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well you know. why know what's really happening to the global economy with much stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines khans report. but can they load a show or look at the real headlines with none of them or see i can live in washington d.c. and also be able to take a closer look at the situation in libya the u.s. has passed its sixty day mark by about twelve days now congress still hasn't voted on it and there's an extra extension coming from nato so let's stop playing the numbers game and ask if anybody out there wants this war to come to one at the next where our politicians priorities are voting on bills for defense spending piracy
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privacy and yet there's no solution in sight for our struggling economy so what are they going to say to voters when they start asking where the jobs and that has rand paul lost his mind the senator who claims to be a warrior for civil liberties recently stated that anybody who attends radical speech is should be thrown in jail or deported what not only is that a violation of the first amendment but i also would love to know who decides what's considered radical take a closer look at his make a flip flop and make a toast in tonight's happy hour say first our top story. as of today it's been seventy two days since the u.s. got involved in the war in libya that's twelve days over the sixty day limit that the president had under the war powers act before congress could intervene and it doesn't really matter because many critics would argue that america's involvement has been illegal from the start even under the war powers act because libya posed no immediate threat to us so the president couldn't just unilaterally decide to
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divert our forces but just for fun since that's the way that our politicians seem to be treating the subject as a game let's stick to the numbers today nato secretary general anders fogh rasmussen announced that nato countries will extend their mission in libya for another ninety days after the june twenty seventh expression of the current resolution and today the house of representatives was supposed to vote on a resolution demanding an end to the u.s. involvement in libya but it was placed on hold and we don't yet know what about votes going to take place the senate isn't supposed to vote until next week so it doesn't seem like anybody out there is in a hurry to end this war except for maybe the civilians that this war is supposed to be protecting and this is what i would call a giant mess here to discuss this with me is lawrence wilkerson retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell when it's thanks so much for being here tonight and what's going on here like i said we can play the numbers game we can say it's sixty days seventy two days ninety days but even the nato
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secretary general said today will put this ninety day timeline on the map but if our mission isn't completed by then we can also scary and keep stay there to make sure that everyone knows that we're getting killed what's the point of the numbers well this reminds me of. his book on war you should know where you're going before you start you should know how you're going to get out before you begin i don't think we have any idea what we're doing. so i think we're. probably. khadafi will somehow find but why. there's no indication that he's going to do so there's every indication this is a civil war but the sides are fairly evenly split in the air power one side here we are again with that wonderful leaks are air power is not a determinant of who's going to win or lose do we put troops on the ground and bring this to a conclusion. what's congress going to say about that what's nato going to say about that what nato countries going to put the troops on the ground well there has
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been some speculation over the weekend of course an al-jazeera report showed what looks like six westerners in uniform with the weapons summer shooting but i've been so you've already there british nobody really knows but congress isn't really saying much that's what's what's got me so conflicted about this entire situation is we have a few lawmakers out there people like representative dennis because senator who has been trying to pass this resolution in the house and suddenly republicans realize that there are enough votes for this to go through and so they have to put a hold on it what are they so scared well i think they're frightened of getting away from what they want to do and what they won't do is keep the military industrial complex well we will be in greece and that's what war does whether you like the war or not and republicans seem to be the war party and so if you're going to if you're going to make some action to strip the president of his war power or you're going to make some changes in their warfare or you don't want to be a republican when you do it because you might win the white house someday and you
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really like that war but if you want to win the white house is it your best strategy to point out all the flaws of the current administration happens to be seen by democratic white house that illegally don't think for war seems to be their strategy and this is mind boggling that we're in afghanistan or iraq we're in the global war on terror we're in libya we might be in syria tomorrow morning we might be in iran next week what next this is a war nation right now and there's no i see no improvement i want to talk very quickly about numbers when it comes to libya because the entire idea behind the. u.n. resolution is that we're supposed to be there for a humanitarian intervention to protect civilians but the only numbers that are coming out in terms of civilian casualties of course are coming from the libyan government which say that about seven hundred eighteen civilians have been killed there about four thousand of them have been wounded and yet nato doesn't want to appreciate they don't want to they don't want to take in those numbers because they say that they can't be verified but i just wonder where does our intelligence come
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from how do we have any idea how many civilians were actually protecting i wouldn't trust anyone's intelligence on the libyan situation right now particularly with regard to casualties you might recall that we were saying out of beauty and i think this was a good faith effort you would be too safe to be to sixty thousand casualties in iraq when it was probably closer to a quarter of a million casualties in iraq it's very difficult to determine it in media just raised as it were in the middle of the battle so i wouldn't trust anyone here and least of all would i trust the government. in libya right now so if we want to always start to segue into afghanistan i want to talk about yemen here but even you said that this is this is a quagmire this is a mistake what we're doing here in libya you have to have a mission you have to have a call before you go in but we didn't have that but is there this goes to get gadhafi believe in that's you know if you think about there for a moment it's really a nebulous to go i mean could offer he could stay forever but what kind of goal is
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that you're going to force could offer you. would be the same in syria are you going to force the saud to leave her for syria as for the saudi half of libya's for the so what are going to kill that half of libya kill that half of syria these are these are not the kind of goals that presidents should be setting for their own forces but the president's no two all american politicians all of our lawmakers really know how to admit when they made a mistake when they say that you know what this mission isn't going to correctly perhaps it's time that we actually pull out maybe it's time to abandon the mission i feel. there is an inability to realize that this isn't working and i don't know if it's pride and this is variance this is history the most if you look back four thousand years the most common mistake in retrospect the military and civilian leaders sending their military into war made is reinforcing failure they don't say let's stop here we failed and let's leave they reinforce that for your service they
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put more troops in the store and look at afghanistan right now afghanistan is not our problem pakistan is the problem we've got reports right now that half of the pakistan military is so i agree with this latest agreement with the pakistani government between the us the pakistani government on the on the go on the in the aftermath of the bin laden strike they are so angry that the only institution in pakistan other than the warriors the legal profession but it is fairly solid maybe falling apart what's going to happen in pakistan when the military falls apart starts fighting amongst itself starts fighting itself in a civil war pakistan is on the verge of collapsing and we're still hammering away in afghanistan as if that were the real problem in part because we're not you know just there as an ally and we have to modify them every day so the real dangerous situation that's occurring over there right now as dangerous as it's been since we
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entered afghanistan but it's interesting too because right now the a.p. has been reporting that apparently western officials are trolling for taliban officials before it went through all or at least a planned draw down starts to take place in july they are trolling for some kind of taliban official to speak to they also reported that apparently germany is trying to help us out with will as press secretary who hasn't been seen hasn't heard from since two thousand and one that they're trying to make this connection i can't believe that we're still trolling for it has about a pistol though if you even know if there's this press secretary even exist when the last time anyone saw him. this is further exacerbating the problem i just referred to in pakistan too because you've got some in the military some of the who have their favorite taliban and you have some of the military in the eyes who don't have any truck with the taliban at all and so you're now falling apart in the eyes are in the pakistani military because of your affiliation with the taliban who are courting and trying to get to come to some kind of political reconciliation so we
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can leave this is truly a mess and when you put your finger right on it. it's a mystery and not just with the invasion of afghanistan. as it is today we started this way back. pakistan polls here afghan policy polls if you will as being a visible for forty years and it's something that we still keep trying to not like i said no no way to admit that perhaps i made a mistake perhaps we need to refocus our shift but another place really that is. in a civil war right now at least if you listen to president saleh is yemen and i just wonder you know that i mean obviously there are so many different factions here in the north in the south sali is not going to be able to get out of this for he is accepted a number of agreements from other gulf states which all of which he then. i'm just wondering here is yemen going to be a failed state no matter if he leaves or not i think human is
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a failed state i think it is a failed state being held together with tension between the different factions that you just pointed out by the united states and its efforts to keep it from falling completely apart but it looks a lot like a failed state to me right now but what's going to happen with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula of course that's that's the number one fear if you ask americans if you talk about anwar locky is that fear a little bit overstated because there are a lot of critics that will say that they will say really just wanted western money very frankly i think it is overstated. for that very reason because they used him as the bogeyman in order to get us to invest in his government i'm not discounting the thread entirely but i don't think it's anything like what so you said it is and that who applied and sinker apparently but it also gives us an excuse to stay there and try to keep the country stable saudi arabia's interest in yemen is profound and if yemen is going to go some way that the saudis don't particularly like the saudis
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are going to step in and make sure that it doesn't happen if i were doing something with a regional partner right now and i were doing something aimed at yemen that's whom i would be working with i'd be working with riyadh now riyadh's got its own problems i watched an interview today by a professor who's very saudi affairs and she said something like seventy percent of the people are under thirty and have a college education in many cases and have no job just an eight hundred dollars stipend from the government it comes from basically from all revenues this is no way to build a future so saudi arabia is sitting on some tenuous ground right now to the only reason they're holding on to power is their very as we saw with their help for writing their very draconian in putting down any protest or stopping anything that might look like a protest but this is a very fragile environment across the region and we're watching probably as many of our former allies and friends begin to topple and even fall in the next three to
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five years as egypt tunisia and others have shown what are we going to do when that happens i hope we're thinking about that oprah thinking hard about why i'm wondering what you have to say about that because you and i expect about defense secretary robert gates championing defense cuts many many times and yet he's about to leave his position scene and recently when giving a speech to the american enterprise institute he did a bit of a walk back and said that you know the less money we have the fewer missions we're going to be able to have did he change his mind by the change his mind is that because of all. the uncertainty suddenly or did the military industrial complex just we do mal if he needs a job after he retires that's where he's going to go to and i don't think that's what got the interview by today it was quite good where he was talking about he was waiting for hang around even further because he had objected to libya you dejected other things even apparently was very doubtful of the intelligence about bin lot where he was and apparently weighed in in
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a negative way with regard to the decision to get run which looks in retrospect like a bad one now that looks bad but not having any war last night that means that you're too old to do your job in some ways i hate to see you leave because he was taking on the military industrial complex he was trying to eliminate those high dollar items we don't need and by the things we do need he was trying to prepare the armed forces for the multi billion if not multi hundred billion dollars in the future which is inevitable we're headed into you didn't ask me about this but i've never speak we are headed into this second leg of the recession i don't think we've ever been out of the recession the great recession i think we fudge the numbers with lots of money for the financial institutions which constituted probably two point five to two point eight percent of the g.d.p. improvement and so what we're really looking at now is we're looking at more foreclosures we're looking at more lost jobs we're looking at higher unemployment we're looking at a catastrophe bred by the very slow natural institutions in part that we bailed out
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several years ago but we obviously are still looking at more military spending like not free to spend money and thank you for asking about it i think that anybody you christian are going to be discussing it just tomorrow but i do appreciate your time but i thank you so much for joining us thanks for having. i have got to take a quick break but coming up next the never one issue on americans mind is the state of the economy but it seems like congress is working hard on legislation covering everything except the current economic crisis so what do we do to get jeezy's priorities straight question dorothy of the economic policy institute will return. with the first part. i think.
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we haven't got the nuclear safety ready for freedom. hi guys welcome michel ancel on the on the show we've heard our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear our audience just go on to you tube the video response for the twitter profile of the questions that we've posted on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response is please let your voice be heard.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't charge the big picture. so it's no secret that finding a job these days the u.s. is well it's a full time job not many people are hiring the few areas that are accepting applications aren't paying high so it's staggering unemployment numbers staring the country in the face and increasing numbers of homelessness and people without health insurance we have to ask is this a ticking time bomb artie's mean aparna has more on the fall out of this this small
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u.s. economy. here the golden arches that stretch across the globe from london to brussels to moscow millions flock to mcdonald's in search of french fries in big macs but what about those in search of a career it's i was in dire straits i might go to mcdonald's but the entire time i was there would be looking for something better not to offend but gold's employee i would look for other things first that's for sure i don't know but it's yeah no no i don't think it's just the worst up at your would say about the job ever. meanwhile just across the atlantic the same a roma you're going to go but a much greater sense of appreciation for this great work and i was able to go from a real person to restaurant manager. the benefits ongoing benefits
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working with people. like laughing it is a character in a secure in the u.s. where nearly fourteen million people are unemployed a career at mcdonald's has become appealing back in april the fast food chain launched its first ever national hiring day nearly one million people applied for a job but only six out of every one hundred applicants or higher. mcdonald's created sixty two thousand new minimum wage u.s. jobs in one day but for the past seven weeks more than four hundred thousand americans filed new claims for unemployment this as forty five million americans are reportedly already receiving food stamps economist and author les leopold says washington is ignoring a ticking time bomb we have the richest country on earth who can put its own people to work that's
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a disaster waiting to happen that's the far the biggest threat in the wake of osama bin laden's assassination u.s. leaders say terrorism continues to be the biggest threat against americans there's no doubt that there will continue to pursue attacks against us against a country where some forty four million americans don't have health insurance a reported one in seven children are homeless america's double war bill talks one point two trillion and the richest four hundred americans hold more wealth than the bottom fifty percent combined to one hundred wars and tax cuts for the super rich they've lost their focus they no longer have their eye on the prize which is you have to put the american people back to work back to work in what's being dubbed a made jobs us recovery we're a nation wide recruitment drive by a low wage employer still sends ninety four percent of applicants back to the
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golden arches q arena porton i am artsy. you want to know what your elected officials are doing right now they're hurriedly passing defense authorization bill creates pentagon spending they're gloating over the reauthorization of the patriot act for four more years with no debate they're doing hollywood's bidding when it comes to copyright laws and they're engaging in a symbolic battle over the debt ceiling that probably won't be resolved until we reach the deadline yet again meanwhile more than fourteen million americans are out of work so whatever happened to focusing on jobs it's a lesson that might be hard learned come next year's elections but americans remind them that what really matters is the economy join me to discuss this is question dorsey director of external and government affairs at the economic policy institute christine thanks for coming back on the show but what is congress doing right now if you can you honestly if you saw me one positive thing of the congress is doing to really create jobs other than i don't know allowing businesses to continue
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enjoying all those tax breaks or slashing abortion funding and all that stuff you know unfortunately anything positive to deal with creating jobs in this country is really left off soon as we made this pivot to being all about the deficit once that dominated talk in congress and from the white house quite frankly we haven't done anything to deal with the enormity of the jobs crisis that you talked about fourteen million people unemployed and if you really look at some other indicators the legal market is in a lot worse shape and that the fact that we haven't had any results from congress will be disappointing now i just wonder too we're waiting for jobs numbers for the month of may to come out on this friday but if we just look at the first four months of this year too even if the trend does continue as is how long is it going to take for jobs numbers to get back to normal i mean here's the crazy people it was a really good month three hundred forty four thousand jobs added to the economy it was the best one in five years and if we had seen kind of result in april for the
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next five and a half years we would get to the level of a recession unemployment. in the fall of two thousand and sixteen it would take another five and a half years from now to get back to where we were before the recession and that's if we have a month that was off the charts better than we have had in the last five years which is highly unlikely so does that mean that there's no way to get back i mean is america going to be a fundamentally different country when we come out if we have come out of this great recession what's going to look like what congress continues to think that its response can be to do nothing yes we are we are fundamentally changed but there are things that can be done but it results in congress making the necessary steps to invest in key targeted ways to increase employment there's a lot of needs that are unaddressed in this country it's not like there are not jobs that can't be performed but if congress doesn't put its weight and its resources by creating incentives to get those jobs done it's not going to happen so easy when you say incentives you know where these jobs are located because i think
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that one thing that could is constantly part of the debate a part of the discussion with congress is our tax cuts right we don't want to dare burden any of our businesses we have higher taxes because then they're not going to hire anybody but if you look at the trends they're still not hiring anybody no matter how much extra money you put in their hands tax cuts you know we had a decade of tax cuts for individuals mostly high earners and for businesses it's resulted in the weakest jobs recovery any economic expansion we've seen in the country's history clearly that's not the answer but what is the answer is congress doing a few things one looking at where their needs in the economy and i can think of a few right off the bat you know we're about to close schools all across this country there are hundreds of millions of dollars in school repairs that need to be done that have been deferred for decades let's get people back to work will be construction industry and repair and modernize our schools that's just one idea that can really move the dial quickly and we can have
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a public jobs program in this country that seems to be something that no one wants that. i don't know why it worked very well. and furthermore we've got there for everybody hates the word public you know republic never sells anymore you know the public doesn't sell but i think joblessness is even worse i think you know potentially moving into a double dip recession is even worse you know we have to get past this idea that public means communist it means socialist it actually means was also it's the only way to get results because right now businesses are content to accrue profits without hiring anybody who's in need of a job well do you think that we are undoubtedly going to be an example to a person i think a lot of people would say economic indicators are pointing in that direction that the same mistakes are bound to happen again in the banks are still big banks they're not only too big to fail they're probably even bigger than they once were derivatives are still completely being on regulated and if you look at just yesterday on the show we were talking about the new standard of gore's home price index and housing prices are very very very low right now they're you know at their
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lowest point since since the downturn began you know i don't know if a build will be if it's necessarily in our future but i also think that's meaningless because if we continue as we are we're going to have such a low growth during this expansion that it's going to feel like a recession anyway so whether it's an official double dip from the national bureau of economic research who cares to americans it's going to feel like a very painful recovery and certainly i would expect that we would have another official resection recession before two thousand and sixteen you know which is again the. date at which we would get to a pretty recession levels of employment if we had a month like people every month for the next five years the elections are in two thousand and sixteen elections are indeed twelve so what's congress going to do about it because i do think that a lot of people are going to say it's the economy stupid that's what i want you to focus on me do you think that americans are going to remember more of the iraq
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obama killed osama bin ladin that's an easy one to remember or that he couldn't kill forty million. people into work every poll i've seen says the public still sees the number one issue even post shooting bin laden in the face them one issue is getting americans back to work yet it appears that a lot of people think the president's going to double down on this incredible national security success to say you know i'm the guy that you want to charge but i think great number of americans are skeptical not just of the president but of both parties and their ability to get it you know while they want to argue about deficit and debt issues which are really long term issues they are neglecting the here and now and that's something that i think both parties are going to be purely for next year the republicans who took control of the house that's in jeopardy and the president who holds the white house that's going to be in jeopardy as well what's going to happen with this debt ceiling are they just going to continue the debating and the debating to debating until we get to august second and leave until the last moment and pass it or might they not i mean you also see investors right now
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betting on the u.s. government defaulting yeah well if you look at past history is any guide with when it comes to the expiration of the tax cuts or extensions of unemployment insurance they will wait until the very last minute before getting anything done and that's not useful at all and yet the debt ceiling should have been increased a straight up or down vote on the debt ceiling become bring it to spending cuts and other things that are part of the debate not useful but what we'll see this is my prediction you know as we get closer to august second there will be some grand bargain to reduce spending and then we'll have a debt ceiling increase but it will still do nothing to put people back to work. and that's why it's backers and thank you so much for joining us thank you jake here can we have sarah palin says that she might have to cut her bus tour short and will explain why aren't old times like now then rand paul says that people who attend a radical speeches should be put in jail as strange coming from a senator who's normally without civil liberties right after scientists have paul
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spoken to several quote radical events from sky. but they delve into the have hawker see if a common interest or not. we . want to. whenever the government says they're safe get ready for freedom. if you are here broadcasting a lot.

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