extraordinary, outrageous idea to have a billion people rise in solidarity, with the people who will be abused, saying we will dance, and strike, and pledge to end this violence against these women. >> so it is not just rise, it is dance, to break the chain, i believe is the song they're going to be dancing to. i think we have it. can we play it or talk over it or hear it? >> we are teachers, we are beautiful, beautiful creatures ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ .
. >> okay, well, i will be chair dancing to that right here, tomorrow night, at 10 p.m., i'll chair dance through the entire show. >> yes. >> eve has a people that she has written for this. could you read to for us? >> yes, this is an excerpt from it, called "over it." i am over rape happening in broad daylight. i am over a woman being gang-raped and murdered on a bus in deli, or gang-raped on a bus in steubenville, ohio, i am over the women getting raped by their so-called comrades. i am over rape victims