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leaders and. govern the country until it's fully secured meanwhile the troops continue to. sort of roll in the guy. they're also talking severely and hard. to stay with us next with the spotlight on the palestinian ambassador to russia his people statehood bid is being considered i think u.n. . tells us why recognition is so important. hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show on politics. and my guest today his new stuff. you know as a nation security council has stossel discussions over the palestinians good for country representation at the u.n.
clear decision is not expected soon as israel has powerful allies including the u.s. that is valid the details of the cage but the palestinians have supporters too and they strongly believe recognition is the only way to protect their rights this is how it's moving you only recognize state be able to maintain peace amidst such strong disagreement with close as they did spark even more still unease in the region we're talking to palestinian the baskets russia. post time wants to upgrade its un observer status to membership which will mean recognition as a sovereign state the final decision is up to the general assembly yet it cannot be made without the security council's approval and this treaty situation exposed to leave several weeks will pass before a final decision is made although nine fifteen council members are ready to support palestine's admission. only succeed in israel strongest supporter washington.
speaker. that was tough on welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us given my children. well first of all the u.s. veto that's may happen for the palestinians the bids. in the security council. what will it mean if it's implied what will it would mean for the relations between your country and washington and for the m. age of washington on the streets of the arab world. that the key to this thing this is something we never want to happen why would we palestinians have always cared about building good relations with america and we think we have succeeded in building improved relations with the american administration over the years in a sea of themyscira well you're heading on
a peaceful track with the support of the united states russia and other member states of the quartet it's not about you or how. we always endeavor to coordinate our political steps with these poor areas if the united states tries to veto or as stated by many american officials think such a step would greatly harm the expectations and dreams of palestinians in having their own state when i took a. look at not only palestinians would be influenced by such as the us pretty ability would be shaken because america itself adopted the two state solution and endeavored to find an end to the conflict in the middle east through establishing a palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with israel then such an amendment. think this step we have taken is in line with the goal the american
administration wants to achieve and we also believe the american veto would be directed against the many friends of the palestinian people as you know the palestinian bid has got the support of the vast majority of the un general assembly and in the world. therefore we think if america vetoes our vision it would be painful blue to the palestinians to u.s. credibility and policy as. us to do friends of the palestinian people for these reasons we wish your sadness trishna reconsiders its position and takes a more positive position in the discussions that will take place in the security council regarding our fairly. started with. an englishman a new yorker mr tony blair the quartet representative criticize the palestinian bid for the place in the united nations by saying i quote you can parse whatever
resolution you like at the united nations or the security council but it doesn't actually deliver you as state on the ground in the west bank where they gather strength and quote do you still consider mr blair. after after siding locally with the israelis now no just no we haven't chosen tony blair to be the quartet representative. enough some of the thought he was chosen by the quartet itself and you know we agreed to deal with him since he was chosen by the quartet i . don't know however we do have some observations on the performance of mr tony blair as well as the statements made by theme which we conveyed to him directly. for instance he has made some statements which differ from the one you just
mentioned. philistine you have a little man with a history of it in some meetings that go on to the un is a legitimate right for the palestinians no one has the right to argue against them about it and. anyhow the quartet itself has to decide whether it approves performances and scored a nadir in the. steve are not going to simply let's not yet although we think that some of its members also have some questions on his performance how about i let say it would appear. well today it's a decisive decisive days for the fate of the palestinian state well he were the investor in a mosque in russia how important is your position today what does palestine expect from russia and the situation and what good cards you confirm here is that we
palestinians are proud of our historical relations with russia you know i look at that if the when that in if you don't see us that will see but we also have a great respect for the russian policy thought of c.s. which has shown to be a rational way and in line with the international laws and as a few of the philistine photos. and as hellerstein ambassador in russia i always consult with our russian friends coordinate every step we take with them. be a lesson. with respect to many issues relevant to their work and the policy will be court said or other positions related to the russian rule as a peace phone service and keep clear on the international arena. i confirm that the russian position is essential in the highly respected and
appreciated by both the palestinian authority and the palestinian people. and we consider russia the conscience of the quartet because it always tears there its position must be in line with the international legitimacy and laws that. we want nothing more than the application of the international laws with respect to the. cheney sure and this is something russia has always cold for i'll call the for this the neo weapon feud well that's why we highly appreciate its position and care to have a clue consultation with him about all the issues. if you will that the force one of the impossible decisions it seems to me and many observers in all this situation is the status south east jerusalem which which is supposed to be part of the palestinian state that it was officially next by israel often nine hundred
sixty seven war and now is enclosed in israeli territories so is it realistic i know you have the right residual real estate for palestine to day to claim this part of the city as your capital and do you think there still may be roof a negotiation is around he still had been although i do i think he's a very important and sensitive for palestinians and muslims around the world. from the legal aspects of this case. his truthfulness part of the palestinian territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and some use of us and therefore the law applies to it is that it glides to all other arab territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven including the west bank and gaza strip. and therefore the issue of jerusalem koori shoe i said and there have been
a grievance between us and these release this case for go sheeted as part of the final agreement. such as the refugees issue the borders of the settlements issue as well as the water issue. therefore our demand for east jerusalem to be our capital is a legal legitimate and humanitarian to end the moral demands. that we agreed jerusalem is to be divided into two. parts of the eastern part as the capital for the palestinians and the west poured as the capital of israel and this is what the international community approved also. for this reason this case should not be subject to the mood and will of israel life we care to stablish an everlasting peace in the region then this peace should be done international legitimacy of the application of international laws and returning the rights to
their owners in this case. why i think it is a legitimate kenyan ride for the palestinians they live in it is our right and if you have east jerusalem as our capital. also the vote in the general assembly on down the status of the palace the gets state. after the vote will take place even if it's in favor of the country expects may we expect all the new follow of violence from the settlers on the west bank and new conflicts that we palestinians have always cared that our moves should be political moves. and the moves in it sudanese carried out by the palestinian people and support for the political decisions here are all peaceful and completely non violent ones have not been and then we have taken
a decision that violence would never and should never be our means to get our legitimate rights and. that's why we shall exert every possible cafferty to keep all staffs and popular activities as he's full and nonviolent. al bayda and it on this is because we believe violence would never bring us closer to our objectives and today's. the anniversary of the first intifada you saw the group on september twenty eighth and the fall and we do remember very well on that easter road to get these events as a pretext to destroy all our accomplishments we made in the previous years therefore we are keen not to repeat this experience less know how to see an island or indeed as little bit of a say rather we endeavor to continue negotiations seem to come back to negotiations
order for us both to find an end to this conflict. and have a shot of golf we're also all popular activities are peaceful settlement and within the peaceful that is the nonviolent framework of our struggle he got it on and. says i added new stuff i was thinking in bastard to rush spotlight we'll be back shortly after we take a break stay with us we'll be back in no time to to continue . wealthy british scientists on.
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more stuff on the palestinian ambassador to russia you actually see but how about. well many people say that today the arguments perilous time in the united nations are the same that the arguments of israel many many years ago when when they were joining the un is a true. times have changed and. along with today when we move within the framework of the united nations we do so on the basis of frist aleutian one eighty one approved by the un general assembly in nineteen forty seven for this there was a lot of you know with just the media which divides palestine into two states one for the palestinians and another one for these religions as he is. a man your brain there might be some similarity between them the time of the
foundation of the state of research nine hundred forty eight you know our demands today. for this the need so for the start of it there is some truth in this movie however so things have changed the vast at least since then and now we are in our sixty third years suffering from occupation. in. germany clashes of wars bloodshed and talking has taken place since the first round of negotiations in nine hundred ninety one that is so now and then i said i'm going to watch the scene where after all these years we want to go back to the united nations and to the general assembly to the world and to hold the united nations succumb to will for the injustice done serious or bad. woman but that it was the
united nations which divided tell us time into two states and the bad official who will say this we have yet established one he's ruled in our state tell us time is still waiting to be established in. any account of the way for the state well the did mornings maybe. may be different but the standards within the united nations should be the same and here today we see in the case of double standards at least this is what it looks like let's take a look at how israel was accepted into the un six decades ago here's a story from spotlights on the demitra. the jewish state proclaimed independence and the plight for you when membership in one nine hundred forty eight the potomac found itself but war with its arab neighbors to be accepted into the u. when it had to prove itself
a peace loving nation full to fail view and deeds israel succeeded in becoming a you were a member only after it signed armistice is with egypt jordan and lebanon no peace agreement with the palestinians was required of it at that time however when israel applied for you going membership it occupied it would be easier to resolve issues around palestinian refugees and the status of jerusalem if it was awarded statehood palestinians used to see more humans these days this term be us is not convinced it condemns the color steen ians unilateral application and demands peace talks with israel be completed first of all must promise to veto palestine as you and be led to the arab world accusing he moved of both standards they still require a bomber speech in cairo in two thousand and nine where he was addressing paralysed and suffering. well so we
are part of the story at least. what is likely to happen take into account the american veto power is that the un general assembly will grant palestinian the status of a member state this may or this is probably will happen how important. is it for the past. our mission is to get full u.n. membership with vetoed. and we consider this membership our legitimate right. to look at it in case it is being vetoed. then the second option for us is to return to the un general assembly to get this one member state status had. we leave this would raise the status of the palestinian issue and partially it would improve our status internationally so for. giving us the chance to enroll in
the organisation so affiliated to the us. however this would not prevent us from going back once again to the un security council to apply for food membership. and we consider the status of an observer nonmember state as a partial victory for us there would be cust even more ambitious to require full membership in the united nations and. why hasn't palestine. apply for this for example for a nonmember state as before i have heard an opinion that your former government's one stated they liked the way it was like status quo is that true. we consider that. observe a nonmember state status does not need a great effort that the. sense of maturity is available at the un general assembly
. however we believe the international community should help us acquire membership which means for us the basis of any coming negotiations would be different from the current ones if we get our state recognized by the united nations. as i leave this. time dealing with the palestinian issue would become different. but only because once recognized the case would become is such. a philistine the palestinian state which is a fool member of the united nations is being occupied by another state and israel which is also a member of the united nations i lo ideas that i read what i say then i will feel i'm a consequence you go sheesh and so would move on this basis that you un member states one. occupying the territories of another un member state and tell us time i've
done feed the valley c.s.e. and moreover getting international recognition would determine all borders which are the nineteen sixty seven borders which include east jerusalem and they've been . told in this case any further negotiations between the two parties should be based on the legitimate right of palestine yet it's independence. hence the cease fire is a core issue for us since new commitments any goshi sions to be held between the parties the new future of it. and bester mr. after. palestine will get even a nonmember state this it will give you rights is it true that the first thing palestine will do is to see you israel can take israel to the international court this is true and said that you know this is not accurate we don't plan to use the
international organizations to change the israelis to come in there so this is possible is it possible to have this is our right that we have the right to do that . let's see what if your question is whether we are going to do it in the way you just mentioned the answer is no the nearly set this hold on what i have we are responsible. people who read and we shoulder responsibility towards our people list the need don't want to start a crisis and was so fond of the sort of we would behave within the international community would big responsibility meaning that we don't want to confront these release or the americans. all we want is to gain for our people the right to stepless their own state. who an independent palestinian state within the nine hundred sixty seven borders in order for us to boost and improve our economy near
that will enable us to secure a better future for our people. shobna confrontation is not our objective it's all another officer law those who objected are step these release and the americans can try to use this issue as a means to frighten others. and that the palestinians would escalate the situation by making use of the international organizations. here i confirm that we would never behave in such a manner. and that we are going to fully respect all international laws. and implement our commitments. there is a word that israel and the united states are planning to sort of punish the palestinians for a stubbornness and then seeking recognition is palestine ready for the
toughening of the of the financial for example as you know the palestinian economy is a poor economy because it is connected with these really concrete due to the occupation and therefore we cannot on the year any economic and financial blockade has all the however here a question may be raised. illinois are the palestinians punished for taking such a suggestion of a shower it always was not an aggressive war criminal step one with the had all he did is that we turned to the international community to claim our legitimate rights and we wanted the united nations to consider our peace which has been suspended for over sixty three years and should to palestinian people be punished because. the united nations to claim it's a legitimate rights within international law called the eto what i think this is unfair and unjust and so those teens should not be punished for such
a step or feel in those countries that might impose sanctions on the palestinian people who would do him justice to the palestinian people and would punish the palestinian citizens for a mistake that they did not commit and therefore we do hope that the states threatening to impose sanctions on the palestinians would refrain from such a step and we also hope that the international community would not allow israel to use economic sanctions against the palestinians for taking such a step with a shot for this thing here excellently thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that i guess that michele was fired was stopped on the palestinian ambassador to russia and that's it for now from all of us here if you are in fact your sales spotlight you can always. spotlight will be back with more firsthand comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our take and take.