tv [untitled] August 10, 2011 8:00pm-8:30pm EDT
would you so much your little world was with the louvre. but i want to run into that guy so as severus blair on the streets of london over another day of riots vigilantes and shop owners are now fighting back and police are getting their holidays so what exactly are the rioters in the u.k. out for. and it's all greek to me as austerity measures put greece in ruins and london is thought of trouble is the end of an economic era.
good evening it's wednesday august tenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and your watching r t now in the u.k. riots have gone into a fifth day and they continue to spread throughout london as seen here on the map behind me riots are going on in manchester liverpool gurning ham in addition to london where reports are now saying that a crowd of kong prevails and all more than eleven hundred people have been arrested all over the country britain is bitterly divided though on the reasons behind these arrests and behind these riots some blame the unrest on opportunistic criminality others say that austerity measures and social inequality are really to blame now meanwhile law enforcement has tripled its number of police officers to sixteen thousand and it seems their leaders are taking what they can get in the meantime but before this is under control their hands. taking whatever they get their hands
on setting fire to buildings now along with rioters there is also a different type of bomb popping up those cleaning it up but analysts and citizens say what is really in need of confronting is what's going on underneath all of this the root cause many of the issues under the surface of the united states are very similar so we'll get to what these riots could mean for the u.s. but first my colleague in the u.k. gives us the back story of what's going on there. across england and wales more than eleven thousand police have already been laid off in austerity measures by two thousand and fifteen a total of thirty four thousand will go meanwhile london and other cities are taken over by thugs the police have not been anywhere where the police if the police were here. i think it's a price i think was a little bit better i don't think they're doing everything they can i think. while police numbers are being cut the estimated cost of the war in afghanistan from two
thousand and one to the end of last month was thirty billion dollars all taxpayer cash british forces are also heavily involved in libya despite the ministry of defense being required to lose thirty two thousand start m.e.p. general patton says money's being spent on foreign wars that should be spent on home i think at the point where we have to call in. what we're seeing now and. criminality across the whole of london what we should do in my view is pull our troops back from these pointless wars in afghanistan and iraq. as money spent on two wars in foreign lands parts of london birmingham liverpool and bristol essentially get to use partly because of high immigration but also because young people in these communities have no prospects they're bored and disaffected and as the cuts bite that's not going to improve
a youth worker told me four out of eight youth centers have closed since last year so invest in your communities we need to take away the money from the police in. the money from the youth work. on the ark never imagine such consequences to be honest you know but you can look at consequences tuesday nights all sixteen thousand police officers on the streets of london according to the metropolitan police the force is being stretched more than ever before i didn't creasing the londoners are talking about taking matters into their own hands bringing with it to ation under control is just the beginning of golding big problem it's not just about cleaning up it's about communities coming to terms with the fact that even at the current numbers if violence is widespread enough the police seem unable to retain control the feeling of insecurity in these communities is likely to remain for some time particularly if police keep disappearing from the be your emmett r.t.
london so what is really behind the riots in the u.k. and what it means on this side of the pond well here to help us figure that out is sally mcnamara not only is she of the heritage foundation but she grew up in nottingham in a police station her hometown was destroyed by these writers are attacked thank you so much for being here so a lot of different theories about not exactly what caused this but what are the root causes underneath it some say social inequality some say austerity measures some say police targeting minorities what do you think is the root cause i mean is . a lot of political opportunism here however i think we would be absolutely insane not to have knowledge that we have a fundamentally broken society in britain we have a situation where young kids are seen running out of supermarkets running out of louisville running out of sneakers stores with bags of stuff that they think is ok to lose and they'll go home and their parents won't say hey you can't steal that
there won't be any ramifications from the police we are starting to see now the government is pushing back we are seeing people brought before the courts already the courts were out all night processing the bales and processing the prosecution of these people we need to have law and order back in our society but what how do you think they got to this point because you were just saying that a while ago we saw a royal wedding that brought millions of people out of the streets and everything was fine so why all of a sudden now is everything in disarray people are losing people are angry people rioting just a position is absolutely astonishing everybody saw the royal wedding where we had a million people a million people on the streets of london and other single security incident and now here we are three minutes later looking at this rioting there was a spark and it was a mob mentality this is pure lawlessness because there is a ton of underclass in britain who think there are not run if occasions for their
actions and the government need to prove that there are there is no doubt about it that we have an underclass and it's not necessarily about social inequality britain if you look twenty years ago to now we are a very wealthy society in terms of economic freedom we're right at the top it same time there's a lot of inequality according to figures in two thousand and ten the richest ten percent of the population are a hundred times as wealthy as the chorus ten percent so there is a large disparity but what do those figures show you know twenty years ago we were poorer than we are today it is total socialist mantra that we've rather see the poor poorer the rich richer who really cares how rich the rich are we care about how much wealth the reason society our jobs. other however we have a ton of families in the u.k. now where parents are essentially paid to stay at home the government is saying you know what we're going to give you unemployment benefits for a year and then you can have to prove that you're looking for a job this isn't a free handout walk if you are not a hand out and that's the way government should be but for the past decade and
a half the government has said oh this is a blank check do what you like morality is relative family it doesn't care phase is quite embarrassing we have got rid of all the social mores in our society and this is a result of what about people that are community leaders and some of these poor neighborhoods that say this is not a surprise this is my grandson is stopped by the police all of the time there is no future for a lot of these kids they don't feel like they have there's any upward mobility i know from people that have lived in britain and are british that social class is a lot more pronounced it will talk about it people know their standing so from that perspective in those communities you don't think that's fueling any anger underneath the surface or any sense of hopelessness are no ability let me tell you i'm not i have my parents over and above the minimum wage i was the first person in my family to go to university there are opportunities in britain however you need a family that's willing to support you and you need to be prepared for hard work
what a lot of these people are saying is all there's no opportunities this plenty of opportunities for what it requires is individual responsibility and hard work and we have lost all those values from our society is the idea that the government's going to do everything for you whether it's providing welfare whether it's free places that university whether it's hundreds of every new into a job and if you don't like it will pay you just to not go to your job we have to say we will give you an opportunity but you've got to work for it and i think we have lost the values of hard work and social entrepreneurship in our society do you think just you know that's a very devil's advocate but to bring up the obvious you know you are not a. poor black person in these communities that's writing on the streets look is you the credibility to speak for them i grew up in social housing you know i'm not here speaking to you as someone who grew up in a very middle class society it this is this is an idea that we can bring the rich for all of our problems back is an excuse that's not an explanation so much that
bridge that britain has rich people america has rich people what do you should be a social aspiration for us to ascend the ladder we will not get richer if we say we're going to pull the rich people down this is an idea that there is no shared sacrifice there is the austerity measures that we've implemented there is a new bank levy we are sharing the pay in the top two percent of the usa or the us other than the fifty percent of the overall thought of all people in the u.s. don't pay for drilling comes out so that's another another misnomer also what do you consider poverty i can sort of poverty someone who can't afford to feed their kids however if we look at why the american standards of poverty there is an x. box in the house there is two cars there is mobile phones there's the i've heard ok that is not politics and i want to get to what you said about about america i want to get to the united states because you said what does it matter you know that there's a lot of wealth there's a lot of what in the united states and i want to play you what joseph stiglitz and
also both economists said about both the income disparity in this country and also the belief in the american dream that maybe next year will not so aware of that we play those those sound bites but it's america was a country that sort of stood stayed together historically with great unity on the glue that we all figured if we work hard we play by the rules we do better than our parents so they would do better than their parents and our kids would do better than ours. in the last. couple decades is twenty four almost a quarter of all that income goes to the upper one percent. right forty percent bringing you measure of the will goes to the one percent and in the bottom fifty percent control two point five percent of the lot so in the u.s. there is this idea of american dream and of achieving it doing better than your parents like you didn't u.k. but the statistics don't support that that doesn't exist in the united states anymore there are lies damn lies and statistics we should not want to see the poor
poor of because we don't want to see the rich richer i think this is a completely false misnomer look at barack obama you know how one example that doesn't represent us president yeah that's a good story and that's one example but that doesn't negate the high rates of unemployment in african-american communities that far outnumber the amount in just the general population or in the hispanic communities or any of those facts well i think barack obama has talked about this quite eloquent eloquently when he said we need to have better role models in african-american communities male role figures or storage we also need to start looking at the family keeping families together having a family with a mother or father and kids is one of the best things we can have for society those children are more likely to stay in school of all i'm saying in school longer they're more likely to achieve well certainly all dogs like you so you can be doing ok one of the achieving for a job that is country unemployment is so high and there are jobs for people that have good educations have a good family we got went to a good school let me tell you the worst thing we can be doing for our kids is
saying we're going to leave you with twenty trillion dollars a year of our debt for you to pay off the others and given them the arab. doesn't have a lot of how to have a role that have a stake in that there's not much they can do they were a two percent of them or something approved of what went on in washington over the debt crisis they don't have any ability to affect that every american has a stake in the crisis because it is our kids that is going to have to pay this off they have in turn to they i mean how close they have they ever say to get out of her do they have they have a vote your right to not they don't vote on the debt crisis democracy a vote on the debt the only use. things is a form of government but it's better than everything else us tried and failed in terms of what we can be doing to create jobs i think we're doing the worst thing at the moment we'll pilings out on we'll say the government should endlessly print money we're not doing the real things that do create jobs but create jobs not the government the private sector the private weeklies the rating down we don't need to be happy we need to be taking about regulation we need to be giving them certainty we need to be saying it's ok to spend money because we are going to give you
certainty going forward what we're doing is saying you've got to pay for health care we're going to put more environmental standards we're going to put trillions of dollars in all sorts of regulations business regulations that is not going to create jobs what we're doing is tried and failed policies that have proven to fail and increasing our kids that is going to call them in or you know he's raising inequality so how long until we see the same thing happening on the streets of the u.s. what's creating the quality all of the policies that are in place now we don't have any of the things that you think would be solutions in place in any quality is increasing in this country it has been that is the trend and it seems to be continuing based on the policies that washington isn't acting so how long until we see the same things happening there on the streets of the u.s. if you increase the government the way we're going you're going to see this in fifteen years that's what it took for it to happen in the u.k. what do you think we should do we should roll back obamacare we should roll back regulation we should only use the private sector we should increase tax and we
should lower the debt we did all of those things i guarantee you we would see job creation well there is there there is your estimation and your prediction and i'm going to have you back in fifteen years to speak. that was only mcnamara heritage foundation now in the u.s. economic turmoil brew as it may not be taking out on the streets right now as we're seeing in london but it is taking it out on the stock market it's been a volatile week to say the least the market has swung hundreds of points in just minutes we saw that today and the dow jones closed down more than five hundred points now the federal reserve you. after day came out and announced that they'll keep interest rates near zero for two years but do central banks and leaders even have any of the tools left that will work earlier that is one of the questions that i asked financial radio host an economics blogger i meet your coffee nuts here is part of our conversation. course not that's going to happen and the downgrade of the i stand here because of the united states whether it was worth it or not i
think speaks volumes about the shift of risk from the balance sheet of banks the balance sheets of sovereign countries which are effect of the backstops for the welfare state so when i get through to the question of course you're going to have mounting unrest and i think ultimately because the system architecture is is such with the banking system and the the way that the sovereign countries are benefiting backstop for. for the banking system i think that you're going to see you learn vest especially united states because the u.s. is an empire and it's the reserve currency of the world the banks are trying to take advantage of those low deals and that money coming in to the u.s. treasury to prop up the banking system the federal government spending on like the one you guys there are some things that are not the favorite of the current just today and i think that's an indication that as girl practical gold is now here it's not enough to get broken with today but the girl was in a bear market still very much and i think and they go back to the secular bull market and go to the cation the leverage in the sonship in this just in the so as
a system be leveraged as if you leverage credit as it writes down liabilities and that's a good use derived because people don't trust knowledge of banking system but they don't trust the government and it used to be that governments were boxtops evil and their money in the treasury to put the money at the d.o.j. the money in the in the in japan in the sovereigns at the stake or they they don't trust the government anymore and that's a real big change and a big problem i want to you know you touched on a really interesting point and there is a question of are we in a new era where politicians can't do anything leaders had do anything where really you know there's nothing that can be done by the people that are in power and cary grant then he is that had a very sound a g.m.o. is that you know large investment management programs is a hundred and six billion dollars or so he said and i know my worst fears about this has a lot of confidence in our leaders institutions and capitalism itself are being realized we have been digging that hole for a long time. i mean to be three is there just really nothing that anybody can
do that no political political leader can do that no president can do that no central bank can do are we in a new era. really good question there are some oscar economist sort of respect for the free market who recognize all the problems of the family system that has been really has blown up and has really been responsible for the expansion of money supply since like in seventy one who believe that nothing could be done and it has to be a system reset because it's just miserably fragmented and so discombobulated and others are not an economist you have some wonder show and others who try to advocate for certain keynesian solutions because they recognize look we don't like this system it's not a good system but we're so far down the rabbit hole of the government has to step in now that it's the only one that people trust you know outside of gold that so there's nothing it's just inflation put the money to work build solar panels build a high speed rail and maybe the private sector to take advantage of or i try to look at those solutions and try to think about them and see the work and i frankly
very optimistic about the reality is if you went with the government with what the government has offered so far to a venture capitalist you would have escorted you out of the office you handkerchiefs because the the business model of a business plan going to government provides is not a business plan governments don't know how to spend money and equipment enough to doing so so i don't have a good politicians and policymakers and professional economists to get out of this crisis because if they understand how to do that they wouldn't be in the position they were in they would be in the private sector doing something different and so are you dimitri cuffing us he is a radio host and economics blogger now still ahead here on our team as the political presidential season heats up likely so will the debate on abortion we go in with a number of states that have already recently cracked down on late term abortions next get us out of that if they don't normally hear another story. for you.
to. play. guitar sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life is that you understand it and then you blame something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. the first. welcome back to the two thousand and twelve presidential election season and a hot button issue likely to resume a key place in the national debate if past elections serve as
a model is abortion and on the state level new laws limiting abortion have been recently added to the books they ban abortion after twenty weeks based on pain to the fetus some question that science though and after her personal experience dana weinstein began telling her story with late term abortion now she's been called a murderer for doing so and other far worse things that she explained to me earlier but she thinks it's important for her side in a debate to be heard because it's often left out of the mainstream conversation on the subject at twenty nine weeks she found out her baby would have severe brain damage and essentially be in a vegetative state for its life and this changed everything when she learned that her baby would expect this if. i was told that how we deliver it could be she most likely would have seized to death upon delivery that she would have had to have i would have had never saw situation order in place prior to delivering and that they would immediately have to. give the baby feeding tube and all sorts of
machinery just to. exist if you can even call that existing. she would have never been able to walk talk fi suck swallow. and she would never have been able to do anything that's a resemblance of a life because she would have always had to have a medical intervention severe medical intervention so then what was your process of looking into options at that point and how did you decide that you wanted a late term abortion came very very clear to us that our child was not going to have any resemblance of a life she would never know us she would never know her two and a half year old brother she'd never know her dog she would be in immense pain and that was not what i wanted for our child that's not what my husband wanted for our child and so we really decided quite easily if you can say
that it was such a difficult decision that the best interest for her so she didn't have an existence filled with would be to determining that this was not something you took lightly i can tell by the way that all of the process that you went through yes we did not happily jump into an abortion we were devastated this was a child that we wanted and that we loved perry very much and it was such a shock to us to beef thirty be as far along as we were at the time we have a diagnosis with the m.r.i. we were three mind weeks that is a very developed baby it was a baby that i've been feeling moving and my stomach and loving and writing notes to and journals through and working with her brother to understand he was going to be a big brother and it was certainly not something that we wanted to let go but when we really looked at the facts around us and we really thought about the quality of life there was no quality of life for her we did not want her to have that kind of
an existence so right we did we did. take the decision very serious. really and it's one that quite frankly i'm really grateful for that i did not have to put my daughter through that kind of pain upon birth existence did you ever think that you would get an abortion or a late term abortion before this absolutely not i honestly don't understand why women even went for it late term abortions i thought that naive the way now that people who got late term abortions just didn't do their prenatal testing take care of themselves and this is such a highly politicized issue you have a special leading up to another presidential election it will likely become more politicized you've seen conservative groups move to limit women's rights to choose women's rights to abortion and women's access five states just enacted a law a new law that bans abortion after twenty weeks based on fetal pain studies that
some say scientifically don't even add up to thirty six states ban that procedure or have bans on it in some situations does this change your perspective on this debate absolutely first of all it makes me so angered by this whole the gay the fetal pain that beat what about the pain my child was in the fact is we won't even be able to identify what my baby had to tell after twenty weeks and women in this position don't know they're going to be in this position they can't plan for this today and. get the help at an earlier time and speaking of getting the help i mean after twenty four weeks only eleven percent of abortion providers provide for that kind of an abortion and where you can get that is limited as i mentioned there are states that ban it you live in the d.c. area and i understand you had to go to colorado to get this procedure were you surprised by the limits to access i was shocked i was shocked to know i was already
in so much pain and devastated with our diagnosis and the decision you know about we meaning what. what that meant for our family and to find out that i couldn't go to a hospital and i couldn't go somewhere nearby i couldn't believe it. in my case dr tiller had been murdered three weeks three or four weeks before we got our diagnosis so when i went to colorado he was really the only doctor that children's hospital could refer me to and having to get on an airplane having to leave my friends and and extended family having to pay out of pocket seventeen thousand five hundred dollars which is an enormous amount i was portion of that i could borrow it from family it was just. i don't even have words are you shocked that this happens in the united states i think people have an idea that the united states is a very free country you have a lot of rights and you have a lot of freedoms and liberty to do what you want with your life are you surprised at that aspect i was i was very much so you know i knew just because i followed the
news that you know i knew that there were restrictions on a on abortion i didn't realize that there were restrictions to actually getting the care once you're in the position that you need it i also thought a medical diagnosis would need to be. superseded to stay under rules for abortion i didn't know i'm not an expert in and i was just you know an anxiously. waiting new soon to be a new mother and you know in this and when all the sudden it switched to where i needed one it was very eye opening very confusing and very frustrating to find that it was so difficult to get care and i should also mention that my care still had to be approved by the doctor that i went to do you think that after going through what you've been through that abortion and late term abortion should be political issues should be regulated by law in a way that that those were those rights are not to the degree that they're headed
in i think that it is extremely important that women can get safe quality care i'm so fortunate that i was able to get this so i could go on to have my daughter. but you know in terms of where all of this legislation is going and quite frankly we're even starting this debate makes me so angry this is not the place for government to be stepping in this is an individual choice this is a choice about what's right for women in any position that need an abortion and that's what's right for their family and it's a private matter many countries in europe for example this isn't even a political issue it's a medical issue do you think that the united states is backwards when it comes to this issue i do and why do you think that is why do you think voices like yours aren't heard aren't in the mainstream debate i think there's a few reasons it's piri intimidating to be able to speak out. i've been called some horrific names horrific names.